Jordan B Peterson: Brilliant In-Depth Analysis of Harry Potter
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2017
- The Professor talks about the overarching themes of the story of Harry Potter, I found it incredibly interesting so I cut up this video with scenes from the movie and pics...
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From the original video on Jordan Peterson's channel "2015 Personality Lecture 03 Historical Perspectives - Heroic & Shamanic Initiations I: Mircea Eliade".
Jordan Bernt Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist, cultural critic and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are the psychology of religious and ideological belief, and the assessment and improvement of personality and performance. He authored Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief in 1999.
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"You're a wizard, peterson"
You're a professor, Peterson.
'You're a Doctor, Petey.'
Jordan Peterson could teach at Hogwarts. He could be the first Muggle professor in Hogwarts history.
What makes you think he's a muggle?
Wayne Urquhart My first response also! Hahaha...!
@@wayneurquhart1967 * harry potter earrape meme plays *
Way over my head Despotic Waffle. Cheers.
He casts spells through his incantations and gestures and leaves the audience spellbound. He's a wizard
I can't stop smiling knowing that Jordan Peterson read Harry Potter.💙
I want Prof. Peterson to explain how Michael Gambon could have interpreted _"Did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire?'" Dumbledore asked calmly"_ the way he did.
The director never read the book
I still want to see the version of Harry Potter where Patrick Stewart is Dumbledore. He would have done it right.
It’s the Director’s fault, not the actor, you Muggle 😂
Harry Potter and the Subterranean Elements
Harry Potter and the Understructure of Hogwarts
Also when Draco fixes the vanishing cabinet in the room of Prerequisite exigency
Harry Potter meets the Ninja Turtles!!@
BWAHAAA!!
Slay the basilisk, rescue your Ginny, roughly speaking.
Harry should have ended up with Hermione ;(
@@michaelqiu9722 Why? I mean, the typical answer is, 'they are both the best-looking ones and clearly the powerful young characters'. But, that actually doesn't always happen to humans and it's much deeper than that. I actually think it was more or less right what she did. It's very deep.
@@TheClassicWorld Luna was a better match. Either that or have Harry die and Neville finish Voldemort off.
@@michaelqiu9722 Harry should have ended up with the girl who is the best match for him. Which is Ginny.
@@stefan4159 Ron is a complete clown and Hermione is lowballed af.
"The man who stands up to predatory reptiles is most likely to attract women" does that mean Ill get a ton of chick if I start wrestling alligators?
no, it means that Chris Hansen gets all the pussy.
I was so surprised because in the same movie he's talking about, we have Gilderoy Lockhart who was laughably cowardly and is shown swooning women and girls.
tphillipoff *because* they all believed he was fighting dragons though (well, Trolls and Werewolves and Ghouls and Ghouls and Banshees). Lockhart proved Petersens point in that regard.
tphillipoff False celebrity. Even if that character did manage to slay a lot, he was most probably not able to retain anyone over long term. Just think of all the multiple Hollywood divorces.
Only if you win.
I can imagine J.K. Rowling sitting there listening, noding and saying quietly ,,yeaaah this was my intention all along...''
Haitani lol oddly reminds me of instances where design lecturers would infer unintended depth and symbolism from work. What else are ya to do? Smile and nod....
she'll tweet about it soon xD
The larger point is that it wasn't going on in her mind at all. Invoking these themes that show up again and again across cultures and across time is largely an unintentional process, which means our attraction to telling and hearing these stories with these mythological metaphors is something more innate and subconscious, which is part of JBP's main thesis. That the qualities and heroic process of growth that lead people to successful lives are so important that they have been, to some degree, biologically selected for, in many cases even before we differentiated into something approximating humans.
Dr. Liam A. Dye Some writers do write with intention.
They’re usually the bad ones.
Well at the very least she’s probably aware of these motifs, even if she didn’t consciously intend to put them in her books. She does have a degree in classics after all.
JK Rowling was just really great with archetypes. Which explains why it's so universally popular
Me: * JP on Harry Potter, nice *
JP: *YOUR PARENTS ARENT YOUR REAL PARENTS*
I want my magical mummy!
@@miguelthealpaca8971 JP: _grow up!_
"How To Stand Up To Predatory Reptiles In Order To Attract Females" by Jordan Peterson- The new self-help psychology hit thats flying off the shelves.
Yes when I was 11 years old and watched this I was thinking that exact same thing.
I’d pay just to see a lecture series where Jordan Peterson does this to all our childhood movies
Right him and Santos Bonacci would set the world on fire
In one sentence: overcome your fear and you will gain progress.
