5 Watches That Aren’t as Good as They Say | Tissot, Rolex, Tudor & More

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  • These are 5 watches that aren’t as good as they say. It’s not that they’re bad, nowhere near-more that people get a bit carried away.
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  • @watchfinder
    @watchfinder  Рік тому +17

    We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder

    • @drebarthelotte5712
      @drebarthelotte5712 Рік тому +3

      I'm a barber and hairdresser and I caught the hair aswell. But I'd grab my razor and cut the edge on the sides.pre hair lube so my razor works properly.
      Top down right next to his ears.
      Cooling products are good mixed with spray.

  • @xtrvette4412
    @xtrvette4412 Рік тому +251

    Andrew woke up today, saw his haircut, and chose violence! I love it 😂

    • @gerardog182
      @gerardog182 Рік тому +4

      For a guy who operates a business around luxury watches, getting a £5 haircut was a terrible idea, I would be quite mad too 😂. Great videos by WF&co, by the way.
      But Nico is far worse, such a terrible presentation on a guy that roasts watches for poor styling and taste 🤮

    • @pkmurf7
      @pkmurf7 Рік тому +1

      That haircut though 🤪

    • @mohamadlawand265
      @mohamadlawand265 11 місяців тому +1

      😂😂

    • @lordcharfield4529
      @lordcharfield4529 8 місяців тому +1

      @@gerardog182Trust me. It’s not his haircut, it’s the way his hair sits at that length!

    • @Pianoman999
      @Pianoman999 6 місяців тому

      😂😂

  • @jbyrne4531
    @jbyrne4531 Рік тому +32

    As Andrew says "I wont name names..", there was barely a second that passed where likely most of those watching immediately thought to themselves "Ah! Nico. He means Nico."

    • @gerardog182
      @gerardog182 Рік тому +6

      I think he's referring to Teddy Baldassarre 😮

    • @andoletube
      @andoletube Рік тому +6

      Or he was just referring to himself.

    • @gerardog182
      @gerardog182 11 місяців тому

      @@daniellehotsky1776 I agree, he is my favorite youtuber when it comes to watches. My point was that I think he's one the guys WF&Co were referring to. No need from them to throw shade at others in the business, just stick to your thing and let others succeed as well.

  • @mrnonews
    @mrnonews Рік тому +14

    The no. 1 would be RM. It has its purpose to transfer wealth, but to actually wear it just feels cheap.

  • @ph8077
    @ph8077 Рік тому +18

    There are plenty of people in South London who'd "lay down _someone else's_ life for a Rolex!"

  • @garethpearce5266
    @garethpearce5266 11 місяців тому +40

    Having collected watches for around fifteen years, and having owned several Omegas, a few IWC, Tudors, Baume Mercier, CW, Breitling, Seiko etc, etc, I put myself on the list for the BB58 (Navy) back in 2020. Some time later, my time came. I remember being surprisingly underwhelmed. The aluminium bezel simply didn’t have that glossy sparkle of my old Seamaster’s bezel. The blue was…blue! Not Rolex ‘I am so blue Smurfs think I need to tone it down a bit’ blue, but blue. The bracelet was nice, but not extraordinary. It was a very good watch, very nice. And yet, it has barely left my wrist in the last three (ish) years. Not only is it the best watch I’ve ever owned - for comfort, timekeeping and style - it’s my favourite watch of all time. Overhyped, yes. But entirely deserving, in my view, of the hype. Its charm comes at you in waves. It’s stealthy. What I’m basically saying, Andrew, is I agree with almost everything you say about it, and yet I want to fight you for daring to speak ill of it! 😂 Therefore, let’s agree to agree (disagree to disagree).
    Yay, 58. 🎉

  • @msk3905
    @msk3905 9 місяців тому +6

    So you say the Tissot’s fit and finish is not that great for its $750 USD price tag, I’ve seen one in person and started my engineering career as manufacturing engineer where the first company machined precision medical tools. Exactly what fit and finish do you see as subpar and for this price point who has a better product? I’m no watch expert but I have to say I was pretty impressed at what you get for this kind of money not to mention the face is beautiful? Not looking to start and argument but trying to understand your comments and what brand has better value? I’ve also seen watches that cost 4+ times this watch of comparable quality.

  • @casperselka671
    @casperselka671 Рік тому +94

    I have a Tissot prx quartz. My first proper watch that I bought with my first paycheque. It’s even better than I hoped. Sparkles in the sun looks expensive feels really comfortable and is incredibly robust without looking it. Honestly I wouldn’t change it and would recommend it to anyone.

    • @KevinRibelMusic
      @KevinRibelMusic Рік тому +21

      And that's all that matter at the end of the day, enjoy it!

    • @PogU_4Life
      @PogU_4Life Рік тому +2

      I use one to wipe my butt

    • @heydude1643
      @heydude1643 Рік тому +6

      @@PogU_4Lifedoubt it.

    • @PapriceP
      @PapriceP Рік тому +1

      Pffft Tissot? I'm on the list for a Grubel Forsey.

    • @reesebroekhoven3962
      @reesebroekhoven3962 Рік тому +1

      @@PapriceP very nice proudly enjoy it when the time comes

  • @MrYutbe57
    @MrYutbe57 9 місяців тому +14

    I just got the PRX 35 MOP in. It's beautiful. It's nice. It's proportional. The aftermarket support is great. But it's exactly what I expected quality wise.

  • @GoBoT-ow9kn
    @GoBoT-ow9kn 11 місяців тому +44

    I bought a BB58 as my first "luxury" watch. Looking at pictures, I was in love. First putting it on, I was rather disappointed. I couldn't put it into words why. After two weeks of daily wear, I fell in love. The smaller size, the overall finish made me fall in love with it. Definitely one of my forever watches. Just the perfect all around watch.

    • @EricBishard
      @EricBishard 11 місяців тому

      Hmm, not me. I'm still in love with my BlackBay 58. Never spent a lot of time looking at it in pictures. In fact, I was looking at other watches from Tudor, Longines, and Omega. But when I slipped on the BB58. It felt right. I may not have the experience you do though, but yeah, I feel the only watch in this lineup that one could not feel bad about is the BB58. YOu know what your getting. Right?

