There are way too many cases where a child is abused to death and after the fact, people say, "Why didn't someone do something?" If there is a suspicion of abuse, it should be investigated.
Can I speak from the perspective of the child removed due to "suspected child abuse" for a second? Eternal exams week, I get one chance to sit these exams and I require a medical certificate in order to resit them, no exceptions. I get pulled from my home and sent 3 hours away because of a claim made. No investigation done first, just dragged from my home with absolutely nothing other than my own clothing and sent away. No clothing, no belongings, and being marked with an instant fail as I hadn't shown up to my exams because dcfs didn't even have the decency to inform the school. An the kicker? The claim made was that my parents "weren't taking mental health issues seriosuly."
@@ashlynn9739 Did you HAVE mental health issues you were struggling with that they were ignoring? Or are you saying someone just ASSUMED you were mentally ill (unverified, just assumed), and since you weren't in treatment, it must be because your parents are negligent?
@@lyn6768 I keep hearing about children seized without cause from loving parents, but what I see irl are children who are left w their parents; I keep seeing is parents getting reported and still keeping their kids. In most cases, that's probably for the best, but in some cases I just wonder *how*?
No one wants to destroy another adult. That is how so many abusers are able to get away with it for so long. No one wants to spilt up a family especially if there is a legitimate reason for an injury
@@crossyuki2010 the investigation needs to start as soon as you suspect something to be up, they need to look into other potential causes parallel to that investigation, but it's important to be on top of this kind of stuff. Hospital social services need to be a lot more sensitive about how they approach parents in cases like this, explain that it's standard procedure when certain injury patterns are recognised, that it's no immediate judgement on them and that they're looking into all scenarios and covering all their bases.
I agree, I was a mandatory reporter when i was studying childcare and there are so many stories of people not being 100% certain and by the time they were it was too late and the child/children ended uo dead or with life changing injuries
@@msminx_ don’t forget the scenarios that go the other way. I did my childcare degree, and my teacher told me of a worker who reported a father because the 3 y old told her that ‘daddy slept in my bed last night.’ I’m sure I don’t need to specify what conclusions she jumped to! Investigations eventually revealed the full story - the 3 y old had wet the bed in the middle of the night, so she slept with mum and the dad changed the sheets and slept on her bed. Alone. But the damage was done by then. The man was labelled a child abuser because the teacher didn’t bother to ask any questions before reporting that one sentence to the authorities. I’m sure THAT is a horrific thing to live with, too. 😞
@@plantguy3156 Well, the fact that their first thought was something sinister isn't really the problem so much as the fact that they didn't bother to ask a single question before escalating the situation. I don't know how the child sounded when they said that, for example... maybe they were crying? Because they still felt upset about wetting the bed, I mean, not because daddy hurt them in any way. So a crying child saying that sentence would activate anyone's alarm bells. Mandatory responders are supposed to be suspicious and look out for the welfare of the children in their care... but one simple question - 'why did daddy sleep in your bed, Jennifer/Johnny?' - would have answered their concerns.
He absolutely had to report it. He has a duty to do that. My family was in the same spot when I was little. By age 5 I had multiple ER visits: cracked ribs, broken nose, sprains, etc. On one visit the nurses noticed tons of bruises all over me and started whispering. My dad overheard them and asked what the issue was. The hesitantly said they were just wondering about the bruises. See, he was the Nursing Director of the hospital…their boss. So he asked what they would do if the child wasn’t his and they said they would report it. He told them that they had to report it then as no exceptions could be made based on who the parents are. That must have been so hard for him to do, I can’t even imagine. Thankfully when Child services arrived they came in with a doctor. The doc took one look at my file, and the fact I was on 48 children’s asprin a day for JRA, and said there was no abuse. He then merely touched me and a bruise started appearing almost immediately in the shape of his fingers. I am so thankful for an alert doctor! But I also like to think that the staff that day learned a lesson that they have to report when they are suspicious.
