Really like this kind of video, it's the right kind of spoiler. It shows what there is, where it is and all that, but it's not the hyper-optimized setups and layouts that are hard to improve further, i.e. I still get to play the game and design stuff myself, but I know what and where to go. Good video mate.
I watched a 2 minute long hero-wars ad for you mate, I feel like I must ask to borrow a like from you this time around, so I can go buy a pint to forget this ever happened. Thank you.
Just set up my first movable platform, and plan is: Fulgora first for the Recycler, then head to Vulcanus to recycle some demolishers 😅 Just hope my logistics is set up correctly, so when I get up in the morning, I can just catch a ride to my ship 😊
Oh kovarex and nukes dont need yellow and purple anymore? Thats pretty big. It needing space science isnt a big deal honestly space science now is pretty cheap. First playthru probably gonna go straight with the "dont get purple and yellow research before space" achievment.
Vulcanus first, then Fulgora and then gleba. Also, love giving a like, if i could give you two likes i would. to bad youtube does not have productivity slots to add on. Would add Legendary Productivity modules
thats exactly my route, too. don´t want spidertrons too early or mk3 too early. first the ressources, then quality stuff and gleba is perfect as the 3rd option before the ice one.
The way the planets were presented and how the unlocks are structured, it feels like the most natural order would be Vulcanos, Fulgora, Gleba, Aquilo. I like that there is choice though, and will probably go with Fulgora first.
i myself will probably go for Gleba first because i love lush planets out of principle alone, however i may go to Vulcanus first depending on the tech tree once i get my hands on Space Age, nevertheless i love all of the planets tho i will admit im not too excited for Aquilo
I went to Gleba first because I wanted to get spidertron. My space platform destroyed itself in the transit over to Gleba so I was left stranded, with just some basic resources which I happened to pack. I was very underprepared and my first two hours on the planet were just trying to figure out how to get any resources or do anything. It was hard, but once it started making sense the production lines were very fun. 10/10 planet, but hoping to escape soon so I can science really going again.
Basically, vulcanus you can enhance your base material production (iron copper steel), Fulgora you enhance your intermediates (chips, mostly) then Gleba enhances your science production. That's not to say there's no benefits to doing another order, the devs specifically wanted to to be a meaningful choice. But the way productivity bonuses work, you want to stack them from the bottom up, raw material > intermediates > science
def vulcanos, just for the ability to boost science production into nirvana. can do purple, yellow and blue science with ease there. Then Fulgora and export the blue circuts to boost yellow even more on vulcanos. Then gleba and import all science to it to research like a madman in the bio labs
Bio labs actually only function on Nauvis. The idea seems to be that they want you to have to deal with science spoilng as you ship it home to your research facility
I think either Fulgora or Vulcanus are viable first jumps and both have their pros and cons; Gleba definitely feels like you really want the goodies from the other planets first. And Aquilo is locked behind Gleba anyway so there's not even a choice.
Ngl i feel like i might go vulcanus first, mainly cause the foundry is the shiny new building that slots in earliest in the chain of production. Also wurm be chillin in his own lane
I am planning on doing as much as possible in Fulgora, but if I need to go to Vulcanus for the elevated rail that kind of takes away my choice. May I just have to do a pit stop there.
You could always do a quick and dirty smash and grab on vulcanus to get enough science to unlock elevated rails and then go to fulgora to complete fulgora before heading back to vulcanus to complete that, then round off the initial planets by tackling gleba with all the unlocks from the other planets and finally tackle aquilo knowing you have all the tech from the first 4 planets, then you get to do end game stuff
@@cyberkraken1606 That is a good option, but the amount of Vulcanus science packs that are needed makes that complicated. Also if I undertand correctly one cannot move straight between Vulcanus and Fulgora.
higher quality personal roboports charge bots faster, so they will consume power faster. Also Higher quality personal bots also have larger batteries, which need more charging!
