It being scrapped is better than having the ip butchered further. It's also disturbing how Henry Cavill simply can't catch a break because he has the NERVE to want to make content for people who actually care.
i cant help but feel if he was allowed to run with it he would have made the most sucessful show in years. I also believe they know that too and cant have anyone proving they are ruining every ip and are completely wrong.
Bet you anything Cavill held the line on them injecting bullshit into the show. I agree, i'd rather it be scrapped than have it go the way of star wars as an IP
It doesn’t have to be a flop. But they can’t help themselves but to make it woke. They’ve set up ridiculous DEI requirements in their film studios that have hamstrung production.
Quite rediculously, there are 2 things counting against Cavill: 1) he's a straight white male, 2) he stays true to the lore. Yet no one wants to admit it's the Woke DEI garbage ruining shows/games.
What a nonsence. What's common between these woke-weaklings and Chaos? Maybe things like you just aren't good enough to make something for you, loyalist? 😂
IP lawyers probably say differently... But yeah, Amazon is for some reason determined to produce a show which non-fans will not get and fans will hate, and subsequently cancel it after season 1. I'm not sure this mythical 'general audience' exists... which producers always think SF stories will appeal to if diluted enough... they should just go back to producing family drama.
@@hoelio The transport section doesnt matter to Amazon. It's just a side hussle for them since a couple years. They make their Money with IT services like AWS.
It's even sadder when you learn how much bs Ryan Reynolds had to go through to get Deadpool green lit. Even leaking the footage by 'accident' was required.
thats fine, id rather having the serie die before its was born, than having a woke crap fest no one will watch. feel bad for cavill. the guy cant catch a break
@@aboynamed666 wtf are you talking about, the fallout show was perfectly aligned with what you would expect from a bethesda era fallout vibe. if it was woke lucy would have kissed a girl called herself a man hater, the trans actor playing the brotherhood of steel character would have been a main love interest to their sworn brother maximus, or mentioned them being trans like 20 times in the first episode (its not once mentioned in the show) the fallout show was great and actually better then i expected it to be.
I still think Henry could easily put together a team of animators and voice actors that are loyal to the source material on UA-cam with a ton of less hassle.
"The black library authors have no business writing a screen play," my ass! Dan Abnett, one of the most popular Warhammer authors, literally co-wrote "Gaurdians of the Galaxy" 1 and 2 with James Gunn.
Fans: horus heresy eisenhorn ANY SPACE MARINE CHAPTER an inquisitor hunting down chaos rogue trader exploring the universe any of the 100+ books that have been written amazon: yeah we have no ideas.
The thing is, this is ideologically driven. To admit they were wrong is to admit their entire world view is wrong. This is why there will be no change without collapse. The ESG incentives are too strong for the companies to course correct if their own accord. Alll I say is, enjoy the fire, and await the companies that form out of the ashes.
We need to NOT fall into the trap of letting them label everything. What's around the corner is NOT a "games crash". A "games crash" implies that natural market forces have caused a downturn. That's NOT what's happening. We are in a MASSIVE BOYCOTT. That's right, the loss of profits in gaming right now all stem from US BOYCOTTING THEM. And they REFUSE to admit that.
@kyeda but they can and do.....thats fact look at Concord and look at SM2, it's math sorry......look what theh are changing in AC due to fan backlash, the winds are changing we just need to keep the pressure up another few years and reward the puppies that poop on the pad and punish the ones that piss on the carpet a couple more years and we will break their spine..... Nothing Woke is making money right now
@@spacejesus570 Sure; pretending to be holier than thou Placing a characters sexuality on the forefront of said characters personality Placing ideology in front of plot Wouldn’t be as bad as they had decent writing and made it feel more natural I’m a better writer than most of these dorks, don’t believe me? Check this out The female custodes; Fans: “wtf when this happen” Writer: “always has been”🤓👆🏾 Me: “the female custodes was created to integrate a custodes and a silent sister genes to make for smaller/stealthier squads” Super simple, and objectively better “Woke” isn’t inherently bad, it’s forced woke that is bad. And lately it’s all be forced woke just for the sake of being woke and if you disagree you’re just being disingenuous.
Nhaaa, give them time, people that want to gain money would hire him. Also if Amazon buy the rights to 40k, they would have to hire him, if not the bad Will of the community Will essentially kill any project they pull out, as Bad will always kill expectation and Amazon shows depend of expectations.
@@Rogue-a-Pogue yes, for the sole purpose and deciding factor for taking a role or not is the money on the table, right?... And Marvel is the the be-all and end-all of the acting world... Which decade was exactly the last Marvel film that was good and not related to Deadpool... surely not this one, and arguably not even the last one... the Deadpool series is much more indie than Marvel, that's why I'm not counting them.
@@andraskovacs8959 I was speaking from the point of view of Marvel. Marvel needs someone the general public cares more about like Cavill more than Cavill needs them. They're lacking in bankable stars right now, which is why they had to go back to the well with RDJ. Not that I'd say Cavill is particularly bankable but the recent Deadpool appearance should generate a lot more enthusiasm for any superhero project he's attached to. And at this rate, we'll likely only see a Warhammer movie if Cavill is willing to finance it (or at least a preview like the original Deadpool leak) himself. Would he be willing to take high-paying but low quality parts to do it though? That's the question.
