Becoming the Witch King. The Tragedy of a Man Who Lost His Soul to Sauron.

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  • Опубліковано 5 бер 2024
  • This story unfolds in the early years of the man fated to become the Witch King. His life takes a pivotal turn upon receiving one of the great rings of power, forever altering his destiny. Yet, before this transformative moment, much of his past remains veiled in obscurity. In this rendition, we have expanded upon his story, weaving a speculative and grim prologue to his enigmatic existence. Witness the gradual metamorphoses he undergoes, from just a mortal man to the chilling Ringwraith, he will eventually become.

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  • @TheForcesWrath
    @TheForcesWrath 3 місяці тому +99

    Amazon failed us hard they could have done something like this

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +11

      I am happy you believe that. It would have interesting...

    • @TELJAN
      @TELJAN 20 днів тому +10

      Nope. They would cast Zendaya, to play him.

    • @merlinthemagicdog1899
      @merlinthemagicdog1899 14 днів тому +3

      And the other half of people would then bitch about them doing that.
      Takes some brass gonads to even bother trying to put popular fantasy on any screen. Half the fans will always find fault. 😂

    • @bluestrife28
      @bluestrife28 13 днів тому +1

      Totally. I mean yeah Eragon the movie was very different from the book but it was a fricken good movie; the whining fans killed it: “No, Arya wasn’t a redhead she had dark hair wah wah I need a baba!!!!” etc . I wanted so bad to see how they did Shruikan. 😭

    • @DblTap317
      @DblTap317 12 днів тому

      ​@@TELJAN Thats a girl

  • @NickSibz
    @NickSibz 26 днів тому +79

    Gotta be one of the coolest lore videos Ive ever watched. The Witch King’s identity has always been so interesting. I’ve always viewed WK as LOTR’s not fleshed out Anakin Skywalker. This gave me that vibe and was great.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  25 днів тому +4

      Thanks man! I am humbled by your comment

    • @NickSibz
      @NickSibz 25 днів тому +3

      @@numenorean81 Subscribed, great content.

    • @richardjamesIII
      @richardjamesIII 24 дні тому +4

      Damn, that's a great analogy

    • @ricgillingham8056
      @ricgillingham8056 17 днів тому +3

      The witch King was researching Slidding through alternative universes lol this guy was way ahead of his time lol shame as he started as a good man .

    • @yurikendal4868
      @yurikendal4868 14 днів тому

      Thats tolkeins storytelling. Falls from grace​@@ricgillingham8056

  • @bluestrife28
    @bluestrife28 13 днів тому +23

    It’s the greatest success of world-building that people can still wonder and expound on the mysteries of your creations so many years later. As someone who always wanted to be a writer, I imagine the knowledge of that would make Tolkien very happy. Thanks for this, I always wanted more of him than just a few lines of dialogue in the movie.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  12 днів тому +4

      Thanks mate! Tolkien's world can be explored for a thousand years it seems like, that is just amazing

  • @tonymickens8803
    @tonymickens8803 3 місяці тому +71

    Tolken Reader since 1969, THIS IS GREAT!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +7

      Thank you Tony!

    • @joshuaagron9693
      @joshuaagron9693 3 місяці тому +2

      Is the narrator reading straight from the book? Bc this is awesome

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +3

      There is no book for this I am afraid :) I Have made up this speculative story. Very little information is available about his life prior to becoming a Ringwraith. @@joshuaagron9693

    • @BixRibene
      @BixRibene 3 місяці тому

      Loving that AI Overlord!

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 2 місяці тому

      wow,

  • @robnorris8053
    @robnorris8053 Місяць тому +23

    Even with said 'speculation', a tremendous amount of artistry and creativity went into creating this video.. and i enjoyed it tremendously.. Thank you for such a wonderful adaptation.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  Місяць тому +4

      I Thank you for your kind words! it thaws a cold Numenorean heart

  • @B-Hardink
    @B-Hardink 17 днів тому +12

    This video is wonderful. The narration, the tempo, the sequences, and the images are absolutely stunning.

  • @lfyoung
    @lfyoung 26 днів тому +38

    This is awesome. I love it when someone takes a general idea or a character in the story and then expand it, but tries their best to stay in line with the overall idea of the authors original concept. This is a great ad and would make a great miniseries to an already great set of movies.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  25 днів тому +3

      Thank you my man! A miniseries you say... we will see :)

    • @paulsarnik8506
      @paulsarnik8506 23 дні тому

      Yep, Fan Fic. at it's finest! 🤓😎✌🏼

  • @jansandman6983
    @jansandman6983 2 місяці тому +28

    Okay this is the best in-depth lore of the witch king so far found in youtube. I love it.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +3

      I really appreciate the sentiment, Thanks Jan!

    • @nadeeshadissanayaka2015
      @nadeeshadissanayaka2015 3 дні тому

      @@numenorean81 Hey what is the AI that you used to make the video?

