How long does it take to learn the hurdy gurdy? (+GUESTS)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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The burning question of “How long does it take to learn the hurdy gurdy” answered by experts, fellow gurdy players, my friends and me. :)
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I absolutely love that you make these videos. Content creators like you are why I bought a hurdy gurdy, and am learning now. Thank you for your hard work, it is making a huge difference!
Thank you, I'm glad to hear it and I'm happy for you and your new gurdy! :D
Which luthier did you buy from as I’m looking to buy one
@@user-kq5qp6dh8l I bought an Altarwind, as that's the closest luthier in my area. Lots of people will have a lot of input if you join one of the main Hurdy Gurdy facebook groups or reddit groups. They also have a lot of beginner information, so you don't fall into the traps of buying a cheap gurdy.
I play guitar and I would love to learn to play the hurdy gurdy but in my country (Chile) it is difficult to find this kind of instruments! Thank you for this video michalina ❤️
You can buy over the net.
Sedo luthier has a web site
This video is great for moral support. I spent the passed year learning as much as I could about the instrument. Now that I have one, and have been playing for a month it's cool to hear all these players that I've been listening to talk about their experiences and giving tips for beginners
@Nicholas Schweninger Altarwind out of Oregon. Great experience and excellent craftsmanship
Thank you for taking time to do this! I'm one of the 'hurdy gurdy as a first instrument' crowd and will look forward to any other videos you create :D
Thank you very much, I'll create a more tutorials, so I hope you'll like it! :)
Thank you for this! I been around instruments my whole life. I really want a hurdy gurdy! I decided that I will study it as much as I can for about a year. Then I will make a purchase. I know there isn’t teaches that can help me in my area and no one really knows what it is here. But I know I can do it. I know I can. If my heart wants something I get it done. This will be a great challenge. Salute to the hurdy gurdy players!🍻
Please do those lessons you've talking in the video. I'll love to get the hurgy gurdy (as a first instrument) :D
Lon3wolf TV I’m finishing recordings of the first lesson today! ☺️ do you know already any topic that would be interesting for you?
@@michalina_malisz Oh great!!!! can't wait to see what you've done.
I think you'll cover the main subjects in your videos. But if i have to tell, what i would like to learn in those videos, i'll say...
- Learning the basics of the instrument (how to operate it, how to setup coton and rosin, how it works and how to maintain the instrument)
- Learning the approach of the trumpeting movement, and getting decent notes out of the instrument. (not necessarily a full in depth tutorial but basics)
- Some little tips you can provide to us as an experimented Gurdist, and some little exercices that can help to improve (again not necessarily very complex exercices)
:)
Lon3wolf TV the first video is about how the hurdy gurdy works, so it’s just about right 😊 thank you for writing down your ideas, it helps me out a lot! 👍
@@michalina_malisz Great! Can't wait to see those videos :)
You're welcome, glad i can help a bit with this :D
You are awesome for highlighting the experts in this video, Michalina! ❤️ It doesn't happen often enough on UA-cam, but they all deserve more exposure. You're the best. 😊
They truly do! :)
I'm so happy about how helpful the hurdy gurdy community is!
According to Sergio, I'm one of the crazy ones hah. The Nerdy Gurdy is my first real instrument (excluding my jaw harp lol) and I recall almost nothing from the music lessons everyone at my gymnasium (the school-type not the sports building haha) had to partake in.
I've been playing for about a month and even though I already managed to rip the high drone string twice while tuning, I'm making progress and am determined to become better!
Michalina, thank you for providing great gurdies that don't cost more than an entire month's wage! I'm looking forward to order from you once I feel confident that I won't break anything delicate and I reach the limit of my Nerdy Gurdy (I'm not the best at woodworking, so I think I built in a slight scratchiness into the high melody by mistake :c)
How are you now, 6 months later friend?
@@sgoodman72 Hey there! I would say I'm so-so at reading notation and pretty good at finding the right key when I think about playing a certain note. I can play short melodies (like 30 - 60 second segments of a longer song) from memory depending on how much repetition there is in it. And I can do some of the trumpette coups, although I'm still struggling to be consistent while playing a melody simultaneously.
