Well done, Michael! Now to convince my wife we need a Pressure Pot! Thanks for sharing your time to venture deeper into this pen make tutorial! We all know and appreciate the time taken out of your day.
It might be easier to ask forgiveness than permission :P The one thing I want to mention before you consider running out and buying one... most "organic materials" give much better results in the resin if they are stabilized first using a vacuum chamber and stabilizing resins. The end result will be far less susceptible to getting air bubbles, and it makes the material harder for cleaner cutting. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to show this part of the process because I haven't been able convince my wife yet that I need a vacuum chamber....Lol
Stabilizing is critical. I have used a pressure pot, but find it did not make much difference. I also cast in a vertical mold. I go in with a contrasting color, let that sit and fill the cups and then add additional colors. I quarter the blank which gives me 4 pen blanks from one pour.@@MichaelZurcher
Thanks! I find that you waste less CA with this method and it doesn't soak through and get on your fingers...let me know what you think after you try it!
Nice job on the pen Michael. Looks amazing in the end. Also it's interesting to see someone use the same technique that I do. I always use my skew as a scraper to refine the curves and get down close to the bushings.
+Woodventures thank you! Alumilte and negative rake scrapping seem to work really well together...I don't have a real neg scraper yet so I improvise using a skew...seems to do the job!
LOVE the pen. What’s crazy is that this video was in my Instagram recommendations today!!! It’s still a gorgeous project/pen... even if it is 3 years too late, LMAO!!
Very exciting work. This art form would make awesome beads and buttons. What else do you envision substituting for the pinecone? Would used wine corks work?
Hi Robin! Glad you found it of interest :) People substitute all kinds of things...you name it people have probably encased it in resin. I think wine corks might work if you per-process them in a thin stabilizing resin and a vacuum chamber prior to the resin casting. Anything soft and spongy would need to be dried and hardened before using with the resin. That would also allow you to turn it on the lathe too. I don't have a vacuum pump or chamber yet so I have to rely on harder materials or "per-stabilized" materials at the moment.
hey very nice finish mate, i aboslutely love the colour choices using in theis project, i have been using blood reed and white looks good to . i am having a problem with air bubbles in my castings, i noticed you advised your cones were stabalised, i am assuming this is a neeeded step to prevent the issues i am having. yay another peice of equipment i need to bribe my parnter into getting me lol
i can see some fancy new toys there !!! i am very happy for you bro !!! i love last times red pen but the blue for me is more effective reming me the Greek flag !!! man i really like also to win one of this blanks that you offer ! see you next time bro !!!
+Kostas Annikas Deftereos I need a couple of your stickers bro! I really like the colors of this one too! And I like the type of pen kit better too! Do it! Win one!! :)
+D.M Healthcare Hi Doug, the pressure pot I use is the 2.5 gallon pot from TCP Global. www.tcpglobal.com/TCP-PT8320.html#.Whtc6p9OlnE You need to modify this tank slightly and take off the agitator bar. Hope this helps!
A bit late to the party, but I just saw your video Mike, by someone who shared it on the FB Pen Turner's Group. WOW! I must say, you have done an awesome job on this pen. It is absolutely beautiful, and I like it so much that I have to make one just like it! As an aside, can you please share which pen vise you are using in the video? Thanks! GT
Thanks! I use plastic because CA glue is expensive and you waste a ton when you use paper towels...it soaks in to them...also I just like that the CA and plastic don't stick to each other. But really it's just my preference.
Awesome video! At the beginning, when you say you take the "Stabilized Pinecone and trim the edges", what do you mean by stabilized? Does it need to be stabilized before going into resin or is the resin what "stabilizes" it?
Thank you! I stabilize my pinecones before casting them, basically that means they are soaked in a special stabilizing resin under vacuum until all the air has been drawn out...then taken off vacuum and that draws the stabilizing resin into and fills the tiny air pours. Then they get cured in an over....then I cast them in resin.
That pen looks great. I have collected some long pine cones to do the same thing. Do you think the pine cones need to be stabilized before casting. Thanks.
Michael Zurcher Thanks for your video Michael!!! I just found your channel and am a new follower. I hope I’m not beating that ‘ol dead horse if you’ve done so in the past, but could you please clarify what you mean by “stabilizing” the pine cones??? Thanks and God Bless You & Yours!!!
Michael, I don't often comment on videos much anymore but this one is awesome. I live in Florida & there are pine cones everywhere, but they're all too large for pens. They might work for bottle stoppers and call blanks. Where did you get the small cones ?