I think we will get a Warhammer show eventually, I don’t think it’s impossible. If it’s good or not is a whole different story, Warhammer is just anti Hollywood, extremely violent and gory, doesn’t meet their diversity quota, and contains lots of religious imagery. A lot of things that makes Warhammer Warhammer the Hollywood execs hate
I also think winds are changing they have lost billions pushing females where they don't belong ( guess what the rock cast as Barbie prime instead of Margo also would have lost money ) and the summer of pale n stale has absolutely showed them where the money 💰 is period over and over and over.....they are starting to get it
It’s impossible to inject a moral/political agenda into Warhammer 40k without absolutely destroying it. Which is I think the reason the shows production is going nowhere. Amazon desperately wants to use 40k to virtue signal but they also don’t want it to end up like Rings of power, they cant have both
Its baffling how incompetent current AAA developers can be, overscoping is one of the first thinks you learn not to do in software development, It's a problem expected on Indy projects, yet it happen on AAA with millions in line.
Imagine hideo kojima for his mastery of twists and respect to timelines,Guillermo del Toro for his artistic style and unique creature designs, and Henry cavill for both his love of Warhammer and as it's lore keeper working together on a potential Warhammer series or even just a single film?
Henry Cavill should just try and do it himself at this point. Work with some smaller studio or start his own studio and get funding and investment from fans and content creators to get it started. WH40k is at an all time high in popularity right now with the success of Space Marine II so now would be the best time for it. Assuming GW lets him use the IP.
After seeing the huge success of space marine 2 it's obvious there's a LOOOOT of money to be made with this franchise. If somebody else gets to pick up Henry's 40k I sincerely hope we get to see Amazon regret their decision.
They know that they cannot make their own BS story with warhammer because too many people know too much about the lore. So They said fuck it and dropped it. Its what they should've done with RoP
Actually there is a reason for it The whole process of making a female space marine is costly. You’ve most likely just have a single quality squad after like twice the amount of female children dying. With the boys there’s a plentiful amount of them to die. It’s better for the boys to go through the trials of even becoming a neophyte
Thank God Games Workshop is standing their ground, and not letting Warhammer 40K be run through the Amazon wood chipper. If Amazon can destroy Tolkien, i shudder to think what they would do to 40k.
Amazon and GW haven't even finalised the contracts (as both parties announced back in December they have till the end of this year to come to terms and sign off on it) so nothing is scrapped since nothing has even happened yet
I think Amazon underestimated how big of an franchise Warhammer and with it Games Workshop as an company already is and with that negoatiation about their aganeda is a hell lot more difficult at that point. It backfired on them so hard.
Amazon would not do it well , they would make it for a modern audience not the real audience. Just look at rings of power , Netflix’s Witcher and Disney killing Star Wars
@@xSyn_ i think they will do it justice compared to other companies. I dint think hulu would give it enough support and disney is out the window or they will let Kathleen Kennedy ruin it
I think a lot of modern games need to go back to basics. Like I remember this Mad Max open-world sandbox game a few years ago where you hunt for fuel, attack hostile bases that have puzzle elements, and tie everything together you have your driving rig that you slowly enhance over time. It did a great job of making you feel like a survivor in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. It was a simple, by-the-numbers design, but it was done so well that was enough to carry it. Games these days act like they need to constantly reinvent the wheel, which is dead wrong.
He probably said the only way this gets done is by using the source material and they freaked out because they couldn't push their agendas into an already established IP.
Yeah the sisters of battle are hardcore. When they think they've messed up in their faith, they shave their head and go into battle with nothing but a robe and a big f'in sword.
There are plenty of bad ass women in 40k. Lotara Sarrin, the admiral of the world eaters fleet, is only of the only humans to ever stand up to Angron and live. She is a certified bad ass.
There's two in the Imperium alone. You've got the Sisters of Battle who are your space nuns, and you've got the Sisters of Silence who are anti psyker specialists who often work with the Custodes. Not to mention all the female guardsmen, commissars, techpriests, etc.
Saber is legit. They've been pumping out free content for their WWZ game since forever and it's a multiple year old game (they just released a new Extinction mode for that just recently, after Space Marine launch) and have released a patch for Evil Dead, also just recently. So with the major success of Space Marines, they've still not neglected their old titles b/c ppl still playing those games. Again this shit is free content in terms of wwz other than the paid Arizona DLC (but that's an entire three new maps, new characters (voice lines and etc) and other stuff that you actually get something out of other than being nickel and dimed to death like EA/Ubisoft and bigger studio's.
So wait, literal decades of lore and story content, and they can't find something to adapt? More like once people shot down the DEI femstodes idea amazon realised they would have to actually make something that wouldn't be DEI friendly enough to increase their ESG score so decided to back out
I feel sorry for anyone who actually believes this fabricated narrative. If you’re reading this, it’s not too late to click off the video and critically examine your beliefs.
