This is reminding me a lot of 'Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns' (and yes, I had to spent 15 mins googling to remember what the name of that was). The two main gimmicks to that game were towns had limited slots with you requiring different combinations of buildings to unlock different units, and you could customize your squads with a couple of support units attached to them. Underrated game imo.
Well, it looks really cool. I would have never known it existed if you weren't making a video on it Darren, so thank you! Early access has me a bit worried as always though.
Northgard, by Shiro before they did Dune, was also Early access and it's had constant updates for the last 5 years (1 year in early access, with lots of updates). Don't be worried. Join the discord and contribute to the game balancing!
Been playing this game and it is one of the most polished early access games I’ve ever played. When multiplayer hits I’m introducing my friends to this game!
I'm very satisfied with the game. Only thing lacking would be the Emperor. Maybe like an event or message, similar to the Landsraad function, I guess. Glad of the inclusion of the Landsraad too, all the previous Dune games didn't.
This is the kind of video that I like seeing from the channel. Presentation and analysis of an upcoming strategy game by someone who plays strategy games and enjoys role-playing.
I am really loving this game. The RTS part is what I needed to dive into a 4x. The game feels unique and just fun to play. I can’t wait for multiplayer! When when when?!
Thanks for the video. I liked the UI and art direction. Interesting mechanics also. I will be following the development of the game. Thank you for covering it.
So glad you reviewed this! I can't wait. The original Omega game was the first RTS I ever played and loved. Can't wait to get this. I've used your link.
Looks like it could be a real gem. Fitting title/IP for the genre, since the game that invented the RTS genre was a Dune game (the first PC RTS from the 1980s)
i expected nothing and was positively surprised. A really good complex game with a great choice of scale. And that everything is realtime is a much needed change for these kind of games.
@RepublicOfPlay, would you say that the military skirmishes are underpowered? Should they be boosted strength, or double the unit count with half costs? Should capture time be lessened? I've read other reviews that say the other facets of the game make the battles futile for pursuing victory.
Oh I didn’t feel that way at all. I played two full campaigns all the way through. As the Harkonens I played with an aggressive military, and I won the game largely by capturing towns. As the Fremen, I tried to win with Hegemony by building lots of Water, but I lost to Atriedes who won through political victory. I came close though, given a bit more time I wouldve won. So I honestly dont think I can say whats working for balance in terms of battles. They felt good to me, and I felt I had plenty of units to manage. I loved the back and forth I had where we were throwing units at eachother draining our economies. I’d push and gain a few territories and then lose others. To me thay was pretty great, and what I’d aim for if I was designing the game.
@@RepublicOfPlay thanks for the answer! I'm planning on checking it out tomorrow! Really appreciate your deep dive rather than just an overview review!
There are atomics, you can call them down on a territory to insta-kill things. Its sort of a one-time move though, it kills your standing in the Landsraad
I can no longer build spice plantations, tea factories and many buildings in enbesa in anno 1800 they are closed. do you know the reason? If you do, please tell me
they could have been some of kind of neutral faction but i think the problem is the game will need several playable factions on release and more in DLCs.
Only at ~7 minutes so far but... the Fremen pay taxes to the Emperor? I'm not super knowledgeable about the Dune universe but I didn't think the Fremen gave a spice worm's tuckus about the Emperor?
Spacing guild was not allowed to mine spice in the books cause then they would control the universe. Bene Gesserit were seen as witches and not trusted. Emperor itself could not control Arrakis since the whole of Landsraad would declare war on House Corino if he did that. Tleilaxu nobody trusted and they were not one of the great houses. Smugglers though were a faction in books that mined and fought on Arrakis.
In the game the Fremen are actually paying spice bribes to the Spacing Guild, which makes sense with what the book says about the Fremen bribing the spacing guild to prevent orbital observation of how the Fremen were ecologically changing the planet.
