Vivo X100 Pro Review | Good Device, Not for Me
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Finally finished my review of the X100 Pro, and while this is an amazing device overall, it's just not the one for me (thanks in part to Vivo's sad response to issues).
Leave a comment below letting me know, am I too petty? Do you like the X100 Pro? Do you think Xiaomi is better? Thanks for watching!
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0:00 - Intro
0:16 - Spec / Daily
1:09 - Screen
1:42 - Battery is meh
2:11 - Gaming
3:45 - Speakers
4:48 - Camera / Photo
7:32 - Video
8:38 - Problems / Conclusion - Наука та технологія
Notice the difference in screen resolution...thats when i knew this video was cap
Not noticeable in day to day use, but it is still noticeable
Especially since I use my device without my glasses at night, meaning it's much closer to my face ;)
Are you using filter preset to edit photos so they look like film? Or manually?
I usually edit them all manually in Lightroom
only problem with vivox100pro is the image file size is really low ( like 4 or 7 MB) compared to other smartphones, also if you use some other android apps for photographing , the file size comes to 25MB-from a vivox100pro user
How do you attach the moment lenses to your Xperia?
Great video btw. Im looking at picking this up atm.
The Moment lens comes with the screw on attachment piece
Hey did u order it or is it available in your store? If u ordered it would u mind telling me where u ordered it?
Thanks!
I ordered from WondaMobile, so I had to import into Japan. I've ordered a few devices from them over the years and haven't had issues, but that's just me
Let me know, am I too petty, or should we expect better at this price point?
*also something I didn't touch on was the IR blaster. It's cool to have but doesn't work with my AC unit, which is the only thing I'd use it for. So it's a miss for me
I honestly just had to double check this. I thought it said: let me know, am I too pretty. You are just the right amount of prettiness 😂
@@maverick85 I try not to state the obvious too much 💁♂️
Another thorough video shibi. 9:49 Vivo's response to third party is very out of touch with the mobile photography space...
I pressed them two different times as well and got the same response both times, so it's not something I care to deal with. Oh well!
@@ShibiChan They're going for the average aspect ratio , but hopefully the camera made up for it
May i have the name of the warm tinted nd filter that you used?
Polar Pro VND + Mist! They have 2 versions with different levels of ND
Great vid! I'd wait till mid May if I were you, the vivo x100 ultra is supposed to come out soon, and it will rock the SD 8G3, have the same same 900 sensor as the Xiaomi and Oppo, semi curved screen as the 14, and the telephoto lens will be bigger mp as rumoured.
I've heard it will only be a China release which is a no from me, but either way I think I'm done with the brand overall already sadly lol
I own x100pro Indian version [funtouch os14]
Cons:
#1. Design is not ergonomic to hold
#2. Front and back glass protection is very weak, even you drop from 3-4 feet , its gone
#3. Even battery is 5400mAh, it run almost a day, expecting more (even I am not gamer)
#4. Funtouch OS is not mature or polished OS yet. Few basic functionality still missing
#5. Video quality is like 30-40k phone even at 4k.
vivo x100 pro still number 1 if u compare with any phone also still vivo winner 🥶still photography king
I'll be sure to update my opinion if I agree after trying the Xiaomi!
@@ShibiChan you said that its battery should have lasted long
Can you explain your usage and screen on Time that you are getting in Vivo x 100 pro
I switched back from Xiaomi 14 Ultra to X100 Pro, huge battery drain and camera results are the same if not worse then on X100 Pro. Cant wait for your results :)
Can someone share vivo x100 pro international version camera apk?
Unfortunately these moment lenses aren't the sharpest given the prices they're asking for it.. Might consider upgrading my Sony Xperia IV this year so the next iteration with it's rumoured new screen aspect ratio should be interesting to watch.
Seems to be pretty device specific for a lot of these third party lenses in my experience. I'm actually incredibly happy with the performance on my Xperia 1V. Also waiting to see whatever Sony unveils soon
X100 ultra is gonna be crazy when it releases! hope you get your hands on one and test the cameras.
Odds are slim to none, but if there's only an origin os version it's a definite no
@@ShibiChan What is wrong with origin os?