    • @luissafar7007
      @luissafar7007 5 місяців тому

      I got myself the Tudor Pelagos 39 and I am extremely happy with it. The ceramic bezel really makes the difference.

  • @kutark
    @kutark Рік тому +106

    I'm so glad someone said this. The PRX is nice, but I'm getting more and more convinced people are hyping it even more because they sell those brands.

    • @adamtaintbury
      @adamtaintbury Рік тому +3

      No one mentions how similar it looks to an Oysterquartz.

    • @Dasspapirfly
      @Dasspapirfly Рік тому +9

      @@BonnieDoon84 It's a good watch for the price but, man, am I sick of seeing PRX posts. It's quickly become the Zubat of online watch communities.

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 Рік тому +1

      @@DasspapirflyI had to look up Zubat. Now I get what you mean.

    • @JDYTC
      @JDYTC Рік тому +5

      Of course all luxury watches are “hype” or just marketed as someone else could say just as well. They are overpriced to make a profit and still payout decent salaries and marketing costs, etc. Of course there are different levels of being overpriced. A Rolex is obviously more overpriced than a Tudor or Tissot is, but not more than a pair of Nikes or Ray-Bans, I guess. In the end it is all in the eye of the beholder and there is no accounting for it 🤷‍♂️ However, people ranting about overpriced Tissots or Tudors while wearing a Nike sweater or 150 dollar sneakers or sunglasses for example, do not realize how hilariously hypocrite they look 🤡

    • @25wins1
      @25wins1 Рік тому +7

      I love my prx

  • @THE.RATGOD
    @THE.RATGOD Рік тому +85

    The prx is just super good on wrist, fun to wear with no worries ( especially the quartz ones - gorgeous dials), it s a dream beater and a no brainer.

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog Рік тому +2

      Nope, it’s pants. Nothing fantastic about it.

    • @TheMonsterHunterTV
      @TheMonsterHunterTV Рік тому

      Not even the best at this pricepoint. Just a waste of money

    • @slipnpitch1894
      @slipnpitch1894 Рік тому +4

      ​@@alfieakaronaldoghow many likes you got going there with that comment?..

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 11 місяців тому

      @@slipnpitch1894 Truth Hurts lol 😂

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 11 місяців тому +3

      @@slipnpitch1894 Hey look, I apologise.
      My comment was harsh to the OP.
      I am a Tissot fanboy truth be known.
      Just sick of all the disingenuous hype around certain models (of any brand).
      Fantastic if people actually love them, or even just enjoy them.
      Just keep it real people 😎

  • @MrYutbe57
    @MrYutbe57 Рік тому +103

    And I gotta disagree about the BB58. As I've become a dad and in my 30s the gilt BB58 is just perfect. I think the gilt in interesting and so versatile I'm more amazed how often it fits in everywhere. It isn't a dive watch that is forced into Elegance. It just is. I'd actually same the same but moreso for the BB58 Bronze. The explorer indices and the Aluminum-Bronze makes the patina interesting instead of gross. When polished its gorgeous. When patinas its distinguished. I'd say the 54 is the one that isn't as great as they say it is. Something about the white bezel throws it off BIG TIME. I don't thinknits the size change.

    • @mathijswouter3301
      @mathijswouter3301 Рік тому +1

      I don't agree with you. I am a big fan of watches and the only reason I haven't gotten these type of expensive ones is just because I earn so little

    • @matteoschilcher9957
      @matteoschilcher9957 Рік тому

      it isn't making investments that is the problem. Its finding a reliable platform. I am a fan of watches and cars and I haven't been able to get any. Funny right?

    • @thiagosarmento3613
      @thiagosarmento3613 Рік тому

      Watches aren't my thing but it wouldn't be bad getting one 😅. Most of my investments hardly give me returns. I had to start trading

    • @IvanAlejandro-
      @IvanAlejandro- Рік тому

      How can I reach him

    • @buhlerfabii2784
      @buhlerfabii2784 Рік тому

      I've read numerous success stories of people that are pulling off tremendous gains of up to $120k within weeks in this crazy market and I just want to learn how to achieve such figures.

  • @malav308
    @malav308 Рік тому +32

    I dont agree with what was said about Tissot PRX. The integrated band was not mentioned, which is really impressive for the price point.

    • @roubenkhosrovian
      @roubenkhosrovian Рік тому +1

      I like prx, if I had money I'd buy it. But I acknowledge the escapement is made out of plastic; not silicon, plastic. And the quartz version has misaligned hands more often than I thought.
      Thing is, the service cost isn't crazy high and they replace the entire escapement. So I wouldn't worry about it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @TheMonsterHunterTV
      @TheMonsterHunterTV Рік тому

      Lot of brokies will say the prx is great but it isn't even the best watch at it's pricepoint.

    • @malav308
      @malav308 Рік тому +2

      @TheMonsterHunterTV Again. Not the point which I was trying to make. Nonetheless I don't expect everyone to understand my perspective.

    • @patrickcho791
      @patrickcho791 Рік тому

      The integrated band is uncomfortable and is difficult to change out

    • @galacticgames4418
      @galacticgames4418 Рік тому

      It feels incredibly cheep. Rather a Hamilton at the same price point

  • @Juanjo191
    @Juanjo191 Рік тому +15

    I believe that any watch and any brand in any industry that says “not everyone that has the money can buy our products” is overrated. When they’re like “we are making you a favor selling you this watch (or whatever it is Ferrari 🙊)” they’re way too hyped

    • @robertjohnson9971
      @robertjohnson9971 11 місяців тому +3

      Only Rolex make actually selling you a watch seem like doing you a favour.

    • @jr4chargers
      @jr4chargers 11 місяців тому

      @@robertjohnson9971 Meh 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @robertjohnson9971
      @robertjohnson9971 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jr4chargers Thanks for that fascinating insight. And I don't want a charger of any description.