Let me guess Henry was being a HUGE pain in the ass , fighting every decision they made about the story and characters ! Probably things like female custodies , female space marines, gay space marines ,space marine romances be they hetro or gay . Stuff like that I expect. I bet someone put up the idea of a chaos and loyalist space marine romance . Can love conquer all even warp spawn deamons
@@TheReaLcatniP for sure he,s either the best asset ever for a show like this or the worst just depending on how faithful the dire tor or producers want to be . But that's the problem with modern Hollywood being faithful to the original I p isn't something they believe in. In fact it's far from it they make it for the mythical modern audience the one that's yet to support one of their projects like the Star wars shows they keep churning out
@@ErmIDK19 WH40K is slowly getting into mainstream right now, but with Cavill you're pretty sure to make it very visible and successfull because it will respect the fans and women will turn out to watch it as well. These studios don't want to make money I guess.
Paramount seems to be the only studio not forcing DEI woke BS on all their projects, the big boss says he's woke but they make South park now and are bringing back King of the hill so???
I would rather it Die than fuck it up. Cheers to Games Workshop and Henry Cavill for putting their foot down. We already have 100s of books, I can wait.
Dude it's like megacorps are allergic to making good decisions nowadays. They have a figurative money making machine with Hendry Cavill doing 40k, which would also blow up 40k with more heat than the big bang and yet again megacorp just shits the bed.
I think the best way they could introduce a 40k show would be a 'love death and robots' style show. Lots of short stories that flit and span the difference races (HERESY) and lives of the people in this setting. From hive world sump to craft world, front line guardsman to civilians trying to survive a chaos/Nid invasion. 40k is so vast and lore rich I think this would be the best way to expose newcomers to as much of the setting as possible.
I'm glad Amazon didn't get WH40k TV media. Someone else will come along eventually, hopefully after this stick-modern-politics-into-everything era is over.
It's pretty hard to F up 40k unless you're trying. It's the most popcorn of popcorn mindless entertainment you could hope for. 80s action movies did this easily.
How to do a good 40K series. 1. Build the series around a newly minted Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Maybe use Inquisitor Valeria from Dawn of War 2. 2. Build each season around dealing with a different conflict in the 40K universe with occasional sprinkling of chaos influences throughout. 3. Profit.
There's just no way you could let Amazon take over this franchise. They would completely ruin it financially and open the warp to flood our universe with the dark forces of chaos.
That's facts. Been playing my library and I'm having a BLAST lol played the Splinter cell series and now I'm up to Blacklist once I'm done I'll be trying out the Max Payne series. KEEP GOING UBIWOKE, BIOWOKE, WOKESTEADY. KEEP PUSHING US AWAY. OUR WALLETS ARE GROWING 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Honestly, this is probably for the best. After what they have done with Rings of Power and how they bastardized Tolkien’s lore. Amazon would have tried to do the same and end up turning it into Star Wars when 40k is far from that. Glad it's been scrapped, but it does suck that Henry Cavill has yet again been shortchanged from a proper adaptation.
It's like these companies all listen to people who like to chime in with their opinion on things but they never listen to the people who actually spend money🤑🤑🤑🤑
Im playing Morrowind right now. Im trying to imagine a game like this with updated graphics, modern combat. Maybe with larian style dialog. Man it would be so good
No scripts written, you mean there was nothing decent by one of the fans maybe? At all, there's a background and universe what's the problem 🤔 ... nothing from The Message, besides the new female whatevers🙄
I was really hoping for a visual show on the horus heresy, the same way Disney screwed up in not doing the Thrawn trilogy in stead of the poor skywalker crap
The show has not been cancelled, the share price is still very healthy, if it drops more than 10% in a day, it will be because it is cancelled, it hasn`t...yet!
strange that they didn't just start with the Horus Heresy trilogy and move from there... adaptation might not be easy, but the story is sound at least.
its crazy, i think I'm like a lot of people and if Henry Cavill gets kicked off of the WarHammer show for wanting to keep the lore and world true to the source material even though i know next to nothing about the lore, i will lose all interest in supporting it going forward
It's the great irony of our time that we are at a point where the technology in effects etc is at the best point ever to bring to life so many beloved IPs, but writers and studios are determined to change them...
you cant make this up, they have an IP with a humongous built in fanbase, a metric shitton of lore and have Henry Cavill as posterboy, who is known to not only be super into 40k and the lore, but also painstakingly meticulous about anything lorewise. they have a lot of great options to put in their DEI requirements, not by token or genderswapping, on top of my head there are the salamanders (i mean, black space marines that are praised because their self-imposed duty is to protect not only the imperium at large but also its citizens, its civillians, could there be a more favourable way to portrait POC in this series?), the sister sororitas and ofc the guard, a lot of badass characters from all over the galaxy and they are like "no no no, lets genderswap some of them and call it a day", that is just either lazy or very very stupid. they could be shooting fish in a barrel but these brainiacs wet the ammunition - the emperor distastes
@@johnd2946 I mean Elon likes space, cyber, alien things which relates to warhammer 40k. Who knows a random warhammer design might inspire Elon's next project.
Dissapointing as the current situation is, i'd rather this project go nowhere than them spew out hot garbage that would deter make making a good live action at a later date.
