Axial SCX10 II china clone (reviewing the Austar chassis)
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- I picked up one of these cheap Axial scx10 ii knock offs I have been seeing on ebay. They are called a Austar or Injora 313mm chassis. I was curious on the differentials and transmission gears if they were all plastic. Join me as I disassemble it and see what we find!
For anyone interested in buying these. Yes, they are worth it. Only horrible thing on it are the stock shocks but otherwise thryve worked great. Never missed a beat. People treat crawler transmissions as if thry are 8s xmaxx transmissions. Hell most run just a small brushed motor. It isnt going to strip. And i have extremely heavy rigs as all the bodies are 3d printed with functioning canopies and all to the point where they make the stock stiff shocks too soft on full compression. People shit on them purely because of the price. And if a part breaks, just chuck a scx10 version in and give it a upgrade. The crawling community has become way too snobby
How would it handle a pre runner build? I’m thinking of using one for twin I beam conversion and swapping in a brushless sidewinder 3 setup. RWD only. Would it handle it do you think?
@@icebox829 I mean I can tell you the trans will most definitely not hold up. But the diffs and everything will. With some better suspension and a cheap all metal trans it's like any other scx 10 and far cheaper
@@keqrou yeah that’s a good point
Not really had a problem with mine and it's been run hard. Still running those kit shocks too.
Nice
Are the kit shocks good?
@@CS-qk2dj from what ive seen they are good shocks but they dont come with oil
This chassis is really cheap like only 70 right now, if i wanted to buy it just as a basher because its so cheap and not do any crawling would it be fine stock? Thank you!
In regards to the negative caster, I compared the front differential housing to a real AR44, they are identical. The caster issue is due to the links being an improper lenght. The axle that came with this kit has almost no play but missing the output bearings for the CV axles. Plastic gears in the trans was disappointing. Overall not bad but not for $120 taxed / shipped (this one came with knockoff Hyrax)...or $100. More like $50. The DS were literally Loctited in place, had to use heat to remove them along with the set screws.
EDIT: Forgot about the shocks, holds oil just fine but gritty and clunky. Can be used for mock ups. Not totally garbage IMHO...though I personally wouldn't use them.
Close your eyes while watching this video and this guy sounds just like hank hill from the cartoon king of the hill
thanks for doing this video, Ive been debating on buying those austar chassis to build off of to save some money.
No problem!
Zach Wittrock Same here, thank you
Has some issues, but it all seems to be things that people replace with after market parts anyway.
The biggest issue is that gearbox. But again, something you'd upgrade on the real one anyway 😅
Remo hobby 1093 is a way better starting platform. Good oil shocks, all metal gears, metal links, redcat Everest axles, 550 motor. Way better than this one.
Thanks, I will take a look! Anything is better than this one!
I bought this 1yr ago at 100 bucks it's not to bad the only thing I replaced on mine is the drive shaft broke and the shocks made them internal, now it's what all the kids drive instead of my good ones.not Worth putting money into it. Buy the RedCat's Gen 8 Pak chassis way better
The bearing on knuckle.are there is same on axle axial scx10ii
Very detailed and informative. Thanks a lot
Lol I bought one of these and the only thing I didn’t replace was the frame. Everything else I tossed in the trash
Most likely the tires are made in the same factory
yeah i bought one one of these on amazon and i got it working so now im making a body for it out of cardboard and the body looks awesome
In the Axles, there's a big fundamental difference....
Axial uses Helical Cut Diff Gears and a high Pinion. These have Straight Cut Gears, and the Pinion Gear is Centered!! It's just a small version of the SCX10 One Axles! 😖
I would actually get one - but replace the whole Transmission. I'm a Disabled Veteran, and just can't really afford much of anything! 😞 Haven't been able to get a new Rig in over 6 years. Can't even afford this, but I've got enough spare parts to make it work....
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Yes, I was disappointed with the axles, tranny, oversized links, and no track bar. I know you get what you pay for, but I was hoping for a little more.
Definitely earned my subscription!!!
They increased the price of this chassis. I got mine for $150. Basically following your build of the chassis. Doing the track bar setup like you did.
SCX10 shock hoops
Plastic in diffs, no thank you
I just got it too use in the creeks so we will see how she goes 200aud from ail Express, the axial kit version is 500aud crazy I know !
My shocks are quite good unless they have changed/upgraded.. I'm like you I was curious to see what it was like for £76.. I wish it would have come with body posts..
Panhard bar
This video made me cancel my order.
Why v
I noticed the panhard mount on the axle is on the other side than the Axial and the steering link is also on the wrong side... I typically don't take a chance with these Chinese knockoffs. It seems that its always better to just support the real deal companies and enjoy a well built product. Good luck with it.
axles are not the same, internals are competely different
Yes, when I take them apart in the video I go over that.
Mine has a 13 tooth pinion, I replaced the shocks with Redcat Volcano shocks. To get rid of bump steer put servo arm perpendicular to chassis.
I fix it in the next video.
I saw these on eBay a little while ago and it looked like a clone to my untrained eye , I'm rough on anything with 4 wheels and love to modify with steel as well haha , I'm so glad you posted this thank you so much
No problem!
Îúú Loki
It’s got 4 link up front so no need for a panhard I thought?