+jim renderer thanks! Not sure the size of the cone really matters...its the core that really gives the look. In PA the pinecones typically tend to be long and slender. If you end up making one, I'd love to see what you come up with!
+Mike Kapotsy thanks! I find it works pretty well...some people prefer paper towel. I found you waste less CA...and it leaves a slightly smoother surface. Thanks for the sub! Turning is addictive!
Thanks! I had the Harbor Freight pot but it always leaked and I found tightening that pot was always a hassle to get an even tightness. I purchased the one in this video from TCPglobal.com The make them in all different sizes. I just went for the 2.5 gallon because I didn't plan on doing anything super large. I did have to modify it a little because there is a center shaft for mixing that I didn't want. I just removed it and added a threaded fitting to it to block the air flow out. Good luck!
+Shogun-Jimi 😊Colors , ummm well I opened up my cabinet reach my hand in and when my fingers touched the bottle they tightened around it and pull it off the shelf....but if you mean prior to that...I went on alumilite's site and clicked the dropdown on the colors I wanted then added them to a cart and played for them with my credit card. 😂🤣😜
I picked it up from WoodCraft....it's called the Navigator Screw Cap Rollerball Pen Kit :) I think if I made another one I wouldn't do the screw cap on a blank that needs to match grain or pattern orientation...it's tricky to get the spine to line up when you screw it on...you can...it just takes some trial.
Chiedo una cortesia se puoi aiutarmi vorei sapere dove compri i pezzi delle penne , ti ringrazio in anticipo a risentirci. Aproposito non ti o fatto i complimenti per la penna che ai fatto veramente bella e unica un vero capolavoro spero di riuscirci anche io in seguito. Ciao
Unfortunately I don't sell my blanks at the moment, with pinecone blanks there is always the possibility that there are small air bubbles that can get trapped and I'd feel bad selling them and having something like that go out.
I buy them from various vendors online...penn state industries has a pretty large selection. Woodcraft, arizona silhouette, turners warehouse, Bear tooth woods...all have different selections and different kits.
+Brendan Kearney I use plastic because I found that it doesn't leave as many streaks as paper towels, and you can use less because it doesn't soak in...less waste, and it doesn't soak through and get on your fingers...just my preference. Thanks for watching!Cheers!
The pressure pot I use is the 2.5 gallon pot from TCP Global. www.tcpglobal.com/TCP-PT8320.html#.Whtc6p9OlnE You need to modify this tank slightly and take off the agitator bar. Hope this helps!
+Samuel Sanchez I used corrugated plastic. It's not the best thing to use, but it's all I had and it does the job. I think I picked it up at home depot...try your local hardware store.
you can, but I found that stabilizing gives a better finish and cuts down the likely hood of air bubbles forming...I tried it in the beginning but found I got much better and more consistent results when stabilizing
@@kandiecandelaria1423 I don't know o any other way to do it...I have seen people make smaller setups with a cheap harbor freight vac pump and some mason jars, not saying I recommend that...but there are videos out there showing how to set that up. other than that, you can make them without stabilizing, just get some thin CA glue and when you finish sanding let that CA soak into the pinecone....then resand and finish. The stabilizing helps prevent moisture from reabsorbing into the cone once it's finished ...the ones I have made without stabilizing tend to "swell" and get a raised surface where the pinecone is...and I don't know if it might eventually separate or crack the resin over time
@@MichaelZurcher I was thinking about doing something like this and sell the pens for around 20~30 euro each but the expensive kits quickly cost about 10 euros each to buy. Some Aliexpress sellers sell them as cheap as 3 euros, but with these I have to find the better quality which will also cost me a bit of money. Anyways thank you for your reply.
@@LoneDeathWolf 20 to 30 euros in my opinion is way too cheap...when you sell your work cheap you hurt yourself and everyone else that sells. These pens take a considerable amount of time and effort as you can see in the video. You can do what you want but I can tell you I have no problems selling them for much more than what you want to sell them. My best advice is to provide quality, charge according to your time, and materials...and use quality materials ...you and the people buying will be happier in the end. Good luck
@@MichaelZurcher people are quite cheap over here, they won't be spending alot of money on an item they will barely use. And as someone who wants to start doing this I'll have to adjust my price to what you said. My resources are finite and I want to be paid accordingly. I'll make a few mistakes here and there but I'll just include this into my learning experience. Thank you for your advice.
Well done, Michael! Now to convince my wife we need a Pressure Pot!
