@beaurex4756 yeah and also the 2nd batteries are "backordered", so you're not even getting what's advertised at once. I'll give it till Sept 1st before I charge back the pre order deposit. If they do ship, it better have every single listed feature
@@beaurex4756 possibly rebranding under the "furious" label. Either way Im committed till Sept 1st. After that I go another route. I tried to keep my purchase local to Canada, but as time goes on it looks like China will get my money once again...
@@beaurex4756 I find them very responsive by phone. Email tends to take a few days sometimes. They also are always trying to work on that website. It definitely needs some serious help. I don't rep the company, they aren't perfect, I just like the bike.
@@delane013 I think they saw what was happening with Wired weight distribution on their bikes and chose to upgrade the racks hence the delay, but I am not sure.
Thanks for info and the breakdown. .. Can you do a pros and cons comparison with this and your Wired Freedom together sometime. Nothing too elaborate, since you already went over both. would like to see them together phsyically and see the difference.
The only reason why I didn't order it. I don't like the motor wire hanging on the bottom on the outside.🤷♂️ Besides that, it's a Beautiful bike have fun.🎉
The tires i switched out to shinko 244-3.00-16 motor cycle tires .my very 1st ride i got a tiny staple and boom flat right away i couldn't belive it so through them things away
You're right the front motor is for climbing. Example the hill i have to deal with one motor i can climb kick in the front motor pretty much doubles my hill climbing speed
I like the speed of the goat, but I like the idea of being able to pedal also. The Goat can climb any hill I have ever seen that's paved. I do like the offer of the dual batteries that Furious is offering right now. How is the headlight? Is it bright enough for safe night riding?
Not sure about the need for all wheel drive on a street machine like this one but could see it if it was an off-road bike. Thinking about this or the Billy goat V3. Leaning towards the Billy Goat.
I have a lot of hills and they’re steep so I love the dual after 30 miles of riding I can just shoot up no problem. I’m not going back to single motor ever. The Goat seems like a good bike but it’s not made for pedaling and I can’t stand not being able to adjust seat
It seems like a solid, good looking bike. I'm not a fan of how that headset looks tho. I could probably swap it out but my last bike had headset issues, so I'd rather not mess with it. Im also not positive I want dual motors. I don't want a super heavy bike
I have to say one of the things I dislike is the thin stem. It's awesome that it is adjustable, but it really picks up the bumps on the road. I didn't think I wanted dual motor either, but I am never going back to single motor again after this and I am never going back to a cadence sensor. The torque sensor changed me. I don't even want to ride my Wired Freedom anymore.
There is a crack on the rear rack on the right hand side. Do it come like that? I was looking at this one and their emx one-x. Was just waiting to see reviews to get in idea of the quality on these bike. Thanks for doing the video.
You have eagle eyes...I intend to make a follow-up. I was carrying about 8-10lbs, hit a large bump or something I think and it cracked...Furious will send me a new one for free in September when I get the upgraded/optional rear rack battery. It happened in the middle of filming so some shots are from a couple weeks back (no crack) and some are more recent (crack in rack).
Yeah 99.9% sure if you go to the US side you can order. They used to ship to US from Canada but now they have a NY based warehouse for US customers, so you have to make sure you're on the Furious site and then "buy in US".
Nice bike..but the cable management is kinda sloppy on a high end bike like this..the motor cable should of pass thru inside the frame to give it a cleaner look..oh btw that front motor is for hill climbing
The new models will have that cable inside the downtube (shipments in August and I think November). I agree on some of the other management, but they have this skinny stem where most bikes with cleaner wires would send the cabling through. Thanks!
Nice Mr J. One thing you didn't talk about, or perhaps I missed, was the ride. You did mention the shock wasn't adjustable and a bit stiff, but while riding, I didn't hear anything about the ride. Yes, so much to cover and things can be missed. I'm curious as to the camera you use??? I have an idea.
I think the ride is hard to describe. I find it really smooth for pavement, more so than my Wired, but I really don't think it's an off road type bike. I would give the rear shock a 6 or 7 out of 1O. Moreover, I think it's an enjoyable ride...like I really look forward to riding it over my others. It feels super nimble and I guess the word cruiser gets thrown around alot for a style of bike...but this one is a great cruiser for actually cruising. As I mentioned near the end, I think I would prefer a stiffer or thicker stem. It's an Akaso...I don't have the GoPro yet.
