Why Did The Jedi Order HATE Revan after KOTOR...?

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    Despite saving them Revan was rather hated amongst the higher ranking members of the Jedi
    Order after KOTOR... but why?
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  • @100StarWars
    @100StarWars  Місяць тому +44

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    • @fafnir97
      @fafnir97 Місяць тому +4

      We sure do live in harmony, but not the kind you would expect! It's the harmony of knowing your beloved nerd cultures got subverted and destroyed by those who don't understand what the IPs are about and don't want us to have nice things..

    • @donewhiskey
      @donewhiskey Місяць тому +2

      @@fafnir97 Just let people enjoy new things. You can still have your old things.

    • @majesticmsfc
      @majesticmsfc Місяць тому

      @@fafnir97 Unfortunately for the most part you are correct

    • @ajzebadua
      @ajzebadua Місяць тому +1

      Love them both, live long and may the Force be with you.

  • @ZorroTheWevile
    @ZorroTheWevile Місяць тому +231

    The Council wouldn't know the meaning of humble if it came out of hyperspace and ate their souls 💀

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +24

      💀

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 Місяць тому +14

      True and it seems the prequel era Jedi council never learned to be humble either

    • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
      @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 Місяць тому +8

      Facts , it’s not in their nature ✅

    • @raijyn2452
      @raijyn2452 Місяць тому +9

      And yet, they claim humility to be part of their doctrine

    • @aisnota5192
      @aisnota5192 Місяць тому +4

      Funny that you mention that.....

  • @TheCHEESEG
    @TheCHEESEG Місяць тому +151

    I love Jolee's quote about love, Revan proved the council was wrong about love by turning Bastilla back to the light. "Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that's what they should teach you to beware. But love, itself, will save you... not condemn you."

    • @klaykid117
      @klaykid117 Місяць тому +14

      That's also exactly how Luke turned Darth Vader back to the light. Pure love not possessive obsession like Anakin had for padame.

    • @matthewchristian9591
      @matthewchristian9591 29 днів тому +3

      ​@klaykid117 which is what Luke taught his jedi students in the ledgends continuity.

    • @painstation948
      @painstation948 22 дні тому +1

      Toff may be Blind but they out here speaking facts as if they saw the future

    • @majinjason
      @majinjason 22 дні тому +1

      Anakin told that to Padme in the prequels

  • @kevinnorwood8782
    @kevinnorwood8782 Місяць тому +55

    Of course the Jedi saw Revan as a heretic: He kept seeing through their dogmatism and proving their flawed beliefs wrong time and time again. Revan deserved a FAR better ending than the one he got.

  • @Spartan3D213
    @Spartan3D213 Місяць тому +41

    Kreia: "He has brought truth, and you condemn it? The arrogance!"

    • @aarroncannon1590
      @aarroncannon1590 29 днів тому +5

      I'm surprised that nobody has used that quote as a Meme.

    • @Spartan3D213
      @Spartan3D213 29 днів тому +3

      @aarroncannon1590 same here, especially when you play male Exile and she has a harsher tone with this line.

    • @sanantonio210x
      @sanantonio210x 17 днів тому +2

      Kreia is one of the greatest jedi characters in the Star Wars universe. Brilliant writing.

    • @Aqueox
      @Aqueox 14 днів тому +2

      @@aarroncannon1590Go forth, my young memers, and bring memes to the Empire.

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo Місяць тому +64

    They hated Revan (and Bastila to a lesser extent) for proving that love can actually save people from the dark side instead of pushing them towards it. Or at least that was part of it.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +7

      It was more fear than anything else. Revan failed to destroy the Jedi in war, but he might do so with philosophy. That is how the first Jedi civil war began, leading to the formation of the Sith.

    • @alexanderrahl7034
      @alexanderrahl7034 24 дні тому +1

      I think it _was_ fear, but not like that.
      I think it was fear that only certain people would be able to handle being in love and controlling their passions.
      That preaching that it was possible to do, would just encourage many jedi, especially young ones, to try and likely fail. Which would lead to more sith.
      Nor so much that they fear for their order or power, some might have, but that they fear for the repercussions of teaching something with such a high likelihood of catastrophic failure.

