HIGH MILEAGE HOT HATCH HERO, WOULD YOU BUY ONE? - Modified 2007 Honda Civic Type R FN2 Review
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Had mine since 2010, meant to be a bit of fun for a year or so. I kid you not, maintenance has been a dream, every car I owned before was cheaper to buy, failed every mot. All I've done with this baby is tires, brakes and the battery... it's incredible. I've had it off the road for a year (moved house n covid), took it to the garage expecting the worst... 1 caliper change and the fluids... started up like a dream, cleaned the rust of the brakes and it purrs. It still represents the flagship of the time, no driver assists or auto handbrake etc, but dual climate control, refrigerated glove box, cruise, a nifty screen demist button... oh yeah, and the engine. It's a fairly normal 2 litre until the point that most cars change gears... then it breathes fire and screams until 8000 revs, gear after gear. You, will, smile! Mine cost around 8-9k back then... the missus has a lovely year old golf, 22k.... she constantly tells me she made the wrong choice and wants one. It's just sexy.
Shout out to all FN2 owners like myself fantastic cars
Ugliest car I've ever seen
King riz that's what good about the car world everyone got different opinions pal
@@lewisjamie288 Really? Have you seen the Fiat Multipla? The FN2 is nearly 15 years old and the design still looks fresh, it might not be your cup of tea but it most certainly isn't ugly.
@@Monkiimagic well who is going to go out there way and buy that? for hot hatches this is one of the ugliest there is.
@@lewisjamie288 what car do you drive
"It has an air filter up front" - I fucking hope so.
Mine is in the boot bruh
@@kyle404040 I put mine in the front wheel house
It's great that all these second hand reviews of the FN2 are finally showing what a great car it is. It's also contributing to the prices starting to rise. Get in there, they're end up a classic, Mark my words.
Cant believe i picked up one a few years ago with 60k miles for just 6 grand. The performance and reliability for the money is insane
U forget top gear named this hot hatch of the year in 2007... Its a brilliant under rated car, they are bombproof if looked after and great fun to drive
What if your completely wrong? - Hammond
@@jd3076 which part was wrong james?
Bombproof, apart from the syncro on 3rd gear.
I’ve watched this review 2 weeks after I got an FN2 for my little channel. Been following you for a number of years and don’t know how I missed this one 🤷♂️. Watching it made me realise I did the right thing getting one, thanks Jamie 👍
Thanks for this review I hope people can do more review for the budget buyers. Awesome
Watched this review so many times, was what helped me decide on getting one a few months ago, be great to see another one on the channel but but more mods on it like full exhaust and manifold etc
Thats the seeker spoiler. FN2's a great little car for fun and everyday
Jamie the smile on your face says it all 🤙
I remember seeing one of these in Milano red when they first came out.
It was such a giant leap in car design inside and out everything else on the road looked ancient.
Had a diesel version in cosmic grey remapped I still regret selling it to this day.
Thank you for this video. I have the 2.2 diesel version of this car and have recently been wanting to up grade to a type R but the high mileage and really low price tag always makes me think there has to be something wrong with it, but after this video you have convinced me to not be afraid to pull the trigger if I can find the right one😀
I'm thinking about spending 4-5k on the Type R. I had the standard Civic when they first come out. Paid 12k. Very good cars lots of tech. It's a dive into the unknown with any car. I would think look for one from a dealer and one with lots of History.
I just spent £5900 on an 07 52,000 milea one owner fn2 in black, pretty expensive but that's london prices. Love it fitted a hks rsk and it sounds lovely.
The joy on his face is priceless! 😂😂
Had one 5 yrs ago, sold it with 156k miles. The only issue it ever had was the power steering ecu packed up. I had 3 EP3's before, this was a nicer car but it did feel slower + the EP3 gear box was a masterpiece.
I've had mine for 8 years, not bored yet. It's been running 250bhp for 5 of those years and it's hasn't had a single issue. Really practical too. Great daily driver track ready car. A bit tame in stock form but there are loads of nicely modded ones out there. Best mod is 4-2-1 manifold, really opens up the mid-range up. Speak to TDi North for engine work/tuning and Grinspeed for everything else.
Mileage?
@@jaywu117 88k miles
Sad we never saw these in the states. They're so cool
Sad we dont have the si in europe lol...