The video that we need is him analyzing NARUTO
Meh, we can do better than the poster child of Shounen. Send him a copy of Fate/Stay Night or Tsukihime's VN. Bet he'd have a fun time picking through those. Then to detox from all the seriousness send him Carnival Phantasm.
I'd rather see him analyzing GoT
@@transformer-3471 Eh, not really fantastic enough. That's just Dark Age with Dragons.
Transformer A.I. Channel maybe if it had a proper ending =/
And one piece
Weird though that the woman who wrote Harry Potter (I forgot her name) seems to be pretty much the complete opposite of Jordan Peterson in the opinions she has
So accurate. I can't understand why she spouts the bullshit she does if she's supposedly so intellectual
Her books reflect the collective unconscious rather than her conscious. It might be pretty random that specifically Rowling got that right.
Maybe. But do you ever get the feeling that if you could just write some random stuff and somehow be able to pass it off to Dr. Peterson as some ancient Sumerian fable or something he will start telling you all about it's meaningful symbolism and metaphors and lessons and all that? I don't mean it as disrespectful as it probably sounds the man is clearly way more intelligent than I am but, you know, he might be such a deep thinker that he overestimates the deeper thought in everything else
G0atboy ironcliy because many of the ideas she thought were her own actually were passed by other influences for exsample the hero journey
It's good pr
who makes these thumbnails?
Dzem a god-damn legend that's who
Someone who wants to grab your attention, causing you to click on their videos.
Jordan himself
a god-damn bucko that's who
Id pay everything I have to see a lecture of jp analyzing Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood
If we're going through these lines.
I'd pay any price to see a lecture of JP thoroughly analysing the entirety of all Final Fantasy chapters.
JBP should do an in-depth analysis of Neon Genesis Evangelion
i like to see the 2-hour-long video :D
Attack on Titan would be also nice. Especially because it has lot's of connections to Germany and how society works. #CarlSmitt
denNicola Haha that'd be great to see
Death Note would be interesting, too... or Fullmetal Alchemist. I doubt he watches anime or reads manga but I would really like him to analyse those two stories. Especially since they seem to somewhat fit his definition of art. The authors did not try their morale down our throats. They made characters who represent different ideologies and watched where they took the story.
Don't worry Bernie Sanders explained the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion
The Basilisk is also released through reading a book - I expect that plays into the "learning is dangerous" theme.
The book is also a diary, full of secrets about one's self. So this is about self-exploration?
But it's Tom Riddle's diary, not Ginny's. What does it say about an older man having private conversations with a young school girl? I think the dangerous learning here might be from a different book - Lolita, maybe?
You have to keep in mind that, while all these symbolism applie, perhaps it wasn't all what the author was going at. The point of Tom Riddle's diary is to show how Voldemort has always been Voldemort, and how much power, arrogance, and greed he already had in his younger years.
It's funny, I stopped journaling as I got into my 20s: I use to use a diary from age 11, well into my teens. Who knows? The subconscious has a very powerful influence on our lives, yet it's rarely fully apparent to us until after the fact.
It is a diary of a particularly heinous person; Voldemort - in the later installations of the series portrayed as something as terrible as a mixture of Hitler and the devil himself, so I suppose a direct parallel could be drawn to reading the works of evil men, like "Mein Kampf". I believe a reasonable analysis could be that reading the works of pathological people reveal the same instincts, thoughts and emotions in yourself, forcing you to face the devil in yourself; forcing you to accept that you too could be a nazi.
It could also be that the book called upon Harry's Shadow, the ugly past that marked him at birth and his own understanding of Voldemort and what Harry himself could become.
Jordan B Peterson is a type of guy who reads the label of toilet cleaner, while taking a dump, and in the end comes up with a logical explanation of evolution, universe and the reason why you are such a loser. Then gives you an example what someone could do in a situation like this.
LMFAO
And also why we should model society after lobsters'
Harry Potter have pretty specific themes though.
Plebeian I'm pretty sure that he just said that there are natural similarities. That's what he said in the interview where I saw it mentioned. Admittedly, it was referencing something he'd said previously that I didn't hear.
Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe. - Lex Luthor, “Superman”
i love the way that peterson who is religious, or at least religiously literate, helps an atheist like me develop a broadened spiritual perspective on myself and my psyche. to acknowledge the natural biological (and therefor flawd) nature of my mind.
If your atheist.. you should also find out who Santos Bonacci is. Thank me later. My babyboomer uncle who's 63 I turned him on to Santos Bonacci he's no longer screaming that "atheist" stuff. Once he watched a few videos of Santos Bonacci and Jordan Peterson, as well as Jordan Maxwell.