As a fellow scribe reading the 30k books I can tell you there are a lot of strong recurring female Humans, not sacrificial pawns (Space Marines) that would make great characters in the movies were they to be during the Horus Herecy likeEuphrati Keeler, Mersadie Oliton, Erda, Ilya Ravallion and more. they don't have to be Space marines to matter, if Amazon knew how harsh the reality of the role the space marines play they would not wish the women for it. and GW needs to tell there partners about this, the black library authors know how amazing this universe is for both genders and that its not only about the UltraSmurfs! P.S - VULKAN LIVES!
the female custodes made me realize there's bad actors on all sides. while i was originally against them for lore reasons, i dropped to neutral after spending some time in the comment sections related to that choice. half the fandom had legit complaints about geneseed, but the other half just got really sexist about it. guys can we defend the lore without being incels about it?
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GW is simply not going to allow Amazon to make what ever they want is the issue, so I doubt it will get made.
It being scrapped is better than having the ip butchered further.
It's also disturbing how Henry Cavill simply can't catch a break because he has the NERVE to want to make content for people who actually care.
i cant help but feel if he was allowed to run with it he would have made the most sucessful show in years. I also believe they know that too and cant have anyone proving they are ruining every ip and are completely wrong.
Bet you anything Cavill held the line on them injecting bullshit into the show. I agree, i'd rather it be scrapped than have it go the way of star wars as an IP
@@40k-Metalyea. I feel he and other fans who work there prefer to scrap the project altogether rather than making it continue without them
@@jcdesantis69I believe that was Amazon's problem. Him proving them wrong
Amazon says they don’t want another flop, yet continue to push 4 seasons of RINGS OF POWER. Ok Amazon continue denying you’re a hypocrite…
This fell through because Cavill Wont let them change the content to make it more woke. And I think Games workshop agree's with him
It doesn’t have to be a flop. But they can’t help themselves but to make it woke. They’ve set up ridiculous DEI requirements in their film studios that have hamstrung production.
Quite rediculously, there are 2 things counting against Cavill:
1) he's a straight white male,
2) he stays true to the lore.
Yet no one wants to admit it's the Woke DEI garbage ruining shows/games.
I think they already sign some sort of contract of those 5 seasons, like they have to go through and though unlikely these days, hope it hits
5 seasons ....
Ied rather it die than be warped by Chaos and Heresy
What a nonsence. What's common between these woke-weaklings and Chaos? Maybe things like you just aren't good enough to make something for you, loyalist? 😂
That's an insult to chaos and heresy
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Henry does not need Amazon, Amazon needs Henry and 40k!
They really don't. Did you forget the massive transport section Amazon is built on?
IP lawyers probably say differently...
But yeah, Amazon is for some reason determined to produce a show which non-fans will not get and fans will hate, and subsequently cancel it after season 1. I'm not sure this mythical 'general audience' exists... which producers always think SF stories will appeal to if diluted enough... they should just go back to producing family drama.
@@hoelio The transport section doesnt matter to Amazon. It's just a side hussle for them since a couple years.
They make their Money with IT services like AWS.
@@hoelio Perhaps I should have clarified "Their streaming division", where they need non DEI success to continue :)
If they let him do it his way this will be their Deadpool.
Its like they didnt see what Ryan Reynolds did with deadpool. Allergic to money is gonna be the death of any company
They don't care about the money. All they care is their woke agenda and propaganda.
it's not about the money it's about sending a message
It's even sadder when you learn how much bs Ryan Reynolds had to go through to get Deadpool green lit. Even leaking the footage by 'accident' was required.
@@9flare About?
@@AwholePieMadeForYou Gender identity, a message pushed by the concept of intersectionality.
Bummer if the show is scrapped, but better that then the alternative right?
They would have RUINED it.
Between eating shit and starving, I rather starve
Absolutely, Would have ruined it. Orkz would be talking about their feelings and all the primarchs and space marines would have been gay females.
@@jcdesantis69 I can already picture Guilliman with a butch haircut screaming "ITS MA'AM!"
Yeah... Alternative right is the worst
thats fine, id rather having the serie die before its was born, than having a woke crap fest no one will watch. feel bad for cavill. the guy cant catch a break
Like the fallout show 😞
@@aboynamed666I thought it was good, what was even woke about it
@@aboynamed666 wtf are you talking about, the fallout show was perfectly aligned with what you would expect from a bethesda era fallout vibe.
if it was woke lucy would have kissed a girl called herself a man hater, the trans actor playing the brotherhood of steel character would have been a main love interest to their sworn brother maximus, or mentioned them being trans like 20 times in the first episode (its not once mentioned in the show)
the fallout show was great and actually better then i expected it to be.
@@charlesmwolfyeah the fallout show was good, but… I think they were gonna ring of power it. For sure a female lead.
Cavell has been offered a new role in a Hollywood series which means he wouldn't be available to do GW.
I still think Henry could easily put together a team of animators and voice actors that are loyal to the source material on UA-cam with a ton of less hassle.
GW wouldn't allow that though because it wouldn't make them enough money...
@@Half_of_The_World sadly true
Maybe he can buy them. He should be like Elon.
@@chadbassett8381buy workshop games lol do you know how much they are worth?
He maybe not be able to buy GW so he should convice Elon to buy it and they can make a masterpiece together!