Maxspeed would you import it to the states?
@@SyntaxError119 yikes
@@shanga7827 possibly
There are indeed especially deep bronze pearl fn2 paint rarest
Lovely Jubbly, like to see it when they've done the work.
I had the type s and loved that car got c class Mercedes now and now I'm thinking of going back to honda and having a type r
Type s can drive chillin but type r u will have tough experience but fun
Mine 07' has 44k on the clock. Also gps, and Ipod connection. Lovely car.
Had both an ep3 and fn2 both were great cars my ep3 was more raw but if i had to jump back into owning one it would be the fn2 i loved that car I was lucky to have a nearly new fully loaded gt in alabaster silver at the time....it was great it did everything brilliant long motorway miles and cross country sprints it turned heads more than my ep3 and felt a much better put together classier car i miss it very much great motors.
Great review! I'm getting one Sunday!
Nothing wrong with high mileage cars as long as they’ve been looked after. I had a Leon cupra with 175k on it but still pulled and drove very well. Never went wrong.
will be looking at one of these this year, hopefully lower miles ans in red or silver. For the money, a brilliant car
AHHH this sound,I remember when my dad owned one of those. We had the rare sapphire blue color. The memories the sound was very unique imo. He decided to sell it nearly two years ago and switch to the diesel cr-v black edition..... got me a bit sad lol from an FN2 to a god damn Diesel crv lol. At least we getting the new FK8 next year so thats a plus he he nice review.
There is a lad on youtube with one with that exact spec, if I remember it had only one or two owners prior, might very well be your dads car, not many around in that spec.
@@cutdepiefails6596 really?? Can you let me know their channel??
Looks awesome with some tasteful mods like mugen rear splitter . Led front lights . That wing looks ok also .
Love to see a video on the Corolla T-sport with or without compressor! 🤓
Would love to offer mine for a video if you'd be interested Jamie?👍🏻
crap cars, ive had one,
Or a Celica Sports M!!
@@jakfuller5957 would be awesome
That car is very underrated
The FN2 is the only type R i haven't driven yet, i'd live to take one out for a blast.
I really love you smile when you reeves the engine 😂😂😂😂i have one of this and it's still amazing.i can't get bored to driving her
I got a brand new one in 2009, had it 3 years loved it. Been with loads of cars since, and last week sold my m140, just repurchased a 2011 fn2. Really does have a lot of character. Love the fact the 2011 model has the lsd, really helps. Also they have a fridge in the glove box. Awesome 👌
😍
I bought these car in the video 2 weeks ago, the car is is good condition, really fast and fun to drive.
It’s a fabulous car. Very underated. Could have done with another 40/50 hp from stock. But still a good all round car for the cash 👍
Very good review 👍
Great vid bud. 👍
Love these car remember them new thought there better equipped then the ep3 and better looking. If you can drive it like you just did at 150k shows how good they are.
Feeling sick just sold my FN2 for 3500 with 86k on clock ,perfect condition . Really miss it 11yrs old not a single fault . But ride is not missed
Just bought an 09 Champ white with 26k on the clock. Worth it big time
@@EP3mentalist well done sounds great , champ white shows fn2 at its best . I think FN2 will be appreciated in future
I wish I knew of this sale :(
Worth considering one of these as a track car now although my wife is still a bit annoyed that I sold mine a few years back to get the FK2 CTR.... which has now also gone for a comfy commuter car.
Just bought my 2nd fn2 after watching your video. Got a great deal on one with 59k 😍
My 56k 07 black fn2 has plenty of stone chips, the shape and angle of the bonnet and wings you can't avoid them. Just gave it a machine polish and it looks great!
As long as it’s been well looked after with service history sometimes better off getting a more high mileage car. As for the fn2 I’d rather an Ek9 myself but great vid man!
Ek9 in good condition is rare and costs £20k
I think anyone would rather have an EK9 but the FK2 is significantly cheaper in similar conditions
My god that car sounds amazing!
Fair one..as long as the service history is there go on condition not mileage....
I had a red one mapped to 230 bhp was mental ,I loved my fn2 sounded like a super bike
Ecutek?
@@lauraandsam21 mine was a Hondata ECU
Ah mine is ecutek TDI north reckon it gets 240bhp but I heard they run high and probs more like 230/235 in reality.