@@NiecieSavo Children’s asprin. Those were the days kids with JRA weren’t given any treatment meds beside mild painkillers/NSAIDs. Thankfully times have changed and kids now are given much better options. That asprin dose was the only thing that kept me moving. It also kept the inflamation down enough that the deformities were minimal. I needed up in a much better situation than the kids that were taken off asprin and left with nothing to help.
WHO was the first? But this is the problem. 1000 guilt people don’t make up for even one who’s not. Imagine it’s you for what ever reason who is charged for something you haven’t done getting locked away maybe even killed?!
Honestly the stories of my injuries probably had them looking sideways at my mom. Funnily after like 11+ concussions, I think I’ve had my head scanned maybe twice; if that.
Yup, my tiny daughter started full contact karate when she was 10, so at the beginning of each school year I have a conversation with the new teacher lol
I just spent 2 weeks with my brother, SIL and 3 young nephews (7, 4.5 & 18m). Those kids... new bruises and cuts every single day from all the mischief they got up to at the farm! I can imagine that someone who doesn't know my brother and SIL might... look at them sideways! Lol. Not every bruise, cut or broken finger is because the parents are beating the children.
I felt really scared taking my 2 year old to the emergency after he broke his arm. I thought they would probably blame me. Thank God they were really nice doctors. He broke his arm just falling from the dining room chair onto the carpet. It didnt even seem possible.
My son they did although with him was bullying at school they helped get school to sort it fully as I wasn't able to change schools like I would of preferred but having each time recorded especially since they didn't ring me and kept him at school so took longer to get him treated. They did say if not brought the slips 5he nurse filled out on 2hat happened to prove it could of been me being investigated. All because the bullies mum was friends with the head teacher she got fired and kid was expelled
Am I the only one that didn't think the difference in the CT scans were small? Like I feel like it is pretty noticible, especially if you were a doctor
Yeah, I'm a neuroscience student and I came to the comments to see if anyone else said this. To me the atrophy seems quite pronounced, but I'm guessing the scans were just made that way for the sake of good TV, so viewers would be able to actually see the difference when presented with scans side by side.
they most likely didn’t make it small so it was easier for the viewers to see. little things like being able to see what’s wrong makes the viewers feel smart and in on the journey
@@andrewc6778 How many people have you examined for long term problems as a result of a brain injury? I know several people who got shuttled out of ER only to have brain traumas gone undiagnosed due to a lack of a scan. This is just tv and they use whatever images they have in props, but in the real world a back knock on the head is nothing to ignore. Especially when it affected capability, which was demonstrated in this girl when she was first injured.
For the juvenile one yes, but from the sounds of it they think it's the late onset/adult one. That one is less severe and doesn't always affect life expectancy.
Their explanation was stilted and sounded suspicious as hell. She also didnt confirm it with much enthusiasm. Shouldnt that nurse (forgot her name) whose normally so on the ball sounds like a newbie here
I agree. I noticed their behaviour was pretty odd, but I didn’t get any huge red flags from it. Though, that still doesn’t explain the *head nurse’s* complete dismal of the parents response.
I'm not up to date yet for who's left and things (except I know Manning, Rhodes, Reese and Nurse Sexton leave), but I like this new doctor, seems like a cool guy
@@phazzy her surrogate got into a car crash or something (traumatic head injury, coma) and there was a whole thing about her being an incubator, it was one of the first epsiodes
if that kid has tay-sachs... :( then that character's parents... oof they're lucky that they've got her at her age [realistically it's usually fatal with a short life expectancy]
Almost always fatal by age 15 becoming more and more debilitating as the child ages …i feel for the parents as well,I know someone who had a child with Tay-Sachs and she died right before her sixth birthday…she was wheelchair bound and couldn’t eat or breathe on her own by age 4(she had a tracheostomy and a feeding tube)…it’s a horrible disease,for both the child and the parents
is it bad that while watching this and before the answer was revealed i didnt think it was the dad but thought it was the mother with her umbrella story 🤣
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The parents would come across as suspicious at first glance; their behaviours showed that they were certainly nervous, but there are a lot of subtle cues there that are worth noting. The parents support one another and the whole family looks to one another for reassurance. Their tones of voices also sound more worried rather than evasive. The daughter also did not show typical behavioural indications that would point to abuse. You don’t see anyone of the family members distancing themselves either.