  • @fowfow8471
    @fowfow8471 24 дні тому +14

    Nice video, there's a lot of speculation around the Witch King, but I agree with others, you've taken some of the mythology and tried to create a narrative within that, good job, as a Tolkien fan all my life being able to get lost in well structured and laid out narrative videos whether creative liberties were taken or not, is brilliant & you put effort into your narration/visuals, nevermind the negative vibes from people who can't suspend their disbelief for a second to allow themselves to get lost in a narrative 👍

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  24 дні тому +2

      Thank you man! I hope you are able to enjoy the one about Khamul as well :)

  • @1101millie97
    @1101millie97 2 місяці тому +27

    An interesting take. Since we know so little about the Witch King (except he was of Numenorean ancestry), there is room for imagination. Here's how I would go about it:
    Shortly after the rout and annihilation of Sauron's forces by Numenoreans under the command of their Admiral Ciryatan and his father King Tar-Minastir, a Numenorean nobleman by the name of Angmar with genetic ties to the royal family (and therefore the bloodline stretching all the way to Luthien and Melian) who had fought alongside his friend and future King, settled to the north of Eriador with his family. He had a normal childhood, with a loving family of his own, and with his followers he built up his realm. As his children grew up and had children of their own (and those children had their own children, etc.), he yearned to continue to live a life so charmed with the love and life and vitality of his family and their descendants all around him. Into this mix stepped a figure of great power, yet appeared like a Numenorean so handsome and persuasive he charmed all those around him. First he convinced Angmar's wife of the righteousness of his intentions, knowing she would be the one person Angmar loved, cherished, and trusted the most. Then with her by his side, they convinced Angmar to take up the Ring of Power that would enable him to continue to live this charmed life, convinced by him and her that not only would he benefit from this Ring of Power, but everyone around him, and would live life eternal. It was not just eternal life that beckoned him, but also that Numenor itself could benefit by growing ever more powerful if he would take up his best friend's offer, and come back home to Numenor (Tar-Ciryatan having since succeeded to the throne) to be by his side, advising him and helping him govern this growing empire. He grew close to Tar Ciryatan's son who would become Tar-Atanamir, and among others, it was he who debated the Eldar who came to visit Numenor (on behalf of the Valar) when they became concerned over Numenor's growing discontent over the Ban and the Gift (of death). Partly thanks to the man who would become the Witch King, the Numenoreans were left unconvinced by elven arguments, and so continued their spiritual descent even as they became ever more powerful and numerous, dominating Middle Earth.
    He eventually returned home to Angmar when he began to realize he had been lied to when his wife died, as did his older children of an old scourge -old age. But the Ring of Power that had been given to him had now such a hold over his mind he could not now set it aside, and he began to fade from the visible world. Just as he was physically weakening and visibly fading, that same mysterious figure who first offered and convinced him to take up that Ring of Power returned to Angmar now that he was no longer able to resist him, and weaved spells of magic binding Angmar's soul to his will, and took his Ring. From then on, he became a Nazgul, but given his bloodline from the Line of Elros, he was inherently and exceptionally powerful, more so than any of the other Nazgul, and to him Sauron taught him nearly everything he knew. Eventually due to plague, Angmar's entire remaining family was wiped out, as with most of their followers who settled with them. After the War of the Last Alliance had nearly destroyed Sauron's power (except for his One Ring), he was sent on his Master's behalf back his old home, and as the Witch King he conjured up the souls of all who had died, and bound them to his will as Sauron had done to him, and with the wild men and orcs he built up the evil realm of Angmar (his old name) to ultimately destroy Arnor and its remnant kingdoms of Rhudaur, Cardolan, and Arthedain, and wipe out Elendil's royal bloodline in the north. He nearly succeeded.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +8

      Wow. That is a great story! Much more subtle in many ways than my take. Impressive

    • @1101millie97
      @1101millie97 2 місяці тому +6

      @@numenorean81 Honestly I hope the Rings of Power producers (assuming that show isn't entirely a lost cause) would take up either your or my interpretations on what turned a living, breathing man into an evil Nazgul and the Witch King.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +4

      @@1101millie97 Don't hold your breath. 😏

    • @frederiquelorimier8286
      @frederiquelorimier8286 16 днів тому +1

      @@1101millie97 They can't do it, because they absolutely want a show based on Guy-Ladriel and on a diverse casting.

    • @1101millie97
      @1101millie97 16 днів тому +2

      @@frederiquelorimier8286 What does any of that have to do with what we are talking about?