@@JUICERATINGS Fair enough, I'm betting with a little research there is an adjustable shock for the rear. As for cameras, quite seriously, I'd go Insta360 x3. I know the x4 recently came out, but I've heard of an overheating issue, which GoPro has had issues with for years. I have an X3 and the great thing is you really don't have to “aim it” much as it records 360 degrees. The angles/views are all done in post with their app, in which you can do all kinds of crazy stuff. I'm certainly not a pro, but maybe research it a bit. The X4 being the newest might mean the X3 (which I have) may be at a good price, don't know though. Just a thought that may be worth a look.
I own a Grizzly, a Wired Freedom, and just put a preorder deposit on this bike. I think, and hope this is the happy medium I've been looking for. Your thoughts?
I think the Grizzly is great as is the Goat V3. Both powerful bikes and obviously the Wired Freedom and Ecells all have similar speeds (with probably the Goat on top), but all of those bikes lack in one category or another when compared to the Furious EMX. Number one the Goat and Grizzly and very motorbike-like and not made for pedaling. No raising and lowering the seat. The Ecells and Wired are large bikes and I find the 20x4 the sweet spot for me. Lastly, none of them have the EMX torque sensor. THIS torque sensor is everything and a huge differentiator. I don't ride my Freedom anymore because I am always on this EMX, it's just so comfortable and fun to ride. I'm going to sell my Freedom, but it hit me, I don't know what I would buy that would be better or similar to the EMX. For me it's the perfect bike. A solid 8 out of 10. There are two mods that you will want (Larger Chain Ring and eventually change the tires) Super tall people or people who want to off road or throttle only, they should choose a different bike. For everyone one else, I am finding it hard not to recommend this bike and Im up to 2800 miles. I did crack the rack which is being replaced, video coming soon. But it's just the rack. Bike is great and fine.
I also dislike the thin stem as I feel the bumps in the bars and the speed is exact up to 32 mph and then gets off by 4 mph. Two minor drawbacks that takes away from it being a 10 out of 10. That, and I would love a bike that hits 42-44 mph, I top out at 37, but 99% that is fast enough. I almost never ride 37. I think there is always something on any bike to dislike. The things I dislike on this one are very minor (for me, could be major for others)
@@JUICERATINGS Agree with everything you said. I'm also a motorcycle rider, if I want to throttle a bike, I'll get on my Harley. On an ebike, I WANT to peddle, I want to get some exercise. Glad to hear you think this is a great medium between the Grizzley and other moped style ebikes, and the Wired Freedom. That is exactly what I am looking for. At 5.9 the Wired Freedom is a little tall for me, it's fine once you get going, but at stops I'm not comfortable on the bike unless i drop the seat down, then my legs aren't getting good extention, so I might as well get back on the Grizzley because it's easier to manage.
Yes I am 5'8". I don't find the Wired uncomfortable, but it's a different ride. Again, the EMX isn't perfect, but I don't think there is a bike on the market right now that matches it. I honestly don't know what I want my new second bike to be once I sell the Wired. Maybe the Juiced Jetcurrent Pro, but there is no rear suspension and not interested in folding. But it may be the closest to the EMX out there.
I thought the same thing. I also have a Wired Freedom and thought I didn't care about torque sensors either. Then I rode this bike. Basically, the dual motor just feels better, the power at acceleration is awesome and beats a rear hub bike, but the real advantage is it climbs hills like crazy. Once you factor in the torque sensor it's amazing. Just a fun bike, a great ride.
@@dheller777 I think I am going to sell mine too. I don't ride it anymore with this EMX. I am also 5'8". But I want a second one and the only 20"4" that is close to this one is the Goat, but I don't like the moped-style and I like to pedal.