So it is Fulgora-Vulkanus-Gleba, I am a bit hesitant to think that Fulgora is 100% better but it is definetly the easier one to build the spaceinfrastucture that will be immedeatly useful by transporting blue and red chips which are on the complicated side thus reducing massively the need for copper and iron
Ah but vulcanus gives you the foundry which makes iron and copper infinite and allows you to skip some production steps due to the casting recipes, plus then you can slot the big mining drills where you would have electric mining drills and the foundry where you would have furnaces and assemblers producing iron only or copper only stuff rather than having to transport high level items to nauvis just to try and set up a way of using those first instead of the ones built on planet
@@cyberkraken1606 yeah, but to profit from all of those you need proper space logistics which Fulgora is all about providing you with free materials for rockets, same goes for the science packs, you need lots of chips and they are expensive even with infinite basic resources (which are still a drag to transport, they weigh too much)
So what happens if you don't have the expansion? Do you still get the old space science? What happens to old research that is now locked behind other planets ?
@@jeremiahdunaway3002 Probably better treated as an overhaul mod. The base game remains the same but with a lot of new QoL- don't know of the top of my head whether there are any recipe changes. Space age, on the other hand, shifts later technologies to post-space science, introduces a couple things pre-space (e.g. tier 1 quality module), and makes rockets much cheaper. I think you can use a base game save just fine, but in terms of gameplay, your mileage may vary whether it messes with the progression.
@@jeremiahdunaway3002 There are some recipe changes but they are also happening in base game, the devs do recommend you start again for Space age, but its not forced on you
Hmm, I was expecting the planets not to lead into one another too much, but it seems there is a progression the devs intend for you to take... But heck it, I want to play with Quality, so Fulgora first! :D
@@cyberkraken1606 Vulcanus seems like a strong first choice. You get upgraded miners and smelters which benefit you on Nauvis and Fulgora. Plus the planet has cliff explosives, which are useful pretty much everywhere and the reinforced raised rail platforms which are kind of needed on Fulgora. Afterwards, chances are Fulgora is the intended second planet. Recycler means you get to do more Quality, and the upgraded electronics maker is an important second step in producing most of the things. Gleba doesn't seem to be leading into much. Upgraded science is great, but you need biters for it so it mainly benefits you on Nauvis. Aquilo you physically can't get to before Fulgora or Gleba. Its guns are probably very useful on Vulcanus, and fusion reactor is good for anywhere.
Without watching I already know gleba first!
😂
stockholm syndrome got real
I thought you would hate gleba after that stream
agreed
Planet Trupen
The more I get into Space Age, the more glad I am that I played Space Exploration first
The first Planet to visit? Easy! Crash you ship into Nauvis surface! Nice planet! :D
You must be fun at parties.
@@Voeluspa45 of course they are, they are the first one there... Bcos they are throwing it 😂
The amount of content in this DLC is insane. It feels like you installed dozens of mods. Certainly worth thr money!
Really like this kind of video, it's the right kind of spoiler. It shows what there is, where it is and all that, but it's not the hyper-optimized setups and layouts that are hard to improve further, i.e. I still get to play the game and design stuff myself, but I know what and where to go. Good video mate.
I watched a 2 minute long hero-wars ad for you mate, I feel like I must ask to borrow a like from you this time around, so I can go buy a pint to forget this ever happened. Thank you.
Like given!
@@JDPlays Thanks so much, I'll make it up to you in the future :))
Careful! He is a hero!
Just set up my first movable platform, and plan is: Fulgora first for the Recycler, then head to Vulcanus to recycle some demolishers 😅
Just hope my logistics is set up correctly, so when I get up in the morning, I can just catch a ride to my ship 😊
Fulgora for sure, maxing out my personal armor and roboports is always top priority along with bot speed
Oh kovarex and nukes dont need yellow and purple anymore? Thats pretty big. It needing space science isnt a big deal honestly space science now is pretty cheap.
First playthru probably gonna go straight with the "dont get purple and yellow research before space" achievment.
I will warn you that the achievement is for not even unlocking the science before you go to space
@@cyberkraken1606 Well yes, you have to use ANY other planet's specific research flask before utility or advanced logistics science.
I am trying to get that achievment, but the lack of robot speed upgrades and elevated rails doesn't help.
Vulcanus first, then Fulgora and then gleba.