    • @jr4chargers
      @jr4chargers 11 місяців тому

      @@robertjohnson9971 Meh pt.2 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @stevestojan
    @stevestojan 10 місяців тому +35

    The PRX bracelet is so good, it’s worth the price alone. I can’t speak for the quartz, as I have the powermatic, but assume it’s the same. It punches waaaay above its weight. It’s truly an excellent bracelet. But for the price? It’s unreal.

  • @chartreuse1356
    @chartreuse1356 Рік тому +76

    I agree about the Nautilus. I just don't get it. I understand the appeal of a sports watch since most people dress petty casual these days and a dress watch might look out of place but the Nautilus is just way over hyped. I imagine a bunch of silicon valley types with a lot of money and they want a watch but know nothing about watches. They read somewhere that Patek is considered one of the best so they start looking at Patek. They all look too dressy so they settle on the Nautilus.

    • @MrYutbe57
      @MrYutbe57 Рік тому +2

      The Chopard Alpine Eagle in my opinion strikes all the notes the Nautilus and AP do with a damn near grand seiko dial while still that integrated sports bracelet look with the Roman numeral indicis. It's perfect.

    • @RobertTaylor-ub6hv
      @RobertTaylor-ub6hv Рік тому +2

      Until you have a 5990 or even 5980 on your wrist you don’t know what you don’t know. For the record I’ll never be able to have one either.

    • @highflyventures-qg8ef
      @highflyventures-qg8ef Рік тому +4

      The Nautilus has a nice dial but it sits very weird on the wrist. And the clasp is a pain in the a** Didn't like it...

    • @lancehatch4475
      @lancehatch4475 Рік тому +14

      I worked for a Patek Philippe AD about 12 years ago. Well before the hype started. There was far more interest in the Calatrava at the time. The Nautilus was considered an odd ball. It was too dressy to be a sports watch but not dressy enough to be a dress watch. Back then you had to be a real watch nerd to get it. Then Instagram happened and it became a flex.

    • @marzbar393
      @marzbar393 Рік тому +3

      also its not that good looking they elephant ears makes it even more uglyier

  • @MasterOfNone88
    @MasterOfNone88 Рік тому +12

    I tried to go the smaller brand route with Maen. but the fact that with smaller brands you have "Pre-order" or the watch is "coming soon" or "Out of Stock"...its getting really annoying. so I got the Tissot PRS Powermatic and I was extremely satisfied with my purchase. its my new daily and I love it.

    • @craigriley9892
      @craigriley9892 7 місяців тому

      I ordered a watch last year. It'll be ready by mid 2027. I'll be a grandfather by then and I have no kids

    • @EVSTravels
      @EVSTravels 7 місяців тому +1

      My PRX is amazing. Wear it a couple times a week. No regrets

  • @derekeboyd
    @derekeboyd Рік тому +11

    I love my BB58, but it just doesn't have the hero status of my Speedmaster Professional. Of course, the crystal doesn't fog on the BB58 on a rainy day so in my collection, it stays.

    • @Questron7
      @Questron7 Рік тому +6

      The Speedmaster is a tool that never went out of production and you buy into its history while still looking forward. The Blackbay however is just a piece of retro, harking back to the good old days and leaning on tradition it in reality does not have. It just looks nice just like the New Beetle did when it came out but is was simply not the original VW Kafer. The BB will never look forward, never create its own history. If you want that, then go for a Pelagos. In 70 years there will be a reissue of the Pelagos, never of a 2018 BB

    • @Caledfryn
      @Caledfryn Рік тому +3

      As the owner of a 3861 Speedy, a BB58 and a 1954 Beetle, this post is spot on 🤣
      That said, I do love the BB58 as it just hits the sweet spot in so many ways - especially the size.

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 Рік тому +1

      the crystal fogs on your speedmaster??

    • @Caledfryn
      @Caledfryn Рік тому

      @@omar10213245 Nope! Never get it wet though. Sounds like you may have got some moisture in there.

    • @Caledfryn
      @Caledfryn Рік тому

      @@Questron7 Great observation. But I suppose the BB58 is the ultimate homage watch🤣

  • @novon101
    @novon101 Рік тому +83

    They are not "that" good but you recommended almost all of them at one point or another.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee Рік тому +7

      Nothing's perfect. You can get value for money out of something that isn't the ultimate ne plus ultra. Tissot is the Nissan of watches, and that's fine.

    • @wintermute8315
      @wintermute8315 Рік тому

      Seriously, he flogs shit to you to push his wares, then drops more shit like this once the stock has sold, to sour you on it and move you ontp the next thing.
      Just a shill.

    • @BLMed1a
      @BLMed1a Рік тому +1

      Don’t change the message of the content
      These watches are good ( probably besides the swatch ) and he directly say that in the video, but he claims every single one of these pieces is probably over praised so when you get them, they might disappoint you

    • @waffle911
      @waffle911 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@JinKee would probably liken the whole Swatch group to VW Group and the range of cars and brands spanning "great" to "meh" for all sorts of different reasons.

    • @peepboon
      @peepboon Рік тому +4

      Jumping on the bandwagon to hype up the watches but contradicting it later down the line to boost views.

  • @chiguy750
    @chiguy750 Рік тому +28

    You can’t wear an expensive watch while out and about in the major cities, so I picked the PRX80 Ice Blue for a substitute. It looks good enough and if it gets snatched, I’m not out that much.

    • @halfsourlizard9319
      @halfsourlizard9319 Рік тому

      I feel sorry for people like you. Buy insurance, wear your watch with abandon, and enjoy life ... also, don't buy watches you can't afford to replace.

    • @ivantomic4084
      @ivantomic4084 Рік тому +17

      You might consider moving to some normal country mate

    • @xfortysd40
      @xfortysd40 Рік тому +4

      No problem where I live.

    • @adamtaintbury
      @adamtaintbury Рік тому +2

      People rob each other for sneakers that cost less than that watch.

    • @mavx4
      @mavx4 Рік тому

      Huh? It isn't a problem where I live. I think it is just your country mate.