@JUICERATINGS The Billy Goat V3 is in my short list also. I like the better top end speed in the 40s if I am driving with traffic. I do not like the moped style seat either. The police tend to pull more of them over in this area than a bike that looks more like a bike. The Billy Goat also has bettet front and reat turn signals, along with a much better headlight. That said, Furious is offering a second battery for $200, which came free with my Wired Freedom but cost a lot more on the Billy Goat. You can see why I am still trying to decide on which of these to purchase.
Yeah I do. I really like this bike. I have no regrets. I did get a crack in the rear rack and they are sending me a new one, but everything else is just so nice. I really don't want a moped or a cadence sensor so this bike beats anything I would buy right now. Things change fast. I think Furious may be working on a faster bike, but I think it's a long ways off. In the meantime I hit 37 pretty easily and have ridden this over 2500 miles this summer. Even though mine has the external wire (the new ones don't) I do not regret buying one of his demo bikes at all. I never thought I'd get tired of the Freedom.
There's some good info in this video, but it's too long by half! There's a lot of rambling. Also, you should consider using chapters, they're great for your audience but they're also great for you as a creator as they'll help you to focus, organize and streamline your content. You've got a good way of communicating, just need to tighten everything up. I hope you don't take this as a negative and I wish you luck with your chanell and that you're able to grow it to 50,00 subs or more!
Chapters are not showing in the video timeline. I think yiu need to change the first 2 entries from 0:00 Furious EMX Intro 1:35 Components to 00:00 Furious EMX Intro 01:35 Components
I just pre ordered for Nov. What kind of charger comes with this thing? I also got the rear battery version an wondering if I need to purchase another charger. Anybody know?
I do not know the kind, but it's a nice ventilated charger with fan. Feels very safe and nothing has overheated. I "think" he will send two chargers but you may want to ask. If he doesn't, I would definitely buy one so you have two chargers. I charge off my bike because of the hot in the summer and the cold in the winter. It doesn't work for me to charge on the bike.
It doesn't really ghost until 30ish MPH, which is pretty good. Plus the controller is set up to output more than standard bikes. I just put the chainring for more resistance it's not required.
I agree. I'd like 40-44 mph on a 20 inch. I don't need or want it faster. I think Furious is trying to make one. They sort of indicated they're trying to get the suspension and other details worked out so it's safe. I would keep an eye out. I would guess mid to late next year if they do it. The Aniokki pro Max is 20 inch and goes 40 plus, but I don't necessarily trust the brand.
I really appreciate the thoroughness of this review! Great job.
You bet. Thanks!! New update that I have promised weeks ago coming out shortly.
Patiently waiting for mine😊
Worth the wait
Me too, can't wait to get mine as well.
Waiting for my white one with the extra battery, making plans to ride some great trails in the black hills of South Dakota.
I would love to ride in SD
Preordered the white with the extra battery aswell. 😁
@@sharkdog111 I'm still waiting
waiting for the next video
Yall gotta check out the Reaper! 😮
I watched your video. Awesome. Great bike. I like to pedal so most of the moped style bikes aren’t my first choice.
I have one on order...in blue! Hope to see it soon.
It's so nice. Consider changing that chain ring.
Man you need to call the company fast and furious 😊😊
My pre order furious awd ultimate better be on par with this thing. Hope they ship soon.
I think you're gonna like it. I ride it way more than my other ebike.
@beaurex4756 yeah and also the 2nd batteries are "backordered", so you're not even getting what's advertised at once. I'll give it till Sept 1st before I charge back the pre order deposit. If they do ship, it better have every single listed feature
@@beaurex4756 possibly rebranding under the "furious" label. Either way Im committed till Sept 1st. After that I go another route. I tried to keep my purchase local to Canada, but as time goes on it looks like China will get my money once again...
@@beaurex4756 I find them very responsive by phone. Email tends to take a few days sometimes. They also are always trying to work on that website. It definitely needs some serious help. I don't rep the company, they aren't perfect, I just like the bike.
@@delane013 I think they saw what was happening with Wired weight distribution on their bikes and chose to upgrade the racks hence the delay, but I am not sure.
Thanks for info and the breakdown. .. Can you do a pros and cons comparison with this and your Wired Freedom together sometime. Nothing too elaborate, since you already went over both. would like to see them together phsyically and see the difference.
Absolutely. Thanks for watching.