@@Ionut.Manuel🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@Ionut.Manuel I don't want to use a device specifically designed for a market other than mine. While it seems to mostly work for others, if I'm buying a device for myself then I'm not going to tolerate anything that I don't want to deal with.
Also I'm not familiar with the security of origin os and what they relay back to the country. I'm more aware of what I'm losing on Android, and was somewhat hesitant to even try global versions of Chinese devices. But for the time being, I've decided I'm okay trying the global versions from said companies if the hardware seems worth it
@@ShibiChan Other than android auto you should not worry about anything else, works perfectly fine with chinese ROm here in Europe too
In your opinion what is the best used Android smartphone under 200 US bucks having an Antutu 10 Score around 735000?
I'm probably not the person to ask, I don't base my opinions off of benchmark scores, and honestly I'm not super familiar with the under $200 segment
Battery just ok? I'm using Origin OS and I'm getting around 10 hours of screen-on time. Can you share the scenario in which you use your phone and get OK battery life?
Also, for charging, you have the option to go either Fast, or Super fast. That helps improve battery health
I'd say my usage isn't too crazy by any means. Here's a screenshot of the last few days. It ended up lasting through the days easily but only because I barely used the phone. I have 5G off as well
imgur.com/a/fbgk7Wt
@@ShibiChan Thanks man. Quick question, though: Are you using Origin OS or Funtouch? Cuz it seems to me that Origin gets better battery life+ stability
using global Funtouch version and battery sucks
they pushed some updates recently for origin os, which claimed to add ois support for third party apps
Interesting to hear this actually, and even weirder considering they literally told me they wouldn't fix it. Maybe it's a lack of communication between support and devs / engineers
I've also been torn between the 14 ultra and the vivo..
I used to buy flagship spec for gaming until i got a handheld pc and a laptop.
So it was more for cameras, more swayed to the vivo as i can get it like £300 cheaper, and camera wise seems similar in performance
If you don't care about 3rd party app OIS then the Vivo is probably a good bet to save the extra money.
I'm pretty interested in the extra photography kit (love me a physical shutter) and I own mostly 67mm filters anyway, so it'd integrate well with my workflow already.
Another thing I didn't mention in the video, is that sometimes 100mm is weird for me. It's either too close or not enough reach. I like that the Xiaomi has 75 and 120. It matches a little better how I tend to shoot with real glass
Have you checked out the OnePlus 12?
I think I'm done with BBK in general tbh
@@ShibiChan why?
-Cameras don't have great third party accessory support
-Wide open aperture main cam
-No OIS on third party apps
-Bad experience on Vivo support
All are valid concerns. If you don't mind any of these, this is an absolute beast of a device. Vivo X100 Ultra just got released too so it literally just dethroned that beast
Sorry I'm late to the party. Very thoughtful review. Great work! So now that the Xperia event has come and gone is it time to just pick up the leitz phone 3?
Dammit. My guess was wrong 😂
No apologies needed! Needless to say, I am very on the fence about bothering to try and get the 1VI. The fact that they are charging the price they are for it is crazy, and is like a kick to the teeth. Most of the sponsored content is pretty telling that it is just paid content lol.
Even still, part of me wants to try it. I hate the color red but it'd be cool to have just because it's been a while to have such a strong color.
Definitely going to be getting the Xiaomi though. It'll be probably another month or two because life and expenses, but eventually!
Thanks as always for watching. I have a portrait shoot using the Vivo that I'll release this week as well, so be on the lookout!
@@ShibiChan I know exactly how you feel. I don't necessarily see much wrong with the 1 VI (apart from the price!) but I don't see anything that great about it either. You've made a solid choice with the Xiaomi. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the leitz 3. I don't think it does anything incredibly impressive, I just appreciate that it's quite unique and some of the software tricks look quite cool - although they'll probably just become a novelty after a while. I'll await your upcoming video. Cheers, dude!
@@maverick85 Honestly it really is the price that ruins it. If it was decently cheaper, it'd be a fine option.
I hope you enjoy that one! Even if it becomes a novelty, from what I've seen it is at least built on a solid base. And I'm a sucker for a novel phone that no one else around me has. It was one of the main reasons I looked at the Xperia 1II way back when I did
@@ShibiChan yeah the price is just too high. And right now I'm looking for something with some personality. Until my father in law finally caves in and gives me his Leica that's barely left the box!