4 link only works if the servo is mounted on the axle. A 3 link and a panhard = no bump steer. This is why a new scx10 ii comes with a 3 link up front. I fix it and explain it in the next video.
the donor axle is a scx 10.. its not from a scx10 2 wtf??
These kit is ok I bought it for 70$ just throw those axles away asap. The metal on the cvd is junk easily snap. I glued an scx10 chinese cvd and this cvd on the same axle and it broke easily
I agree and I did toss mine
road test sir
Hi mate! Thanks for the video. How to make front wheels straight up? They not perfectly vertical ( Need some mod i guess.?
It was helpful. I have subscribed to the channel.
Which shocks you suggest for this chassis? Not expensive, maybe from Ali Express?
A factory set of Axial shocks would do just fine. About 15 to 20 for a set off of ebay.
Very good video .. I like it.!
Think that the axial axles would fit in the clone causing?
Amazing video.. what is the hole to hole length of the shocks here ? Planning to replace with oil adjustable ones
They were 95mm I think. I tossed them and went with RC4WD King Shocks
Thanks for the in depth video Was looking at a few of those🙂
The other videos I watched wasnt telling me the info I needed, so I bought one to take apart and get answers! Lol
@@oddsandendsrc I know what u mean I really appreciate you doing an in depth review👍
7 months on, mine is ready for a rebuild after only a few runs, front axle needs replacing - everything is loose, ends may fall off at any moment 😂
Center drive shafts fall apart.
Shock towers are brittle.
Shocks are rough as.
Stock rims are flimsy.
If i could do it all over again, i would have gotten the Axial SCX10 ii builder's kit instead 😅
In newer videos, I replaced every single part on mine, the frame rails are the only Austar part left!
@@oddsandendsrc yeah, its a shame, i had high hopes for it 😅
Awesome vid bro great name to your channel lol i work for odds and ends concrete 👍🏻💯
Thanks!
Nice video. Did i heard it right 38t gear on the differential?
Is it hard to build a whole rc truck?
Axle servo instead of panhard
Yes, if you install an axle mounted servo, you can leave it a 4-link in front
Could these axles be swapped out with real axial ones without a prob
Yes, I do it in a newer video
Thanks for the video man! I was just about to buy this then I seen this so thanks man
No problem!
Cool thorough comparison and review👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
@@oddsandendsrc 🙂
Thank you. This is really a great comparison and review. I pulled the trigger on one of these to try out. It seems like it is very cheap plastic...so really curious on how it holds out.
I turn mine into a Jeep in newer videos. The only Austar parts left are the frame rails!
@@oddsandendsrc Yes. This is definitely not a basher. I think it would be ok as a trail RC. I plan to work on a budget Jeep mostly for shelf display. Hope it doesn't fall apart..lol.
Soo how is it?
Thank you for saving me money
No problem!
my shocks didn't come with oil in them.
After I filled mine and sat it on the shelf, 3 of them leaked out everywhere! In the trash they went!
Whats your virdict after playing it sir,, do you ever play it? i like to give it a shot.,
I only ran it for 10 minutes or so, I didn't break anything but the shocks were horrible. It had bad bump steer before I added a panhard setup. All the oil leaked out of 3 of the shocks when it sat on the shelf. I have been upgrading everything in newer videos, the only Austar part left is the frame rails! Lol
@@oddsandendsrc it look like a pass.. i might not get it afterall
Did it come with a parts manual?
No, manual, no box, no extra parts. Comes in the shipping box and thats it!
Will the scx10 2 axels bolt to it? Thanks
Yes, they will bolt right up!
Did it have a metal locker in the did?
It was half plastic if i remember right, i show it in the video but i didnt take the gear off of it.
@@oddsandendsrc ok. I was wondering if it had a metal locker in it like the first scx10 or plastic like the redcat Everest 10
@@brianlongto866 I just looked and its an aluminum locker inside of a plastic housing. The ring gear screws to the plastic housing with 4 tiny phillips head screws. The axles fit loosely inside the locker. Not a good setup at all!
@@oddsandendsrc thank you for taking your time to check for me it's very appreciated. If I throw a scx10 skid and transmission I have already do you think it would be worth it for a 7 year old
@@oddsandendsrc also the dif gear didnt fit in the axial housing but what about the axial gears fittings in the china housing
Thanks for this video, exactly what I have been looking for. You have convinced me that these are better off avoided. I have been considering one for a while now but I think I'll go for the Axial raw kit. Thanks !
Good choice!
I have had 10 now. Just new suspension and a bump steer bar ans it goes well
You don’t need to add a track bar when it’s already got a 4 link front end. They did it that way on purpose. They didn’t forget it.
If it has a chassis mounted servo with no track bar, it will have bump steer, like this has. If it has a axle mounted servo, a 4 link is ok and it wont have bump steer. To work correctly, it needs a 3 link front with a track bar, like a scx10 ii. I will be doing a upcoming video on adding the track bar.
@@oddsandendsrc Not really, it's in the geometry no matter if it is 3 or 4 link, drag link,tie rod, caster angle, etc. all have to work together to work correctly !!
Just picked one of these up. Put some shock oil in and the shocks don’t move! There’s no hole in the piston!
I put 35w shock oil in mine and they barely move!
by clone does it mean i can tune it with orginal SCX10 parts ? like for example full metal axles ?
It will accept the original scx10 parts and scx10 ii parts.
@@oddsandendsrc cool thank you