Thanks for sharing your time to venture deeper into this pen make tutorial! We all know and appreciate the time taken out of your day.
It might be easier to ask forgiveness than permission :P The one thing I want to mention before you consider running out and buying one... most "organic materials" give much better results in the resin if they are stabilized first using a vacuum chamber and stabilizing resins. The end result will be far less susceptible to getting air bubbles, and it makes the material harder for cleaner cutting. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to show this part of the process because I haven't been able convince my wife yet that I need a vacuum chamber....Lol
Stabilizing is critical. I have used a pressure pot, but find it did not make much difference. I also cast in a vertical mold. I go in with a contrasting color, let that sit and fill the cups and then add additional colors. I quarter the blank which gives me 4 pen blanks from one pour.@@MichaelZurcher
Thank you. That pen is really stunning. Especially like the center of the pine cone on the pen surface.
+Fred Floyd thanks for checking it out! Glad to hear you like it :)
That design is knockout gorgeous. Nice job.
+Sunshines' Shadow thank you for checking out my channel! :)
Beautiful blank and pen. Love the pinecone.
I really enjoyed his demonstration, lovely job.
Wow! Beautiful pen! Thank you for the plastic applicator idea! 😉
Thanks! I find that you waste less CA with this method and it doesn't soak through and get on your fingers...let me know what you think after you try it!
Neat stuff. Going to have to go down the Alumilite rabbit hole soon. Way too many cool things in the woods to incorporate into pieces. Thanks!
Hey, I'm glad your getting some use out of those stabilized cone. and thanks for the mention.
Yes sir!! They worked out brilliantly! Super huge Thank YOU goes out to you again!!!
Wonderful, informative, step-by-step vid. Thank you!
+Dorianne Almann thanks for checking out my channel!
Dude!!!!! That's GORGEOUS!
This Pen looks so fascinating!
+J. Andreas thanks!
Awesome job Michael I love that pine cone a fact it kind of reminding me of fire.
+Opa's Workshop Thanks Opa! Yeah I was really happy with the color combo I think the yellows and oranges of the cone spine really pop 👍
Fantastic pen with an excellent choice of colours.
Thanks
James
Nice job on the pen Michael. Looks amazing in the end. Also it's interesting to see someone use the same technique that I do. I always use my skew as a scraper to refine the curves and get down close to the bushings.
+Woodventures thank you! Alumilte and negative rake scrapping seem to work really well together...I don't have a real neg scraper yet so I improvise using a skew...seems to do the job!
You clever bloke you! Really beautiful pen Michael!
Take care mate 👍🍺
+Turning Works Thanks Dave! Appreciate the compliment!
Beautiful! I love the way it turned out.
Thank you!
Wow that's an amazing pen!
+José Pedro Filipe Thanks! Glad you like it...thanks for checking out my vids!
Beautiful pen, great video!
Thanks Meg!!!
LOVE the pen. What’s crazy is that this video was in my Instagram recommendations today!!! It’s still a gorgeous project/pen... even if it is 3 years too late, LMAO!!
hahaha, yeah it's crazy that it still gets viral shares on FB and IG regularly. Thanks for the love!!
Great video. Thanks for making and sharing.
+ElkChaser2009 appreciate the watch! Thanks for checking it out!
That looks really neat.
Wow! That looks amazing!
Thank you Carl!! Much appreciated!
I like how the blue and white contrast so well with the pinecone.
That turned out Fantastic. I hope to have my skull video out on Friday
Thanks! Appreciate the watch! Looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with for the challenge! Good luck!
That came out stunning!!
+ESCAGEDO WOODWORKING Thank you bro! I'm really happy with the color combo and really fond of that pen kit!
Very beautiful work
Beautiful Pen.
Richard...
+Richard Ford Thank you!
Beautiful!
Thank you!!!
Great job on the pen.
+sniperwolfjs Thanks!
Yo that thing is amazing
Beautiful Michael
+Gary Palmer Thanks, much appreciated!
Very exciting work. This art form would make awesome beads and buttons. What else do you envision substituting for the pinecone? Would used wine corks work?
Hi Robin! Glad you found it of interest :) People substitute all kinds of things...you name it people have probably encased it in resin. I think wine corks might work if you per-process them in a thin stabilizing resin and a vacuum chamber prior to the resin casting. Anything soft and spongy would need to be dried and hardened before using with the resin. That would also allow you to turn it on the lathe too. I don't have a vacuum pump or chamber yet so I have to rely on harder materials or "per-stabilized" materials at the moment.