Which phone then you recommend? I want to leave iPhone but I don’t like Samsung phones and pixels doesn’t have 5g in my country
Just go with vivo I have zero regret used 14 pro and s23 ultra 😊
You are not petty you are absolutely correct
Can you do video taking photo using Mist filter with either the Sony or vivo, i just wanna see how well it turn out on the smartphone
Also you might wanna switch from Vivo to xiaomi ultra line to get the similar camera experience but with variable aperture
Thank you for watching! Not a bad idea at all, I should do a video on using a mist filter versus not, and how to try and mimic the effect in post processing
Definitely looking forward to Xiaomi. In hindsight, I'm very surprised the Vivo doesn't have that option
@@ShibiChan i can do the mist effect in Lightroom already but filter are tempting. also the Mi ultra line come with photographer kit that you can slap on 58mm on the Vivo youre holding is not top of the line from Vivo , there should be a X100 Ultra version of that
@@mitismee I definitely plan on getting the photo kit with the newest 14 Ultra from Xiaomi. I'm not personally interested in whatever new thing Vivo has to offer anymore lol.
The photo kit seems great for slapping on 67mm filters though, which I have quite a few of
@@ShibiChan i even like the leica color on the xiaomi more than the Vivo . But still hoping for Xperia with 1 inch sensor return though because i love sony camera layout and manual control also the sony camera color for video as well
@@ShibiChan also note that Vivo x100 pro isnt top of vivo line so you can't compare it to the like of a Mi ultra line... There's a x100 ultra coming soon.
Absolutely love your review. No pandering, no nonsense just giving honest thoughts and clarifying about the reasoning behind them, which is justified.
A few points :
1.) The display, I might be wrong but afaik, (I got this from GSMarena), Sony's 4k screen is 4k only during photo viewing or watching videos. When texting, scrolling, etc. The screen is actually in FHD+ mode. So even though there are more pixels, the software is displaying an FHD+ output.
2.) Gaming, well, I've gotta say, you play more games/ a more diverse range of games than 90% of mobile phone reviewers who just spam benchmarks. I respect you for that.
3.) Battery and charging. I COMPLETELY agree with the charging, everyone has THE CHOICE to go slower when there's fast charging but can't go fast if the phone has slow charging. Like why NOT have the choice? I agree on that but the battery? Woahhh something's definitely up because in every test I've seen the Vivo is CONSISTENTLY at the very least on par with other flagships. Would love to see more clarification on what your use case is like, like use cases determine the battery for the most part. So someone using insta on iPhone would see a different battery usage compared to someone on android because it's so poorly optimized for example.
4.) Variable aperture, this is where I have a problem. I mean it's not the phone's fault yk? Like, the phone was made with the sole purpose being the fact that it has to have everything on it, and that's what I like, for example unlike Google, Vivo doesn't rely on AI or processing to fix EVERYTHING, they use hardware to get as far as possible so you get as much as possible while you shoot and that's the type of thing I like. Like, there's no online AI service, AI stuff is completely on device.
Anyways sorry for the weird tangent but the main point is that the first priority is to make the phone as good as possible by itself. And android manufacturers have historically been far behind Apple in terms of third party support. Vivo is backwards yes but their support team is incompetent about this just like most companies. It's third party, so it's understandable why they said what they did. I'm not saying they're great but they're not horrible either. They just didn't want to waste time and money on third party stuff I mean honestly you're the first reviewer I saw who uses these so yeah it's rare. The reason why I support them is because of the price, it's not as expensive as Xiaomi, Samsung or Sony's top flagships. In my country the X100 Pro is as expensive as the S24+. And at that point, how can I complain about something so minor, yk? Like, variable aperture is something I TRULY wish they had but this is their MIDDLE flagship, like the iPhone 15 Pro is to the 15 Pro Max, so some features are cut/ not the cutting edge and YET the X100 Pro is probably in the top 3 of cameraphones. Them not including variable aperture is justified for me at this price.
If the X100 Ultra doesn't have it then by all means criticize them and you SHOULD criticize them for what they don't provide but I hope you understand the reasoning behind their actions.