  • @albertlamar5938
    @albertlamar5938 2 місяці тому +9

    This was outstanding! It could well be filled out into a full length book.
    It reminds me of the passages from Tolkein in which many Numenoreans envied the Elven immortality, and feared the unknown of death.
    In the Appendix completion of Aragorn and Arwen's story, she admitted that she once dismissed them as fools, but now that she faced losing Aragorn to death, and knowing that it was her fate as well, she understood.
    This does not excuse the Witch King, but in a world in which immortality existed for some, but not others, the rage and insanity becomes more comprehensible.
    Many thanks.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +2

      Many thanks! You bring up really good points.
      I wanted to convey this mad search for Immortally, and it becomes so twisted in the end. What does he have to live for in those last decades leading up to him meeting Sauron..., I don't think he even knows the answer to that. It just becomes this thing where his ego completely runs amok, and it refuses to let go of the bodily form. Although he is absolutely terrified what the after life might hold for him, that is for sure.
      Thanks again for watching

  • @garymason-cf1sq
    @garymason-cf1sq 19 днів тому +14

    Everybody gotta take a breath. Most of you take this to seriously. Tolken was a great writer and i have read the books since i was a child many years before t.v and internet took over. You all should be proud to have this we have today. When i was a kid all there was, was Rankin-Bass. I still love that animation.

  • @aidkik580
    @aidkik580 24 дні тому +14

    I love the animations that accompany this narrative, it brings the story to life and adds so much that you dont get with 99% of ....for lack of a better word..."e-reader" stories

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  24 дні тому +2

      Thank you! Indeed, getting the imagery just right is a big part of the story and work.

  • @joshualittle877
    @joshualittle877 2 місяці тому +32

    Pharazon was the leader of a group that became known as the Black Numenoreans who went to Middle Earth and put the lesser men under tribute and servitude and opposed the Elves and Valar. The Witch King was likely one of Pharazons Generals or field commanders.

    • @natedorney7032
      @natedorney7032 23 дні тому +7

      The black numenoreans were the descendants of the faction known as the king's men. The king's men were those of the numenorean people and nobility who questioned the ban of the valar and hated the elves as spies of the valar. The black numenoreans set up petty realms on the shores of middle earth where they ruled as conquerors and as harsh masters where once the men of westernesse were seen as teachers, as good and great people worthy of renown.

    • @mvader7188
      @mvader7188 4 дні тому

      I always thought of him as a Numenorean.

    • @katherinehutton9870
      @katherinehutton9870 2 дні тому

      I think you can only take daddy issues so far. This dude went all the way .

  • @Lotusisrael
    @Lotusisrael 3 місяці тому +29

    A true delight. Usually, I am not into fan fiction, but this one I truly enjoyed. And I do not mean the voice or the visuals, but the story itself. The voice and the video are really good, do not get me wrong but, without the story, they would be empty shells at best. The Professor himself said that, after he will be gone from this world, that he would like other minds to contribute and build upon the foundation he made, and works like this fit precisely in his vision. I hope that, after his works enter public domain (The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings shall be public domain in many countries in about ten years.), more like this is will be created, published and appreciated.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +5

      Thanks Lotus! What a comment, this made my day.
      I did put a lot of effort into the story, and it really grew as the work progressed. Every sentence of the script is finely tuned.
      I hope they story fits into the universe of Tolkien, first I was a bit doubtful, mostly because of the blood and gore I wanted to display. In the end I toned it down a bit, to keep it more family friendly 🙂

    • @john-er6or
      @john-er6or 2 місяці тому +2

      I’ve never heard anything of the sort that “Tolkien expected other minds to expand upon his story.” Sounds like something that Amazon would say in defense of their atrocity “Rings of Power.” I looked it up, and all I could find was someone on Reddit saying the exact same thing, with no actual quote from Tolkien expressing that sentiment.

  • @buddhahoodlum1
    @buddhahoodlum1 2 місяці тому +27

    Excellent video. You told the Witch King's story very poetically and the visuals were a sight to behold.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +3

      Thanks a lot mate, your comment motivate me to improve upon the next video.

  • @shanti8554
    @shanti8554 3 місяці тому +20

    The narration, visuals & music are markable

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the compliment, really appreciate it!

  • @samlivingston4130
    @samlivingston4130 Місяць тому +11

    Alright. Here's what I'm thinking, my "head canon." The man who becomes the Witch King was the son of the Numenorean Admiral Ciryatur. Ciryatur remained in Eriador after the War of the Elves and Sauron and eventually established a stronghold outside of what became Angmar to guard Eriador against the Orcs and evil men that fled north. His mother was also a Numenorean. I don't want the Witch King, or any of the Nazgul, to be of the line of Elros. Or to have ever set foot in Numenor. The name for this character, I came up with the name "Enmar." This character was born after the War of the Elves and Sauron, so say 1800 of the Second Age.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  Місяць тому +6

      I like the theory! It certainly lends plausibility, given Admiral Ciryatur unknown whereabouts after he helped defeat Sauron. The timeline would fit

  • @john-er6or
    @john-er6or 3 місяці тому +117

    I have to say that although interesting, this is pure speculation, as we know next to nothing about the witch king’s history. He may have been Numenorean, but Tolkien actually never wrote anything concrete concerning the witch king’s origins. Cool video, though.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +34

      You are absolutely right. Huge creative liberties was taken when creating this

    • @458joey
      @458joey 3 місяці тому +23

      It's still a great story, though. And since we don't have anything on the witch king, I will take this as rhe best answer. It's perfect in my eyes.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +12

      I am very happy to hear that. Thank you!@@458joey

    • @john-er6or
      @john-er6or 2 місяці тому +1

      @@458joey Well, then let’s just rewrite the whole story, then. I guess you’ll be happy that in the new version, Sauron is our hero and the story is written from his perspective, lol. And the story ends with Sauron getting his One Ring back from Frodo (who he decides to punish slowly with torture) and the ultimate victory over Aragorn and all others who oppose Sauron by making them slaves. You should be fine with that, since you’re willing to accept whatever theory someone besides the original author puts forward.