If your child is so 'clumsy' that they're constantly falling and getting injuries that require a trip to the ED, then SOMETHING is wrong an you should take them to their pediatrician.
@@goldenboybenny7511 always commenting the same few things, new accounts (because they eventually get deleted), generic names and profile pictures (especially if they're s*xual names/pics),..
I was in the hospital for pregnancy test results from a doctor choni he has to take my ultrasound to test the blood sugar levels are commonly prescribed medication treatment for diabetes prevention causes diabetes prevention treatment that they have caused a virus to occur from cancer treatment to cure the virus infection from surgery to prevent pregnancy complications for me
It's a stupid trend where someone has to claim to be the first to watch a video. It's annoying and I wish they would realise nobody cares who saw a video first.
@@SoulOfJustice1994 this is exactly what I thought before, then I realise if it makes them happy and only annoys me, then who I my to get so annoyed. I'm happy for them. I don't get it, but then it's my fault, not theirs.
That's only true for female ginger cats. All a human needs to be ginger is two people sharing the ginger gene. If mama and daddy have the ginger gene, they don't have to be ginger themselves but can get a ginger kid. If mama has the gene but daddy doesn't, then no ginger kid.
There are way too many cases where a child is abused to death and after the fact, people say, "Why didn't someone do something?" If there is a suspicion of abuse, it should be investigated.
Sadly even if the case is reported and investigates, as long as the child has roof over the head and food, they just send them back with the abuser.
Can I speak from the perspective of the child removed due to "suspected child abuse" for a second?
Eternal exams week, I get one chance to sit these exams and I require a medical certificate in order to resit them, no exceptions. I get pulled from my home and sent 3 hours away because of a claim made. No investigation done first, just dragged from my home with absolutely nothing other than my own clothing and sent away. No clothing, no belongings, and being marked with an instant fail as I hadn't shown up to my exams because dcfs didn't even have the decency to inform the school. An the kicker? The claim made was that my parents "weren't taking mental health issues seriosuly."
@@ashlynn9739 Did you HAVE mental health issues you were struggling with that they were ignoring?
Or are you saying someone just ASSUMED you were mentally ill (unverified, just assumed), and since you weren't in treatment, it must be because your parents are negligent?
@@lyn6768 I keep hearing about children seized without cause from loving parents, but what I see irl are children who are left w their parents; I keep seeing is parents getting reported and still keeping their kids. In most cases, that's probably for the best, but in some cases I just wonder *how*?
No one wants to destroy another adult. That is how so many abusers are able to get away with it for so long. No one wants to spilt up a family especially if there is a legitimate reason for an injury
Unpopular opinion: He didn't need to be 100% sure that there's no other explanation. The second child abuse is suspected it should be reported
@@crossyuki2010 the investigation needs to start as soon as you suspect something to be up, they need to look into other potential causes parallel to that investigation, but it's important to be on top of this kind of stuff.
Hospital social services need to be a lot more sensitive about how they approach parents in cases like this, explain that it's standard procedure when certain injury patterns are recognised, that it's no immediate judgement on them and that they're looking into all scenarios and covering all their bases.
I agree, I was a mandatory reporter when i was studying childcare and there are so many stories of people not being 100% certain and by the time they were it was too late and the child/children ended uo dead or with life changing injuries
@@msminx_ don’t forget the scenarios that go the other way.
I did my childcare degree, and my teacher told me of a worker who reported a father because the 3 y old told her that ‘daddy slept in my bed last night.’
I’m sure I don’t need to specify what conclusions she jumped to!
Investigations eventually revealed the full story - the 3 y old had wet the bed in the middle of the night, so she slept with mum and the dad changed the sheets and slept on her bed. Alone.
But the damage was done by then. The man was labelled a child abuser because the teacher didn’t bother to ask any questions before reporting that one sentence to the authorities.