@@donsmoove3103 sry but no. Im not into cultism of any kind
I think JK Rowling is a better writer than people realize.
It's not like the idea is completely her's but the way she presented it to a story through children is great.
No, she's a far worse writter than people realize. But considering her audience, and the fact that the human brain can developpe the imaginary narrative she writes, it is good enough. The books are quite fine.
She’s a brilliant storyteller, but her writing isn’t amazing. It’s alright, but it not great.
You should read John Granger's work -- e.g. The Hidden Key to Harry Potter. He goes into depth on the wide variety of Christian symbolism in the books, and details the "morality play" that Peterson just missed some key points of in this video. Granger discusses the use of prejudice -- *including prejudice from our heroes* (defying this idea that the heroes have to be free of the Big Vices like racism/sexism/classism/etc.) and even bits that make the readers temporarily prejudiced to give us a slap in the face near the end of each book ("wake up to your own preconceptions! don't be so quick to judge when you don't have all the facts!").
He also details the ways in which Rowling references the Great Books, and the possibility that, if she had been a contemporary of Lewis and Tolkien, she could've been one of the Inklings, discussing the greater ideas throughout classical literature. (...she'd probably have had to have been male, too, but oh well.)
Granger may not have the right ideas all the time, and he may reach a bit (as Peterson does in this piece), but there's some fascinating thoughts and reasoning and I think it's improved my capabilities as a writer. Go look up his work.
Harry Potter saga is truly great work of art. Shame she diminished her work with her recent shoe horned forced LGBT theories to the books ...
@@Octavarium666xyz Hmm. In which way do you think this was shoehorned in?
From an article w/ JK on the series: Rowling confirmed that they echoed her personal struggle with faith.
The author said that she had always deflected questions on the issue in the past to avoid disclosing the direction in which the books were heading."To me, the religious parallels have always been obvious," Rowling said. "But I never wanted to talk too openly about it because I thought it might show people who just wanted the story where we were going."
Jordan Peterson talks about Avatar: The Last Airbender is all I want please
he would defend the fire nation and say its economic prosperity is a marker of inherent ideological superiority. though maybe he only goes that far regarding the west because everyone around him is attacking it. or he uses "the west" but means "the world" just like most postmodernists think the world is patriarchal in general but only refer to smaller structures at a time.
Hes right. JK Rowling even said that the books are heavily influenced by Christianity.
Did she? I've read and seen alot of her interviews over the years and never heard that. Obvs there's blatant comparable symbolism but I didn't know she'd ever said it was deliberately constructed as such. That seems so unlikely.
yeas she said that
@@rolddysurpris3862 er *where* ? In a written interview? In a video interview? In a live chat q & a? Like I know she's talked alot about the parallels in terms of theme and symbolism but I don't consider that the same as saying she deliberately infused those influences from a specifically Christian perspective, like Narnia for example.
in a written interview, search on yahoo news
@@rolddysurpris3862, that honestly tells me nothing.
I love it when he qualifies what he says.
WOW!! great analysis!! Thank you for the video!!
This is the best explanation of Harry Potter’s appeal to humans.
I thought the overarching theme of Harry Potter was that you can be an incompetent moron, coast through your classes, and be entirely dependent on subordinating the work you should be doing onto somebody smarter than you, and everybody will still think you're super smart because you wear glasses.
Scrunchy Howard Ah Draco - there you are...lol! By the way, are you usually so envious and resentful of fictional characters?? That says a lot about YOU...lol!
I think he was just making a joke.
Jordan Peterson doesn't wear glasses
Scrunchy Howard no, that's management
Not everybody .
More Peterson edits and I will be a recurring viewer. Thank you for the content.
Came for the thumbnail, stayed cause this content is awsome. Keep it up!
When we cry we mourn the person we used to be
Very insightful, thank you.
Man, I'd love to see Dr. Peterson do an analysis of something like Blade Runner. That'd be cool c:
Dr. Peterson is a freakin' wizard ....of the mind.
I want to hear JP breaking down Game of Thrones... now we know John Snow and Danarys Targaryan are both magic orphans - both have also been through symbolic death/rebirth (especially John Snow).
We also know that Daenerys is Jon Snow's aunt.
Creeeepy...
If this were to happen, then preferably the books since they go way way more deeper.
yeah, maybe hear which schlong symbolizes which thing.