But I should also admit that I'm only practicing maybe an hour or two per week right now, as quite a lotta stuff is going on that keeps me busy. I think my biggest issue right now is the proper maintenance and troubleshooting when some notes sound off, which kinda kills my mood for practicing.
@@Crotaro Thanks for the update, ive been looking for comments from folks just jumping into it - as I am thinking about beginning myself (with only a limited musical background).
Would you say that the maintenance and troubleshooting really hinders entry and is a barrier to success? Or is it just more annoying than anything, but you still know how to do it?
My biggest worry isn't learning how to play, it's more not knowing how to properly maintain and tune the instrument itself. Thanks
@@sgoodman72 That's a good question! As I mentioned in my original comment, I began learning by using the Nerdy Gurdy, which I assembled myself. The maintenance part on the Nerdy Gurdy is, I would say, alright and doesn't present that big of a hindrance to your fun in playing (if you didn't mess up during the initial construction phase). I relatively quickly noticed when a slightly eh-sounding note wasn't because of improper tuning or something but because I had reached the limits of the Nerdy Gurdy (because, y'know, I'm not a master woodworker, so little errors accumulated during assembly). Don't let that dissuade you from seeing if you like the instrument by going with the Nerdy Gurdy first, though! The 350€ really can't be beaten! If you're lucky, you might have hurdy gurdy events near you where you can try out playing the gurdy, too!
That said, I did buy a restored gurdy from 1970 and while I see that it does have much higher potential, I also noticed that I can't anymore quite figure out how to fix, for example, the high notes sounding screechy. I think that's because I'm not used to the much more delicate treatment this professional gurdy might require. I signed up for an online gurdy maintenance workshop later this month for 30€ or so. I'm hoping to find the source of my issue there with the help of a pro. So I guess you could say I'm still very much determined to learn the gurdy? :D
@@Crotaro Awesome, thanks for the very thorough and detailed reply. You've helped me out a bunch! You've done your civic duty for the day - now you can kick back and relax.
Thank you very much for this contribution! You have helped me find references to learning better. Just got a Gurdy last week haha.
I heard a story from a friend of mine who went to Ireland to study with an old gentleman born into a famous musical family who had been playing fiddle since he was old enough to hold the instrument. He was, at the time of this lesson, well into his 90s. At one point the two players just sat and were quiet together. Then the old gentleman said, "I feel like I'm finally starting to get it..."
This isn't meant to discourage anyone from taking up any instrument, but to say there is ultimately no end to learning any skill, especially musical skills.
For me, having only a tiny bit of experience as a child with piano and guitar, and as an adult in my late twenties with a $7 tin whistle, prior musical chops were not part of my start with the gurdy. But I have ridden horses and motorcycles and both of these require a lot of complex decision making, a willingness to go where the physics and moods of your mount take you and extricate yourself safely if there is danger, and (most of all!) an ability to study and to learn. Weirdly, these two skill sets are the basis of my musical career. It also helps that I play with an extremely competent and gifted partner who is whole heartedly supportive of my journey and even stated outright that I had to have a gurdy!
I've been playing thirty years and, except for a one-time "here's how you set it up, tune it and here's how you should hold your hands and body" the day after I got my instrument, I was basically on my own for the first ten years or so. I had dropped myself into the deep end of the pool and was performing with my gurdy about a week or ten days after I first got it for which I am now both grateful and horrified. If I had had time to sit at home and obsess over it I likely would have never left the house! So that was a good thing. However, partly because of the repertoire I was using the gurdy for and lack of instruction from a good teacher I didn't make progress on the trompette until about fifteen years ago. Thanks to Tobie Miller and Gilles Chabenat, who I was so lucky to study with at the late and lamented Over The Water Hurdy Gurdy Festival, there was a dent made in my ignorance and I've been working on it ever since. I'm still crap at it but still! Progress!
For me gurdy is a spiritual study as well as a musical endeavor. Playing them has made me a more patient, kind and careful person for which I am deeply grateful. I still struggle now and then, especially with the newer of my two gurdies, but my old one, a Hubbert Volksgurdy, is more than a tool, it's a true friend and companion, a way to reach people musically and emotionally that I never, ever anticipated, and I would be lost without it.
I consider myself a beginner/intermediate player and I know I will spend the rest of my life trying to do better by this marvelous instrument. There is nothing else like it and I am so grateful to have fallen into this life, and to have so many wonderful people playing it, too, to turn to for help, inspiration and comfort.