  • @Cailus3542
    @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +49

    For me, it's simple: the Jedi Masters were terrified. The Order, down to barely a hundred Jedi, was weaker than it had ever been. The decision to laud Revan and fully bring him back into the Order was a desperate attempt to control him. The Council knew that if another crisis occurred, they would need Revan's power and genius to survive. At worst, it appeased Revan and Bastila so that they'd toe the party line and not rebel.
    Revan, of course, knew all this, but he had no interest in reforming the Order or getting involved in their politics. He knew that he was the wrong man for that.
    More, remember what happened after Revan was captured. The Council had the power to heal his mind. Instead, they violated his mind and imprinted him with a new identity, loyal to them. Revan was sureiy a bit peeved after that.
    All of that rambling is to say that Revan and Bastila likely knew that the Order was doomed. There was no fixing it. This is why Atris had no knowledge of Bastila's hiding place, or Jolee, Juhani and Yuthura. They all refused to return to the Order, especially after Katarr. Bastila only popped out of hiding to use her Battle Meditation when the Sith fleet attacked Telos. Even then, she avoided meeting the Exile.

    • @condedepiamonte93
      @condedepiamonte93 Місяць тому +2

      Is there info about Yuthura surviving up until the Dark Wars? Was she alived at the return of Meetra Surik?

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@condedepiamonte93 Just speculation on my part. There is a twi'lek Jedi in SWTOR who has the same surname, which is suggestive.

    • @condedepiamonte93
      @condedepiamonte93 Місяць тому

      @@Cailus3542 but, isn't the Old Republic like 300 years after the KOTOR events?

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@condedepiamonte93 Sure. It's still feasible. Two twi'lek Jedi with the same surname? Why not?

    • @Aqueox
      @Aqueox 14 днів тому

      @@Cailus3542I mean, if they’re like the Vietnamese where the N’guyen clan reigns supreme then…

  • @sayvionwashington1939
    @sayvionwashington1939 Місяць тому +48

    Carth: What are you doing?
    Revan: Making chocolate pudding.
    Carth: Why are you making chocolate pudding?
    Revan: Because I've lost control of my life.

  • @Isaacisaperson4677
    @Isaacisaperson4677 Місяць тому +75

    Because they were jealous they didn't get a hot toy and Revan did

    • @goodwind3190
      @goodwind3190 Місяць тому +18

      Don't forget 2 diffrent Black Series figures and funko pops and a lego minifigure

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +18

      Understandable tbf...

    • @Aqueox
      @Aqueox 14 днів тому

      @@goodwind3190Not sure if he’s talking about Bastila or…

  • @DarkLOREDash
    @DarkLOREDash Місяць тому +23

    Jedi Council when Revan enters the council chambers "Is this room echo-ey or is it just me?"

  • @Shiver_Bane
    @Shiver_Bane Місяць тому +25

    Monsters are humans created by humans and they used Revan like a monster to fight another one. The Order wiped his mind to keep him under control and likely keep their hands clean. In the end it didn't work, Revan was more than a traitor they believed him to be. Kriea herself later suggested that Revan choose to be a 'monster' to fight a greater threat that the Jedi failed to recognize/acknowledge. The Order got what it deserves in the end and deserves no sympathy.
    Hmm, future topics... Dart Bane?

  • @vitorpereira9515
    @vitorpereira9515 Місяць тому +43

    Because the Jedi council knew Revan was right in fighting the mandalorians. But they were still traumatized by the Great Sith Wars. Have no doubt that if it weren't for Revan, the Republic would have fallen.

  • @MrWill9002
    @MrWill9002 Місяць тому +46

    And cue some 4000 years later and Revan looking at the Jedi of the old order who had passed on.
    Revan: "I believe this is the part where I say 'I told you so'".

    • @matthewchristian9591
      @matthewchristian9591 29 днів тому

      When was he around during the galactic civil war?

    • @MrWill9002
      @MrWill9002 29 днів тому

      @@matthewchristian9591 I meant in the afterlife you idiot. 🤦‍♂️

    • @MrWill9002
      @MrWill9002 25 днів тому +1

      @@matthewchristian9591 I meant in the AFTERLIFE. Isn’t it obvious? 🤦‍♂️

    • @matthewchristian9591
      @matthewchristian9591 25 днів тому

      @MrWill9002 not really

  • @kotwczapce1742
    @kotwczapce1742 Місяць тому +10

    because he was a hero, because he had friends, because he had love, but most importantly he wasn't their puppet, rather common issue with a jedi

  • @TonyAncom
    @TonyAncom Місяць тому +21

    As a Trekkie and a Star Wars fan, we more than get along. We have merged.

    • @ZorroTheWevile
      @ZorroTheWevile Місяць тому +3

      My girlfriend is a Trekkie, its actually amazing! Great shows and stories.

    • @dach829
      @dach829 Місяць тому +2

      I never really understood nor did I ever see it. Pretty sure it was cake

    • @ferretmonger0236
      @ferretmonger0236 15 днів тому

      How bout Halo, Starcraft & DRG?