  • @hocly22
    @hocly22 Рік тому +14

    Just got the 35mm PRX powermatic in blue dial. Amazing watch, dial and proportion for the money. And I owned a VC 3rd gen in blue i sold it, wore too large on my wrist, never got the chance to buy before putting deposit down in sydney).
    The 35mm PRX auto is one of the best watches you can buy under 1k AUD period.

    • @Klingonmastr
      @Klingonmastr Рік тому

      While the PRX is a nice looking watch I agree that some people might find it a bit plain or uninspiring. The Tissot Gentlemen has a similar aesthetic. I'm really glad they made a 35MM version of the PRX with the powermatic 80 movement but given the choice I would rather buy something else.

  • @hansenluu
    @hansenluu Рік тому +11

    PRX Powermatic 80 and BB58 Navy are the best entry luxury watches.
    BB58 can be wore during the week and PRX on the weekend.
    80 and 70 power reserved.
    ~11mm thickness
    40-39mm size.

    • @joerichardson6107
      @joerichardson6107 4 місяці тому

      Is $600 entry level luxury?

    • @naj_z
      @naj_z 3 місяці тому

      @@joerichardson6107 yes

  • @STEVEARABIA1
    @STEVEARABIA1 Рік тому +8

    The moonswatch does truly look like a cheap watch you’d get for a kid as their first. $40 tops.

    • @halfsourlizard9319
      @halfsourlizard9319 Рік тому +2

      It's cheaper than dinner out and all kinds of plasticky fun.

  • @mikesomerset6338
    @mikesomerset6338 Рік тому +5

    To me the shape of the Nautilus always reminds me of the "quartic" steering wheel from an Austin Allegro.

  • @Jessejesselewis
    @Jessejesselewis Рік тому +16

    I had an opposite reaction to the Blancpain. I had the chance to see the 50 Fathoms last week and it’s great. I was curious about the watch but it was better in person.

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 Рік тому +4

      blancpain is *kisses fingertips* i especially loved their aqua lung leman series, God those watches were beautiful

    • @realalexmackenzie
      @realalexmackenzie Рік тому +1

      100% agree! I've tried it on multiple times and it is definitely near the top of my to acquire list. I've thought of sending my SD43 on to a new home and use the freed up funds to acquire the FF, and maybe another Panerai with the difference between the two dive watches.

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 Рік тому

      @@realalexmackenzieWhich Panerai you have and which one would you add to your collection?

  • @rjblue42
    @rjblue42 Рік тому +10

    Love that you mentioned Dornbluth. Such a fantastic brand!

  • @IPAHOMEBREWER
    @IPAHOMEBREWER 11 місяців тому +10

    The BB58, as you highlight, is a jack of all trades, which is why I purchased the 925 sterling silver version as you see far fewer of them than the others. Overall, I think the 58 is an amazing watch and will hold mine for life.

  • @teruphoto
    @teruphoto Рік тому +78

    The Nautilus is the epitome of Clout overriding all other considerations. It's 100% hype over substance.
    Also: call me crazy but it seems there's no love lost between Watchfinder and the MoonSwatch 😅

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 Рік тому +3

      Somehow, I don’t think Andrew is going to be selling many second hand MoonSwatches…😊

    • @cdaack
      @cdaack 11 місяців тому

      When I found out that the Nautilus borrowed its design from Mido’s Multifort TV from the 70s, I vowed to never buy one and instead I’m thinking of getting the newly released Big Date from Mido.

    • @badondorlathong185
      @badondorlathong185 11 місяців тому

      ​@@cdaackki vo

  • @tbone121974
    @tbone121974 Рік тому +3

    I disagree with you about the PRX. I have the powermatic 80 with a blue waffle dial. For the money it's very well finished. The movement is a cracker keeping decent time. A deviation of +5 to - 2 seconds a day is very decent. It has flexibility in terms of attire. It's just at home with smart casual wear or accompanying a suit.
    The only minor complaint is the lume is below par. Otherwise it does everything else rather well.

  • @ofb7212
    @ofb7212 Рік тому +3

    What other $500 sports watch compares to the PRX. None that I know of. You need to spend twice that to get a significantly better watch with an intergrated bracelet. The way it plays with the light is amazing at the price point.

  • @schruppe_7779
    @schruppe_7779 Рік тому +5

    The love the 35 mm Tissot PRX, but the movement should be way better and not made to be thrown away.

  • @thegirthquake8574
    @thegirthquake8574 9 місяців тому +4

    Admittedly, I got my mint green prx for less than $200 thanks to a gift card so I'm in love with it. And my moonswatch pluto is really nice on a leather strap.

  • @DionStabber
    @DionStabber Рік тому +40

    Definitely agree. I have yet to meet anyone who doesn't think the Nautilus is ugly. Even someone I know who was proudly announcing that he'd joined the waitlist (good luck).

    • @user-to9lk8ix6h
      @user-to9lk8ix6h Рік тому +2

      Who wouldn’t want to wear a Maxi pad on their wrist?

    • @pauln0371
      @pauln0371 Рік тому

      Not to mention the Pin and Collar bracelet???? WTF...

    • @adisamma
      @adisamma Рік тому +3

      If you guys could afford it you probably would have a different perspective

    • @letspsychology5240
      @letspsychology5240 Рік тому +1

      It looks like a cyberman off of doctor who.
      Still I kinda like it though.