Those blanks look amazing!
Thanks!
Very nice pen!
Thanks for checking it out!
Saaaweeeeet! Great process and pen.
Thanks Mike!
Thanks for the video. I learned a bunch!
Always glad to hear that! Thanks for checking it out!
It is an awesome pen.
Thank you
Really nice looking pen!
+Bryn Phipps thanks!
Beautiful pen and great video dude!
+Mitch Deitrich Thanks fella!
hey very nice finish mate, i aboslutely love the colour choices using in theis project, i have been using blood reed and white looks good to . i am having a problem with air bubbles in my castings, i noticed you advised your cones were stabalised, i am assuming this is a neeeded step to prevent the issues i am having. yay another peice of equipment i need to bribe my parnter into getting me lol
Thank you! There are many reasons you could be getting bubbles. Stabilizing does help reduce the chances but it's not the only reason for bubbles.
That was awesome! Thanks for that..
Thanks! They are a lot of work...but I think they look pretty cool!
i can see some fancy new toys there !!! i am very happy for you bro !!! i love last times red pen but the blue for me is more effective reming me the Greek flag !!! man i really like also to win one of this blanks that you offer ! see you next time bro !!!
+Kostas Annikas Deftereos I need a couple of your stickers bro! I really like the colors of this one too! And I like the type of pen kit better too! Do it! Win one!! :)
Beautiful pen!
+Ronald Ainaire Thanks!😊
I enjoyed both videos but I think the second pen had a more refined shape, thanks!
Thanks! I would have to agree with you 😊
This is an awesome pen man. We give away pens at work and I'm trying to get them to buy from me. I might have to try this kind.
+Phillip Rowland I'd love to see what you come up with! Please send me some pics if you make one!
Great job 👌
Thank you!
dude thats awesome
+jp woodwork 🤘thanks ...pretty happy with the color combo :)
Beautiful
awesome looking pen
+Donna Presley thanks! Now I'm trying to decide...do I keep it for myself, or sell it....lol....hmmmm. thanks for watching
keep it to show and get sales from it
I like that :)
Hi thanks for the great pinecone video. Can you please tell me where are you get the Pressure Pot and what kind this is thank you for help Doug
+D.M Healthcare Hi Doug, the pressure pot I use is the 2.5 gallon pot from TCP Global.
www.tcpglobal.com/TCP-PT8320.html#.Whtc6p9OlnE
You need to modify this tank slightly and take off the agitator bar. Hope this helps!
A bit late to the party, but I just saw your video Mike, by someone who shared it on the FB Pen Turner's Group. WOW! I must say, you have done an awesome job on this pen. It is absolutely beautiful, and I like it so much that I have to make one just like it! As an aside, can you please share which pen vise you are using in the video? Thanks! GT
Love to see how it turns out! I'm not sure the brand but I purchased it through woodcraft!
Hi Michael, awesome looking pen!! If I get a 2.5 gal like the one you are using, is there a way to run me through the modifications please?
Beautiful pen, I have a question, I saw you use plastic to apply the Ca glue why is that?
Thanks! I use plastic because CA glue is expensive and you waste a ton when you use paper towels...it soaks in to them...also I just like that the CA and plastic don't stick to each other. But really it's just my preference.
Nice pen. Got to put more thought into the resin. Thanks.
+Heavymetal Woodworking Thanks! It's a pretty cool medium...takes a little trial and error...but the results are worth it!
💗 LOVE IT!!! 💗
Thank you :)
Stunning xx
Thank you!
I like both a lot, but this one is my favorite. btw, I'm not one of the "fat pen haters" lol
Lol...just being funny...but there did seem to be a few people not to fond of the girth of the last pen. Thanks for checking it bro!
Using the plastic bags from the pen kit to apply the CA? brilliant! getting tired of getting burnt using paper towel stuck to me lol.
Thanks! I was tired of that too, plus you waste so much CA with paper towels!
WOW
the finish stylo is so butiful. Do you sale them?
Thank you! I used to sell alot of them but I haven't for some time due to other things going on in my life...someday I may start making them again
Awesome video! At the beginning, when you say you take the "Stabilized Pinecone and trim the edges", what do you mean by stabilized? Does it need to be stabilized before going into resin or is the resin what "stabilizes" it?
Thank you! I stabilize my pinecones before casting them, basically that means they are soaked in a special stabilizing resin under vacuum until all the air has been drawn out...then taken off vacuum and that draws the stabilizing resin into and fills the tiny air pours. Then they get cured in an over....then I cast them in resin.