Also, love giving a like, if i could give you two likes i would. to bad youtube does not have productivity slots to add on. Would add Legendary Productivity modules
thats exactly my route, too. don´t want spidertrons too early or mk3 too early. first the ressources, then quality stuff and gleba is perfect as the 3rd option before the ice one.
The way the planets were presented and how the unlocks are structured, it feels like the most natural order would be Vulcanos, Fulgora, Gleba, Aquilo.
I like that there is choice though, and will probably go with Fulgora first.
exactly... thats what i´ve read here in the comments, too. it makes perfect sense in that exact route.
i myself will probably go for Gleba first because i love lush planets out of principle alone, however i may go to Vulcanus first depending on the tech tree once i get my hands on Space Age, nevertheless i love all of the planets tho i will admit im not too excited for Aquilo
I went to Gleba first because I wanted to get spidertron. My space platform destroyed itself in the transit over to Gleba so I was left stranded, with just some basic resources which I happened to pack. I was very underprepared and my first two hours on the planet were just trying to figure out how to get any resources or do anything. It was hard, but once it started making sense the production lines were very fun. 10/10 planet, but hoping to escape soon so I can science really going again.
Vulcanos, Fulgora, Gleba, Aquilo is the 'intended' route and that makes the most sense from a game design perspective.
Why Vulcan us first? Recycler seems v useful to unlock asap
Basically, vulcanus you can enhance your base material production (iron copper steel), Fulgora you enhance your intermediates (chips, mostly) then Gleba enhances your science production.
That's not to say there's no benefits to doing another order, the devs specifically wanted to to be a meaningful choice. But the way productivity bonuses work, you want to stack them from the bottom up, raw material > intermediates > science
Whatever planet has the burner. I want to visit Gleba, but also want to be able to burn spoiled stuff.
There is no Furgola planet JD.... Its Fulgora, from fulgarite
This is ture, I thought i put a editor JD put a note in there, but maybe he is also too tired its been a long week!
def vulcanos, just for the ability to boost science production into nirvana. can do purple, yellow and blue science with ease there.
Then Fulgora and export the blue circuts to boost yellow even more on vulcanos.
Then gleba and import all science to it to research like a madman in the bio labs
Bio labs actually only function on Nauvis.
The idea seems to be that they want you to have to deal with science spoilng as you ship it home to your research facility
@@ultimate9056 urg.. thats so dumb, but well then nauvis it is then.
I think either Fulgora or Vulcanus are viable first jumps and both have their pros and cons; Gleba definitely feels like you really want the goodies from the other planets first. And Aquilo is locked behind Gleba anyway so there's not even a choice.
I think Biolab-Science-Drain should scale on quality.
Maybe make the normal one worse and make the legendary one go to 25%
where does this aquilo node go to the right edge of the screen? perhaps to the homeland from which we came?
Ngl i feel like i might go vulcanus first, mainly cause the foundry is the shiny new building that slots in earliest in the chain of production.
Also wurm be chillin in his own lane
I am planning on doing as much as possible in Fulgora, but if I need to go to Vulcanus for the elevated rail that kind of takes away my choice. May I just have to do a pit stop there.
Maybe I will do Fulgora first and then to Vulcanus after kickstarting Fulgora science pack production.
You could always do a quick and dirty smash and grab on vulcanus to get enough science to unlock elevated rails and then go to fulgora to complete fulgora before heading back to vulcanus to complete that, then round off the initial planets by tackling gleba with all the unlocks from the other planets and finally tackle aquilo knowing you have all the tech from the first 4 planets, then you get to do end game stuff
@@cyberkraken1606 That is a good option, but the amount of Vulcanus science packs that are needed makes that complicated. Also if I undertand correctly one cannot move straight between Vulcanus and Fulgora.
I mean, if Trupen say its gleba, then its gleba
So, you'll get Portable fusion reactor, Personal battery MK3, bigger equipment grid size, but not a new type of equipment module consuming energy?
higher quality personal roboports charge bots faster, so they will consume power faster. Also Higher quality personal bots also have larger batteries, which need more charging!
Seems to me like there is no wrong choice herein. Quite different, but no clear optimal path.
