helped me much more than the Schulter videos on their Jolly trim. I was trying to decide to mount first or during tile install. think I will lay out metal first now and cut tiles to fit in my retrofit install... Hi from California!
So... I did try this. But I screwed it up. I found the trim line kept moving. I've also seen so many videos saying "go like the wind!" and I panicked I think. After my first mess up I've learnt a lot. Next time as a total novice I play to screw a vertical batten and push the trim to that so there is no way it can be pushed over the line I drew. I don't know if this is considered normal, but gives me that security the trim won't budge. Unless there is a reason I shouldn't do this?... I also noticed as I went up the trim, the tiles towards the ceiling would sit flush with the trim depth, and the lower wasn't due to the wall not being straight. So I presume I should add enough adhesive to have each tile to be the same depth as the trim? God loves a trier though, right? :D
@@muffinbubbleThanks for this. I’m about to do two showers this week and will be very careful about the level of the walls because they rarely are! I’m thinking I’ll install the trim first and let it set, then tile to the trim.
Best video I’ve seen so far. Thank you, all the way from the states. I’ll be tiling my second kitchen myself and want a beautiful, clean tile trim finish.
Very nice, a small piece of quarter round wood painted or stained also works well if you find that the tile you already installed doesn't have an edge and has dried.
Great idea to set the horizontal trim and then slide it into place and on the vertical to plum it straight and then tile toward the cut end.. can't wait to apply these tips on my next diy. Thanks!!
This trim works fine on a horizontal subway tile install. Im doing a herringbone pattern currently and am thinking once i get to the top its going to be a challenge making sure all my cuts line up perfectly since the trim piece has maybe a millimeter lip to help hide imperfections. Might have to silicone inbetween this transition or another solution if this trim doesnt look tidy.
Putting the trim first, you said you could come back to it tomorrow, with a thin skim coat in the drywall next to the trim, does this mean fresh mortar will stick to already dried mortar no problem? Or do you need to clean all that off if you want to pick up again the next day? Thank you. very helpful video.
I’ve done it both ways and have defaulted to leaving a small grout line because the chances of having even a slight difference in one or more tiles is likely. A 1/32” difference is impossible to see in a grout line, but can be seen if tiles aren’t absolutely perfect when no grout line. Schulter trims have a bump out to maintain a consistent grout line, which I prefer. Just one less thing to think about.
What about if you have a corner to tile round and you want to have a trim between the 2. An outside 90° corner. What side would you put the trim on first?
are you simply relying on the overlapping tile to hold the trim in place with it's adjacent adhesion, since the edge of the tile nor trim have wall adhesion behind it? Good 'nuff?
@@icawnAs you tile and go up, the wall thin set gets added. And there is no chemical adheration with metal or plastic trim, it's a mechanical bond, so the thin set goes through those holes in the trim and behind it a little period so it's bonded plenty good enough. and then you can use a wedge to wedge it in or out, depending on how bad the wall is. As you go up, that works perfectly.
@@Participant616if you’re doing a full tile shower and don’t own a mitre saw…there’s a problem. You hand cutting all your firring studs and the custom built niche? Homeowners should not do EVERYTHING themselves.
@theeighthduff4349 the guy literally says in the video, make sure the tiles are tight up against the trim... where between tight and right up against do the spacers go ffs
helped me much more than the Schulter videos on their Jolly trim. I was trying to decide to mount first or during tile install. think I will lay out metal first now and cut tiles to fit in my retrofit install... Hi from California!
Exactly what I was after. Not found a video explaining it so well. Due to do my bathroom this week. Thanks!
So... I did try this. But I screwed it up. I found the trim line kept moving. I've also seen so many videos saying "go like the wind!" and I panicked I think. After my first mess up I've learnt a lot. Next time as a total novice I play to screw a vertical batten and push the trim to that so there is no way it can be pushed over the line I drew. I don't know if this is considered normal, but gives me that security the trim won't budge. Unless there is a reason I shouldn't do this?... I also noticed as I went up the trim, the tiles towards the ceiling would sit flush with the trim depth, and the lower wasn't due to the wall not being straight. So I presume I should add enough adhesive to have each tile to be the same depth as the trim? God loves a trier though, right? :D
@@muffinbubbleThanks for this. I’m about to do two showers this week and will be very careful about the level of the walls because they rarely are! I’m thinking I’ll install the trim first and let it set, then tile to the trim.
Very good explanation!!! This is what I really was looking for. Thank you for such a clear explanation!!!
It's a pleasure Alexa. Glad you found the video useful.
Same here . Very simple . I'll try it.😂😂
Best video I’ve seen so far. Thank you, all the way from the states. I’ll be tiling my second kitchen myself and want a beautiful, clean tile trim finish.
The best tile instruction videos are here.
Very nice, a small piece of quarter round wood painted or stained also works well if you find that the tile you already installed doesn't have an edge and has dried.
Good tip
Great video of how to do it. Nice explanation and high quality content.
From Kansas in the USA, great video. Exactly what I needed to see and hear. Thank you.
I'd sit the angle trim on a strip of wood in order the hold it when cutting it with the mitre block. Well explained video !
Great idea to set the horizontal trim and then slide it into place and on the vertical to plum it straight and then tile toward the cut end.. can't wait to apply these tips on my next diy. Thanks!!