    • @garybenson2280
      @garybenson2280 Рік тому +5

      @@adisamma
      So many superior luxury steel sports watches for far less money. VC overseas, Al Odysseus, GP laureato to name a few

  • @garybliss5673
    @garybliss5673 Рік тому +1

    Andrew --
    This is a very constructive and thoughtful commentary.
    Professionally i am a micro-economist (albeit in vastly different market, defense, than watches) and as you can imagine, the various gyrations of strategies and pricing in this market is of endless interest.
    From a consumer perspective, watches are rather different from cars or washing machines in many respects but economically they are since the functional attributes -- telling the time and a tolerable environmental robustness in-use -- are almost completely divorced from their pricing; i would say that only in Chinese homages in the $200 to $500 range is there any correspondence to those factors.
    No consumers buy other things: a piece of art on their wrists is a huge one, but wealth and taste "signalling" are also important and, in some cases, there is store-of-value effect too. For example in my business i've been told a reason to get a Rolex is that it may guarantee you a last airplane seat out of a third world capital during coup. It has happened, i am sure. Another major cost factor is availability of after-sales service/parts, which is remarkably expensive for firms to provide (although consumers commonly complain of the costs, firms say -- with some legitimacy i suspect -- that such work is a money-loser for them).
    My punch line is that a companion piece to this video would be your thoughts on the economics of the business from a consumer perspective. The bottom-line should be: consumers must prioritize their desires and pay only for those options that address them. Each of the offerings in the market are making a very different value proposition to their buyers. That Tissot PRX may not be the most elegantly made watch (as you rightly point out) but, compared to many of its price competitors it offers rather compelling long-term serviceability availability at reasonable prices (like, for example, Seiko or Citizen also). "Yes" those Chinese homages can be well-made with more attractive dials, cases and bracelets for the same price as Tissots or Seikos, but essentially no after-sales service. Etc.
    i natter on; forgive me.
    -- gary ray

    • @frankhujsa821
      @frankhujsa821 5 місяців тому

      From a fellow economist, in regards to your comment: “consumers must prioritize their desires and pay only for those options that address them”. No matter how often economists assume that this is true, or rely on it being true when applying models, I’m afraid that this isn’t how people behave in reality. There is no microeconomic model or quantitative framework that can accurately explain the economics of the luxury watch market, especially at the extremes of price. As you noted, watch prices are disconnected from performance attributes and from input costs. Scarcity cannot explain price extremes either. Perhaps behavioral economists could shed some light on the issue, but they lack models and the ability to prove anything.
      Auction theory might help with the six figure and up extremes. Perhaps the scarcity (real or manufactured) and emotional associations with particular watches simulate unit-level auction mechanics in each transaction. Still can’t explain the PRX.
      It’s a fascinating field for economists because it seems impenetrable with our tools. It’s like a Rubik’s cube but with stickers that change color.

  • @LegalKimchi
    @LegalKimchi Рік тому +1

    You have a video where the tissot prx and the patek phillipe nautilus are both mentioned and it feels so right.

  • @khaagos
    @khaagos Рік тому +5

    You're right! Any Rolex is just... Too mainstream now

    • @chrismills2089
      @chrismills2089 Рік тому

      Now? Rolex has been synonymous with watch for as long as I can remember.

  • @michaeltabone7085
    @michaeltabone7085 Рік тому +2

    All watches. Every watch isn’t what it’s hyped up to be. We are all enthusiasts for an item that we hyped up greater than it actually is. From a Timex to a AP, they aren’t the anything we promote them to be.

  • @59thfsaviation79
    @59thfsaviation79 Рік тому +1

    Finally got to hold a Moonswatch in NYC. In my hometown, there's no dealers. I don't get it. Why would someone pay 250 for that? I could see maybe 50 bucks for it for fund. They had 6 models available. I tried one on. it felt silly. I'm not a snob, but I don't get the love of these. I do have the PRX automatic in blue. Got it on sale. It's a great deal.

  • @Klingonmastr
    @Klingonmastr Рік тому +5

    Definitely agree with what he said about the Tissot PRX. While Tissot does make many great watches including the PRX, Gentlemen, and Seastar they all have their own little faults. I really want to love the PRX 80 but no sure if I would buy one. I'm glad they made a 35MM version though as the 40MM one was too big for people with small wrists.

    • @deepankdevate2183
      @deepankdevate2183 9 місяців тому +2

      What are some of the faults again?

    • @patrik3450
      @patrik3450 9 місяців тому

      @@deepankdevate2183I think it’s because it’s plastic and silicon?
      Still these Tissot are amazing. Unrivaled in their price range

    • @renehernandez6905
      @renehernandez6905 8 місяців тому +1

      The lume,very cool otherwise

  • @gius4real415
    @gius4real415 Рік тому +1

    What's the name of the watch mentioned at 4:59? I can't seem to get it.

  • @zendt66
    @zendt66 4 місяці тому

    I've been interested in getting an automatic watch for many years. I've had my Tissot Powermatic PRX 80 35 now for about five days and glad about finally pulling the trigger. I've worn my Citizen Eco Drive Titanium now for about fifteen years so a modest upgrade was due. No watch snob here, just wanted an entry level automatic. Cheers!

  • @roflagain1
    @roflagain1 11 місяців тому +2

    I agree on the Tissot. I tried it on and was not impressed. In fact, a little surprised how cheap it felt.

  • @sofyankh82
    @sofyankh82 Рік тому +1

    Great episode, I have PRX and and I bought it a few months ago, because I like it some how and everybody talks about it after months of purchasing it. I really found my Tissot gentleman Powermatic, 80 far far better. Now I am planning to buy Black-bay 58 and I really love your comment about it.Hhhhhhhhh I feel it really will not let me down as you said.

  • @RiadAFathali-vn6nj
    @RiadAFathali-vn6nj 10 місяців тому +2

    I've had a moonswatch for about a year and other than a scratch on the crystal, it has been great. Very cool to wear and an excellent convo starter.

    • @darkki94
      @darkki94 9 місяців тому

      It would be dead in the first 1-2 days on my wrist , plastic case and no WR.

    • @abcxyz7529
      @abcxyz7529 8 місяців тому

      You can get the exact same conversation material by wearing a bright pink Dora the Explorer digital watch. It has better build quality, and is not trying to be a toy Omega.

  • @Rhal63
    @Rhal63 Рік тому +1

    What’s with RM. How do they justify the price? I just don’t get it. Especially the rubber bands for straps. Thanks Andrew

  • @allanreardon
    @allanreardon Рік тому +1

    Ive got two of these, the Moonswatch and the PRX. The Moonswatch is a watch i said i wouldnt buy but did eventually buy the Mars one recently for a bit of fun. The PRX is a watch that i have a like/meh thing going with...sometimes I like it, sometimes I wonder what all the hype is about. I very much doubt it's a keeper one day but then tje next i see the sun catching the bracelet.