Thanks for this wonderful video!
Interesting topic, thanks for putting this together. Like anything else, it's about motivation, inspiration and practice. Of course, musical abilities and music theory help. Be patient with yourself, set realistic expectations, and most importantly, have FUN doing it.
I feel like Sergio is calling me out at 18:15. I have never played an instrument before, but I am in the process of buying a hurdy gurdy to learn. Pray for me.
Really interesting, as usual :) I really enjoyed seeing all those friendly faces talking about this instrument
Gurdy love 4 eva. ❤️ :D Thank you!!
bravo Michalina!! this is really great!!! Thank you to invite us for explain our thinkings about hurdy gurdy!! all the best Greg
Thank you, Greg, your extensive answer made this video special! :D
I’m just now starting down the path of getting / playing a Hurdy Gurdy, and honestly it’s Eluveitie’s fault. Although I started listening to your band back when Anna was playing! I’ll never forget that show, especially since it was the first time they’d played in the US! It’s funny how things come full circle 😊
This video was super helpful, by the way, and a lot of good for thought!
Thank you so much! I'm very happy you started playing, and the reason why you started is something we have in common, for me it was also Eluveitie and Anna Murphy. :) Glad to hear you've found this video helpful, more is on the way. Keep cranking! ^_^
@@michalina_malisz must be amazing to play in the band that inspired you to learn the intrument
That sounds like a reasonable amount of time. I’ve played different instruments decades, like piano/synths, theremin, accordion, guitar/bass and lately violin and musical saw. I’ve dreamed of trying a hurdy-gurdy but in Finland I haven’t been able to see or try one.
Same problem, same country. :'( I'd love to have one and learn but it really isn't worth investing in if you're not even certain you can learn it XD
Thank you for this video. I've always loved music but never played an instrument. Learning about the hurdy gurdy is really inspiring me to finally learn to play. Kinda difficult to find a maker in my country (Argentina).
Such a talent of MIchalina play hurdy hurdy!!!
So, I don't play any (and never have played) instruments, which makes me nervous to invest in such an expensive and weird instrument for my first. However, like Sergio said, I am crazy and I really want this. I've adored this crazy ass instrument for the last 10 years. For effs sake, I even do air gurdy in the car. This isn't an instrument i want to join a band with, I just want it for my soul. How do I do this??
Hi, I'm in the same situation have you intend to play it?
Did you take the plunge? Just go for it! If you get a decent quality one, it’ll maintain resale value anyways - go stress free, but get a decent one!
We're in suspense....did you get one? I hope you're well....
MrLuridan No, not yet. I've had other life expenses come up, but the goal is still there. Someday soon!
@@daniellehurrell6620 Good luck to you!
Thank you so much for this video, it gave me a general idea about what to expect once I get my first hurdy gurdy. I can't wait to play as good as you🖤
You will! ^_^ My pleasure! :)
But, I will film tutorials and lessons, if you have any requests for the topics, let me know! :)
I ve been playing guitar for 4 years, and i have no ideea of music theory, and i can play many songs, just by ear. Btw, love your videos, keep up!
Guitar players are unique in their habit of learning fuck all about music theory. Anyone who learned an instrument in high school learned more theory than most guitar players do.
You are so nice, so beautiful and so full of light! I am so happy I had the great pleasure of meeting you and have some time to speak with you yesterday at the hotel in Belo Horizonte. Loved it so much!! I will never forget that amazing day. Thank you very much for making my life more colored.💟
Angel
I would love to learn to play it because it's typical of the traditional music of my land, Lombardy.
I want one! I have too short fingers for anything bigger than a ukulele, so this looks perfect for me!!
I love the sound of your voice.
Thank you, that's flattering! :)
Such a great and helpfull community, I wish I had that for the instrument I am trying to learn atm (Taglharpa/Jouhikko). Can barely find any teachers for that. I will certainly try out Hurdy Gurdy one day (when I have a steady income to afford one and more experiences with other instruments) and at least I know there is a huge community I can rely on
Hi there, thank you for all you do. Keep up the great work. 😊
Thank you, my pleasure!