    • @krob5375
      @krob5375 2 місяці тому +12

      We know that 3 wraiths were numenorean lords, so it's probably a safe bet that the witch king was one of them.

  • @theandroidchronicles
    @theandroidchronicles 2 дні тому +1

    I really like this! Very well done. The ring was basically a deal with the devil. He signed his soul away to Sauron.

  • @spencematthews3159
    @spencematthews3159 5 днів тому +4

    Now this would be worth a movie .

  • @caseymoss7633
    @caseymoss7633 4 дні тому +3

    Richard Harris did a great job narrating

  • @gayprepperz6862
    @gayprepperz6862 3 місяці тому +17

    Great presentation! I look forward to seeing more of your work.

  • @jeffco5237
    @jeffco5237 3 місяці тому +16

    Well done, I always liked the Witch King from Lord of the Rings

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Jeff! The Witch King is a fascinating subject indeed

    • @OfOld
      @OfOld 24 дні тому

      His feats were incredible...the downfall of Arnor, killing the last king of Gondor,

  • @mo-rie
    @mo-rie 6 днів тому +2

    Absolutely gorgeous images. ❤ the images "coming out" of the book pages & the landscapes. And the images of the young man/king were sigh worthy. Mainly a great story and perfect narrator.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  6 днів тому

      Thank you, appreciate your kind words!

  • @trishcouncell2342
    @trishcouncell2342 15 днів тому +8

    Great imagination, great narration and background music. Most of all those graphics were incomparable. Done by man or AI, WOW!

  • @CagedSUPERMAN
    @CagedSUPERMAN 16 днів тому +4

    All he needed was a hug

  • @snarly7346
    @snarly7346 2 дні тому +1

    Wonderful work! You should really consider making ambient music videos. Absolutely love the musical compositions throughout it. It's rare for fan produced material to be that emotionally evocative for me, but this really tugged the heartstrings. Great Job!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  День тому

      Thank you, I really tried my hardest to get the emotions flowing, the music is the greatest aid in that for sure 🙂

  • @TheStrudelJonny
    @TheStrudelJonny 3 місяці тому +22

    this channel deserves more subs

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +3

      Thank you Jonny! Some day perhaps 😀

  • @annabjorkenvall7183
    @annabjorkenvall7183 3 місяці тому +5

    Absolutely amazing, thank you!!!!

  • @anadmirer8789
    @anadmirer8789 2 місяці тому +5

    This would make an incredible movie. 😀

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +3

      Thanks Yeah! In fact, Amazon just bought the rights for 250 pesos. they promised to deliver a inclusive family drama. Can't wait! 😄

  • @norukiller3263
    @norukiller3263 2 місяці тому +8

    Holy crap how many hours did it take you to make this video? It looks amazing!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +4

      Thanks man! About 100 hours give or take.

  • @alantroup1469
    @alantroup1469 12 днів тому +2

    Yes, this is awesome!!!

  • @IGathron
    @IGathron 3 місяці тому +7

    Very well done I'm liking your take on the Witch King.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      I am happy you enjoyed it, Gathron!

  • @guy2342
    @guy2342 23 дні тому +1

    Dude I’m only 6 minutes in and I am enthralled. Great job.

  • @dannymccabe9868
    @dannymccabe9868 21 день тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic representation. As someone below observed, this is the finest work I’ve seen regarding the Witch King. It simply brought the character to life. Taking into account that Tolkien didn’t explain his origins, I like to think that this would have been close to the mark, and in keeping with his storytelling style.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  21 день тому

      Thank you so much for that! I have to say the reception has been varied, but mostly positive.

  • @christiankearns9747
    @christiankearns9747 3 дні тому

    Absolutely sensational, really enjoy what you have produced. The Witch King has always been a source of mystery, love this unique presentation and its the type of content I didn't know I needed but very happy to have stumbled upon. Bravo

  • @Raelven
    @Raelven 22 дні тому +1

    Beautifully written story, and the visuals are stunning!
    Thank you for sharing this creation with us!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  22 дні тому

      Thank you so much! it is totally my pleasure

  • @Zindolin
    @Zindolin 3 дні тому

    That was a pretty amazing rendition of your view. Well done. Instant fan. The obscurity of the dark forces history not really being talked about. Looking forward to more videos. :)

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 дні тому +1

      Happy to have you here! hopefully you will enjoy some of my other videos as well.