Well done
Good job.
Gorgeous
+David Gagnon Thanks!
Nice job ,,,,,,,,,,Dave
Thanks
That pen looks great. I have collected some long pine cones to do the same thing. Do you think the pine cones need to be stabilized before casting. Thanks.
I haven't had great luck with them when they weren't stabilized...I would recommend stabilizing them first.
Michael Zurcher Thanks for your video Michael!!! I just found your channel and am a new follower. I hope I’m not beating that ‘ol dead horse if you’ve done so in the past, but could you please clarify what you mean by “stabilizing” the pine cones??? Thanks and God Bless You & Yours!!!
Michael, I don't often comment on videos much anymore but this one is awesome. I live in Florida & there are pine cones everywhere, but they're all too large for pens. They might work for bottle stoppers and call blanks. Where did you get the small cones ?
+jim renderer thanks! Not sure the size of the cone really matters...its the core that really gives the look. In PA the pinecones typically tend to be long and slender. If you end up making one, I'd love to see what you come up with!
Wow. The pen looks awesome. How did you stabilize the pine cone?
Thanks! I use a vacuum chamber to stabilize them.
Nice video, new to pen turning myself. Never seen plastic bags used to apply CA glue, does that work well for you? Subscribed.
+Mike Kapotsy thanks! I find it works pretty well...some people prefer paper towel. I found you waste less CA...and it leaves a slightly smoother surface. Thanks for the sub! Turning is addictive!
Very nice looking pen. I have a Harbor Freight pot but looking to upgrade, what brand is your pot?
Thanks! I had the Harbor Freight pot but it always leaked and I found tightening that pot was always a hassle to get an even tightness. I purchased the one in this video from TCPglobal.com The make them in all different sizes. I just went for the 2.5 gallon because I didn't plan on doing anything super large. I did have to modify it a little because there is a center shaft for mixing that I didn't want. I just removed it and added a threaded fitting to it to block the air flow out. Good luck!
Thanks for the quick response, looks like the East Coast warehouse is about 30 miles from my house.
Perfect! Seems to be a pretty decent pot! I like mine a lot and know a few other guys that have the same one.
I want this onee♥️♥️♥️♥️💝
😊 I do take custom orders!
@@MichaelZurcher iwant one how much
If you can message me through Facebook @zurcherarts or Instagram @MichaelZurcherarts directly...happy to discuss further!
@@MichaelZurcher sir please give your instagram id
wow - good stuff - how did you select the colors - LOL
+Shogun-Jimi 😊Colors , ummm well I opened up my cabinet reach my hand in and when my fingers touched the bottle they tightened around it and pull it off the shelf....but if you mean prior to that...I went on alumilite's site and clicked the dropdown on the colors I wanted then added them to a cart and played for them with my credit card. 😂🤣😜
Michael the pen turn out great the pressure pot you’re using what brand and have you had any issues of leaking with that brand thanks
It's a TCP global brand and I have not had any issues as of yet. Thanks!
Nice!!
👌👌👌
which pen hardware kit did you use for this? I like that size
I picked it up from WoodCraft....it's called the Navigator Screw Cap Rollerball Pen Kit :) I think if I made another one I wouldn't do the screw cap on a blank that needs to match grain or pattern orientation...it's tricky to get the spine to line up when you screw it on...you can...it just takes some trial.
Chiedo una cortesia se puoi aiutarmi vorei sapere dove compri i pezzi delle penne , ti ringrazio in anticipo a risentirci. Aproposito non ti o fatto i complimenti per la penna che ai fatto veramente bella e unica un vero capolavoro spero di riuscirci anche io in seguito. Ciao
Thanks! Check out this site. It is very good for pen kits! www.pennstateind.com/
It's like Transport Tycoon music :)
Do you still have any of these blanks for sale?
Unfortunately I don't sell my blanks at the moment, with pinecone blanks there is always the possibility that there are small air bubbles that can get trapped and I'd feel bad selling them and having something like that go out.
Where do you get the metal parts for the pen?
I buy them from various vendors online...penn state industries has a pretty large selection. Woodcraft, arizona silhouette, turners warehouse, Bear tooth woods...all have different selections and different kits.
Cool. Thx a lot!!
@@MisterBenne sure thing!
Hi where can I buy metal parts of the handle? Do you need to do it yourself? Thanks for the great video!
You can find the pen parts at an online pen supply vendor...I use a couple of local vendors.