  • @CaffeinatedWolfe
    @CaffeinatedWolfe Місяць тому +21

    It always blew my mind just how dogmatic the Jedi Council has been at numerous points in Galactic history. And every time, without fail, it led to their undoing.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +3

      Here's the kicker: whenever the Jedi lost their way, the Force intervened to destroy them, and to allow new Jedi (free of the mistakes of the old) to rise from the ashes. Anakin was created by the Force for that exact reason: to destroy both the Jedi and the Sith.

    • @Lorekeeper72
      @Lorekeeper72 29 днів тому +1

      @@Cailus3542 Think you nailed it and given what the Order was like after their rebuilds, it fits. Of course it does make me wonder why it took the Force so damn long to kick the Galactic Republic Era Jedi (Yoda's bunch) out but maybe it wanted to give them a chance and only stepped it once it became apparent they weren't going to get it.

  • @MegaDrainProductions
    @MegaDrainProductions 21 день тому +4

    9:14 "They would mock his marriage" is just kinda a funny thought.
    Revan walking down the aisles of the temple as Jedi laugh at him, "haha you love your wife, fuckin loser"

    • @Aqueox
      @Aqueox 14 днів тому

      “HAHA IMAGINE PASSING ON YOUR GENES. WE STICK OUR LIGHTSABERS IN A STONE WHEN WE ARE BANISHED, YOU STUPID LITTLE SHIT,” Vrook said calmly.

  • @Soundtracks92
    @Soundtracks92 Місяць тому +22

    The council was jealous asf that they weren’t as cool as Revan

  • @doubleupload5620
    @doubleupload5620 Місяць тому +12

    They hated him because they waited for the kotor remake and it never came out

  • @GOODYGOODGOOD789
    @GOODYGOODGOOD789 Місяць тому +8

    8:02 Anakin would be jealous, what's next is Revan going to get the high-ground.

  • @vetarlittorf1807
    @vetarlittorf1807 Місяць тому +55

    He wasn't hated. Atris and a few other conservative Jedi hated him but the Padawans looked up to him.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +4

      Given that Revan was the fellow who kicked off the war, killing millions and murdering hundreds of Jedi...yeah, probably not.

    • @angeligiacomo2292
      @angeligiacomo2292 Місяць тому +4

      @@Cailus3542well Juhani liked and loved the The Jedi Saviour and Hero of the Mandalorian Wars but not the evil Sith and Conqueror of the Jedi Civil War.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@angeligiacomo2292 Youthful naiviete, I think. Jolee and Bastila seem to be the only ones who recognise that Revan didn't change after his memories were lost. It was much more complicated.

    • @xanalvarez5323
      @xanalvarez5323 29 днів тому

      He was, it’s explored in detail in the Revan novel.

    • @charlesatanasio
      @charlesatanasio 29 днів тому +2

      Actually, at that point the philosophy of "no emotions" was far more radical. It was new. The conservatives were behind Revan, technically.

  • @route77productions
    @route77productions Місяць тому +7

    There’s a story to be told about Revan’s son and even grandchildren.
    How will the Jedi’s hatred of Revan affect his two grandchildren or how will the Republic treat his son(who went into politics)
    Saddens me that there’s still so much left untold from that era.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      Am not a fan of those. Besides, I almost always killed Bastila on the Light Sided route, let alone Romanced Carth or Juhani instead.

    • @route77productions
      @route77productions Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359Sure, but that is what was made canon to that era.
      A novel or graphic novel would’ve been nice.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      @@route77productions Tch, KotOR I and II are better off as ambiguous canon forgotten by the annals of in-universe history, and I loathe even great works like the Darth Plagueis novel for mentioning hated and unnecessary characters like Vitiate.

    • @Drums_of_Liberation
      @Drums_of_Liberation 10 днів тому

      I mean his I believe great granddaughter Satele Shan became the Grand Master of the Order.

  • @GentlemanJacque
    @GentlemanJacque Місяць тому +11

    "Twice the pride, double the fall" - Count Dooku
    Good riddance to the Order I say!

  • @lugh0_0
    @lugh0_0 Місяць тому +11

    Revan and Bastila Love story is better than Romeo and Juliet

  • @Mulluns
    @Mulluns Місяць тому +5

    This makes doing the Dark Side ending in the first game a lot easier, save for killing Jolee, Mission and Zalbaar. But I have ZERO sympathy for any of the Jedi Masters in the first and second game and they deserved their dark fates.