    • @Zindolin
      @Zindolin 2 дні тому

      I look forward to seeing them.

  • @benedictwallis5820
    @benedictwallis5820 2 місяці тому +1

    Love this channel! Adds so much grit and character to some of the lesser know characters and stories in middle earth. Deserve way more subscribers 👍

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому

      Thank you! Next video should bring more goodies 😏

  • @Silversmith70
    @Silversmith70 15 днів тому +2

    Killer art, its beautiful!

  • @Zakalwe76
    @Zakalwe76 3 місяці тому +11

    Great job. I'm sure the channel grow quickly.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +4

      Thank you! If I continue to post videos people enjoy then hopefully

  • @JohnvanGeenen
    @JohnvanGeenen 3 місяці тому +9

    Just marvelous. Love it.

  • @goodnamesareallgone1
    @goodnamesareallgone1 4 дні тому +1

    Speculation sure, but seems reasonable: immortality is a seductive lure -- very well done.

  • @ethanrom22
    @ethanrom22 22 дні тому +2

    This is just unbelievable! This really should be made into a film either by amazon or new line cinemas

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  22 дні тому +2

      Thank you! Maybe we should focus our attention on New Line Cinema then ;)

  • @urlord24
    @urlord24 24 дні тому +1

    Great video. The artwork was very impressive as was the “fillers” of the Witch Kings origins. Very detailed and it “made sense”. It progressed to a logical conclusion of the ability of Sauron to “corrupt the hearts of Men”.

  • @bmxben187
    @bmxben187 20 днів тому +1

    That was phenomenal! Well done.

  • @pablito4762
    @pablito4762 15 днів тому +1

    I like what they did with Talion in "Shadow of Mordor" and "Shadow of War". And i like this as backstory for Witchking of Angmar.

  • @TCO06
    @TCO06 3 місяці тому +2

    Pure speculation but at this point I'm starving for more videos with this quality. Well made thanks a lot

  • @16alpha40
    @16alpha40 27 днів тому +2

    Wow. Don't know enough to know how close this is to the written lore, but holy smokes....the visuals !!!!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  26 днів тому +2

      Thank you! Not much is known of the Witch King's past. Other than that he is of Numenorean descent

  • @alexandercarder2281
    @alexandercarder2281 11 днів тому +1

    The Ai produced animation is beautiful I have to say. Especially the mountain scenes with the sunlight passing through gaps in the clouds as they passes across the landscape ❤

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  10 днів тому +1

      Thank you, some sequences are striking indeed!

  • @dfryeguy
    @dfryeguy 17 днів тому +1

    This video is what brought me to your channel, and I am beyond glad that it did! This was a fantastic tale, expertly woven, and crafted with a jeweler's attention to detail! Thank you. Out of curiosity, is there a list of the music you used?

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  16 днів тому

      Thank you!
      Not sure you can find the music on youtube, I use artlist.io and motionarray.com to get the rights to the music.
      Anyway here are some of the music used
      DaniHaDani - Secret No 3
      Ben Winwood - Towards the Light
      Vasil Yatsevich - Pulsar
      WaveArt - You Will See the Light

  • @ufoenigma7858
    @ufoenigma7858 2 місяці тому +3

    Imagine when this will be animated !! Give it a few more years with Ai of course and we will see some amazing games out there..

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +2

      That will be mind blowing 🙂

  • @user-fj8qq6bl5q
    @user-fj8qq6bl5q 3 місяці тому +9

    Nicely done dude, strange though saying he was a descendant of numennor as it’s known that three of the nine were high lords of numennor.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you!
      You could see it as a bit of creative liberty that I took.
      I tried to convey that he was part of a strong Numenorean lineage.
      This might not be to everyone's liking

    • @Morzok
      @Morzok 3 місяці тому +2

      there were even rumours that the witch king was a distant cousin of the main line of kinship of numenor

    • @MichaelMedici61W2
      @MichaelMedici61W2 2 місяці тому

      @@numenorean81great video looking forward to seeing the rest of your content and future videos. Where are these clips that you used from? They’re really good.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому

      @@MichaelMedici61W2 Thank you. I create the clips using a few different programs. midjourney and runwayml.

  • @Rick_King
    @Rick_King 6 днів тому +2

    This was extremely well done. Well written, with awesome graphics, and an excellent voice over.
    But one thing confuses me. In the first film, it was said that the Nazgul were once great kings of men. He doesn't sound like a great king of men.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  5 днів тому +1

      Thank you!
      Yes, indeed, I took some liberties here. He was not a great king, he was a lord, more like a duke than a king, but his real strength lay in magical arts, he was a great sorcerer.