Is the game really demanding ? I have: win 10 I5 4690K 3.50 GHz 16 Ram EVGA GTX 1650 SC ULTRA GDDR6 The game is starting to grow on me, so im a lttle curios if the game will run fine in my PC
I had a review planned but its so late now I’m just moving on. My PC broke the day before it came out and then I got covid the week after. I played a lot on stream and talked about it but I’ll just wait for Immortal Empires at this point before doing a video.
Kynes was the leader of the Fremen before Stilgar (arguably) was in the book/movie. (Stilgar was mainly the leader of a single very important Sietch, not all of the Fremen).
@@TheRealXartaX Yes but the new movie is the most popular material right now. This isn't something new, if i say "lord of the rings" you think about the movie trilogy and not the animated movie that came out decades earlier.
I did purchase it. Kinda waste of money tbh. Not alot of game there. With VERRY little units. And there is little replayabilty. And as a bit of personal opinion, i found the landraat mechanic tedious.
It looks interesting although I'm a bit apprehensive because I consider Northgard a failure as it relies heavily on AI cheats and the gameplay itself is too simplistic.
Go play open dune 2. That game is light years better Than this. I have it, and i absolutely recommend not to buy. Its realy not That good looking, the game play is boring and absolute flat. About 30 minutes and it becomes less Than boring.
@@benmcgarry1354 I played everything. I have all the books also. Emperor was the most innovative back the days. But Westwood was collapsing in decadence. They didn't have the resources to achieve the whole thing. Now with abundant resources and they bring us this... Game... Now that's really... Bad.
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This is reminding me a lot of 'Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns' (and yes, I had to spent 15 mins googling to remember what the name of that was). The two main gimmicks to that game were towns had limited slots with you requiring different combinations of buildings to unlock different units, and you could customize your squads with a couple of support units attached to them. Underrated game imo.
Too bad it doesn't have Kohan's great squad building and hero units. But yeah, the city management definitely looks similar.
Oooo, i remember that game! What a gem it was!
Kohan was great!
Well, it looks really cool. I would have never known it existed if you weren't making a video on it Darren, so thank you! Early access has me a bit worried as always though.
Northgard, by Shiro before they did Dune, was also Early access and it's had constant updates for the last 5 years (1 year in early access, with lots of updates). Don't be worried. Join the discord and contribute to the game balancing!
Been playing this game and it is one of the most polished early access games I’ve ever played. When multiplayer hits I’m introducing my friends to this game!
@@Shatoswolfdemon Agree, super polished.
11:25 so cool that you did that sneaky attack at night 👍
I'm very satisfied with the game. Only thing lacking would be the Emperor. Maybe like an event or message, similar to the Landsraad function, I guess. Glad of the inclusion of the Landsraad too, all the previous Dune games didn't.
This is the kind of video that I like seeing from the channel. Presentation and analysis of an upcoming strategy game by someone who plays strategy games and enjoys role-playing.
I am really loving this game. The RTS part is what I needed to dive into a 4x.
The game feels unique and just fun to play.
I can’t wait for multiplayer! When when when?!
Thanks for the video. I liked the UI and art direction. Interesting mechanics also. I will be following the development of the game. Thank you for covering it.
How big should we make the Baron?
*Yes*
I’m literally listening to the Dune Audiobook perfect timing
Great video, as usual. After Northgard I'm quite confident Shiro Games can deliver a unique RTS but sadly, current combat does look quite stiff.
6:50 Carthag? I see what you did there.
Hope to see more of this game on this channel! I can't wait to play this.
Wow this is an epic video, I clicked the link wow
Hey Darren, Awesome video! Can't wait to see how Dune: Spice Wars develops over time, but it certainly looks promising. Keep up the great work :)
Decent UI and lovely review once again. The real time aspect of the game is really interesting compared to other 4x games.
So glad you reviewed this! I can't wait. The original Omega game was the first RTS I ever played and loved. Can't wait to get this. I've used your link.
Great video. Looks like a really interesting game, hope to see more.