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +10

    Did the Ancient Sith know about the Star Forge? I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on this topic. Ajunta Pall alludes quite heavily to the treasure of the Ancient Sith from his era to be the Star Forge, but I have yet to see this referenced anywhere else. I don't believe anyone other than the Rakatta, Revan, and Malak had anything to do with the Star Forge, or even had any knowledge whatsoever about its existence, and yet Pall seems to state otherwise and the Star Map is located within Naga Sadow's tomb, which couldn't have been a coincidence.
    Continuity error? Plot thread left unresolved?

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +3

      I can definitely do some digging... but I think it's as you say, a plot thread unresolved or a continuity error.

    • @Lorekeeper72
      @Lorekeeper72 29 днів тому +2

      Doylist thinking says that its just an error or something unresolved. Watsonian however, it could be that Ajunta Pall was aware of the Star Forge or some other Rakatan technology but never figured out where any of it was. This makes sense given that the Sith species on Korriban had previously chased the Rakatans offworld and probably had some records of them to say nothing of partial map of the Star Forge. Pall was also a lot closer to the Infinite Empire Era than Revan was and predates the destruction of Ossus so maybe he had read an ancient record that spoke of them and/or the Force Wars.

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 29 днів тому +2

      @@Lorekeeper72 Yeah it's just very odd for him to claim it was their ultimate secret and something they killed themselves over when literally none of them had ever even been tangentially close to it whatsoever.

  • @djcody492
    @djcody492 Місяць тому +7

    I would love to see a video going over the Knights of the Old Republic comics (not Tales of the Jedi)

  • @majk173
    @majk173 Місяць тому +5

    Their teachings have resulted in absolute arrogance, and this has also become their undoing. That is why in the end the Sith always had the upper hand, for the Jedi never see beyond themselves.
    To answer your question about topic for a new video:
    I would REALLY like to see theory video about what do you think happened to Jolee Bindo. Why do you think he did not stay with the Jedi? Or why did not he help the Exile fight Nihilus? Do you think he died on Katarr?

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому

      A point: so long as the Jedi stayed true to their beliefs, they would always (inevitably) prevail. It's only when they wavered that problems arose.
      As for Jolee? I suspect that Bastila was very wary of the Jedi Masters. They had lost their way. After the initial assassinations by the Sith, or after Katar, I suspect that she ushered her friends and allies to go into hiding. They might even have stayed with the younglings, to protect and teach them. This might've been at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant or a hideout.
      Either way, none of the Jedi Masters knew that Bastila was alive, likely a deliberate choice by her. I see no reason why the others wouldn't survive too.
      These Jedi, along with the Exile and her companions, would form the foundation of the new Jedi Order.

  • @sophiacousland3452
    @sophiacousland3452 Місяць тому +5

    Much like the Dwarves of Orzammar in Dragon Age, the Jedi Council was too set in their ways to realize that their archaic, stagnant nature was leading them to their downfall. Neither the Dwarves nor the Jedi Council were willing to see that things had to change or they were not going to survive. The Dwarves failed their people because they were suppressing the poor and not giving them the opportunity to better themselves, and restricting access and trade with the surface was only making problems worse. The Jedi Council failed so many Jedi because they kept preaching about suppressing emotions instead of finding healthy ways to work through them. The Jedi Council was also jealous and cautious of those who were extremely powerful and talented, meaning those who were not easily controlled.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +1

      Which is exactly why the Force created Anakin, to bring balance to the Force. Or, to put it another way: to destroy the Jedi and Sith alike, allowing a new generation of Jedi to rise, free of their predecessors' mistakes.

  • @dach829
    @dach829 Місяць тому +3

    Is there a more impact for force use revan basically reformed the jedi and through his holocron to Bane reformed the sith.

  • @georgesuarez8325
    @georgesuarez8325 Місяць тому +3

    I think the reasons the Jedi hated Revan was because of the things he did during the Mandalorian Wars, falling to the dark side and becoming a Sith lord that caused the Jedi Civil War and his relationship with Bastila Shan
    Don't forget Star Wars fans that tomorrow is the season finally of the Bad Batch!!!!! I seriously hope we don't lose Hunter, Wrecker and Echo. Will Ventress return to train Omega in the ways of the force?

  • @TomatoFettuccini
    @TomatoFettuccini Місяць тому +4

    I believe the phrase you're looking for is "petty jealousy".

  • @JediKnightIlona
    @JediKnightIlona Місяць тому +3

    What ever happened to following the Jedi Code? Jedi aren't suppose to hate because that's one of the negative emotions that leads to the dark side.