Also, the Xiaomi 14 Ultra, at least in the global model, has 300 mah less battery and is notoriously poor in terms of battery life so I'm curious as to see how you feel about it lol, their charging is fast and their speakers are the best on a non-gaming phone for me so there's that. And for the price, it HAS variable aperture so that's great. What I'm curious to see are the portrait mode shots of human subjects, everywhere I see samples of it I'm disappointed, would love to see someone of your caliber take those shots.
Finally, I wish you made more reviews man. Love your videos, honest, in-depth and fun to watch. Especially your photography, my goodness is it good. Like it's just fun to look at the photos you take, regardless of phones. I'm done with big youtubers, all talk and no soul/skill. UA-camrs like you are the heart of this platform, you have the skills and are real enough to post your thoughts about the phone even if you don't like it/don't wanna use it. I respect that a lot. If you had the budget of big youtubers and the time to take shots with a lot more phones trust me man, you'd have been the next gold standard for phone photography on youtube.
Anyways, sorry for the long essay lol, hope you have a nice day man!
Thanks so much for the comment! I don't mind long write ups at all, I appreciate the more in-depth conversation.
I agree with basically all of your points, especially the choice to charge quickly. You're also correct about the Xperia 1V screen. It rarely if ever actually renders content at the full resolution. Even still, text appears super crisp. Likely moreso the combo of smaller overall screen with more pixels and less the rendering part. Just as an aside, I don't actually care for the 4k screen and look forward to it being changed to something more practical.
As for the lack of variable aperture, I do get where you're coming from. It's easy for me to forget this isn't the absolute top of this device line, because it already is so good. And like you said, it tends to be cheaper than a lot of the competition. I'll definitely keep an eye on the ultra release for Vivo.
I also agree about their support and devs. I responded in the video probably a little more emotionally than I should have, since I felt like paying over 1000 for a device should mean you're at least getting some sort of quality in terms of communication. Vivo also is far from the only one with this problem, like you mentioned as well. Sony is HORRIBLE in terms of it also. Which is really the only reason I'm switching to Xiaomi. Super niche, but important to me and maybe one viewer of the video lol.
I appreciate the compliment a lot. I've been making less videos lately just because life is hectic and creating and editing is basically a job in itself, on top of the chaos of work and life in a different country. My ultimate goal is to be able to review important devices moreso through the eyes of someone focused on photo and video, and less so on the usual kind of tech atmosphere on the platform. So given the opportunity, I'll likely try and travel to a new location of Japan for each review, giving some history on the location and showing it off while going over each device. So until then, when companies are cool with sending me review devices, I'll just keep doing the sporadic kind of content I'm doing now, and hopefully the channel will keep growing at a decent enough rate.
Thanks again for the comment and for watching and engaging so much!
@@ShibiChan omg I thought I had sent the reply but it got removed by youtube or something ig
Oh my, the screen still being sharp mayyybe has to do with the fact that even though the internal resolution is low, the screen itself is 4k. I can't think of any other reasons lol.
Btw what are your thoughts on the aspect ratio of a phone? I think 20:9 is the perfect spot for phones. I tried the Oneplus 8 which a cousin of mine owned and it was utter perfection in terms of design for me, I prefer centered cameras as they looks more "different", cus it's not like Apple and it also feels comfortable to hold as your fingers aren't touching the cameras all the time from the side but you instead rest your fingers.
Yeah I mean even the Xperia hasn't had variable aperture and omg if you get the Vivo Ultra that'd be bonkersss, like your photography skills along with the phone's imaging prowess mmmmm, best crossover since Endgame lmao
Yess communication with consumers is a huge problem for nearly all manufacturers unfortunately unless you're someone super small and niche like Nothing, or something. And yeah your reasoning for switching is completely justified but if you have a problem with Xiaomi I doubt you're gonna have a better experience than you've had before lol
Wow your aims are quite ambitious! Your channel is one of the most underrated ones on youtube and I'd say it's because you're niche. I wish you had more people watching your stuff but that'd just mean you'd have to make stuff for mainstream audiences and you'd have lost your charm. If you're ever in doubt dw my friend I'll try my best to keep supporting you throughout your videos.