@@lauraandsam21 tdi are good they worked wonders on my sons ep3, he had the ecutec,mine was quick loved it just upgraded as you do
It's actually bronze but it does look black most of the time. I picked one up recently in the same colour unmodified 96k had a new clutch fitted and serviced by a local honda specialist. Looks and drives amazing all for less than 4 grand.
Been looking at the fn2 an i think its time to try 1 out
I have an EP3 with 271k(168k Miles) KM on it, still pulls great. No real issues with it, no smoke always starts and runs great. These engines can take a lot.
Any updates?
Beast, love em
Rear spoiler is called a Seeker Wing
I had the Accord Type R from 2003-2012. Amazing car. Looking to buy the FN2 as a second car. Thanks for the torsion beam explanation. Top Gear did put me off.
Don't be put off , I've had accord type r and FN2 . FN2 is hard core , don't be fooled by space age looks .
Don't be put off !! If you can get a good one you won't look back . Mine never had a single fault . Can be really fast but safe and predictable. I've also had accord type r and run an Integra dc 5 . All been brilliant .
They did two types of black. The bronze which is the one you have and the nighthawk black which has all blue glitter in the paintwork, which I have. Love my fn2 tbh. But then mine has had a new ECU and remapped to 240bhp at tdi north with the ecutek map. Mines an 09 plate with 60k on the clock picked it up for 7.5k ready done with map, 18" team dynamics f1s, lowered, cat back, tints all round, flat shift in vtec etc etc
A lad at work has a fn2 in bronze. Looks great in the sun.
@@filmboy18 a chap from one of the civic groups has a bronze saw it at a meet at cheddar gorge and yeah it's cool how they look black from one angle and bronze from another
Laura Key: 20% extra power with a remap on a naturally aspirated engine? Are you sure?
@@varmastiko2908 actually it's quite common with a aftermarket ecu and supporting hardware to easily hit 240 tdi norths dyno might be a bit generous though not sure.
@@varmastiko2908 that's what tdi north claimed on their dyno. Have heard they run high tho.
Awesome . . . .I'm looking to buy one now 👌👌👍👊👊👊👊
Just bought one with 88k on it... an astonishing car. Built like a tank.
How much did u get it for if u don't mind me asking?
I just sold my 4th one with 200k on the clock and it was still pulling like a train mileage does not matter on these long has they have plenty of history they go and go brilliant cars and very underrated
Thank you for posting this. I was nervous looking at a 110.000 miles example! I'm somewhat a little more confident now
@@aaa84gt i have one with 270 000km, thats like almost 170k miles. It drives and feels like new one. Just change your oil often and you will have no problems. Oh and adjust valve clearence around 30k km.
I use 10w40 oil, on 5w30 it used around 0.5l every 1000km, but it depends on your driving style ;)
@@clutchfreak13 Thanks for the reply bro, sounds good! ✌️
What about water pumps and all that shit?
Low millage is all ways better thats why its always more expensive
My normal 1.8 civic has done 236,000 miles only the central locking is an issue 2 door actuators need replacing, engine still runs as good as new
Picking my FN2 up in a few days. Couldn't see in the comments, but the spoiler add on, on this FN2 is the "Seeker" spoiler. Deffo picking one up myself as the Mugen one is a bit too shopping trolley for me!
What exhaust does it have you said decat with stock back box. What decat pipe did he use coz the sound is so nice. I have one myself and I must agree with what you said about the difference between the ep3 and the fn2 even though I would add one thing they are both different the ep3 is more fun driving on the limits on B roads but if you have the fn2 with the LSD 🤔 it can give you the same fuzz or even better and i had a ep3 premier edition and I am not a straight line driver like many honda haters.
I don't mind the high mileage. However I would like to see a great service history with it.
I own a 5dr civic ex and love it. Only has 65k on the clock and I paid 2k for it.
Interesting review, used to have an EP3 and FN2 and Clarkson was so wrong, FN2 handled much better, lovely interior. Also just bought my highest mileage car, a 116k C Class and its great (ok.. so today it's in having the parking brake repaired).
Is the class a cd1 220 by any chance and if so how are your running costs?