  • @arturohernandez5857
    @arturohernandez5857 Місяць тому +7

    Luke Jedi order from legends is more open minded 😎😎

    • @Spartan-do7dv
      @Spartan-do7dv Місяць тому +1

      Jacen solo should have been the modern Revan. Jaina could have saved him. But that series was bad luke was like Jacen is too evil he killed my wife I can't go after him as that would lead me to the dark side but let's send his twin sister who is very force connected with him and have her kill him perfect plan. Lets not forget that vader was redeemable even after all the things he did but jacens to far gone. It was a bad story that could have been done differently or skipped entirely it had good points in it but it was basically a modern original trilligy remake. But the series after that could have been led into a modern SWTOR MMO (Star Wars The New Republic SWTNR or somthing like that😅) the Sith empire essentially was back and had their own forces and were building them even bigger. They could have made them rival Lukes jedi order and the New Republic by the time the game took place and then the player could pick sides and meet the old characters it would have been awesome. But alas it twas not to be😢.

  • @dynomitethis
    @dynomitethis 24 дні тому +1

    Today, a star-trek ad in a starwars video, tomorrow, the world!

  • @Dabuddah
    @Dabuddah Місяць тому +6

    You wanna know what I wanna see? Alright...
    I wanna see something with Starkiller. Like your thoughts on him, do you think Revan would have had a good impact on him... etc

  • @McNyloLT
    @McNyloLT Місяць тому +3

    I actually laughed when I heard the sponsor of this video. Absolutely brilliant

  • @mickmack1409
    @mickmack1409 26 днів тому +1

    Hmm, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it. As for ideas on new KotOR vids, I always found the background and lore of the Old Republic time period fascinating. Reminds me a bit of the Mandalorian tv series time period. The big bad enemies are crushed, but things are still in flux. The Power vacuum has yet to be filled.
    I also want a more satisfying resolution to Revan and the Exile's tales. The small crumbs of Kreia's deathbed predictions are a start, but there are so many possibilities to explore. The novels and SWtoR games didn't resolve the tales to my satisfaction. So if you really want to grab my attention, perhaps speculation on these areas will prove fruitful.

  • @evilm4dn3z62
    @evilm4dn3z62 Місяць тому +3

    If Disney were to greenlight a KOTOR film or TV show (heck, even a trilogy), how would you storyboard and structure it in best keeping with the comics, books, and video games etc. ?

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      Comics and books instead. Video games and animated series would lead to jarring continuity lockout.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm Місяць тому

      I would keep it a game, games are more popular entertainment now anyway

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому

      KOTOR could work as an animated show in the same vein as TCW and Rebels, starting with the Mandalorian Wars.

  • @fal4366
    @fal4366 24 дні тому +1

    Upon watching this I am considering that Cal might be taking the revan path. Balancing emotions.

  • @guzylad5
    @guzylad5 Місяць тому +5

    Can you cover more of the Yuuzhan Vong?

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +1

      It's not really a strongsuit of mine, but I can certainly consider it!

  • @Kishimyu
    @Kishimyu Місяць тому +4

    They hate him cause they ain't him.

  • @kbnt776
    @kbnt776 Місяць тому +1

    I have always been interested in Malachor V , an origin story about Trayas academy , its construction and exploration of the timeline when the Sith Triumvirate discovered it , a video about that would be cool. I don't really count TOR as canon tbh , and the beautiful writing of being betrayed , the scar/echo it causes all of us, i think that is a very universal thing, Chris avellone was a genius.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +2

      Same... It's a shame it's all pretty obscure though.

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 Місяць тому +1

    He showed them what true protectors of peace and justice looked like

  • @craigamills7276
    @craigamills7276 Місяць тому +1

    What I always find is the Jedi never learn from their mistakes, emotions aren't bad they are taught to become droids in not feeling anything and this weakens them they lose sight of things. Only Luke's Jedi changed for better until Disney destroyed that.

  • @danielmatusevich1925
    @danielmatusevich1925 Місяць тому +3

    Love your videos man I've told all I can about your greatness of videos

  • @joshuaolsen5125
    @joshuaolsen5125 Місяць тому +1

    Would love to see a video exploring each planet's notable interesting features or notable side quests from the game.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @joshuaolsen5125
      @joshuaolsen5125 Місяць тому +1

      The criminal trial in Manaan and the compound in Dantooine were childhood favourites. Loved exploring Kashyyyk and Korriban.