The only reason why I didn't order it. I don't like the motor wire hanging on the bottom on the outside.🤷♂️
Besides that, it's a Beautiful bike have fun.🎉
They have that contained inside now on the new ones.
@@JUICERATINGS ❤️ thanks for the update!
The tires i switched out to shinko 244-3.00-16 motor cycle tires .my very 1st ride i got a tiny staple and boom flat right away i couldn't belive it so through them things away
Good to know. Tires are my next upgrade. Thanks
You're right the front motor is for climbing. Example the hill i have to deal with one motor i can climb kick in the front motor pretty much doubles my hill climbing speed
Oh wow...good to know. I thought of another use. I guess I could switch to front to let the rear cools down a bit on long rides.
I like the speed of the goat, but I like the idea of being able to pedal also. The Goat can climb any hill I have ever seen that's paved. I do like the offer of the dual batteries that Furious is offering right now. How is the headlight? Is it bright enough for safe night riding?
Eh. I have definitely ridden it at night with the stock light, but I prefer adding an aux light on the handlebars and using them both in tandem.
Not sure about the need for all wheel drive on a street machine like this one but could see it if it was an off-road bike. Thinking about this or the Billy goat V3. Leaning towards the Billy Goat.
I have a lot of hills and they’re steep so I love the dual after 30 miles of riding I can just shoot up no problem. I’m not going back to single motor ever. The Goat seems like a good bike but it’s not made for pedaling and I can’t stand not being able to adjust seat
What would you use to protect the chain from the rain if you ride it a lot in that type of weather? Thanks
Lampro is the best awesome owner. I got the Furious reaper.i think i may look into getting that 60 tooth sprocket was it hard to change out?
I actually thought the frame was too tough to do myself so I had my local bike shop do it. They were great.
It seems like a solid, good looking bike. I'm not a fan of how that headset looks tho. I could probably swap it out but my last bike had headset issues, so I'd rather not mess with it. Im also not positive I want dual motors. I don't want a super heavy bike
I have to say one of the things I dislike is the thin stem. It's awesome that it is adjustable, but it really picks up the bumps on the road. I didn't think I wanted dual motor either, but I am never going back to single motor again after this and I am never going back to a cadence sensor. The torque sensor changed me. I don't even want to ride my Wired Freedom anymore.
There is a crack on the rear rack on the right hand side. Do it come like that? I was looking at this one and their emx one-x. Was just waiting to see reviews to get in idea of the quality on these bike. Thanks for doing the video.
You have eagle eyes...I intend to make a follow-up. I was carrying about 8-10lbs, hit a large bump or something I think and it cracked...Furious will send me a new one for free in September when I get the upgraded/optional rear rack battery. It happened in the middle of filming so some shots are from a couple weeks back (no crack) and some are more recent (crack in rack).
Can't order in the states anymore. Will probably go with the Billy Goat v3 since I can't het this one.
Why can't you order in the states?
@JUICERATINGS I got a message saying it was unavailable when I used a link from a UA-cam video. If I use the website it let's me pre-order.
Yeah 99.9% sure if you go to the US side you can order. They used to ship to US from Canada but now they have a NY based warehouse for US customers, so you have to make sure you're on the Furious site and then "buy in US".
Nice bike..but the cable management is kinda sloppy on a high end bike like this..the motor cable should of pass thru inside the frame to give it a cleaner look..oh btw that front motor is for hill climbing
The new models will have that cable inside the downtube (shipments in August and I think November). I agree on some of the other management, but they have this skinny stem where most bikes with cleaner wires would send the cabling through. Thanks!
I want one
Nice Mr J.
One thing you didn't talk about, or perhaps I missed, was the ride. You did mention the shock wasn't adjustable and a bit stiff, but while riding, I didn't hear anything about the ride. Yes, so much to cover and things can be missed.
I'm curious as to the camera you use??? I have an idea.
I think the ride is hard to describe. I find it really smooth for pavement, more so than my Wired, but I really don't think it's an off road type bike. I would give the rear shock a 6 or 7 out of 1O. Moreover, I think it's an enjoyable ride...like I really look forward to riding it over my others. It feels super nimble and I guess the word cruiser gets thrown around alot for a style of bike...but this one is a great cruiser for actually cruising. As I mentioned near the end, I think I would prefer a stiffer or thicker stem. It's an Akaso...I don't have the GoPro yet.