I’m sure THAT is a horrific thing to live with, too. 😞
"The child didn't admit she's being ab/used when her (potential) ab/user was in the room... CLEARLY she's fine!!"
@@plantguy3156 Well, the fact that their first thought was something sinister isn't really the problem so much as the fact that they didn't bother to ask a single question before escalating the situation.
I don't know how the child sounded when they said that, for example... maybe they were crying? Because they still felt upset about wetting the bed, I mean, not because daddy hurt them in any way. So a crying child saying that sentence would activate anyone's alarm bells.
Mandatory responders are supposed to be suspicious and look out for the welfare of the children in their care... but one simple question - 'why did daddy sleep in your bed, Jennifer/Johnny?' - would have answered their concerns.
He absolutely had to report it. He has a duty to do that.
My family was in the same spot when I was little. By age 5 I had multiple ER visits: cracked ribs, broken nose, sprains, etc.
On one visit the nurses noticed tons of bruises all over me and started whispering. My dad overheard them and asked what the issue was. The hesitantly said they were just wondering about the bruises. See, he was the Nursing Director of the hospital…their boss.
So he asked what they would do if the child wasn’t his and they said they would report it. He told them that they had to report it then as no exceptions could be made based on who the parents are.
That must have been so hard for him to do, I can’t even imagine.
Thankfully when Child services arrived they came in with a doctor. The doc took one look at my file, and the fact I was on 48 children’s asprin a day for JRA, and said there was no abuse.
He then merely touched me and a bruise started appearing almost immediately in the shape of his fingers.
I am so thankful for an alert doctor! But I also like to think that the staff that day learned a lesson that they have to report when they are suspicious.
Should have been called just for the lethal amount of aspirin
@@NiecieSavo Children’s asprin. Those were the days kids with JRA weren’t given any treatment meds beside mild painkillers/NSAIDs. Thankfully times have changed and kids now are given much better options.
That asprin dose was the only thing that kept me moving. It also kept the inflamation down enough that the deformities were minimal. I needed up in a much better situation than the kids that were taken off asprin and left with nothing to help.
He did the right thing if abuse is suspected it should be reported by law and hospital policy
Yes he did so they have to, investigate to make sure. Too many children die from abuse parents and stepfather or stepmother
Dr Dylan is absolutely amazing with young children!! He’s also a wonderful children doctor and knows how to keep them happy and safe.
thanks for all the likes! i only got 65 but it’s the highest
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@@Armaria2203 ikr:)
WHO was the first?
But this is the problem. 1000 guilt people don’t make up for even one who’s not.
Imagine it’s you for what ever reason who is charged for something you haven’t done getting locked away maybe even killed?!
@@DKofDAH you won’t get locked away without evidence…
Honestly the stories of my injuries probably had them looking sideways at my mom. Funnily after like 11+ concussions, I think I’ve had my head scanned maybe twice; if that.
Yup, my tiny daughter started full contact karate when she was 10, so at the beginning of each school year I have a conversation with the new teacher lol
😮 you ok?
I just spent 2 weeks with my brother, SIL and 3 young nephews (7, 4.5 & 18m). Those kids... new bruises and cuts every single day from all the mischief they got up to at the farm!
I can imagine that someone who doesn't know my brother and SIL might... look at them sideways! Lol.
Not every bruise, cut or broken finger is because the parents are beating the children.
I felt really scared taking my 2 year old to the emergency after he broke his arm. I thought they would probably blame me. Thank God they were really nice doctors. He broke his arm just falling from the dining room chair onto the carpet. It didnt even seem possible.
My son they did although with him was bullying at school they helped get school to sort it fully as I wasn't able to change schools like I would of preferred but having each time recorded especially since they didn't ring me and kept him at school so took longer to get him treated. They did say if not brought the slips 5he nurse filled out on 2hat happened to prove it could of been me being investigated. All because the bullies mum was friends with the head teacher she got fired and kid was expelled
New doctor? I like this guy!
Me too.