I read your comment with JP s voice
The king dies and the hierarchy is broken and that bring war and chaos. The north declares independence and has its own king. A stark king. The starks had been ruling the north for thousands of years and the people in the north grew up with these stories. And because they grew up with these stories and the archetype of the king in the north and that king being a stark enveloped hand in hand. And because of this history and stories of the stark kings it was easy for the young lord stark to be made king of the north. His men fought for him because on a genetic level those stories told them that a stark is their king. Now the hierarchy and power structure of the stark king from those stories came with expectations. Honor, justice, and protection being among these. While the king kept this power structure intact they were winning all the battles but then the human female came in and through her seduction of the king broke the honor of the king and in doing so broke the trust in the patriarchy leading the north to a fall into chaos.
"Death is the precondition for learning." - That is also well depicted in the old Norse story of Óđinn sacrificing himself by hanging himself on a tree, pierced through by a spear for nine nights without food or drink in order to find the runes of wisdom after which he "fell back from there" (i.e. from death to life).
"Veit ec at ec hecc vindga meiði a
netr allar nío,
geiri vndaþr oc gefinn Oðni,
sialfr sialfom mer,
a þeim meiþi, er mangi veit, hvers hann af rótom renn.
Við hleifi mic seldo ne viþ hornigi,
nysta ec niþr,
nam ec vp rvnar,
opandi nam,
fell ec aptr þaðan."
Odin, crucified and pierced with a spear.
Great Horney Toads!
Hail Odin!
You see Norse-Christian mythos and this kind of journey throughout Tolkien's and Rowling's works, as well. They got it dead bloody right (most of the time). Tolkien is just remarkably deep and powerful and really true to a profound degree. That's why The Lord of the Rings is the best-selling novel of all time, and Harry Potter is one of the best-selling of all time.
Such a great series
this is great, i've read he went deeper than rowlling! this is what art is about! to find extra
lectures
It would be great to hear more of those thoughts on modern tales, cartoons or movies.
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Learning without thinking is darkness. Thinking without learning is dangerous.
this is honestly so mind-opening holy sheesh i loved harry potter as a kid but i never really put much thought into the symbolism behind it and i knew that the hp series is banned in a lot of schools without knowing why lollll now i know
I'm glad you said that
I love listening to him
The wyvern in the painting at 1:14 has so many similarities to the wing-a-ling burninator Trogdor. I wonder if that's where Strong Bad got the inspiration for his beefy armed drawing.
Also, the women standing to the left is by far the most terrifying part of the painting.
The thumbnail on this video is dope
Oh i love this. Brilliant !!!!
Jp makes for the best thumbnails.
the thumbnail is very nice
People in the middle ages for the most part didn't think of dragons as being that big. So just in case anyone was wondering that's why the dragon is smalll.
An inward path of becoming aware and reconciliating with ourselves facing many different forces. We create ideas that are inside of us.
Look for authors that are old witches in the book and corp of ideas like alchemy, magic, hermetism, transfiguration, etc.
Since the beggining there were people trying to understand ourselves and to express inner experiences, forces and paths through images and symbols.
Greatest psychologist of our age.
This is just brilliant
I am going to school to become a college Literature professor. I look up to you so much! What can I do to attend one of your lectures? I only hope one day I can be half the professor that you are.
@2:40 Harry learned about the horcruxes for the first time here too
Be interested to hear his thoughts on the enforced muggle underclass.
Just a racial thing like black and white
so nice
Aris has two sons, Phovos and Deimos. The first one freezes you with fear, the second makes you run with fear (fleeing - flight)
In Battle of Gaugamela, Alexander the Great ceremonial sacrifices, to Deimos as his army couldn't kill so many eneymies!!!
It´s funny that the German title of the movie actually translates more closely to "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Horrors" - not "Chamber of Secrets"
The thing about the parents is the similar to Hercules when he sings the song of going the distance, and he says to his mom and dad that they are the best parents in the world, but that he has to find who he his(in harry potter the "parents"(guardians) are a bit bad but you get the point
Would liked to have seen him finish his point
The story reminds me the battle of Gandalf on the bridge of Khazad-dûm with Balrog the dragon, in The Fellowship of the Ring... The gray wizard died and a white one emerge.
Gandalf fought a Balrog, not a dragon. It wasn't named Balrog either.
I’m not a fan much of potter but that Phoenix scene was dope af
warrior jack visually or symbolically?
Loved the thumbnail
I want to see Dr. Peterson analyzing JoJo's Bizarre Adventure :)
Quite deep indeed.
I haven't watched yet, but sometimes I think of Jordan Peterson as Dumbledore.
That .... makes sense. Its so logical why have I never seen that myself?
I never knew I'd like Harry Potter, let alone watch the movies. This man changed me!
Turkish Prostitute how much?
Turkish Prostitute was he not condemning it?
F E How was it condemning it?
I love the thumbnail to this video lol
Every young man needs to hear this.