Been thinking of buying one of these. 2011/12 model. I know its hard to say for sure. But is the body work as good as the engine & does anyone think it would last 5-8 years from now (obviously it needs to have been looked after - which is a gamble with any car)....?
got one on 130k love it more than the mk7 gti minus the turbo
I just bought one with 148k for 2k 🙂 drive's really well engine is quiet goes through the gears with no crunching a lot of stone chips at the front but for 2k I am not worried
I bought my typeR today 74k miles all black, black wheels. Great condition just for £3250. F love it
Plz reply FYD witch was better fn2 or astra j vxr u reviewed sorta wish i ehen honda but love my vxr
Re, the temp button on the passenger door... FN2 has dual zone climate control.
Had my NHB FN2 for 9 months and ,apart from the awful MPG, it's an amazing car. I got mine at 24k miles for £8500
engines are bullet proof, I would be tempted to do a suspension and brake overhaul with that mileage, then many more years of thrashing it round can be enjoyed.
Just got one at 153K. Coilovers and refurbed calipers and new pads and rotors will be top of the list.
Underrated car
That’s a seeker spoiler. And the colour is bronze - not black. Very honest review mate! Great cars for the price tag
99K Miles, slowly creeping up to 100K and only issue was the starter motor which I got fixed under dealer warranty. Had it 3 months now and this is the most fun car I’ve driven in a while, Clarkson’s review of this ruined the car for years.
Just check the service history and make sure the valve clearances have been done, I think I’m going to struggle to kill this one.
tbh id rather buy one thats not had the valves done so its rattling/ticking its tits off lol more room for bargaining and to do a valve job for a novice can be done in an hour.
I absolutely love the Interior in these cars! Just a shame about the bhp
Cant believe how much car prices have raised from back in the late 90's to 2000's! I remember £5000-7000 would get a Sapphire Cosworth, Evo 4 etc.
I had a bronze 2008 ... fun car to own
I had an fn2 but the back axle rotted out of it, I have stored it for over three years because the price of a new back axle was insane, but im now in the process of restoring it, it’s gonna be the lowest mileage fn2 in Northern Ireland (40k).
Is the regular 07 Honda Civic as good at a high mileage?
My is 2007 and has 273+, few tunning stuff inside and i love it
273k miles? 😋
I sold mine a few months ago 125k milano red for 2300 they are dirt cheap now good buy tbf
Good old Japan... U mean Swindon😂 I have one running 230bhp lightened flywheel, stage 4 completion clutch, quaife lsd, carbon synchros, going widebody with wilwood bbk very soon just need to get the bolts to go into the rivnuts haha... The spoiler add on is the seeker spoiler lip
@@ChillinLikeAVillain1210 I'd say Fords are German, it's like saying imagine 2 people had sex, lass is preggers, they go on holiday kid was born Spain... I'd say that kids Spanish, don't matter if he been cooking in the UK ahha
@@LiamTapey nah thats totally different man. your car was designed in Japan mate..no Swindon lol its Japanese
@@LiamTapey like Toyota aygo's you could say are french tho. because they were designed and built by peugeot group in France. french designers french made french car. Honda source and manufacturer most of its own parts and they build their cars by themselves. be that with different plants around the world. but its still honda built and design, honda technology, honda engineering lol last time i checked Honda was Japanese not English so jamies quote wasnt wrong at all.
@@ChillinLikeAVillain1210 in my eyes it's English... It's like deciding u want a kid on holiday then fucking once home and then it's born in England too... English😂
@@LiamTapey Lanuage Timothy!
I had a remapped 2.2cdti type s gt of the same year, beautiful drive with phenomenal economy...190bhp but pulling out 50+ mpg...it had 185,000 on the clock when I let it go, but it still felt tight and I’m sure it has many years left...
It's a Honda, even neglected they won't let you down. Amazing cars.
Can someone please link me to his other video he mentioned? What i mean is the not customized raw type t
Just bought one in nighthawk black with 83k on it. Build number R-00064. Lovely car and a joy to drive
the only problem with my type-r fn2 is that for the best driving position the speedometer is behind the wheel. 212000km in.
Mines on 133k drives well. Turbo next year🥳
I would. Nothin could go wrong wit 2.0 ivtec. Bulletproof engines
4:50, dayum! That thing screams
It's worth it if you are going to mod it. Nice cheap platform to build upon.