@@michalina_malisz I don't even have interest in playing the hurdy gurdy, I'm a drummer who does country music & Church stuff. That being said I love interesting instruments in the hurdy-gurdy is definitely an interesting instrument that I have definitely been just watched a few videos of ever since seeing Rob Scallon play one.
Amazing Video, as always! I would love to see a "How to trompette" - technical video :)
Thank you and deal! :)
You are so talented and so beautiful michalina!
Thank you! :)
G'day from Australia. I have been wanting to play a Hurdy gurdy for a while and your videos are really helpful, but I am having trouble finding the resources (and instrument) to play. I was wondering if I could get your professional opinion on where to find good first hurdy gurdy online as none of the music stores where I live have any... Anyway keep up the good videos as they are really educational and entertaining 😄👍
Hi! Thank you for your message! I've got an online hurdy gurdy store and a workshop (we build the gurdies by ourselves) and we've got a more affordable beginner model coming soon: ancestore.eu/en_US/p/Hurdy-Gurdy-Saphona/54
That's all I can say for now, but stay tuned! 😏
Thank you so much.my hope is to learn hurdy hurdy. and with your channel I am sure that WE CAN DO IT...
Nice work Michalina!!
I just keep hearing Hurdy Gurdy done in a sexy way by Torbjörn.
Best UA-cam channel=Helvetion💯 You're sublime Michalina❤👑
Thank you, Tara! ^_^ You're da best!
Sorry i have never learned an instrument. But as soon as i can get one, i plan on practicing every day!
Very good! ^_^ Consistency is super important! :)
I just got my first gurdy and am loving it (53 years old) I've wanted one for about 20 years and finally got one. almost no musical experience and am pretty much playing for my own entertainment. I'm still just getting comfortable with where my fingers go without making tortured hamster noises but still,,, I enjoy every moment I spend cranking the thing. The mechanical side of maintaining/tuning the gurdy for me is part of the joy of ownership and playing it but I also fly RC helicopters and those little suckers are picky about set up.
TL,DR, If the hurdy gurdy really calls to you get one, you won't regret it. I hope to get a really good one from a reputable luthier after I get decent with my current gurdy. Learning more and more what I want. Individually adjustable chanter/melody string bridges are really nice for instance.
How has it been going over the last year?
@@sgoodman72 Well, Life keeps getting in the way (new job, only home on weekends)but i can now play amazing grace really well, Also have a Saphonia on order that should be here by November.
Great video! :)
Thank you! ^_^
Is there a link to a "how to tune the hurdy gurdy" video? I can't find it, and I really need it!! I think I'm going to buy some private online lessons through your website too, cuz your music is just awesome!
Gregory is so pleasant - Very nice guy! :)
I just came to say HELLO!
HELLO! (:
I play accordion, but I was just curious. I also play about 7-8 other instruments.
I really impressed after I watch this..but where could I find this this traditional instrument? How can I get this beautiful instrument?..in our country we don't find ,we don't get this instrument??
Love from ❤ India
You can check out our hurdy-gurdy online store, we have a workshop where we build them, here's the link: ancestore.eu/en_US/c/Hurdy-Gurdy/41/1/full :)
Greetings from Poland! ❤️
In this instrument I have no ideas which range i should have order? ..I dont understand there was some options like..1 string melodic , semisoft ,flightcase, trompottee ..drone??? What is that's?... that's I couldn't get make sense I have no ideas about it .in this instrument we can get both electric and wooden ??.
I have no music theory but can play some covers ok
Oh my gosh, I love your voice,❤️❤️❤️💛💛💛💛💛
Thank you so much for this...today UA-cam recommended the hurdy gurdy to me for whatever reason, and i'm smitten. Learning it doesn't seem like an impossible task now ( already play piano, guitar, cello and flute). Is the instrument terribly expensive to buy and maintain? I'm in Australia.
Hey, I'm so happy you found this video helpful! :) Hurdy gurdies are rather on the more expensive side, even simple instruments cost about $1000, some can cost less, but it's still a few hundred bucks to let go of. More advanced instruments cost from about $2000 up. At my gurdy store you can get the basic model for $1885 (2 melody strings, 2 trompette strings, 2 drones strings) + shipping cost (including flight case) for example. There is also one luthier building gurdies in Australia, can't remember his name now, but I can look him up if you'd be interested. :) Let me know!