  • @amyriberdy
    @amyriberdy 14 днів тому

    You know, I read my first LOTR book in 1969, so you know I am a true fan. I love new ideas & this was awesome. Thank you

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  13 днів тому

      It is great to hear from someone, who has cherished LOTR for so long.
      Thank you for watching and I hope you stay :)

  • @watiwo
    @watiwo 15 днів тому +1

    I fell asleep like this was a National Geographic show 😂, great video

  • @MichaelR-kl6hk
    @MichaelR-kl6hk 13 днів тому +2

    Excellent

  • @markmicco1005
    @markmicco1005 16 днів тому +2

    This was more game of thrones than something Tolkien would have written

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  16 днів тому

      Thanks, I will take that 😄

    • @markmicco1005
      @markmicco1005 16 днів тому +2

      @@numenorean81 and I thank you for not being a jerk about the criticism.., you got class...

  • @raymcgeough6572
    @raymcgeough6572 3 місяці тому +6

    Love this and hope to see more of these! Just one critique if you don’t mind? The Dark Lords name is pronounced more Sour-on instead of Sore-on.
    I’d loveeee to see one of these videos for each of The Nine!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +5

      Thanks you, I am more than delighted!
      And you are totally correct, for the next section the pronunciation should be on point
      One video for each Ringwraith is a neat idea, it is going into the todo list :)

    • @raymcgeough6572
      @raymcgeough6572 3 місяці тому +1

      @@numenorean81 subscribing to your channel, man. Great stuff here!

    • @yomama211
      @yomama211 3 місяці тому +5

      Ai cant pronounce Sauron

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      There you are correct. If I narrated though, it would be a catastrophy :)@@yomama211

  • @williambrown2763
    @williambrown2763 3 місяці тому +6

    Awesome, this would have fit right in to something like the Book of Lost Tales seamlessly as if it was written by Tolkien himself! Amazing!
    Definitely got a new sub here.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! such a heart warming comment

  • @franciswalsh8416
    @franciswalsh8416 2 місяці тому +3

    Very good! He fell as the Black Numenorians fell. and that works perfectly because that is who he was.

  • @naseemrehman7000
    @naseemrehman7000 5 днів тому +1

    Honestly thank you for your time in this fictional branch off. I’ve ALWAYS been obsessed with the 9. I always wanted to know their names. Kingdoms. Were they wraiths in once or slowly he built them to 9? Why the witch king over others etc? I do love the Charlie Vickers scene in Rings where he is first entering Mordor as Sauron. Even though I know his body was destroyed in Numenor. And emerged as a spirit. But that dark Vickers red EYE look is sick I plug it into my PJ tales.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  4 дні тому

      Thank you, hopefully we can explore more of the Ringwraiths on this channel. Get to know then on a personal level a bit more!

  • @AerialEmber
    @AerialEmber 2 місяці тому +3

    1:34 ah, those electric lamps in the third age were the best 🤣

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed, he just found it at the local market 😆

    • @dougsanderson5265
      @dougsanderson5265 23 дні тому

      Not to mention the 6 fingers @10:27

  • @RFCEB99
    @RFCEB99 3 місяці тому +4

    Love this channel

  • @agentsmith2378
    @agentsmith2378 3 місяці тому +4

    Great vid bro.

  • @Volfan1065
    @Volfan1065 2 дні тому +1

    Wow. So Amazon is one of the richest companies on the planet and throws a billion dollars at a project which no one likes. Then someone puts a free video on UA-cam that is what we actually wanted to see about the second age and the allure of the rings. Amazon, hire people like this! Imagine this concept with the backing of a full studio!

  • @kenna8136
    @kenna8136 5 днів тому +1

    Love the Ai artwork and the lore.

  • @russellmessenbird6859
    @russellmessenbird6859 23 дні тому +1

    I really like this thanks for making it.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  22 дні тому +1

      Thank you! I really liked making it :)

  • @ciachofil
    @ciachofil 2 місяці тому +2

    In a way though, they were only humans who kind of overcome gift of Iluvatar and became immortal as they were always jealous for. There was a Tuor who was welcomed into Aman and count for Eldar but thats a little different as they haven't ever left middle-earth and they were technically still humans although kept in undead state between life and death, chained to Arda with the power of Ring.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +1

      They jelously for Immortality is probably a common denominator for all of them, so you are definitely right!

  • @lassef3692
    @lassef3692 День тому +1

    You just got a sub. Not so much because of the story but became of the very well made video

  • @aaronmurry6014
    @aaronmurry6014 24 дні тому +2

    Interesting but doesn't fit the once we're great kings of men or the great fall from grace. This is wonderful and imaginative. I would've gone the other way. After losing his parents he realized how precious life and connections were he dedicated his life to improving his subjects stations even studying under the elven masters. As the elves received there rings he was bestowed one of his own. Slowly his soul twisted becoming calous, envious even jealous.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  23 дні тому +1

      I would have liked to see your version come to life, it really does sound intriguing.
      In my version, he certainly had noble intentions when he was young, unfortunately destiny had other plans for him.