They can call it anti woke studios
If Amazon refuses to make lore accurate stuff, they can drop all of their shows as far as I'm concerned. They can stop ruining good stories.
Thank God they are scrapped. Amazons rape of lore is beyond horrible.
"The black library authors have no business writing a screen play," my ass!
Dan Abnett, one of the most popular Warhammer authors, literally co-wrote "Gaurdians of the Galaxy" 1 and 2 with James Gunn.
Heck, speaking of Dan Abnett they could literally make a series about the Horus heresy and have him write the first season
@federicoacker4342 It would definitely be good start for people unfamiliar with the 40k universe
@@federicoacker4342 nahhh i want a gaunts ghosts spin off first ;)
@@federicoacker4342I wish they would make a gaunts ghosts series
Fans:
horus heresy
eisenhorn
ANY SPACE MARINE CHAPTER
an inquisitor hunting down chaos
rogue trader exploring the universe
any of the 100+ books that have been written
amazon: yeah we have no ideas.
wrong... Amazon: i Know... FEMALE Space Marines.
Yeah it’s more like
“I can’t find anything woke in these 400 books therefore I can’t write a show about it”
There's literally over 400 novels/novellas/short stories, how could you not get "a good script" or competent script writers!?!?
To use DEI Consultants for writers and use Henry as Bait to bring the 40Ks Fandom into their Rainbow Colored BS
Because the "Hollywood" script writers hate the concepts within 40K... You/We are asking vegetarians to operate an abattoir...
The DEI department of amazon wanted to insert woke into the show/script so Cavil kept rejecting it.
most Warhammer writing is pretty dire
Many of the GW writers are very very woke. DEI orks anyone?
The thing is, this is ideologically driven. To admit they were wrong is to admit their entire world view is wrong. This is why there will be no change without collapse. The ESG incentives are too strong for the companies to course correct if their own accord.
Alll I say is, enjoy the fire, and await the companies that form out of the ashes.
These companies are getting too comfortable with all their money, they are all becoming allergic to success, it's hilarious.
We need to NOT fall into the trap of letting them label everything. What's around the corner is NOT a "games crash". A "games crash" implies that natural market forces have caused a downturn. That's NOT what's happening. We are in a MASSIVE BOYCOTT.
That's right, the loss of profits in gaming right now all stem from US BOYCOTTING THEM. And they REFUSE to admit that.
what do you mean, letting them? what are you going to do about it?
What he just did INFORM people to change the lexicon just like Nerdrodic forced "them" to finally accept the universally fan adopted MSheU
It's not even a boycott. Smaller companies are just making better games.
@@BastiatC but the reason they CAN make better games is they aren't beholden to woke investors or staff
@kyeda but they can and do.....thats fact look at Concord and look at SM2, it's math sorry......look what theh are changing in AC due to fan backlash, the winds are changing we just need to keep the pressure up another few years and reward the puppies that poop on the pad and punish the ones that piss on the carpet a couple more years and we will break their spine.....
Nothing Woke is making money right now
Better it be canceled than made another woke trash vanity project.
Define woke
@@spacejesus570
Sure; pretending to be holier than thou
Placing a characters sexuality on the forefront of said characters personality
Placing ideology in front of plot
Wouldn’t be as bad as they had decent writing and made it feel more natural
I’m a better writer than most of these dorks, don’t believe me? Check this out
The female custodes;
Fans: “wtf when this happen”
Writer: “always has been”🤓👆🏾
Me: “the female custodes was created to integrate a custodes and a silent sister genes to make for smaller/stealthier squads”
Super simple, and objectively better
“Woke” isn’t inherently bad, it’s forced woke that is bad. And lately it’s all be forced woke just for the sake of being woke and if you disagree you’re just being disingenuous.
@@taylorbrooks1700 damn, folks like you are lost.
We're never gonna see Henry Cavill in a lead role again lol
Nhaaa, give them time, people that want to gain money would hire him.
Also if Amazon buy the rights to 40k, they would have to hire him, if not the bad Will of the community Will essentially kill any project they pull out, as Bad will always kill expectation and Amazon shows depend of expectations.
You mean like in "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare" or "Argylle"? And these are just from this year...
Given the reaction to his cameo as Wolverine, if he's not cast in that role or any other for Marvel then they're just leaving money on the table.
@@Rogue-a-Pogue yes, for the sole purpose and deciding factor for taking a role or not is the money on the table, right?... And Marvel is the the be-all and end-all of the acting world...
Which decade was exactly the last Marvel film that was good and not related to Deadpool... surely not this one, and arguably not even the last one... the Deadpool series is much more indie than Marvel, that's why I'm not counting them.
@@andraskovacs8959 I was speaking from the point of view of Marvel. Marvel needs someone the general public cares more about like Cavill more than Cavill needs them. They're lacking in bankable stars right now, which is why they had to go back to the well with RDJ. Not that I'd say Cavill is particularly bankable but the recent Deadpool appearance should generate a lot more enthusiasm for any superhero project he's attached to.
And at this rate, we'll likely only see a Warhammer movie if Cavill is willing to finance it (or at least a preview like the original Deadpool leak) himself. Would he be willing to take high-paying but low quality parts to do it though? That's the question.