I love this new doctor, especially with his back story in Chigago PD. (I'm not sure of he was actually show in the seperate show)
Yes he was in Chigago PD
Yeah, it's the same character.
@@taffy1145oh my god what episodes? Do you know?
Am I the only one that didn't think the difference in the CT scans were small? Like I feel like it is pretty noticible, especially if you were a doctor
Yeah, I'm a neuroscience student and I came to the comments to see if anyone else said this. To me the atrophy seems quite pronounced, but I'm guessing the scans were just made that way for the sake of good TV, so viewers would be able to actually see the difference when presented with scans side by side.
Pretty sure doctors don’t view ct scans , it gets sent off to a specialist who does look at them
they most likely didn’t make it small so it was easier for the viewers to see. little things like being able to see what’s wrong makes the viewers feel smart and in on the journey
@@andrewc6778 How many people have you examined for long term problems as a result of a brain injury? I know several people who got shuttled out of ER only to have brain traumas gone undiagnosed due to a lack of a scan. This is just tv and they use whatever images they have in props, but in the real world a back knock on the head is nothing to ignore. Especially when it affected capability, which was demonstrated in this girl when she was first injured.
@@hilaryc3203 I know? This is completely unrelated to my comment though?
Why are they so chill. The prongoniss is that they usually die at 15 from late onset
For the juvenile one yes, but from the sounds of it they think it's the late onset/adult one. That one is less severe and doesn't always affect life expectancy.
Their explanation was stilted and sounded suspicious as hell. She also didnt confirm it with much enthusiasm. Shouldnt that nurse (forgot her name) whose normally so on the ball sounds like a newbie here
her name is Maggie but yes i agree
I agree. I noticed their behaviour was pretty odd, but I didn’t get any huge red flags from it. Though, that still doesn’t explain the *head nurse’s* complete dismal of the parents response.
If this was the other way around, you wouldn’t be saying that
Keep up the awesome work
I'm not up to date yet for who's left and things (except I know Manning, Rhodes, Reese and Nurse Sexton leave), but I like this new doctor, seems like a cool guy
I might be mistaken but I think he left the show too
@@ApartDragonFruit NOOOO :(
Dr Charles left too :/
@@snowyowl2784 nooo not Dr Charles 😢
Glad i stayed till the end on this one!!! 😬
"Sometimes you just got to check yourself"
Me - "before you wreck yourself"
The nurse and the doc have no place being this HOT ahahah
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Had he not been suspicious and proved deeper they would have missed the diagnostic.
Never assume, find the answer
Isn’t the wife in one of the episodes in Chicago fire where she had an abusive husband and they got into a car crash isn’t that the same lady
i do think it is lol i recognized her too. i think she's also from another episode of med as well but i can't exactly remember what the case was
@@phazzy her surrogate got into a car crash or something (traumatic head injury, coma) and there was a whole thing about her being an incubator, it was one of the first epsiodes
@@irenebae3566 oh yes i remember now, thank you! but i still feel like there was another one, unless it was a different actress who looked similar
She was the one who was being abused by her husband and Casey stopped her from killing him on Chicago fire
My previous GP is blond and his wife has brown hair and both their kids has red hair.
Red hair is a recessive gene, so a lot of people with red hair come from parents who don't actively have red hair themselves.
I have red hair my mum is blonde my dad has black hair
Its a skipped generation as they both have red haired relatives
Maggie is so beautiful
check yourself before you wreck yourself-
missed oportunity
Keep up with all the good work and keep being awesome ❤
if that kid has tay-sachs... :( then that character's parents... oof they're lucky that they've got her at her age [realistically it's usually fatal with a short life expectancy]
Almost always fatal by age 15 becoming more and more debilitating as the child ages …i feel for the parents as well,I know someone who had a child with Tay-Sachs and she died right before her sixth birthday…she was wheelchair bound and couldn’t eat or breathe on her own by age 4(she had a tracheostomy and a feeding tube)…it’s a horrible disease,for both the child and the parents
Love this channel
We are the real fans
We are
I've never seen a full, unbroken episode of this show
The way the mother said if we loose her. It will affect us
It's like she's saying I would rather keep my husband than divorce him if we loose her
Bro took “ITS THE FINALLLL BRAIN SELL” to a hole Nother level😂
Moral of the story: brothers gotta stick together.