  • @danielcerfalvi
    @danielcerfalvi Місяць тому +2

    Amazing video, great content, as a recommendation you said I´d really like to see you once make like a video if you havent allready about Nihilus and his bond(´s) either to Kreia or as some say also revan and also theretically a path to know where revan went after KOTOR 1 in the outer regions. Love your vids.💯💯

  • @darthrevan1281
    @darthrevan1281 Місяць тому +4

    Why Darth Revan HATED clickbait titles

  • @royalewithbees6541
    @royalewithbees6541 25 днів тому

    Hearing that council all got obliterated after the way they treated my boy Revan honestly had me grinning like the Cheshire Cat lol

  • @DMBLaan
    @DMBLaan Місяць тому +2

    A topic I'd like to hear your opinion on is "Other Starforges", in a somewhat theory and somewhat evidence kind of video. Logically there has to have been more than the 4 we've seen, possibly 5, but I'm not sure if the Infinite Engine we see in SWTOR is from a "known" Starforge or a different piece of Rakatan tech.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +1

      I've been considering this!

    • @DMBLaan
      @DMBLaan Місяць тому

      @@100StarWars I'd watch it for sure lol

  • @majinjason
    @majinjason 22 дні тому +1

    The prequel Jedi believe the same as Revan. Anakin tells Padme as much in Episode 2.
    But they seem to take a middle ground approach to it. Still no marriage, for the most part. And while you should love and are encouraged to love, no bonds or passion allowed.

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 Місяць тому +1

    I would love to see, hear and learn more about Darth Zannahh. What happened after the books when she was the sith Master?

  • @cheffdonty
    @cheffdonty Місяць тому +2

    They hated him after KOTOR because he massacred a ton of Jedi and Republic soldiers at the Star Forge 😎

  • @aamirrazak3467
    @aamirrazak3467 Місяць тому +1

    Revan proved the council wrong, and was willing to take action to defend the republic from the mandalorians, as were the Jedi exile and those who followed him. The council probably resented that he disobeyed them and made them look foolish

  • @denen404
    @denen404 29 днів тому +1

    Watching videos about kotor makes me want to replay it...for like the 20th time rofl 🤣

  • @bloodwolf21
    @bloodwolf21 22 дні тому

    Darkside EVERY TIME!
    The Star Forge infinite army
    Bastila and her Battle Meditation
    Sith army on korriban
    The ending is too legendary to pass up lol

  • @habloverdi7047
    @habloverdi7047 25 днів тому

    10:00 I want to know more about civilian life within the Palpatine's empire.

  • @heylolp9
    @heylolp9 Місяць тому +1

    A Thing to always be considered is that The Jedi Order is, despite their access to the Force, still is just a Religion

  • @lifelessperson1993
    @lifelessperson1993 24 дні тому +1

    1. Did the female Exile love Mical or Atton?
    2. Is T3 OP?
    3. What would a war of Jedi, Mandalorians and “Sith” vs the True Sith look like?

  • @Markymarkyanarchy
    @Markymarkyanarchy 11 днів тому

    I would like to see a long, in depth, sort of VS, comparison of Revan and Tulak Hord. Just for fun...

  • @AncestorEmpireGaming
    @AncestorEmpireGaming Місяць тому +2

    Hate? Maybe.
    Envious of his success? Yes being the absolute in this case.

  • @nicholasdelgado85
    @nicholasdelgado85 21 день тому

    Future video ideas:
    Kotor 1 & 2 armor lore
    Why are energy shields not prevelant in prequel star wars but are in kotor?
    If these are already talked about on this channel or another I'd love to see the video, please.
    Great video as always!!!

  • @asdgty100
    @asdgty100 Місяць тому +1

    Love your videos mate!

  • @N8TheGreatG
    @N8TheGreatG Місяць тому +2

    Just wanted you to know this is the only star wars channel I watch anymore. Disney star wars killed star wars and I love the old republic so thank you!

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +1

      I appreciate your continued support!

  • @manfrommontreal
    @manfrommontreal 22 дні тому +1

    Great video!

  • @VMX9999
    @VMX9999 Місяць тому

    How the Jedi Council survived up until Revenge of the Sith, I uave no idea.

  • @CheddaToastPlus
    @CheddaToastPlus Місяць тому +1

    A cool topic I'd like to see would be how the Jedi Exile formed the Jedi Order from Revans teachings. As briefly mentioned towards the end of this Video. That would be an interesting continuation topic to go off from! Also great video, been looking forward to another one of these types of videos on the channel now. Going back to when I first Subbed to your channel. Thank you for your videos!

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому +2

      I don't think that the Exile would've used Revan's teachings, for a variety of reasons. They were friends for a time, yes, but that was before Malachor V. More likely, the Exile used her own experience and wisdom to rebuild the Order, with a dab of Kreia here and there. Bastila certainly contributed too.