@@JUICERATINGS Fair enough, I'm betting with a little research there is an adjustable shock for the rear.
As for cameras, quite seriously, I'd go Insta360 x3. I know the x4 recently came out, but I've heard of an overheating issue, which GoPro has had issues with for years. I have an X3 and the great thing is you really don't have to “aim it” much as it records 360 degrees. The angles/views are all done in post with their app, in which you can do all kinds of crazy stuff. I'm certainly not a pro, but maybe research it a bit. The X4 being the newest might mean the X3 (which I have) may be at a good price, don't know though. Just a thought that may be worth a look.
Perfect. Good info. Thanks
Is it possible to pedal hard for the exercise at a lower speed (15-20MPH) with the torque sensor?
Absolutely, if you put it in pedal assist 1 and a high gear you can definitely get real exercise.
@@joshread3740 thanks, I ordered a white one with dual battery yesterday
I own a Grizzly, a Wired Freedom, and just put a preorder deposit on this bike. I think, and hope this is the happy medium I've been looking for. Your thoughts?
I think the Grizzly is great as is the Goat V3. Both powerful bikes and obviously the Wired Freedom and Ecells all have similar speeds (with probably the Goat on top), but all of those bikes lack in one category or another when compared to the Furious EMX. Number one the Goat and Grizzly and very motorbike-like and not made for pedaling. No raising and lowering the seat. The Ecells and Wired are large bikes and I find the 20x4 the sweet spot for me. Lastly, none of them have the EMX torque sensor. THIS torque sensor is everything and a huge differentiator. I don't ride my Freedom anymore because I am always on this EMX, it's just so comfortable and fun to ride. I'm going to sell my Freedom, but it hit me, I don't know what I would buy that would be better or similar to the EMX. For me it's the perfect bike. A solid 8 out of 10. There are two mods that you will want (Larger Chain Ring and eventually change the tires) Super tall people or people who want to off road or throttle only, they should choose a different bike. For everyone one else, I am finding it hard not to recommend this bike and Im up to 2800 miles. I did crack the rack which is being replaced, video coming soon. But it's just the rack. Bike is great and fine.
I also dislike the thin stem as I feel the bumps in the bars and the speed is exact up to 32 mph and then gets off by 4 mph. Two minor drawbacks that takes away from it being a 10 out of 10. That, and I would love a bike that hits 42-44 mph, I top out at 37, but 99% that is fast enough. I almost never ride 37. I think there is always something on any bike to dislike. The things I dislike on this one are very minor (for me, could be major for others)
@@JUICERATINGS Agree with everything you said. I'm also a motorcycle rider, if I want to throttle a bike, I'll get on my Harley. On an ebike, I WANT to peddle, I want to get some exercise. Glad to hear you think this is a great medium between the Grizzley and other moped style ebikes, and the Wired Freedom. That is exactly what I am looking for. At 5.9 the Wired Freedom is a little tall for me, it's fine once you get going, but at stops I'm not comfortable on the bike unless i drop the seat down, then my legs aren't getting good extention, so I might as well get back on the Grizzley because it's easier to manage.
Yes I am 5'8". I don't find the Wired uncomfortable, but it's a different ride. Again, the EMX isn't perfect, but I don't think there is a bike on the market right now that matches it. I honestly don't know what I want my new second bike to be once I sell the Wired. Maybe the Juiced Jetcurrent Pro, but there is no rear suspension and not interested in folding. But it may be the closest to the EMX out there.
Thinking about this one. What iif any are the advantages of having a dual motor bike?
I thought the same thing. I also have a Wired Freedom and thought I didn't care about torque sensors either. Then I rode this bike. Basically, the dual motor just feels better, the power at acceleration is awesome and beats a rear hub bike, but the real advantage is it climbs hills like crazy. Once you factor in the torque sensor it's amazing. Just a fun bike, a great ride.
@JUICERATINGS Thank you. I just sold my New Wired Freedom. Had it about a month. Just to big of a bike for me being only 5'8.