So it is Fulgora-Vulkanus-Gleba, I am a bit hesitant to think that Fulgora is 100% better but it is definetly the easier one to build the spaceinfrastucture that will be immedeatly useful by transporting blue and red chips which are on the complicated side thus reducing massively the need for copper and iron
Ah but vulcanus gives you the foundry which makes iron and copper infinite and allows you to skip some production steps due to the casting recipes, plus then you can slot the big mining drills where you would have electric mining drills and the foundry where you would have furnaces and assemblers producing iron only or copper only stuff rather than having to transport high level items to nauvis just to try and set up a way of using those first instead of the ones built on planet
@@cyberkraken1606 yeah, but to profit from all of those you need proper space logistics which Fulgora is all about providing you with free materials for rockets, same goes for the science packs, you need lots of chips and they are expensive even with infinite basic resources (which are still a drag to transport, they weigh too much)
Of course as a true chad you should choose Gleba as your first!
Power of nature!
Can you move your entire base onto a different planet and do your research on it or is nauvis heavily encouraged to be your 'main' base?
The Biolab only works on Nauvis, where the biter spawner is native to
@@JulianSkies but that does technically mean you can just ship the science packs to nauvis.
So what happens if you don't have the expansion? Do you still get the old space science? What happens to old research that is now locked behind other planets ?
If you don't buy space age you get the factorio 2.0 experience. That includes a lot of QoL updates, but the tech tree is very close to factorio 1.1.
@@karituurihalme1007 What would happen if you beat and max out 2.0 and then get SA? Or would that still be needing a new start?
@@jeremiahdunaway3002 Probably better treated as an overhaul mod. The base game remains the same but with a lot of new QoL- don't know of the top of my head whether there are any recipe changes. Space age, on the other hand, shifts later technologies to post-space science, introduces a couple things pre-space (e.g. tier 1 quality module), and makes rockets much cheaper. I think you can use a base game save just fine, but in terms of gameplay, your mileage may vary whether it messes with the progression.
@@tukib_ Thanks.
@@jeremiahdunaway3002 There are some recipe changes but they are also happening in base game, the devs do recommend you start again for Space age, but its not forced on you
If I want to play on space age with my friends, only host must have dlc or all players?
everyone will need it
@@JDPlays Thank you
I’m confused, wouldn’t a 50% increase only add .5 instead of 1? 14:30 you keep saying 1 + 50% = 2 😅 instead of 1 + 50% = 1.5 😮
So 2 + 50% = 3?
can i select a starter planet in Space Age?
or i have to start on Nauvis then travel to one of the planets?
I saw a mode that changes up the starting planet. I think they are working out the tech tree’s so you dont get stuck!
Gleba
Hmm, I was expecting the planets not to lead into one another too much, but it seems there is a progression the devs intend for you to take...
But heck it, I want to play with Quality, so Fulgora first! :D
I feel like certain planets cross paths but don't really lead into each other, what do you think the "intended" order is and why?
@@cyberkraken1606 Vulcanus seems like a strong first choice. You get upgraded miners and smelters which benefit you on Nauvis and Fulgora. Plus the planet has cliff explosives, which are useful pretty much everywhere and the reinforced raised rail platforms which are kind of needed on Fulgora.
Afterwards, chances are Fulgora is the intended second planet. Recycler means you get to do more Quality, and the upgraded electronics maker is an important second step in producing most of the things.
Gleba doesn't seem to be leading into much. Upgraded science is great, but you need biters for it so it mainly benefits you on Nauvis.
Aquilo you physically can't get to before Fulgora or Gleba. Its guns are probably very useful on Vulcanus, and fusion reactor is good for anywhere.
@@cyberkraken1606 Vulcanos, Fulgora, Gleba, Aquilo is the 'intended' order and the route that makes most sense from a game design perspective.
I’ve never seen a video with such lazy pronunciations 😂 all jokes this is actually a great video thanks bro
new sub, looking 4 ppl tp play with, comment if interested , cheers
You didn't even answer your own question. What a weird video to make.
Which bit of going to Vulcanus first did you choose to ignore?
Jeez, there's always one 🙄
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