Outstanding video, much appreciated, thanks.
thank you. clear and to the point. appreciate the time and effort in making this. 👊
Super, exactly what I wanted to know about. Thank you. ⭐️
Thank you! Very helpful
Excellent tutorial very helpful
Instant idea on how Im going to do my tile trim. Thank you sir!
That’s given me the right idea , thank you
This trim works fine on a horizontal subway tile install. Im doing a herringbone pattern currently and am thinking once i get to the top its going to be a challenge making sure all my cuts line up perfectly since the trim piece has maybe a millimeter lip to help hide imperfections. Might have to silicone inbetween this transition or another solution if this trim doesnt look tidy.
Very useful - thanks !
Always great presentations
Putting the trim first, you said you could come back to it tomorrow, with a thin skim coat in the drywall next to the trim, does this mean fresh mortar will stick to already dried mortar no problem? Or do you need to clean all that off if you want to pick up again the next day? Thank you. very helpful video.
Great video. Thanks!
Question… Do you have a video that shows how to deal with an OUTSIDE corner (tile to drywall)?
simply the best, thank you Sir!
Amazing video. Thank you
Thank you. Eazy and to the point.
Can you add the trim after the tile has already been installed?
Would you caulk where the tile meets the trim?
Excellent, thanks. Now I know how to finish my edges.
Wow very nice n clear
All that i needed!
Thought you should leave a gap between tile and trim for grout?
I was wondering about that too
You don’t have to. The gap is too small to grout usually. And it looks better without it.
If the gap is small enough you don't need it
@@usmc2msu213big enough 4 dirt and grime though
I’ve done it both ways and have defaulted to leaving a small grout line because the chances of having even a slight difference in one or more tiles is likely. A 1/32” difference is impossible to see in a grout line, but can be seen if tiles aren’t absolutely perfect when no grout line.
Schulter trims have a bump out to maintain a consistent grout line, which I prefer. Just one less thing to think about.
What happened to the rounded off edge tiles, do they still make them?
thanks mate
The trim should be level of tile or slightly above the height of the tile?
Do you tank the shower?
What type of adhesive/thinset are you using in this video?
The wrong kind 😂
What about external corners?
When I first started my career in construction you could buy one and two round edged tiles.
You can still buy bullnose tile but not common anymore. I just found some at HD.
What about if you have a corner to tile round and you want to have a trim between the 2. An outside 90° corner. What side would you put the trim on first?
afaik there's special corner trim pieces as well.
It looks like cement board backing, but no waterproof coating on it. In North America cement board absorbs water. Possibly UK boards are waterproof?
You do not need to waterproof cement board.
no back butter? no membrane?
Back butter or its boot
I make level and plum lines and then blue tape My trim up and then start tiling.
are you simply relying on the overlapping tile to hold the trim in place with it's adjacent adhesion, since the edge of the tile nor trim have wall adhesion behind it? Good 'nuff?
@@icawnAs you tile and go up, the wall thin set gets added. And there is no chemical adheration with metal or plastic trim, it's a mechanical bond, so the thin set goes through those holes in the trim and behind it a little period so it's bonded plenty good enough. and then you can use a wedge to wedge it in or out, depending on how bad the wall is. As you go up, that works perfectly.
@@BonBon770 Yes but how does it do that if the blue tape is blocking the trim holes?
@@Participant616 You take the blue tape off as you tile up the wall.
that top row is being held in by the trim, need more thinset
I am tiling now at the moment I hate it I would rather down a couple of pints but my wife will crack my nuts
Let's hope not! Hope the tiling went well. Feel free to share the results!
@@tilewarehouse2022 it turned out great thanks
Patience is the key both tile and wife..😂😂😂😂😂
i find a chop saw with a aluminum blade makes perfect cuts. Clean no files needed.
Sounds great but a mitre saw is several hundred £? Hardly worth it if it's just to cut a few trim pieces.
In other words, he’s showing the homeowners way to do it with minimal investment in equipment .
@@Participant616if you’re doing a full tile shower and don’t own a mitre saw…there’s a problem. You hand cutting all your firring studs and the custom built niche? Homeowners should not do EVERYTHING themselves.
@@grimrecords19 I've used a speed square / framing square and a circular (skill) saw.
Nice job sir thanks for sharing ❤❤
Tip is to NOT push trim against tiles! Youll end up with part grouted and part not!
Isn't that what the tile spacers are there to prevent?
I guess you are referring to using a spacer between the tile and the trim!?
@theeighthduff4349 the guy literally says in the video, make sure the tiles are tight up against the trim... where between tight and right up against do the spacers go ffs
@steves1460 yes steve just means you don't get uneven grout lines and no risk of grout falling out where it's to thin
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I read tile adhesive is a big no-no in showers. It can’t withstand moisture. Use mortar. That’s what I’ve read anyway.
Maybe read something else.
You didn’t set the tile properly….at all….;
You made verticals tile lines, yet didn’t move the tile horizontally, to set it properly….
All wall tiles have a rounded bullnose edge. Most plastic and metal edges aren't installed correctly at the corners and look awful.
What's your point Cluso?
Bullnose tile is expensive. This is an alternative. Much more affordable.
Sissi use glove
Ok, good video, but I bloody hate trims, look so naf. Border tiles, mitre, or even the factory edge of the tiles…but not a trim please.
You’d rather have a brown ceramic edge than a trim? Each to his own!
@@awinbisa yes, personal.