Honestly, who was actually expecting this 40K show to actually be created and released? There was no chance of that whatsoever...
I had my doubts from the start
I think we will get a Warhammer show eventually, I don’t think it’s impossible. If it’s good or not is a whole different story, Warhammer is just anti Hollywood, extremely violent and gory, doesn’t meet their diversity quota, and contains lots of religious imagery. A lot of things that makes Warhammer Warhammer the Hollywood execs hate
Well it's anti Hollywood executives cause GOT was gritty and gory and lude and went wild
I.
I also think winds are changing they have lost billions pushing females where they don't belong ( guess what the rock cast as Barbie prime instead of Margo also would have lost money ) and the summer of pale n stale has absolutely showed them where the money 💰 is period over and over and over.....they are starting to get it
It’s impossible to inject a moral/political agenda into Warhammer 40k without absolutely destroying it. Which is I think the reason the shows production is going nowhere. Amazon desperately wants to use 40k to virtue signal but they also don’t want it to end up like Rings of power, they cant have both
Maybe a less DEI focused studio will pick up the ball and run with it.
DEI = Didn't Earn It.
I dont think a non dei focused studio exists. At least not one who has a budget for a warhammer show
@@obesebirdnot now but times are changing. Give it a few years and the entertainment industry will be mostly sane again.
Get Japan to make an anime out of it.
Japan will not do western favor.... only Japanese is worthy to Sony Playstation
@@Crazy4monkey117 they did the Batman Ninja anime and the Rick and Morty anime. So I think they could do it.
It doesn't even need to be a Japanese production, just needs some money and talent behind it to make a good animated series/film
40k is big in japan too @@Crazy4monkey117
@@nicholase82 oh
Its baffling how incompetent current AAA developers can be, overscoping is one of the first thinks you learn not to do in software development, It's a problem expected on Indy projects, yet it happen on AAA with millions in line.
Just because they are okay with Henry Cavill's live action series dying doesn't mean they won't make one without him. It's going to be shit
They can't, Game's workshop won't give them the rights without Henry's go ahead
@@malfisto6884 Praise the Emperor for that
Imagine hideo kojima for his mastery of twists and respect to timelines,Guillermo del Toro for his artistic style and unique creature designs, and Henry cavill for both his love of Warhammer and as it's lore keeper working together on a potential Warhammer series or even just a single film?
This has 0 legitimate sources it's just gossip
Henry Cavill should just try and do it himself at this point. Work with some smaller studio or start his own studio and get funding and investment from fans and content creators to get it started. WH40k is at an all time high in popularity right now with the success of Space Marine II so now would be the best time for it. Assuming GW lets him use the IP.
That's a great idea, I'd contribute to see it done.
After seeing the huge success of space marine 2 it's obvious there's a LOOOOT of money to be made with this franchise.
If somebody else gets to pick up Henry's 40k I sincerely hope we get to see Amazon regret their decision.
I see this thumbnail every damn week! I’ll wait for official news
Putting down the Demoncules before any heresy can be performed
They know that they cannot make their own BS story with warhammer because too many people know too much about the lore. So They said fuck it and dropped it.
Its what they should've done with RoP
Source: bro, trust me.
Female Space Marines... thats Heresy.
Actually there is a reason for it
The whole process of making a female space marine is costly. You’ve most likely just have a single quality squad after like twice the amount of female children dying.
With the boys there’s a plentiful amount of them to die. It’s better for the boys to go through the trials of even becoming a neophyte
3:04 "over 40 streaming services" ...and then they wonder why piracy is on the rise again...
Source is not reliable. Archcast?! No
I feel like they'll drop Henry and make their own bad DEI show which won't sell.
Thank God Games Workshop is standing their ground, and not letting Warhammer 40K be run through the Amazon wood chipper. If Amazon can destroy Tolkien, i shudder to think what they would do to 40k.
Amazon and GW haven't even finalised the contracts (as both parties announced back in December they have till the end of this year to come to terms and sign off on it) so nothing is scrapped since nothing has even happened yet
I think Amazon underestimated how big of an franchise Warhammer and with it Games Workshop as an company already is and with that negoatiation about their aganeda is a hell lot more difficult at that point. It backfired on them so hard.
Amazon would not do it well , they would make it for a modern audience not the real audience. Just look at rings of power , Netflix’s Witcher and Disney killing Star Wars
Henry’s to real for Hollywood
If Netflix picks up the Warhammer show that would be pretty dope i dont think amazon understands how dedicated warhammer fans can be
Netflix isnt much better in terms of shoving inclusion in where it isnt needed but Edgerunners turned out good so they could make Warhammer work
@@xSyn_ i think they will do it justice compared to other companies. I dint think hulu would give it enough support and disney is out the window or they will let Kathleen Kennedy ruin it
"I think they will do ot justice" The Witcher fans would STRONGLY disagree.. wakey wakey
Henry Cavill just needs to open his own studio that stays faithful to IP franchises.
I think a lot of modern games need to go back to basics. Like I remember this Mad Max open-world sandbox game a few years ago where you hunt for fuel, attack hostile bases that have puzzle elements, and tie everything together you have your driving rig that you slowly enhance over time. It did a great job of making you feel like a survivor in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. It was a simple, by-the-numbers design, but it was done so well that was enough to carry it. Games these days act like they need to constantly reinvent the wheel, which is dead wrong.