  • @condedepiamonte93
    @condedepiamonte93 Місяць тому

    Further topic: go inside the War of Exar Kun/The Great Sith War
    And how it did a domino effect
    From the Empress Theta System crisis all the way into the Jedi Civil War

  • @The_Bear_Adventures
    @The_Bear_Adventures Місяць тому

    I'd love a full background video on either carth onasi and his family including Saul or a complete history of the ebon hawk. A lore video about czerka or the exchange would also be interesting.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому

      I sort of have lore videos on both the Exchange and Czerka!

  • @majesticmsfc
    @majesticmsfc Місяць тому +1

    Anything Mara Jade related I love. Keep up the good work.

  • @insaniam_convertunt_scientiam
    @insaniam_convertunt_scientiam 28 днів тому

    Might have something to do with a Darth Revan crossing off almost all the old Jedi. That might make people grumpy.

  • @zanepennington2999
    @zanepennington2999 Місяць тому +2

    What I find funny is the jedi always talk about meditating and knowledge. You know, being the best you can be and all that. But they've never been able to look inward and reflect on themselves. Centuries of the same dogmatic ways and then wonder why everything goes wrong.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +2

      hypocrisy at its finest.

    • @majk173
      @majk173 Місяць тому

      Exactly!

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Місяць тому

      It's actually a core tenet of Jedi philosophy, as explained by Anakin in ROTS. They look outward, transcending the self. That's fine for many Jedi (Qui-Gon, Obi-wan, etc.), but not all. It's why Jedi philosophy isn't wrong, exactly, merely incomplete.
      Hilariously, Sidious knows this to some degree.

  • @scoobydoo3217
    @scoobydoo3217 Місяць тому

    I'd love to see a series of videos that discusses Revans book. Maybe chapter by chapter or major events by major events. Not many know about the book. Even some of your viewers. Click bait like titles like events that happen after kotor 2 or evil emperors. Idk lol that'd be cool to see

  • @jibril2473
    @jibril2473 Місяць тому +1

    There’s nothing better than some new Kotor content 😌

  • @ricardoquintero7160
    @ricardoquintero7160 Місяць тому

    To my knowledge, Yuthura Ban was conceptualized as a potential companion in the game. Is there any information on what kind of storylines would come from her addition and also how would it have affected the atmosphere on the ship to have a former Sith as a member of the crew.

  • @MrWill9002
    @MrWill9002 Місяць тому

    And I have one: how about a theory video regarding how Jedi Holocrons are made?

  • @BADSOI
    @BADSOI Місяць тому

    Amazing video as always! Love that you're working to keep this area of star wars lore alive and well!
    As for video ideas the psychology behind these games has always been super fascinating. TSL has been deconstructed so many times but I think the commentary on the Jedi order in the first game is often overlooked. Like, they erased your identity. Did they have any right to? Then for them to condemn you after everything you did for them is crazy.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому

      I kind of have a video like this called 'Why Revan's Redemption was a Dark Lie'!

  • @PeteTemplar101
    @PeteTemplar101 26 днів тому

    Probably because they could sense that the fandom would miss the point of his character and hold him up as an example of the "middle path"

  • @PJSO
    @PJSO Місяць тому

    Damn if he wasn't tired after that fight for the galaxy I'm sure he would have started his own order of Love-Jedi. I like to imagine it would have aligned with Luke Skywalkers order.

  • @ngreennz
    @ngreennz Місяць тому

    I can't imagine that relationship being anything other than extremely awkward. Revan didn't just fight the Republic, they targeted the Jedi specifically and tortured many of them to the dark side. And the Jedi Council captured Revan, wiped their memories and sent them after their allies as a clueless patsy. And yes, Revan turned around and saved the Republic after that of their own informed free will and got a medal out of it, but... that's a lot of water to try and fit under the bridge, on both sides. Also, if someone had at any point held my life in their hands or ever possibly might, I wouldn't try calling them the "prodigal" anything, that's just insulting.

  • @JonStark117
    @JonStark117 Місяць тому

    *The Jedi never fail in being completely oblivious to their own ignorance.*

  • @farseer123456789
    @farseer123456789 Місяць тому

    Having a Star Trek ad in a Star Wars video 🤣🤣🤣 Next level trolling

  • @YungPapiiChulo-_-
    @YungPapiiChulo-_- 22 дні тому +2

    speak on marka ragnos and tennebrae

  • @amarcellus1714
    @amarcellus1714 29 днів тому

    Revan, Qui-Gon, Luke (EU version) and Kyle Katarn are the ideal Jedi.