A good friend of mine once proffered a similar deep Harry Potter analysis... A lecture that went on for so long there was only way out,
He ended it with the following closing statement: "But of course I haven't read any of the books or seen the films!" 🤔🇬🇧
Makes me wonder wtf I was reading when I read those books
There is one thing in the Harry Potter books that I really want to have analysed...
Sooo, Ron has this rat, which is actually a wizard in disguise, right?
And Rons brothers have the Marauders Map, which is not only showing each and every person around, but also shows their true identity. I.e. when Ron and Harry disguised as Crabbe and Goyle, the map would still have shown them as "Ron" and "Harry".
So the one thing that I find truly unsettling is... _why the hell Rons brothers never found it disturbing that their little brother Ron spends his nights with a 40-something year old man in one bed?_
Because it's a British boarding school. It's where you go to get laid underage at. any. cost.
I don’t recall Ron ever doing such a thing in the books. Care to elaborate?
He makes me want to watch Harry Potter 😂
Peterson's description of Harry Potter is very, very Jungian.
As such, I do recommend for people to read Jung, starting with "Man and his Symbols".
Though in the post-Jungian community some aspects of the archetype are challenged (the essentialistic view of anima, animus) and even the existence of the archetype per se is challenged (see Warren Colman's 2016 book), nevertheless, the numinosity of such symbolism is still highly regarded among the Jungian analysts and therapists.
I really want Peterson to do an exploration of the Halo video games. Master Chief could be considered a Christ-like savior figure, but at the same time he's almost inhuman up until the end of the third game, and throughout the 4th and 5th. He's cold, merciless, the perfect killing machine, but he still demonstrates restraint. Really interesting dude.
Growth, Decay and Transformation.
That reminds of a nice Chemistry Teacher, later he got Lung Cancer, pray for Mr. White.
Mind blown
Jordan enters the roon:
Its like story in the second part of harry potter...
Yeah, even James bond 007 is an orphan.
He got M like a parenting figure and he uses his difficulties and circumstances to learn.
Which symbolises nature teaching him lessons.
The only problem I have with the interpretation is that Ginny does not derive from Virginia or virgin, but from Ginevra, which comes from Guinevere, which the site behindthename derives like this: from gwen, meaning "fair, white" and sebara meaning "phantom, magical being". Kind of an amiguity fallacy with the name there, which is ironically very postmodern approach to the text.
Where did this video get snatched?
I don’t think the repeated child of two worlds stories are a result of people being anxious to copy another. I think it’s due to an interest in an appealing narrative of either something foreign discovering it’s more normal than expected or someone seemingly normal discovering it’s less normal than expected. It’s a good setup for an adventure. And good stories are good adventures of one sort or the other.
Making eye contact with a Basilisk in HP is supposed to kill you, not paralyses you.
The reason why some of the characters were petrified, is because they were either a ghost (cannot die) or they looked at the Basilisk indirectly.
People talking about Rowling not having these ideas are missing the point. She took her basic plot from an existing story, and it's from that story - St. George, that most of these ideas come. She doesn't need to have understood any of it for those elements to carry over into her story. She just needs to have copied them. And I'm not saying she plagiarized - just that the basic model of the story is similar enough to lend itself to a similar interpretation.
he is amazing
I will never look at a HP movie the same again.
Jordon is a funny guy.
I read the Harry Potter books and liked them each, with the exception of book 2. Now I know why.
5 minute in depth. God.
Jordan should do an in-depth analysis on BERSERK
Read the books before you criticize them the movies are different
If Rowling did this intentionally, I am now interested in her stories. It's not for the story but for the symbolism that is universal to life and how she got kids to read those themes when they were unwilling to read anything else.
Another idea: Harry Potter and the CHAMBER OF SECRETS. So, by slaying the 'dragon', did the hero chance upon some secret knowledge? Or conversely, in order to saly the 'dragon', did he have to gain some secret knowledge?
It doesn't matter if JR Rowling intended it or not. Peterson is describing archetypical/mythological themes which are expressed in Harry Potter. The story is an expression of universal motifs, which mirror inherited unconscious structure and functioning of the psyche common to all human beings. This goes beyond a single artist and is a necessary precondition for all meaningful stories about herohood.
I personally wouldn't say ALL meaningful stories about herohood. If you're talking about the archetypes studied by Joseph Campbell and Christoper Vogler, I do believe you don't have to include all the universal themes. But you are right, the more of these hero tropes, or repeated ideas you don't include in your story, the less it will resonate with people on that level.
I'd like to see him analyze DIRTY POTTER
Professors like this were non-existent at my university.
Can we get him to analyse Ghost in the Shell?
Read the books! Or listen to Steven Fry's audio book. Its worth it.