@@michalina_malisz thank you so much for your reply. That would be wonderful, thank you.
@@LysGyngell The Australian luthier's name is Harry Wass, I've also found a fb group called Hurdy Gurdy Australia, here's the link: facebook.com/groups/287352465463/ :) Good luck!
I want to learn it but i don't think hurdy gurdy is not yet available in Philippines 😂 Btw great advice!
If you would be interested in ours, we ship worldwide :) The basic one is around $1800, you can check it out here: ancestore.eu/en_US/p/Hurdy-Gurdy-Saphona/54?currency=USD
I loved the video and it will help me when I get mine ;) French accent x'D
I play guitar and want to play hurdy gurdy it’s so cool but idk how I’d learn on youtube
New here, recently discovered Guilhem Desq music and Andrey V. (Sorry forgot how to spell his surname) fell in love with hurdy gurdy music. Used to play piano, guitar, tin whistles, and recorder. Where does one get a good instrument to begin with?
What I'm scaring (or afraid) about is that I taken the electric (or electronic) option... and to be honest, I don't know if I made the good choice, because I want to play it, like the medieval musicians, without electricity, too... as free... After more than 1 month to have paid, is it again time not to take that option... ?
I hope to have made the good choice... if not, i feel so scaring... I've paid by Ancestore.pl and Helvetion you're in relationship with them... So, I ask you for that...
I see this is 4 years old but i still hope i can get some help.
I been thinking of getting a hurdy-gurdy for 3-4 years now but the price always scared me and how i might not be good at it and it would be a waste of money.
So i would love some help whit just finding a good, cheaper then 3000 euros and pretty hurdy-gurdy.
Also this would be my first instrument and i don't have a way to get help since there is no one on my city or country probably who has even heard of this.
Thank you
How did it end up going?
Pozdrowienia. Po akceńcie i imieniu od razu wiem że jesteś Polką, przynajmniej tak myśle
Jestem! :)
Michalina Malisz wiedzałem, bardzo lubię twój kanał😉
11:29 kmac is that you?
Any consideration for a Windhand cover?
Cześć, gdzie można kupić sobie taką lirę, jakieś sklepy to oferują czy tylko u lutników?
Hej, w większości przypadków można zamówić przez kontakt bezpośrednio z lutnikiem, chociaż akurat ja z mężem prowadzę warsztat i sklep lirowy, gdzie można zamówić online: ancestore.eu/en_US/c/Hurdy-Gurdy/41/1/full :)
Never played anything, and probably not gonna learn playing hurdy gurdy either, so building it to play itself. It's anyway more about building it than playing it.
Tocas muy bien y estas muy hermosa
you are so lovely
I think it always takes a few months longer than it should take, because there's always a waiting list for good instruments.
do you have any ideas for what resources I might use if I can't find a teacher which seems like will be the case as I'm in Ohio USA
First thing I'd recommend is joining the two fb groups I posted in the description, there's a lot of resources/tutorials created by professionals and it's easy to search for them + you can always ask the community. Everybody there is willing to help. :)
Where in Ohio are you? I am near Athens, Ohio and I've just ordered a Hurdy Gurdy from Ancestore.
@@martidolata9579 I'm in Tallmadge which is in between Kent and Akron
@@frankandrews2108 join Hurdy Gurdy community facebook group
Hey buddy it shows that your vraiment francais.👍🙄 C est cool quesque tu fair,
Мехайлина звідки ти родом?
Польша
Ok, maybe the hurdy gurdy is not for me lol
I'll stick to guitar :3
Why do ALL Gurdy players "Unconsciously" fiddle with their strings? At 7:38, you picked up one melody string and moved it. LOL WHY?
I just picked one up. This model thing for about 50€ from Ugears, since this is the first instrument I'm learning, after drums and singing that is i wouldn't want to purchase a good one for 1000€+ to maybe get a feel for it or not. I play for 2 days on the cheap hurdy gurdy now and I'm getting quiet confortable, even though it sound... not good. Would you advice to buy 'a real one' as soon as possible to prevent bad habits or to get a better feel for the tones since mine sound rather... not so good.
Only a few lifetimes.
Preliminary steps: save up AT LEAST $2000. That's the main reason I haven't bought one.
A BRAZILIAN
You are too beautiful for me to maintain my concentration