  • @williamwall3403
    @williamwall3403 13 днів тому

    He literally split the Order and ended up bringing it close to complete destruction before the Exile was able to resurrect it.

  • @emanueltwr
    @emanueltwr Місяць тому

    The Jedi Exile is criminally underrated!

  • @LJ-qq8lx
    @LJ-qq8lx Місяць тому +5

    Really happy to seem you jump back into some lore! Are you gonna continue the facts series?

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +2

      Possibly... though I'm very sad how poorly the first episode performed :((

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      ​@@100StarWarsFirst episode?

  • @mikeor-
    @mikeor- Місяць тому

    Atris: What makes you think I would do anything to help you? You defied the Jedi Council, betrayed the Republic, and slaughtered millions of innocent people during the Mandalorian Wars and the past war! That is not the Jedi way, and you know that! Be thankful we at least made you a Master, otherwise, we would have expelled you from the Jedi Order altogether for the crimes you wrought against us... I haven’t seen or spoken to Meetra Surik since the day of her exile. I don’t know where she went, and I hope I never find out. I also hope I never speak to her again, and neither should you, of all people! She was so close to the Mass Shadow Generator, that she would have died had she not severed her connection to the Force. In the Force, she is already dead, thanks to you! You’re not welcome here, Revan! Go back home to your wife!

  • @xnonentity
    @xnonentity Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the video 😘🥰🥳

  • @ArtofGuilt
    @ArtofGuilt 23 дні тому

    When i was younger, jedi seem cool. By the time I was 18, I thought the jedi stupid. After learning about kreia around 2006 when I played the game, i realized she was the most insightful. I felt sorry for her character and always tried to do the neutral ending...

  • @mariogarcia7445
    @mariogarcia7445 Місяць тому +3

    The video: Star Wars.
    The sponsor: Star Trek.
    Purists: _"TrAiToOoOoOoORR!!!"_ 🤣

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +1

      The hilarious irony of it is the reason I took the sponsor!

    • @mariogarcia7445
      @mariogarcia7445 Місяць тому

      @@100StarWars Hahahaha! Well played 👍

  • @williamwitte773
    @williamwitte773 Місяць тому

    I think it would be cool if you dove into the Mass Effect games and lore as they are some of bio where greatest works, and in my opinion, some of the best video games ever made. It is rich and Laura and storytelling and is also made by by aware and I love how in-depth your research is, and would like to hear your perspective. Jade Empire is another great game. Just an idea.

  • @Bored_Barbarian
    @Bored_Barbarian Місяць тому +1

    10:10 Honestly, assuming the light side ending of KOTOR and that’s cannon with TOR Online, how did the Jedi properly fall?
    I’ve played KOTOR 2 but from what I recall it’s just a vague “well the sith remnants kept fighting and folks died on both sides then the triumvirate wrapped up the rest”
    It just seems…odd from a lore POV especially with the ending of KOTOR 1. I think atton’s convo at the beginning on Peragus is the only mention offhand.

    • @100StarWars
      @100StarWars  Місяць тому +2

      Darth Nihilus killed them all on Katarr, and Darth Sion then used the assassins to hunt down any stragglers.

    • @Bored_Barbarian
      @Bored_Barbarian Місяць тому +1

      @@100StarWars thanks. 🫂 it’s been a decade+ since my last KOTOR 2 playthrough.
      Was going to grab on switch but after that whole debacle I abstained.

  • @leohale6449
    @leohale6449 Місяць тому +1

    Sorry no suggestions, but I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed this video.

  • @thomasmyers4661
    @thomasmyers4661 Місяць тому

    Make a video about Darth Bane and his disgust with the Brotherhood of Darkness and how this new Sith Order was an insult in Bane's eyes of how a Sith Lord should be.

  • @StarMandoForge
    @StarMandoForge Місяць тому

    The tragedy of Revan the prodigy knight

  • @khal7702
    @khal7702 Місяць тому

    Something about Darth Bane would be awesome or maybe Tulak Horde

  • @sw-gs
    @sw-gs 24 дні тому

    Revan: I've Destroyed Star Forge and killed Malak
    Jedi Order: You are hero.
    Revan: You know I plan to marry Bastila and by the way she is pregnant.
    Jedi Order: You are Monster.

  • @TheDevastator619
    @TheDevastator619 Місяць тому +1

    I ain’t never seen someone wield a big spoon than the Star Wars creator putting a Star Trek ad in their videos! 😂 (all jokes)