Looks like it could be a real gem. Fitting title/IP for the genre, since the game that invented the RTS genre was a Dune game (the first PC RTS from the 1980s)
Game looks good, will keep an eye on its development
Brilliant game
I greatly enjoyed this, thanks for bringing my attention to this game.
Was hoping for House Ordos from the Westwood games
same, simply changing the name of the 'smugglers' would have that effect. Maybe it just wasn't worth the copyright issues though
Perhaps in dlc or not
@@brandonvortex995 northgard had many DLC factions, so Ordos is pretty likely if they keep that business model up.
while we are waiting for part 2 of dune the movie, we might as well play the game
Well detailed and explained review!
i expected nothing and was positively surprised. A really good complex game with a great choice of scale. And that everything is realtime is a much needed change for these kind of games.
Looks cool
I played Dune 2000 on the PS1 as a child. This is surreal.
@RepublicOfPlay, would you say that the military skirmishes are underpowered? Should they be boosted strength, or double the unit count with half costs? Should capture time be lessened? I've read other reviews that say the other facets of the game make the battles futile for pursuing victory.
Oh I didn’t feel that way at all. I played two full campaigns all the way through. As the Harkonens I played with an aggressive military, and I won the game largely by capturing towns.
As the Fremen, I tried to win with Hegemony by building lots of Water, but I lost to Atriedes who won through political victory. I came close though, given a bit more time I wouldve won.
So I honestly dont think I can say whats working for balance in terms of battles. They felt good to me, and I felt I had plenty of units to manage. I loved the back and forth I had where we were throwing units at eachother draining our economies. I’d push and gain a few territories and then lose others. To me thay was pretty great, and what I’d aim for if I was designing the game.
@@RepublicOfPlay thanks for the answer! I'm planning on checking it out tomorrow! Really appreciate your deep dive rather than just an overview review!
Will there be atomics? Lasgun vs shields?
There are atomics, you can call them down on a territory to insta-kill things. Its sort of a one-time move though, it kills your standing in the Landsraad
I can no longer build spice plantations, tea factories and many buildings in enbesa in anno 1800 they are closed. do you know the reason? If you do, please tell me
This is the kind of "sponsored" videos I believe are healthy to your UA-cam channel ✌🏻😉
Really hope we get a full story campaign like it says in the Early access Blurb.
I think as far as lore goes, the smugglers as a faction feels very strange. Might've been better as house corrino
Well smugglers are part of the dune books so its not far fetched.
they could have been some of kind of neutral faction but i think the problem is the game will need several playable factions on release and more in DLCs.
Great read on, great game.
You for sure have my interest what a great overview!
What, no mechanic for giving birth to the space messiah?
Just curious how many games you've actually finished/won? Thank you enjoyed this content.
I’ve completed and won 4 games with each faction, and just one with the new faction corrino, but I didnt win it.
Only at ~7 minutes so far but... the Fremen pay taxes to the Emperor? I'm not super knowledgeable about the Dune universe but I didn't think the Fremen gave a spice worm's tuckus about the Emperor?
Perhaps some creative liberties had to be taken for balancing. I suppose you don't need to care about the emperor if you're being threatened/extorted.
They have the same mechanic, but instead of paying “Tax” to “The Imperium” they pay a “Bribe” to the “Spacing Guild.”
@@RepublicOfPlay Aaaahhh. Helps the immersion a bit =P
@@RepublicOfPlay paying a bribe to the guild is very cannon as well
I have actualy already bought the game and dropped it after an hour. I didnt know though that the AI is so great i will definetly pick it up again!
> You can be engaged in a fight elsewhere and look back at the exactly wrong moment
And that's why I don't play real time strategy games.
reminds me of northgard, 4x rts
it's literally is dunegard.
few hours in, having a lot of fun. Very promising game.
YES!
It's weird to me that smugglers are a faction... why not the emporer, bene gesserit, or bene tleilax instead? Maybe the spacing guild?