That was awesome,do you sell a blank like that or know someone who does?
Thanks! No I don't sell the blanks...sorry :(
awesome.
thanks
Why do you use plastic to apply your CA glue finish? I dont think Ive seen that before.
+Brendan Kearney I use plastic because I found that it doesn't leave as many streaks as paper towels, and you can use less because it doesn't soak in...less waste, and it doesn't soak through and get on your fingers...just my preference. Thanks for watching!Cheers!
Nice! I enjoyed the video. Thanks for getting back to me.
Hi, a work of art.
Do you have a web page where items are for sale?
Im working on getting one up and running...right now ive been taking orders through direct messaging .
U make all models to life! Ur creativity lives!
BTW, Whats that Give away?
Really walnut?
I'm not sure what you are talking about with what giveaway ...and walnut??
Cool pen
+DesertBum WoodWork'n thanks!
What do you mean by apply CA? what's CA?
Cyanoacrylate glue...also know as super glue, but some super glues are not Cyanoacrylates...I use the ones that are.
I just noticed you blank vice for drilling
Can I order Iike it so much
What does it mean to be “stabilized”?
You soak them in a thin resin inside a vacuum chamber and the resin penetrates through the material and when it cures it is hard with no air pockets.
What brand of pressure pot are you using?
The pressure pot I use is the 2.5 gallon pot from TCP Global.
www.tcpglobal.com/TCP-PT8320.html#.Whtc6p9OlnE
You need to modify this tank slightly and take off the agitator bar. Hope this helps!
I need to learned ame pen . And how to purchase machine and raw material pls advance me
And where you get it?
+Samuel Sanchez home depot
What type of plastic you used to make the mold?
+Samuel Sanchez I used corrugated plastic. It's not the best thing to use, but it's all I had and it does the job. I think I picked it up at home depot...try your local hardware store.
thanks
I have some really really dry pine cones. Can I just use them without stabilizing them? They are like 5 yrs old
you can, but I found that stabilizing gives a better finish and cuts down the likely hood of air bubbles forming...I tried it in the beginning but found I got much better and more consistent results when stabilizing
@@MichaelZurcher I don’t have a way to stabilize them though. How else can you stabilize without a vaccum set up?
@@kandiecandelaria1423 I don't know o any other way to do it...I have seen people make smaller setups with a cheap harbor freight vac pump and some mason jars, not saying I recommend that...but there are videos out there showing how to set that up. other than that, you can make them without stabilizing, just get some thin CA glue and when you finish sanding let that CA soak into the pinecone....then resand and finish. The stabilizing helps prevent moisture from reabsorbing into the cone once it's finished ...the ones I have made without stabilizing tend to "swell" and get a raised surface where the pinecone is...and I don't know if it might eventually separate or crack the resin over time
PERFECT
Where do you sell them?
+Jon Jacobs I haven't sold any, I may eventually set up an etsy. But for these were made for either myself or to be given as a gift.
Where does one find cheap but quality pen kits? This looks like a fun hobby but the pen kits I can find are too expensive.
I don't really know, I buy only quality kits, and yes they can get expensive, but you pay for what you get.
@@MichaelZurcher I was thinking about doing something like this and sell the pens for around 20~30 euro each but the expensive kits quickly cost about 10 euros each to buy. Some Aliexpress sellers sell them as cheap as 3 euros, but with these I have to find the better quality which will also cost me a bit of money.
Anyways thank you for your reply.
@@LoneDeathWolf 20 to 30 euros in my opinion is way too cheap...when you sell your work cheap you hurt yourself and everyone else that sells. These pens take a considerable amount of time and effort as you can see in the video. You can do what you want but I can tell you I have no problems selling them for much more than what you want to sell them. My best advice is to provide quality, charge according to your time, and materials...and use quality materials ...you and the people buying will be happier in the end. Good luck
@@MichaelZurcher people are quite cheap over here, they won't be spending alot of money on an item they will barely use. And as someone who wants to start doing this I'll have to adjust my price to what you said. My resources are finite and I want to be paid accordingly. I'll make a few mistakes here and there but I'll just include this into my learning experience.
Thank you for your advice.
How much for a pen? I need a coupe for my business.
Please shoot me an email and I'd be happy to discuss things further! Mikezurcher@gmail.com 😊
I have the feeling that this pen is going to cost an arm and a leg!
Just a leg 😂😊 I do sell them, shoot me an email or send me a message on instagram or Facebook messenger if you are interested!
It's too thin! jk... looks great! 👍