is it bad that while watching this and before the answer was revealed i didnt think it was the dad but thought it was the mother with her umbrella story 🤣
Excellent, I love it
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Could they look anymore that their hiding something
The parents would come across as suspicious at first glance; their behaviours showed that they were certainly nervous, but there are a lot of subtle cues there that are worth noting. The parents support one another and the whole family looks to one another for reassurance. Their tones of voices also sound more worried rather than evasive. The daughter also did not show typical behavioural indications that would point to abuse. You don’t see anyone of the family members distancing themselves either.
The dad Looks like Ben Shapiro if he hit puberty lol
Hahahaha facts don't care about his feelings
Exactly what I was thinking!
Of course they give the ginger girl an Irish name 💀
bro fr😭😭😭
My name is Siobhan and i'm Ginger :)
depending on how it is spelt might not be irish
Shivawn is hebrew
@@jaydebolton6414 perhaps
When was the last time you see a white man called Jamal
Don't be quick to judge 😊
Amazing
Tony Hawks parent were reported for abuse. Think of that
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If your child is so 'clumsy' that they're constantly falling and getting injuries that require a trip to the ED, then SOMETHING is wrong an you should take them to their pediatrician.
she looks like the girl on the cover of that one childrens book ' a bad case of the stripes' lol
am i the only person who remembers the mom from another episode.. like is this her surrogate daughter?
Does anyone else think that Kate - the mum - looks abit like Jessica Capshaw aka Arizona on Greys anatomy?! (Well, depending on the angle! 😂)
Is it just me or is the mom in a lot of episodes and in Chicago Fire to
is that childs name chiffon what
siobhan pronounced shivawn
it's siobhán
And in the real world the father would have been arrested, sent to prison while his daughter's symptoms deteriorate. Ah the world we live in
Lmao so many bots in the comments section it’s embarrassing
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How do you know there bots.
@@goldenboybenny7511 always commenting the same few things, new accounts (because they eventually get deleted), generic names and profile pictures (especially if they're s*xual names/pics),..
The best
Ngl she looks like Charles II
She does you’re right
That dad kinda looks like Ben Shapiro. Anyone else, yes/no??
He could be his kid brother 😉
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Woo
These are the parents that had that surrogate that got in a car crash this is their child 😂
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@@aaiezzroblox ffs, hold yourself back, weirdo
Can you stop spanning this page you’re being disrespectful
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@@keshaestevan3623 gurl you got the nerve-
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I am so glad that the litle girl is okay and her mom I think the mom broken the girls arm I think
Why are you all your videos always Pacific stuff in the titles? Change the name
It's sounds like adhd
I mean...yeah
@@neotyppe4469 unless your nerodivergent you won't understand
@@johannahyde-parker8422 I am. I was agreeing with you
Yeah definitely could be
They just said it’s something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Sup why is everyone saying first WHO IS FIRST?!?
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It's a stupid trend where someone has to claim to be the first to watch a video. It's annoying and I wish they would realise nobody cares who saw a video first.
@@SoulOfJustice1994 this is exactly what I thought before, then I realise if it makes them happy and only annoys me, then who I my to get so annoyed.
I'm happy for them. I don't get it, but then it's my fault, not theirs.
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How Tf does she have red hair, since both parents have to have red hair to spread the gene to the child yet non of them have red hair.
Adopted
Maybe the mum bleached her hair
I believe it was just a struggle to find a suitable after for this scene so they used her as a best fit which I can see is appropriate
Both parents don’t need the have red hair, but have relatives that do
I believe
That's only true for female ginger cats. All a human needs to be ginger is two people sharing the ginger gene.
If mama and daddy have the ginger gene, they don't have to be ginger themselves but can get a ginger kid. If mama has the gene but daddy doesn't, then no ginger kid.
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