  • @JonRanwell1966
    @JonRanwell1966 11 місяців тому +7

    I love my PRX Powermatic. Great looking and the finish is worthy of something a lot more expensive. Managed to buy it abroad for just 500 Euros too!

  • @glenh4971
    @glenh4971 Рік тому +8

    I do like the Tudor Black Bay. The others I can live without.

  • @jamieparker4010
    @jamieparker4010 Рік тому +11

    Love the PRX, agree on the Nautilus...i tried one on and it did feel like it was worth £40,000 (at the time) and a friend wanted one until he found it was too small on the wrist (spent less on a full gold Royal Oak that is great)

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive Рік тому +1

      too small on the wrist -doubt it. This potato watches fad needs to stop

    • @jamieparker4010
      @jamieparker4010 Рік тому

      @@Cortesevasive 37mm on a wrist like a 2x4

  • @dannyg6592
    @dannyg6592 11 місяців тому +2

    Agree with you on the Moonswatch and the Nautilus, but completely disagree with you on the PRX, the BB58 and Rolex.

  • @rover213
    @rover213 Рік тому

    I am curious of what you think of the Escudo watch...

  • @AlexBrunnenberger-tn7nq
    @AlexBrunnenberger-tn7nq 2 дні тому

    Sorry but the Tissot PRX Quarz is crazy good for the price tag. I own Rolex, Omega, Seiko… bought the PRX as a cheap holiday watch. But after one week I felt in love with it. What a great watch. Gym, Pool, Dinner, Beach…no issues.

  • @MrYutbe57
    @MrYutbe57 Рік тому

    That fabric strap on that BB58 is awesome!!! Where is that from?

  • @NicholasSadlier
    @NicholasSadlier Рік тому +2

    The Nautilus looks like something Fred Flintstone would wear.

  • @spazz27
    @spazz27 Рік тому +8

    So so true about the Nautilus

  • @corail53
    @corail53 Рік тому +5

    I mean you made an entire video on the tissot prx praising it.

    • @halfsourlizard9319
      @halfsourlizard9319 Рік тому +1

      It's almost like they make clickbait vids ... and don't care about having a consistent perspective / point of view.

  • @comeonman7423
    @comeonman7423 Рік тому +2

    As amazing as the PRX 40 is, the flat profile and large lug to lug is just too big for most people’s wrists. The 35 is too small I think they need a 37/38 mm.

  • @johnburrow4124
    @johnburrow4124 Рік тому +24

    Agreed with nearly every example here. I tried on the new Pelagos 39 the other day, and it just didn’t feel special. I then tried on the Longines Legend Diver, and my eyes lit up. Sure, it may not have the clout or spec sheet omg factor. But, it is a stunning piece.
    I’m sort of being drawn into cheaper watches these days anyway. Can enjoy them without babying them too much.

    • @italianstallion3130
      @italianstallion3130 Рік тому +8

      Exactly right about Longines compared to Tudor. I listen to these people rave about Tudor and then you handle one side by side with a Longines or Oris (never mind a grand seiko or Omega in same cases) and I just can’t work it out- why are people paying more for Tudors? You could fall asleep looking through a Tudor catalog- you wear a legend diver and i challenge you not to look down at your wrist every 15-20 minutes

    • @Grek1574
      @Grek1574 Рік тому +2

      Yooooo, that Longines are really really good ❤

    • @DanSchrimpsher
      @DanSchrimpsher Рік тому +1

      Longine legend is very nice I may get one one day

    • @jose7777777777777777
      @jose7777777777777777 Рік тому +4

      This may sound a bit ridiculous but my Pelagos not feeling special is somewhat of a plus. I don’t mind scratches, it’s not shiny so it doesn’t grab attention, it’s extremely durable, and for the 6 years I’ve had it it hasn’t missed a beat. It’s a watch that you appreciate when you use it for a long time

    • @italianstallion3130
      @italianstallion3130 Рік тому +1

      @@jose7777777777777777 that’s fair- and honestly I get the Pelagos more than I get the black bays - but it’s still expensive. But wear what you like and if you love it then who cares what anybody else thinks

  • @kriskravt3428
    @kriskravt3428 Рік тому +2

    Haven't seen anything more beautiful than PRX with mother of pearl dial for the same price. If there is something let me know

  • @vasiliykulev5880
    @vasiliykulev5880 Рік тому +2

    The one brand that I don't get the hype for is Mido. It's like the entire online watch community woke up one morning sometime last year and collectively decided that it's the best value out there.
    Not that they're bad watches, but my god - the designs are an absolute snoozefest. At least 90% of their lineup is a mall-brand level of boring, with maybe a few exceptions like the Commander 1959.
    I guess I just don't get the value proposition and the positioning within Swatch- it kinda exists in a limbo somewhere between Certina, Tissot, and Hamilton. However, unlike those three, it barely has any identity. Like, I'll go to Certina for a great diver, to Tissot for nice vintage-inspired or dressy piece, and to Hamilton for, well, the Khaki. Not to mention a ton of other great brands available at a similar price point.

    • @DanSchrimpsher
      @DanSchrimpsher Рік тому

      I have the mido compression diver gmt and I really like it. It looks odd to people with the compression scale and it's good water resistance. But I don't really like traditional (Submariner) divers so that's just me

  • @jakenasz3428
    @jakenasz3428 Рік тому

    what do you think about the Tissot Seastar?

  • @moose99moose
    @moose99moose 11 місяців тому

    Great video, and I agree with the principle you describe. Just yesterday I got to try a Nautilus and an Overseas for the first time (just being nosey; not even close to that level). The VC was fabulous, especially the bracelet. The Patek was exactly as you describe - thin and disappointing, like gruel.
    I’ll happily stick to my AquaTerra in blue. Unless anyone has a blue Overseas going cheap? 🤣

  • @darioscomicschool1111
    @darioscomicschool1111 9 місяців тому +1

    2:32 THE PRX NEEDS A NEW TIMESTAMP!