I hope you don't burn yourself out or anything, just keep trying to upload or something if you feel like it and if you don't, it's fine because you at least tried :D. Make sure to take care of yourself my friend, you looked kind of exhausted in this vid, you doin ok now? Best of luck with your channel btw!
I have a final question, do you think the Xperia 1 V is worth the price in this landscape? Like as you said, the X100 Pro itself is so good you forgot it wasn't a top tier flagship. Yet the Xperia 1 V has camera sensors that are similar in size to those in the Oneplus 12. I was thinking of getting a Sony phone at one point but I was hesitant because of their lackluster processing which just feels like I can get by using the Pro Mode in other phones and their mediocre sensor size. Only the 1 II was good for me and if it had an efficient chip/one that didn't overheat in the phone and if it had the 5k mah battery I'd have gotten it. The same goes for the 5 V, it's way too overpriced for me, like I know RAM isn't all that important after 8 gigs but still, 1000 euros for an 8/128 gb phone is absurd to me, especially considering it has no telephoto cams. I think you would understand as well that a telephoto camera is just simply amazing the way it captures photos in a different angle.
Like, Sony themselves make the 1 inch sensors and the LYT-900 sensors, why don't they use it on their phones? I had an argument with someone online and call me petty but I think for the amount of money someone pays for these phones, they should only get the best that the brand has to offer. Like why should this even be a debate? It's weird, like making the best engine for a motorcycle and then not using it in your own but pricing your bike like a superbike. The 1 VI seems to be a not so major uplift over the 1 V and that just saddens me, these phones would do great with a 1 inch sensor with variable aperture and 1/2 inch+ sensors for the UW cam and the telephoto. That'd make the 1 VI super competitive I think. Then for the 5 VI they could add a 1/2" telephoto that's 2-3x and a 1/2" UW cam, that'd be brilliant. That way Sony's minimalist processing would still look good as the sensors don't require as much processing.
And another argument some people make is that Sony doesn't want a huge camera bump on their phones. What's wrong with that though? As demonstrated by Apple, Google, Xiaomi, Vivo and others, people are willing to live with larger camera bumps if they get the proper quality. The iPhone 13 Pro and even the 11 Pro's camera bumps were considered a bit comical by some people. I feel like if someone wants the best they have to sacrifice some ergonomics. Sony could make the 5 VI as thin as the 1 V with the changes I mentioned most likely and that phone could be the option for people who want thin devices. Idk, it feels like a weird thing to hear nowadays, considering we're long past the thing phone days of the S6 and the iPhone 6s or something.
Yeah anyways thanks for reading and replying my friend and have a nice day!
@@kaiserfakinaway5909 As mediocre as I think the 1V cameras are (considering the price of the device), I still think it's the best Xperia yet by far. I said since the Pro-I came out, if they made a version 2 that ironed out all of the problems of that generation, I'd love it. A current gen Pro-I with their newest tech, glass elements, etc, it'd be amazing.
It's Sony themselves that are chasing the thinness. And you're completely right, you can't have the best cameras while also having the thinnest phone, you have to choose. So my biggest issue is that Sony likes to market themselves as a phone for photographers, but they don't prioritize the right things. If they said something like "the world's thinnest flagship with a unique shooting experience" or something like that, fine, whatever. But don't tell me you've made a phone for photography then spit in my face while your competitors better utilize your own tech. Rant over lol.
I'm interested to try the 1VI in hand when it releases. From rumors alone, I doubt I'll want to get it.
I'm also not expecting Xiaomi to be any better in terms of support. But, I do know third party app compatibility and general hackability is better, which is what I'm looking for more and more lately. I also like how all rear cameras use large and matching sensors, and I also want to try the photography kit. Still chasing that "real" camera experience in a phone lol.
As for me, working in Japan just sucks lmao. It's as bad as you've probably ever heard it is. So, taking some steps to try and make things better. Anyway, feel free to join the discord if you want. It's not large, but it's easier to answer questions in bursts than in longer form here.
Thanks as well!
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How can ois not be used by 3rd part apps? Maybe eis can not used, but ois is part of the Camera....
If you don't believe me, you're free to try yourself lol.