Amazon murdered the Wheel of Time also. Heretical nonsense.
He probably said the only way this gets done is by using the source material and they freaked out because they couldn't push their agendas into an already established IP.
Whatever, their loss, Cavil gave them every opportunity possible and they threw them all out the window.
(1:09) this news came out last month. I wasted my time again.
thanks rando, saved my time
So tired of constant tirade of rumour videos not even breaking new rumours but spinning click bait titles as if they are
if its canceled its amazons own Falt billon Doller company cant follow a simple script
Aren’t there literally a group of bad ass woman in war hammer? The nuns or something like that?
Yeah the sisters of battle are hardcore. When they think they've messed up in their faith, they shave their head and go into battle with nothing but a robe and a big f'in sword.
There are plenty of bad ass women in 40k. Lotara Sarrin, the admiral of the world eaters fleet, is only of the only humans to ever stand up to Angron and live. She is a certified bad ass.
There's two in the Imperium alone. You've got the Sisters of Battle who are your space nuns, and you've got the Sisters of Silence who are anti psyker specialists who often work with the Custodes. Not to mention all the female guardsmen, commissars, techpriests, etc.
Saber is legit. They've been pumping out free content for their WWZ game since forever and it's a multiple year old game (they just released a new Extinction mode for that just recently, after Space Marine launch) and have released a patch for Evil Dead, also just recently. So with the major success of Space Marines, they've still not neglected their old titles b/c ppl still playing those games. Again this shit is free content in terms of wwz other than the paid Arizona DLC (but that's an entire three new maps, new characters (voice lines and etc) and other stuff that you actually get something out of other than being nickel and dimed to death like EA/Ubisoft and bigger studio's.
First off, you should stay a mile away from amazon and Disney.
I am shocked.
Shocked.
Well not that shocked.
Jennifer Salke is the problem.
Blackrock investors turned GW into their pets. Hence female Custodes.
So wait, literal decades of lore and story content, and they can't find something to adapt?
More like once people shot down the DEI femstodes idea amazon realised they would have to actually make something that wouldn't be DEI friendly enough to increase their ESG score so decided to back out
I feel sorry for anyone who actually believes this fabricated narrative. If you’re reading this, it’s not too late to click off the video and critically examine your beliefs.
Let me guess Henry was being a HUGE pain in the ass , fighting every decision they made about the story and characters ! Probably things like female custodies , female space marines, gay space marines ,space marine romances be they hetro or gay . Stuff like that I expect. I bet someone put up the idea of a chaos and loyalist space marine romance . Can love conquer all even warp spawn deamons
Imagine the crap they had in mind for him to drop his dream ! He wants to work on a Warhammer project so bad.
@@TheReaLcatniP for sure he,s either the best asset ever for a show like this or the worst just depending on how faithful the dire tor or producers want to be . But that's the problem with modern Hollywood being faithful to the original I p isn't something they believe in. In fact it's far from it they make it for the mythical modern audience the one that's yet to support one of their projects like the Star wars shows they keep churning out
@@ErmIDK19 WH40K is slowly getting into mainstream right now, but with Cavill you're pretty sure to make it very visible and successfull because it will respect the fans and women will turn out to watch it as well. These studios don't want to make money I guess.
France still thinks this is happening. 😂
Paramount seems to be the only studio not forcing DEI woke BS on all their projects, the big boss says he's woke but they make South park now and are bringing back King of the hill so???
So where’s the actual proof instead of relying on a UA-camr?
I would rather it Die than fuck it up. Cheers to Games Workshop and Henry Cavill for putting their foot down. We already have 100s of books, I can wait.
lets be honest. it's way better that they scrapped it than what they were going to put out.
Dan Abnett wrote Ultramarine he'd be perfect to write the amazon project.
Honestly, with the way modern Hollywood is, good.
Ok, cancelt my Amazon Prime account.
Dude it's like megacorps are allergic to making good decisions nowadays. They have a figurative money making machine with Hendry Cavill doing 40k, which would also blow up 40k with more heat than the big bang and yet again megacorp just shits the bed.
I think the best way they could introduce a 40k show would be a 'love death and robots' style show.
Lots of short stories that flit and span the difference races (HERESY) and lives of the people in this setting.
From hive world sump to craft world, front line guardsman to civilians trying to survive a chaos/Nid invasion.
40k is so vast and lore rich I think this would be the best way to expose newcomers to as much of the setting as possible.
From Warhammer to Voltron. I will accept this correction by the Universe. Lions, unite!
I'm glad Amazon didn't get WH40k TV media. Someone else will come along eventually, hopefully after this stick-modern-politics-into-everything era is over.
Except this era has lasted for about 20 years and doesn't seem like it will end any time soon. =(
It's pretty hard to F up 40k unless you're trying.
It's the most popcorn of popcorn mindless entertainment you could hope for.
80s action movies did this easily.
It has its philosophical moments, but it's really quite straightforward to write for sure.
How to do a good 40K series.