  • @stanislas4990
    @stanislas4990 Рік тому +2

    A watch is not good because you don't like the style of the watch, or any other personal reason.
    Sometimes the hype is exaggerated, but a Tissot PRX is a nice watch for its price. Same for the MoonSwatch, it's a Swatch, so obviously it's not a luxury watch, neither a watch that you will keep forever. But for its price it's perfect, so nice that you want to have many of them.
    I never had the chance to see a Nautilus 5711 in person, so I can't say if it looks great, or if it's disappointing.
    The Black Bay 58 is great, but I don't like it enough to buy it. May be I am wrong, it's just a matter of personal taste.

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland Рік тому +1

    Good topic this... I've sold 4 great watches and have ended up with just a G shock while I try again to find the "perfect" watch.... the trick is to find what YOU love, without following hype (which is how I ended up buying and selling a few Speedies and an IWC Mark 16).... figure out what YOU love... even if it's a Hublot 😅
    P.s. Great point about rolex. I've decided not to get one. There are more gems to find with JLC, Zenith, older Omega and many others, for less money
    And the Black Bay is duuuuuull (to me anyway)

  • @victordominguez8362
    @victordominguez8362 Рік тому

    Hello
    I would like that you talk more about TAG or Zenith....
    I'd like to see your opinion on watches of both brands.
    Regards

  • @zytoses9223
    @zytoses9223 9 місяців тому +1

    My mate has a rolex and he let me take a look at it as i'd never held or looked at one. It was definately a nicely made watch with a smooth movement but I couldn't help but think, yep this is a watch and it tells the same time as my seiko...nice.
    It may have been the model he had in particular that just wasn't attractive to me but I've always imagined a rolex to be an almighty tool of time of the greatest quality and design ever, but holding the thing it just felt and looked like any other watch. I can't imagine actually getting one now. (Even though I can't afford it)

  • @reesebroekhoven3962
    @reesebroekhoven3962 Рік тому +1

    You forgot to mention that the 5711 was one of the designs AP tossed in the trash when deciding on the royal oak. So 2nd best was 1st best for Patek

  • @5islife
    @5islife 8 місяців тому

    Thank you, I’ve been saying this about the nautilus for years and you encapsulated it best 👊🏿

  • @nabsakif9570
    @nabsakif9570 11 місяців тому

    Tudor is the best value you can. The gmt pepsi i wear daily and can nvr tire. Though many prefers it to be smaller and thinner i feel its nice as is. Going for prolly omega seamaster next but haven't really gotten the feel of omega. What omega could change my mind?

  • @markojirasek
    @markojirasek Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. I love the way you express yourself 😊

  • @WatchUnwind
    @WatchUnwind Рік тому

    I love my prx but it definitely isn’t as sharp as a true luxury watch like omega or Rolex. A good way to compare brands between price points is look at 3-4similar watches if you line up a Tudor prx, Tudor Royal, zenith defy, and AP Royal oak you will see the differences

  • @artbanks27
    @artbanks27 Рік тому +3

    I still want to like the moonswatch but after owning one i very much prefer the concept of the moonswatch and what it represents than the product itself.

    • @halfsourlizard9319
      @halfsourlizard9319 Рік тому +1

      I own one + love it ... I think it's a matter of miscalibrated expectations: It's a cheap, plastic PoS ... It's fun ... What else did you expect? (But, that velcro strap it comes with *is* literal garbage -- it's probably the one stock strap that's worse than the tripe that Seiko put on their lower-end watches.)

    • @lndyrd
      @lndyrd Рік тому +2

      I have one and want to get them all. It's about the concept, the colors, the brilliant marketing and business strategy, and the planets that appeal to me. Not all watches have to be of supreme quality to be fun. Let's not forget it's a Swatch after all. (and Swatch bought Omega)

    • @halfsourlizard9319
      @halfsourlizard9319 Рік тому +1

      @@lndyrd There are people who take their watches too seriously ... and the MoonSwatch seems a pretty good way to reliably get them cranky, eh? 😉

  • @salmana4239
    @salmana4239 Рік тому +1

    Agree with you on Rolex and moonswatch and 5711.
    The 5711 is really flimzy and honestly don’t know what the hype is all about
    Don’t agree on PRX and BB58. Both these watches are amazing and good value.

  • @galil_6863
    @galil_6863 Рік тому +14

    The Lunar Pilot beats the Moon Swatch in every possible way

    • @schruppe_7779
      @schruppe_7779 Рік тому +1

      The Lunar Pilot also costs way more.
      But the Moonswatch still really sucks, it shouldn't cost anything over 100€

    • @aurora2k238
      @aurora2k238 Рік тому +1

      Yeah the moonswatch retail price is too much imo

    • @biggieders2648
      @biggieders2648 Рік тому

      Not really comparable watches

  • @rarts2000
    @rarts2000 Рік тому +5

    Rolex like a moonswatch, nailed it 😆

  • @lowkateng153
    @lowkateng153 Рік тому +4

    would love to get dornbluth one day

  • @GolfGuyReviews
    @GolfGuyReviews Рік тому +3

    I love my Gilt BB58, wore it today with jogger shorts and a t-shirt, and it looked awesome in the sun - the light really caught the golden edges of the hands - it's the first time I really appreciated that and it made me really happy I own it. Watching this video reminded me how underwhelmed I was with the blue steel version when I saw it in person...but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so if the watch makes you happy, that's all that matters.
    I've not got a huge watch collection, and I don't have a massive budget, but I like my BB58 as much as my black Hamilton Khaki Field, Hamilton Cooper and G-Shocks...and hopefully the couple of Studio Underdog's on order 👍

  • @exp2745
    @exp2745 Рік тому +7

    Since you mentioned the PRX, I am still hoping for your coverage of the Citizen Tsuyosa. That goes for a similar target market and is a great option at the price.

