The Best Backpacking Stoves, Tested in Cold Wind
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
- In this video, Adventure Alan overviews the best backpacking stoves, explains how he tested them, and highlights his favorite system. Read more about these stoves in our comprehensive stove buyer's guide: www.adventurealan.com/best-ba...
FrankenStove - the most efficient stove system possible - combines the Jetboil Stash Pot with MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe burner for optimal performance in all conditions. Learn more about SuperStoves such as FrankenStove: www.adventurealan.com/superst...
Safety Warning: Modifying the Jetboil Stash Pot or using it with any other burner is considered hazardous, voids the warranty, risks product damage due to overheating, and may result in personal injury. Anyone using the Stash Pot in any way other than exactly as intended by Jetboil acknowledges the risks they are taking, and is wholly responsible for their own actions and safety. See Jetboil Stash User Manual For more info on safe and proper handling.
Thanks for watching!
Hey Allan thanks for doing this deep dive
So glad to see you posting again! I really value your opinions on outdoor gear!
Thanks for saying!
A wider pot base and a windscreen is all that matters... Tall pots always boil slower than a wide diameter pot with the same amount of water in it. This is why nobody tries to boil water in their metal drink flask, and instead, they boil the water in a pot and then transfer it to the bottle. Surface area is critical. The more the better (within reason).
Agreed. Simply using a wind screen on most of the these stove/pot combos will increase efficiency by 1000%.
Besides, under freezing conditions I always take my liquid fuel stove.
Fire maple FMC X6 750ml pot, plus your favoured burner. Cost effective.😊
Agreed with wider pots. Always prefer that when we can get it. Some folks have been draping short micro wind screen skirts from their stove arms which seems like an interesting idea, but you have to be careful about full wind screens containing heat around the fuel canister - this can be very dangerous and all manufacturers warn against doing so.
@@adventure_alan_co of course, you should never fully enclose the canister
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Thank you for doing this. There are many reasons to buy a system - cost, performance, versatility, etc. If this is about time to boil water in cold and wind, please try the MSR windburner. It should be at the top of the list given those conditions are what it was designed for. Also, the MSR deluxe burner is a design copy of the Soto Windmaster, not the other way around.
Thanks for watching! In our experience and testing, MSR PRD + a heat exchanger pot is more efficient than Windburner system, which is also heavier and more expensive. MSR PRD did iterate on SWM design, not suggesting otherwise. We simply prefer the MSR iteration.
Just bought the soto windmaster from REI - 20% off for members so got it for $55 and free shipping! I had rewards that are now online and so it was essentially free - bought the Olicamp heat exchange pot for $32 plus tax and free shipping on Amazon - so the whole thing for $87 plus about 6 or 7 bucks for the canister so about $93 for everything - Thanks for your ratings - saved me a lot of time
Nothing comes close to Soto WindMaster + Olicamp in terms of value. Hope ya dig it!
I’ve been totally happy with my Jetboil flash year round.
We had trouble keeping it lit in Alan's 35F, 5mph wind test. The flame kept blowing out.
Great reviews....very helpful!
Thanks!
I have the last stove it's perfect it fits perfect in my dualist
I’m surprised Bulin remote canister stoves don’t get compared in these line ups - at a lower price point they offer similar systems to that MSR reactor & jetboil with faster boil times.
And safer being lower to the ground (with remote system).
Soto came out with the regulars many years ago. Put canisters in a fish aquarium with water, then add ice and see with one burns with high flame. Soto!
Love the comparisons! My only two cents is that the Soto Windmaster with the tri-flex is the lowest weight for the best performance. The pocket rocket deluxe is a copycat made by MSR to compete with the Windmaster, but its igniter is less reliable and it weighs significantly more than the Windmaster (when paired with the tri-flex). The Windmaster’s igniter never ever fails, it’s like magic, I don’t know how they do it.
To each their own and we get it on the weight saving. Alan and I both prefer the MSR PRD for being less fiddly and better balanced than triflex arms, regardless of whether or not the burner unit on the whole is an iterative copy design. We view the quality of the pietzo ignitor as largely inconsequential. PRD's ignitor seems fine and works well enough in our backcountry use. Even if SWM's ignitor is better, that's not a key feature to evaluate based on, and we still have a lighter as backup anyway.
Jetboil mightymo £40, firemapel petrel hx pot £20 with a wrap of foil as wind shield wrapped around pot with a bottom overlap, poke 3 holes for excess pot stand £0. That's my frankenstove👍🏻
Love the hacking! We excluded MightyMo, since it's like MSR PRD and SWM, only without a concave/cupper burner head.
You left out the best Jetboil! The jet boil Mighty mo, is the same stove as the pocket rocket deluxe for $15 less.
There's a distinct difference in that MightyMo does not have a cupper/concave burner head, which drastically decreases its performance in wind.
And what about multi fuel?
$25 Fire Maple FMC X6 750ml pot, plus your favoured burner. Cost effective.😊
Fire Maple is on our radar, we'll be testing the Petrel this spring! Looking at the Firemaple site, they are only selling a 1000ml version (which we definitely like, and which identical to the Olicamp)
Did I miss the results somewhere? I watched, rewound and watched again and was hoping for some actual data.
You can view graphs with test results by clicking through to our stove buyer's guide.
What about MSR WINDBURNER?
Heavier, and slower to boil, less fuel efficient
@@adventure_alan_cothe windburner being heavier is a valid point, but it boils ridiculously fast and is much more fuel efficient than any jetboil because of its wind performance.
Optimus Crux Weekend HE is very similar to the Jetboil Stash at about half the price.
Haven't tried that one! Thanks for the tip. It does look Stash-like. First impressions are the burner unit looks a cut below MSR PRD and SWM, but similar to Stash. Don't love a frypan lid, but you could of course fashion a foil lid of your own to replace. Interesting...
All use expensive gas cartridges. I've gone back to a Coleman petrol stove.
You've got a major flaw with your methods. You didn't control for gas canister size. The smaller canisters are going to get cold faster, and that is going to affect the efficiency to a higher degree, especially in the stoves without regulators. You should use all the same kinds of gas in the same size can with the same amount of gas in each can to control for those three variables. The level of gas in a canister can also have a large effect. Unfortunately, your data here is not good because you have way too many variables.
Thanks for your feedback. The testing was conducted with the same 16 oz canisters as seen around the 7 minute mark in the video. The mixed canisters you're seeing in the intro are just for show.
Well I think a white gas stove is certainly the best in very cold conditions. Not to mention it's more environmentally friendly without all those throw away fuel canisters.
This video is not intended to address extreme cold weather cooking.
The best backpacking stove? Snow Peak Giga Auto wins in my book.
There's a lot like about that stove, but not having a cupped burner head is a big knock against it.
Some people like to waste their money on over priced MSR
While the Soto Windmaster is a slightly better value than MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe, to call PRD a waste of money is hyperbole. PRD is the best burner we've ever used, and our current go-to based on performance and user-friendliness.
Why didn't you have a MSR Windburner, a excellent stove in both wind and cold.
MSR Windburner is really good (though we have a slight preference towards Jetboil MiniMo - a very similar stove), but the bar is higher now than either of them. SuperStoves like FrankenStove are lighter, boil faster, and more fuel efficient.