Clarkson slagged it. The stig though loved it and it got hot hatch of the year by top gear. So fk what clarkson said. Stig reckons it's the better car over the old ome
Clarkson as got teeth like a freshly painted creosote fence that's been set on fire and then been kicked in. And he also knows fuck all about cars and everything he says is scripted. I wouldn't want his opinion/advice on me buying my daughter a rocking horse 🐴 never mind a car.
@@deedge73 Chris Harris said the same thing about the Car...
I actually own the car that Clarkson tested on Top Gear
Mine handles absolutely amazing and I don’t know what his problem was with it
I buy type s 4 months ago, best Car on my Life
iv got one in black same as that but only 69k on it the engine is magic 9 k rev out on the limiter if the limiter wasnt there it would still be going , my de cat aswell with standard exhaust , but in new yr full system from manifold back with lightened flywheel and clutch with complete re map , mine is an odd one as iv got no cruis control or a/c and as its a standard one its goes lie fuck so im not to sure if maybe honda done a couple on special builds ?
if anyone knows it would help me.
also can the car owner tell me if the fog light entrys make a diffrence to the induction as iv got a TSS intake which is music to my ears !!!
im looking at getting them aswell as i have no fog lights myself.
Come to Sydney and do a review on my FK8 Type R
Yeah I hear you but low mileage is always the best root to go less engine problems etc
Of course it is thats why low mileage is allways more expensive
“More people should have them” ...brilliant 😜😜🤣😎
U can get one below 100k for like 3000-4000 grand
mine was 4 grand, 89,000 miles. I'd expect to pay less for one on 150k purely because of wear and tear inside however they are built to last. EP3 probably more fun around a track (never driven one) but if you're on a public road and the lack of IRS is a problem you're probably driving too fast :P
Yes the higher the millage the less its worth same with any car
You really struggle to unstuck these from the road and I tried. Flat out 150 in the rain hard into the corners you could feel it sliding but never uncontrollably.
I loved mine. The lack of power wasn’t the issue, it was the terrible ride comfort. I had it for 3 years, and then had to sell it, couldn’t handle the suspension on UK roads.
Was just about to write the same thing. I started to hate mine, extremely uncomfortable, terrible build quality, felt slow compared to EP3, sold it and bought a wrx impreza.
@@Idleuk terrible build quality? Probably one of the most reliable cars you can buy
@@Idleuk maybe unlucky ay, most are near faultless if kept serviced
I thought I was the only crazy person 😜 there's just something about those up and down shifts every boy & girls dream at an affordable price 😉
i know of an ep3 with 250+ bhp you can maybe drive... give me a shout
Issue with higher mileage cars is they'll be harder to sell on in the future for a decent price. But one should be buying cars to enjoy and not to try to profit on...
Anyway the FN2 is probably as good as they come, most things on it can be done yourself if money is tight. I have a regular 1.8 5 door car and I do all my own servicing including changing all 4 corners of the suspension. The FN2 uses exactly the same setup so it'll be just as easy. Obviously check things like clutch and gearbox but they're easily done. They don't seem to rust all that much but check the boot isn't leaking as in get to the lower carpet under the false floor. The leak is easy enough to fix, just annoying in Winter.
The reason why I don't like the FN2 personally is it doesn't come in 5 door and it's too hardcore for my aging sensibilities. I value ride comfort over out and out handling. Taking nothing away from the K20 engine however as it's the last of the line of the high revving NA engines, of which we'll never see again. I've had an MB6 with the B18C4 in it so I fully get the appeal of Honda's VTEC.
Picking 1 up on Weds. Been through more hands than a fiver and a full 12m with a decat.... cheap tho.
Have i just bought a cash pit? 156k
It’s a super quick car and mine has 30k on the clocks for a 2007, but golly it’s awful in the wet. The backend always gives on the corner, and I’ve changed the wheels and tyres etc. Remap with box to 225bhp and straight through exhaust. Btw GT spec is better with AC.
Analogg I drove a friends civic 2.2 diesel in barely wet weather and in a small right hand bend the back end stepped out but I caught it and I was taking it easy 😂
Mr330d nice and quick the 2.2 but yeah same with the non R also
Analogg I was surprised because I was literally doing about 35 around the bend quite dangerous really but I can confirm the 2.2 diesel is rather quick 😂
Anyone know how much the insurance would be for a new driver? I’m 18?