    • @CrashCarson14
      @CrashCarson14 Рік тому

      I like the look of it

    • @LawryBoyer
      @LawryBoyer Рік тому +2

      @@CrashCarson14looks like someone smashed the PRX and an OP homage together, imo the handset doesn’t work and feels derivative

  • @mostafaahmed9742
    @mostafaahmed9742 Рік тому

    Great video 👏👏👏 thanks for speaking what was killing me to say !!! All the examples you used is perfect study case 👍👍👍👌👌👌and I always ask myself same question am I the only one seeing this??? !!! 😅😅

  • @susanwang266
    @susanwang266 11 місяців тому +1

    I think Rolex's marketing is done so well, it epitomizes success to many. Similar to what Da Beers did with the diamond industry... Ie you should spend x amount of your salary on engagement ring. Or, how a diamond is forever...

  • @TheSaiyanKing
    @TheSaiyanKing Рік тому +3

    Me, looking at the title and seeing "Tudor": OH, NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!

  • @Luca-jx4fl
    @Luca-jx4fl Рік тому

    What is the watch brand mentioned at @4:59?

  • @gazz501
    @gazz501 Рік тому +1

    What is the brand he mentions at 5.00? My subtitling shows "Dawn Booth" which I'm quite sure is not a brand.
    As I have acquired and sold watches over time I have refined my own core taste so I have become less susceptible to hype. And though my eyes still occasionally stray my credit card is restrained.

  • @arancourt5623
    @arancourt5623 Рік тому

    I feel the need to point out that with all the macro footage of the Patek, either you need to clean your watches before filming, or Patek must have some terrible quality control, I'm seeing dust particles all over that dial and in the corners of the indices.

  • @gurmeetsinghkalsi
    @gurmeetsinghkalsi Рік тому

    Tell us in depth reviews of Favre Leuba watches, about the company etc .

  • @fs96jfj36
    @fs96jfj36 Рік тому

    Do a review of the G shock GWG1000, it's the world's toughest watch and it does some pretty amaizing stuff, even if you hate the brand as watch enthusiasts I believe it's a piece worth knowing about

  • @marcandreasson87
    @marcandreasson87 Рік тому +1

    I really enjoy your videos. Very informative and opened my eyes, heart and mind even further to the hype about Rolex .. couldn’t give a rats a..e About R. The 5711 a beautiful movement, isn’t worth the $
    If only you you could wear it face down and movement up then just use your mobile for the time. I almost bought a PRX Tiffany blue. I’m learning ! decided nah.
    My Tudor pick would be the opaline dial 1926. Excellent dissections.

  • @kosar193
    @kosar193 Рік тому

    5:13 your mention GS as an example along side of JLC is a bit to much for me this Sunday morning. 😊
    Otherwise great video!

  • @Hellsing92X
    @Hellsing92X 9 місяців тому

    I was originally going to buy the quartz prx but the waffle dial looked so good to me I had to get the auto.

  • @22fdominguez
    @22fdominguez 11 місяців тому

    I really liked the look of the Grand Seiko SBGM221G. When I finally had it on my wrist, I was quite disappointed. Nothing wrong with it really, but it felt too light and sort of cheap...

  • @robalexander7348
    @robalexander7348 Рік тому +1

    I own a number of quality watches, i must say that i do like my BB58 and BB 925 both are lovely watches on the wrist and Tudor are brilliant time keepers 👍 Au

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 Рік тому

      BB 925 destined to be a collector’s item.

    • @robalexander7348
      @robalexander7348 Рік тому +1

      @@eyeheartsushi2212 Yes it could one day, on the leather strap it's looks such quality 👍

  • @JustAboutTime
    @JustAboutTime Рік тому +1

    My Moonswatch picked up a mean scuff the other day just from me looking at it!

  • @lazio2011
    @lazio2011 Рік тому +7

    How no one talks about Eterna is beyond me, it's the most underrated, underappreciated, undervalued watch brand one the planet . If it wasn't for Eterna I really don't think there would be the same watch brands you see today because of the Eternas innovation of the automatic movement with what everyone knows now as the ETA movement . Ridiculous how Eterna get no respect at all .

  • @ProGoombaGaming
    @ProGoombaGaming 9 місяців тому

    Spot on commentary. Nice pull on the Dornblueth reference!

  • @Amplitudeproblem
    @Amplitudeproblem Рік тому +4

    Clickbait title, yes, but if you pay attention, Andrew is delivering nuance, not being black-or-white. It's nuance that can help those new to this ridiculous hobby manage expectations. I don't much enjoy "Worst Watches" videos but this one is both hilarious and contains wisdom if you just zoom out.

  • @horizonworks7553
    @horizonworks7553 9 місяців тому

    I kinda agree with the Tudor , The one i got was a Tudor Heritage S&G way back brand new . It was a great watch but its just boring . I love that its simple and its value for money but it doesnt scream character or represent the mood im in , it feels SAFE in a suit around people with suits ( if u get what i mean ? ) . In comparison , i feel more happier on my Omega Speedmaster Panda which i paid lesser on a 2nd hand market . If i were could choose either 1 , i would go for the Omega (?) rather than the Tudor .

  • @HollowKnight21
    @HollowKnight21 6 місяців тому

    Thank God somebody said it about the Nautilus. I saw that watch and wondered why it fetches much higher prices than the Vacheron Constantin Overseas. The latter is a much better watch in almost all aspects!

  • @quovadis1951
    @quovadis1951 Рік тому +2

    Im gonna call BS on the moons watch play-doh reference. The crystal scratches VERY easily, but the case is much more durable than you would imagine after listening to these videos. In fact, I can barely find any marks or scuffs on the case after wearing mine roughly two times a week since last year. Plus, the lack of polishing means whatever scratches do occur are very hard to see unlike with my stainless steel watches.

    • @talkingcup
      @talkingcup 11 місяців тому

      A lot of what he says about the Moonswatch is hyperbole. Don't really understand the need to dump so much hate on it. It's fine to not like it, but to endlessly bring it up makes it wearying.
      And him owning one does not really give him any more leverage over other owners other than the fact he has a platform to declare repeatedly the hate for the Moonswatch. He hates it, We get it. Can we move on now?