It's part of the hardware, but requires software as well. Vivo doesn't make this software portion actively available for devs. Which means they can't integrate it into apps.
Vivo isn't the only manufacturer to do this by the way. Sony, for example, does the same with Xperia.
It's an annoying thing that I hope by pointing out, will make more people complain about
Looking forward to your video on the xiaomi 14 ultra
Looking forward to picking it up as well! I've heard even more positive things about it from current owners
Seems like a solid device for sure!
May want to wait for lens fogging resolution/fix on Xiaomi 14 Ultra
The X14U had lens fog, average battery and awful night time video and only average night time video. Comparing it to my Huawei P30 Pro, I was disappointed.
I owned Xiaomi 14 ultra and is the best phone.stop telling lies
Do u have xiaomi 14 ultra in ur hands ? Or It just base on the internet?
@@johnalvert4139 yeah pre order it all the set with photography kit and watch.its all ok no problems and the camera is awesome especially the pro.
@@johnalvert4139 maybe all these negative stories are from apple and Samsung fanboys
@@johnalvert4139 I had it for about a week before I returned it. I have video evidence of the lens fogging.
Still no ois for apps like motioncam huh, kinda dealbreaker since they themselves also don’t support log videos….
MotionCam does support log recording, specifically with Cineon at the moment. They are working on their own file format as well with hopes on getting it integrated more widely.
The lack of OIS is going to be with any third party app due to the way Vivo makes the settings accessible sadly
Well i understand how you feel about the response from Vivo. That was bad from them.
May i ask; was the response from the CEO or Founder?
Just from support, I doubt from anyone higher up. Although strangely enough I had someone claiming to be from Vivo product management in Europe reach out to me through social media. But they ended up ghosting after just a few messages and I didn't look much further into their account so it could just be a fake
@@ShibiChan ooo okay but sorry about that dude because I noticed it really pained you
But you could look past now
Everything is perfect for me expect the stabilization on videos, I guess. Man how did they not figure that out comparing with other premium flagships, they do it better
Wireless mic not synced with mouth. No audio jack, I know.
I like the way you cover things that most reviewers ignore. For example I've always wondered why a variable always is not commonly used for larger sensors but was used for a 1/2.55” sensor in the Galaxy S9 and Note 9. Keep it up!
I appreciate it, thanks for watching!
I try and talk about the things that matter to me, which ends up being slightly different than what I feel most reviewers cover
Luckily for you the Xperia 1 VI was just announced. Probably not as heavily computational reliant as on other smartphones but should be enough to justify some of your needs 😂
The regular vivo x100 has a 1/1.59 main image sonsor, that might have fixed the extremely shallow depth of field problem
Definitely, but I also want the benefits of a larger sensor as well.
I think I'm going to just look forward to the Xiaomi as I think it checks more boxes than the Vivo for me
@@ShibiChan idk, people who have reviewed both say that main sensor image quality is almost identical, it's almost as if 1 inch sensor are a marketing gimmick, but keep us posted
wait for x100 ultra
Yep, Customer Service is very important. Maybe a cultural diff.
It's weird that you haven't even mentioned Xperia 1vi arrival? Looks like you are not very pleased with their decisions lol
Partially that, but also just waiting to see what's actually going to be released. I plan on making a video once I see the official specs.
Although I'll say now, if they ditch the aspect ratio I'm done with them as well lol
@ShibiChan they should've kept the aspect ratio, but offer longer software support. I'd buy in a heartbeat, but 1k usd (or even more) for two years of updates...
That's just sad...
You should definetly try to get your hands on Huawei Pura 70 Ultra it also get the same 1" Sensor and a variable aperture aswell
if compare with vivo vivo still won
@@kkentertainment1822 Hardware wise? it's still impressive how Huawei still trying to make a phone after all the US ban sanction. i want to see them back on their feet and give a big middle finger to US
Not to mention their durability is by far the strongest ever on a smartphone outside the rugged phone category. their new camera system and overall i'm happy.
Sadly Huawei isn't on my radar at all, I'm not going to use any phone that isn't android based. Thank you for watching though!
Give me the phone please, i'm a fan of X100 pro🥺
Global variant came in blue color? Why not in india🥲🥲🥲