@@dheller777 I think I am going to sell mine too. I don't ride it anymore with this EMX. I am also 5'8". But I want a second one and the only 20"4" that is close to this one is the Goat, but I don't like the moped-style and I like to pedal.
@JUICERATINGS The Billy Goat V3 is in my short list also. I like the better top end speed in the 40s if I am driving with traffic. I do not like the moped style seat either. The police tend to pull more of them over in this area than a bike that looks more like a bike. The Billy Goat also has bettet front and reat turn signals, along with a much better headlight. That said, Furious is offering a second battery for $200, which came free with my Wired Freedom but cost a lot more on the Billy Goat. You can see why I am still trying to decide on which of these to purchase.
Yeah I do. I really like this bike. I have no regrets. I did get a crack in the rear rack and they are sending me a new one, but everything else is just so nice. I really don't want a moped or a cadence sensor so this bike beats anything I would buy right now. Things change fast. I think Furious may be working on a faster bike, but I think it's a long ways off. In the meantime I hit 37 pretty easily and have ridden this over 2500 miles this summer. Even though mine has the external wire (the new ones don't) I do not regret buying one of his demo bikes at all. I never thought I'd get tired of the Freedom.
There's some good info in this video, but it's too long by half! There's a lot of rambling. Also, you should consider using chapters, they're great for your audience but they're also great for you as a creator as they'll help you to focus, organize and streamline your content. You've got a good way of communicating, just need to tighten everything up. I hope you don't take this as a negative and I wish you luck with your chanell and that you're able to grow it to 50,00 subs or more!
Great information. Really appreciate it. I actually cut some stuff so I guess I am glad I did. I had a whole menu/display tutorial.
Chapters added.
Chapters are not showing in the video timeline. I think yiu need to change the first 2 entries from 0:00 Furious EMX Intro 1:35 Components to 00:00 Furious EMX Intro
01:35 Components
@@MUSIC-kw5ke Yup thanks. I did that but didn't save. Should be good to go.
Chapters are now showing on the timeline for me!
No front chain guard??
No. When I upgraded I don’t think it fit. But ut hasn’t fallen off yet. Suppose if I rode rougher stuff it would matter
So I'm trying to find me a 20 inch that do the 40 mi an hour I think it would be that pro trailer
haha I just put those pedals on my Wired Freedom.
They're great. I have them on my Freedom too. I haven't been hit yet so I am taking that as evidence that they work.
@@JUICERATINGS I also put a govee usb tv light strip on the frame. Better to be seen than be dead lol.
@@sonofevil77 I will check em out.
I just pre ordered for Nov. What kind of charger comes with this thing? I also got the rear battery version an wondering if I need to purchase another charger.
Anybody know?
I do not know the kind, but it's a nice ventilated charger with fan. Feels very safe and nothing has overheated. I "think" he will send two chargers but you may want to ask. If he doesn't, I would definitely buy one so you have two chargers. I charge off my bike because of the hot in the summer and the cold in the winter. It doesn't work for me to charge on the bike.
when is the next video coming out
Soon. Some updates on this bike followed by a cool new approach to ebike videos
HOW MANY THOUSAND $s and they STILL don't have it figured out how to keep the rider from ghost pedaling? I expect more.
It doesn't really ghost until 30ish MPH, which is pretty good. Plus the controller is set up to output more than standard bikes. I just put the chainring for more resistance it's not required.
Can't find a bike that goes 40 mi an hour it's a 20-inch can't find it nowhere don't I probably have to make it and I don't know how to make a bike
I agree. I'd like 40-44 mph on a 20 inch. I don't need or want it faster. I think Furious is trying to make one. They sort of indicated they're trying to get the suspension and other details worked out so it's safe. I would keep an eye out. I would guess mid to late next year if they do it. The Aniokki pro Max is 20 inch and goes 40 plus, but I don't necessarily trust the brand.
Man i got a flat the first day, Argh!
Yikes. On your EMX? I have well over 2,000 miles and never had one. I live in Ohio though so we don't have goatheads or much of anything like that.
instead of hour long...make 2 thirty minutes ones ...
Other vids will definitely be shorter.
arought to lift to ready
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