1. Build the series around a newly minted Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Maybe use Inquisitor Valeria from Dawn of War 2.
2. Build each season around dealing with a different conflict in the 40K universe with occasional sprinkling of chaos influences throughout.
3. Profit.
Thank you Amazon, you left us with female custodes. What a legacy!
There's just no way you could let Amazon take over this franchise. They would completely ruin it financially and open the warp to flood our universe with the dark forces of chaos.
It's scrapped AGAIN? How many times already?
Probably wasn't queer enough for them. Keep pushing fools and you will keep losing ground.
That's facts. Been playing my library and I'm having a BLAST lol played the Splinter cell series and now I'm up to Blacklist once I'm done I'll be trying out the Max Payne series. KEEP GOING UBIWOKE, BIOWOKE, WOKESTEADY. KEEP PUSHING US AWAY. OUR WALLETS ARE GROWING 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Honestly, this is probably for the best. After what they have done with Rings of Power and how they bastardized Tolkien’s lore. Amazon would have tried to do the same and end up turning it into Star Wars when 40k is far from that. Glad it's been scrapped, but it does suck that Henry Cavill has yet again been shortchanged from a proper adaptation.
If true, then fine. It’s better being upset for its cancellation than being disappointed a deeply flawed product
I'm surprised people still think they care about making money out of all these millions they willingly spent.
It's like these companies all listen to people who like to chime in with their opinion on things but they never listen to the people who actually spend money🤑🤑🤑🤑
Im playing Morrowind right now. Im trying to imagine a game like this with updated graphics, modern combat. Maybe with larian style dialog. Man it would be so good
No scripts written, you mean there was nothing decent by one of the fans maybe? At all, there's a background and universe what's the problem 🤔 ... nothing from The Message, besides the new female whatevers🙄
Aye I don’t really care if it gets scrapped I don’t wanna have another thing like the halo TV show 🤮
Thank god Dude has already destroyed 3 franchises lets not give'Em a 4th
I was really hoping for a visual show on the horus heresy, the same way Disney screwed up in not doing the Thrawn trilogy in stead of the poor skywalker crap
Might be an opportunity for Henry and GW to now approach the series to HBO instead
The show has not been cancelled, the share price is still very healthy, if it drops more than 10% in a day, it will be because it is cancelled, it hasn`t...yet!
Mass Effect MP did what you said way before Overwatch did
strange that they didn't just start with the Horus Heresy trilogy and move from there... adaptation might not be easy, but the story is sound at least.
I keep listening to Luetin's 2nd Emperor video, it's quite a good story. Oh imagine what could be !
I don't want to watch a warhammer movie/tv show done by Amazon. After the RoP, I'm not even willing to give it a go.
its crazy, i think I'm like a lot of people and if Henry Cavill gets kicked off of the WarHammer show for wanting to keep the lore and world true to the source material even though i know next to nothing about the lore, i will lose all interest in supporting it going forward
It's the great irony of our time that we are at a point where the technology in effects etc is at the best point ever to bring to life so many beloved IPs, but writers and studios are determined to change them...
you cant make this up, they have an IP with a humongous built in fanbase, a metric shitton of lore and have Henry Cavill as posterboy, who is known to not only be super into 40k and the lore, but also painstakingly meticulous about anything lorewise. they have a lot of great options to put in their DEI requirements, not by token or genderswapping, on top of my head there are the salamanders (i mean, black space marines that are praised because their self-imposed duty is to protect not only the imperium at large but also its citizens, its civillians, could there be a more favourable way to portrait POC in this series?), the sister sororitas and ofc the guard, a lot of badass characters from all over the galaxy and they are like "no no no, lets genderswap some of them and call it a day", that is just either lazy or very very stupid. they could be shooting fish in a barrel but these brainiacs wet the ammunition - the emperor distastes
Imagine if Elon Musk helped Henry
X will eventually branch into programming. Elon's goal is for X to be the one stop platform for everything.
@@johnd2946 I mean Elon likes space, cyber, alien things which relates to warhammer 40k. Who knows a random warhammer design might inspire Elon's next project.
Elon Musk+Daily Wire studios..
Basing everything off rumors. Amazing modern day Nostradamus.
Dissapointing as the current situation is, i'd rather this project go nowhere than them spew out hot garbage that would deter make making a good live action at a later date.
As a fellow scribe reading the 30k books I can tell you there are a lot of strong recurring female Humans, not sacrificial pawns (Space Marines) that would make great characters in the movies were they to be during the Horus Herecy likeEuphrati Keeler, Mersadie Oliton, Erda, Ilya Ravallion and more. they don't have to be Space marines to matter, if Amazon knew how harsh the reality of the role the space marines play they would not wish the women for it. and GW needs to tell there partners about this, the black library authors know how amazing this universe is for both genders and that its not only about the UltraSmurfs!
P.S - VULKAN LIVES!
No Warhammer show please. Sm2 has brought enough tourists in, don't need anymore.
the female custodes made me realize there's bad actors on all sides. while i was originally against them for lore reasons, i dropped to neutral after spending some time in the comment sections related to that choice. half the fandom had legit complaints about geneseed, but the other half just got really sexist about it. guys can we defend the lore without being incels about it?