  • @torreeric499
    @torreeric499 3 дні тому +1

    Not sure if this backstory of the witch king is true but if it were, then I think I found someone I may relate to. Mostly introvert, hungry for knowledge, always curious,bit of a power hungry ( I myself as well desire power but for a good reason) and finds comfort in solitude. All these are the similarities I have with the witch king and it stops there. The only difference is I am not fond of cruelty although given the right circumstances especially if needed be I could be, and I set limits whenever I gain power like if its enough then its enough. Do not wish immortality and stuff as I have some sort of ethics that I follow...😊

  • @jasonleveck8546
    @jasonleveck8546 3 місяці тому +7

    This is a wonderful presentation. Really helps the viewer get invested. Great job my friend!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +3

      Thank you Jason, much appreciated!

  • @ironwolvesproductions6283
    @ironwolvesproductions6283 3 місяці тому +3

    I always felt that Tal-Elmar is the origin story for the Witch King.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      That would be appropriate as well.

  • @pedrovargas2181
    @pedrovargas2181 3 місяці тому +3

    Waaait, "Angmar" was founded when the Black Captain was a Wraith a few thousand years old.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      You are correct, I should have mentioned that...
      Thanks for your input!

  • @JoeBLOWFHB
    @JoeBLOWFHB 20 днів тому +1

    "Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it?!?!"

  • @junon
    @junon 21 день тому +1

    Fantastic job. I was hooked.

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody 22 дні тому +1

    Rings of power are objects normally made for elves. They are a tool to prevent them from fading. Since the relationship between the elf and human souls (fëar) with Arda, and therefore with their bodies (hröar) built from its material, is opposite, the rings of power, as a factor that prevented the elves from fading, caused humans to fade (transforming from the incarnate form of existence into the wraith form). I theorize that this may be the metaphysical nature of this transformation. The motivation of the Witch-king is shaped around power and immortality, as in the other Nazgûl. Various stories can be constructed by other hands and minds for character development woven within this infrastructure. This video is an example of this.

  • @pbj1984
    @pbj1984 17 днів тому +1

    Great lore-fiction, accompanied by gorgeous graphics, beautiful and disturbing, super job!!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  16 днів тому

      A little bit of both worlds! Thanks for watching mate.

  • @LV-ei1ce
    @LV-ei1ce 3 місяці тому +4

    Wow amazing ! Just subbed

  • @ImJustSaijan
    @ImJustSaijan 15 днів тому +1

    So i know this isn't necessarily cannon, but hey, at least we got a great story about a mysterious character that, well, in my opinion, we all love and wonder about in our own way.
    And considering and the fails weve gotten over the recent years , thank you forbthe awesome video! My kids were even into lol

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  14 днів тому

      I'm very happy to hear your kids were into it too :) *
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for the kind words.

  • @theguitarzone767
    @theguitarzone767 18 днів тому +1

    Absolutely outstanding video! Love the narrator's voice as well. When you do the video on the Downfall of Numenor could you use this guy's voice? Btw this is the best video I've yet seen on any Tolkien lore, I'm sharing this to all my friends and family. Much appreciated and subscribed!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  18 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much my man!
      Regarding Numenor and the narration I am afraid I can't make any promises 🙂
      I really appreciate your support

    • @theguitarzone767
      @theguitarzone767 18 днів тому

      @@numenorean81 No worries! Thanks for the awesome videos!

    • @theguitarzone767
      @theguitarzone767 13 днів тому

      @@numenorean81 Also the music here is absolutely amazing, especially towards the end of the video when Sauron arrives. Did you compose it yourself?

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  13 днів тому

      ​@@theguitarzone767 I also believe the music fits the narrative pretty nicely! But I didn't compose it, That would have been too much to handle :)
      But the music was carefully chosen and edited to fit like it does.
      Thanks for noticing!

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  13 днів тому

      Also, I have started creating the Numenor series. Maybe you saw that in the community tab?

  • @Marazrael
    @Marazrael 7 днів тому +1

    Some have taken to judge this work too harshly. It’s a fanfic, people, he never claimed this story was cannon. He clearly said he had “built upon” the scant data. I think it’s a nice fan fiction. Just as a constructive criticism, you are overusing the word “childlike”, especially in regards to the king’s childhood. Other thing, give him subjects, even if they are few and dwindling in number. A king cannot be called a king if there is no one to record anything about him.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  7 днів тому +1

      Thank you, and you are right, things are taken too bloody serious sometimes :)
      Just a note regarding what you pointed out; it is never mentioned that he is a king, a lord yes, but if he is a king or not is left unsaid, that could be up to the viewer to make up her mind about as she wishes. Nevertheless, a few subjects, besides the few guards that are shown, would have been very appropriate, so a fair point indeed.