This still looks SO GOOD though
Spacing guild was not allowed to mine spice in the books cause then they would control the universe. Bene Gesserit were seen as witches and not trusted. Emperor itself could not control Arrakis since the whole of Landsraad would declare war on House Corino if he did that. Tleilaxu nobody trusted and they were not one of the great houses. Smugglers though were a faction in books that mined and fought on Arrakis.
they could all be factions. in their last game the business model was based around selling new factions
Wait the Fremen and Smugglers also pay the imperial tax?
They pay a Bribe to the Spacing Guild (same mechanic, but lore appropriate naming)
Cool!
Why the hell the Fremen would want to pay to House corrino for the spice? Even harvest it? D:
In the game the Fremen are actually paying spice bribes to the Spacing Guild, which makes sense with what the book says about the Fremen bribing the spacing guild to prevent orbital observation of how the Fremen were ecologically changing the planet.
@@kevinellenburg4305 I see, so in game, playing Fremen, is full Choam and nothing on stockpile, then?
Thank you for your answer!
They have the same mechanic as paying Spice Tax to the Imperium, but for them, its called paying a Bribe to the Spacing Guild.
Is the game really demanding ?
I have:
win 10
I5 4690K 3.50 GHz
16 Ram
EVGA GTX 1650 SC ULTRA GDDR6
The game is starting to grow on me, so im a lttle curios if the game will run fine in my PC
Well you are above minimum requirements but under recommended for CPU and GPU.
thanks
Why do the freiman have to pay a spice tax? If someone knows why I would love to hear it.
They pay a bribe to the spacing guild
Not "Peter" just P I Ter with "I" 😂
Where is house ordos?
they might get added later.
Huh, no House Ordos, I'm both pleased and disappointed.
I clicked it
How comes you haven't covered warhammer 3 yet?
I had a review planned but its so late now I’m just moving on. My PC broke the day before it came out and then I got covid the week after. I played a lot on stream and talked about it but I’ll just wait for Immortal Empires at this point before doing a video.
Why is Kines a black woman? Why is he(?) the leader of the fremen instead of stilgar?
The developers said because of the movie.
cuz we wuz freedom fighters n sheeit
Kynes was the leader of the Fremen before Stilgar (arguably) was in the book/movie. (Stilgar was mainly the leader of a single very important Sietch, not all of the Fremen).
@@RepublicOfPlay In all material except the 2020 film he's a white dude lol.
@@TheRealXartaX Yes but the new movie is the most popular material right now.
This isn't something new, if i say "lord of the rings" you think about the movie trilogy and not the animated movie that came out decades earlier.
I did purchase it. Kinda waste of money tbh. Not alot of game there.
With VERRY little units. And there is little replayabilty. And as a bit
of personal opinion, i found the landraat mechanic tedious.
Honestly this look like Northgard reskin.
dunegard.
It looks interesting although I'm a bit apprehensive because I consider Northgard a failure as it relies heavily on AI cheats and the gameplay itself is too simplistic.
it should have MP within 6 months before the proper release. most people play NG for the MP. and yeah the AI is dumb and relies on cheating.
@@JewTube001 Yeah I'm sure Northgard is okay for MP, but I'm just not interested in that. I'd rather play other games for MP.
But every strategy is PvP based, not just playing against the ai
@@retineyzer7906 That's extremely not true, lol.
Check the game Steam Page:
See Funcom:
Banish the game to the shadow realm:
Go play open dune 2.
That game is light years better Than this. I have it, and i absolutely recommend not to buy. Its realy not That good looking, the game play is boring and absolute flat. About 30 minutes and it becomes less Than boring.
So grindy and doesn't look fun at all
The initial ad read was cringe.
This game is a degrade for all genre and Dune Saga...
bruh
did you play dune 2000
@@benmcgarry1354 I played everything. I have all the books also. Emperor was the most innovative back the days. But Westwood was collapsing in decadence.
They didn't have the resources to achieve the whole thing.
Now with abundant resources and they bring us this... Game...
Now that's really... Bad.