  • @sa25-svredemption98
    @sa25-svredemption98 22 дні тому +2

    This is a really great tale, but I doubt it's ability to fall within the reality (so far as there is such a thing in the legendarium) of Middle Earth. The Rings were given to people already of proven power and might - and this can be seen in both who the rings were given to elsewhere, but also how Sauron worked on people, and which people he worked on, throughout his life. Skill in and of itself was not desired by Sauron, even skill in the dark arts. It was the ability to command, the ability to make grand strategies, a desire that allowed dark manipulation, those were the traits he focused on in the canon lore, and the Witch King would be, in my mind, the one who in life was greatest of these. An emperor of vast proportions and a dark terror in and of himself even before being given one of the Nine Rings. Anything less I cannot see Sauron making the leader of his armies.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  22 дні тому

      You bring up really valid points here, and I don't have any defense other than that I took some liberties. I will learn and improve for the next speculative instalment 🙂

  • @aivideoyoutube
    @aivideoyoutube 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video Beautiful images

  • @merlinthemagicdog1899
    @merlinthemagicdog1899 14 днів тому +1

    I've always been partial to the Witch King...

  • @niklasmoquist6116
    @niklasmoquist6116 4 дні тому +1

    The voice sounds like a mixture of Richard Harris and his son, Jared.

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 3 місяці тому +2

    We know almost nothing about the Nazguls' identities. This is remarkable considering what they became. This was certainly deliberate on Tolkien's part. The less we know, the more fearsome they are. Tolkien's basically saying, "Use your imagination."
    Which you did! Well done.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! Yeah, that is the fear of trying to write such a story, it can easily fall flat if it makes the protagonist less fearsome.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 2 місяці тому

      @@numenorean81 What program is this?

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +2

      @@squamish4244 if you mean what I use to create the imagery, it's called midjourney.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 2 місяці тому

      @@numenorean81 Yes. Thanks.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 Місяць тому +1

      @@numenorean81 So far with your videos about him you've done a great job.
      Will you do a video describing the Witch-King's human years after he received the Ring? His youth and vigour returned, and he became one of the Nine who were "mighty in their day, kings, sorcerers, and warriors of old". Then the wreathing process that slowly turned him into a slave. That would be very cool.

  • @byronparrish4345
    @byronparrish4345 5 днів тому +1

    Very well done, truly nice work, and definitely creative. I would say though, in my opinion, that the subject was too corrupted prior to receiving the ring. As the story played out, he was damned well before meeting Sauron. If I was the one doing it, Sauron would have had a much more direct role in actually crushing a relatively decent man. That's just me, though.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  5 днів тому

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it for what it is!
      You make a good point about the possibility of the protagonist being "too corrupted" prior to receiving the ring, and that it could seem far fetched that Sauron would even consider giving him the ring in that state. To his defense, he was a great sorcerer and strong in necomancy, which is a rare talent to have, one that Sauron is particularly fond of.

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect 2 місяці тому +3

    It would have taken several human lifetimes to complete the transformation from human to Witch King.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +3

      I agree. If we continue this storyline, the ring would initially have healed up his body, infused it with youth and vitality. Bringing him back into a well looking middle aged lord. From there the process is slow, several centuries, perhaps even longer, for him to transform.

  • @bendavisson7819
    @bendavisson7819 16 днів тому +1

    literally so good

  • @jhwheuer
    @jhwheuer 3 місяці тому +1

    Which LLM are you using for the visuals?

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  3 місяці тому +1

      I am using Leonardo for the image creation and runwayml for animating.
      Thank you for watching!

  • @bowieupland6112
    @bowieupland6112 22 дні тому +1

    Excellent.

  • @MCFCTheMadHatter
    @MCFCTheMadHatter 23 дні тому +1

    The production quality and cinematography from AI use is outstanding. Of course, without your inputs of creativity, it would be nothing. Well done!

  • @makeupboss3568
    @makeupboss3568 18 днів тому +1

    Quite an interesting story. Thank you !

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect 2 місяці тому +2

    He was likely a one of the most powerful human sorcerers that ever lived before his transformation into the WK.

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +1

      I agree again. Could have emphasized that a little stronger perhaps

    • @Mentallect
      @Mentallect 2 місяці тому +2

      @@numenorean81 He was definitely a flawed sociopath that grew ever more cynical, jaded, and made worse due to his necromancy obsession and his power as a King which provided resources to feed his ideological flaws. I enjoyed the videos detailed transitional explanation of the WK's supervillain arc.

  • @leightonolsson4846
    @leightonolsson4846 2 місяці тому +2

    He had great hair, I think we can all agree on that

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  2 місяці тому +1

      You make a very good point! A topic worthy of its own separate film 😀

  • @Spartan-Of-Truth
    @Spartan-Of-Truth 25 днів тому

    Holy sh-, the art in this is freaking sweet.
    Also, everything about Sauron’s drip and self is badass… all but his behavior. Ol’ punk. Cool punk..

    • @numenorean81
      @numenorean81  24 дні тому

      Hey there, thanks for the compliment 🙂 however, I am not sure I follow your comment about Sauron completely, did you mean you did not find his behavior fitting?

  • @davechristoffersen6633
    @davechristoffersen6633 3 місяці тому +2

    Simply amazing well done +1 sub