How to setup your Radio or DSP to feed an Epicenter
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this is what ive been waiting for. cheers
Always great stuff
Finally someone who can explain, I called audio control and all they said was to set monoblock at full range... literally all they recommended
according to audiocontrol the epicenter should be installed before anything else, this allows to properly analyze full spectrum harmonics and better, cleaner bass restoration after that you woould feed that signal into the dsp's sub input and tune from there
He sets the DSP to give a full range signal without any crossovers to the output going to the Epicenter
This what I want to b know before or after dsp???
I like to have my epi at the front of the signal chain as an input option into the head unit, in front of all crossovers, you have to be careful of your gain set up as the epi can be set to overdrive the inputs, but this allows for the full effect of the epi circuitry to be applied and let the crossovers direct those effects through the speakers as best applied via crossovers. You can adjust crossovers in the head unit or along the chain to achieve a variety of effects. sometimes a narrow band of Epi effects is desired sometimes a wider range of effects sounds better. just my two cents, I prefer to have full range into the epi for sure with options to narrow the frequencies if desired. Thanks for the insights, good info.
Very good explanation!!! Couple of issues I'm having though with DSPs and Epicenters/bass processors. I have a Stetson Bluetooth processor that I'm considering installing before my preamps to clean up the sound from the head unit before any further amplification. I'll have 4 channels of selectable A, B and AB outputs (or combined as 2 since 1 output has to be split to connect an amp from one output. Meaning 1&2 would be a left and right if used straight). Using it this way I could tune channel 1 however I like and run it to the preamp let's say on the right input, #2 however would be on the left input both controlled by the preamp fader as a mids and highs preamp. Channels 3 and 4 would go to the inputs of the second preamp for midbass/midrange and bass. I think this would increase my tuning capabilities. I also think DSPs have the same features as Epicenters. Select the frequency in the parametric EQ (sweep), adjust it's Q (wide), boost or cut, adjust gain, etc. with tons of more tuning options. The preamps I use have subsonic filters from 30-300hz.
Man I had a epicenter in my old set up. I sold my car with my music but kept my epicenter and my subs. My new set up I'm gonna do next month, I'm adding the dm-608 and putting back in my epicenter. I love the epicenter especially for some of the music genre that I listen to. Im never running without an epicenter. I can't wait to try the dm-608.
Digging the short videos! I don’t wanna run an epicenter, but you make me want to lol.
I know this is an old video but in the epicenter manual it tells you to put it before any processor
This ppl are awesome 😎
Thank you for the video. I have a question about my dsp I have a 17 ram with stock head unit with no factory amp I have replaced all stock speakers with Rockford Fosgate punch 6x9 an 3.5 dash and 5 channel Rockford amp with dsp being dsr1 I also have all harness from datalink my question is why does my sound does not come in tell 18 and my max volume is 30 I have 0 sound from 0 to 18 thanks for any info
Fernando is definitely the actor from 'Employee of the month'
Two questions why don't you just turn off the low-pass filter on the pioneer subwoofer output and let the full range pass and the epicenter has a subsonic filter on it would you also use the subsonic filter on the amp too?
I was under the impression Epicenter goes before DSP. Maybe You are assuming the DSP only has 2 inputs.
Mine is 4x8 I'm gonna go sub outputs to epicenter and then epi to ch 3 and 4 on the DSP. I'm not sure what range my Alpine sub out does. It is in "defeat" mode though. I'll have to test it. DSP handles all the crossover, eq, delay. So I still get Sub level adjustment, plus the Epi knob.
Hello thank you for all yiur awsome videos,as the future advances so does car audio,I need help on a question,I have a Jeep Cherokee kL trailhawk Addition but the sound system is the 8.4 screen and has only six speakers it’s not the fancy alpine that comes in some of them,Anyhow I want to keep the stock head unit I do have a LC7i I am going to be running a four channel amp for the mids and highs and Amp for the P threes as far as harness goes what would I need to get by the way doing Fosgate 6 x 9’s in the doors and I have the adapters to plug and play already
Would the kicker key 200.4 be enough power for the kenwood 6x9 and 3.5 components? Paired with the key 500.1, in a dodge challenger with premium, should I get an amppro still?
I've found that a LP filter of 800hz and below is all the Epicenter needed.
Can you actually tune your amp with the epicenter in line
If I use a line converter with acubase from audio control will I have use with a epicenter
Does the HU setting apply if I’m only using the DSP for subs?
i need a more in depth video tutorial on this topic
So...how is a normal person who has a normal 4 channel headunit supposed to hook up the epicenter to it? since appraently the sub channel isnt full range, and the other 4 channels are already being taken up buy the front and rear rcas to the 4 channel amp?
Is the dsr-1 good if you want pure sound quality on a budget
hey five star,i have a factory radio/eq/lc6i/kicker front row,where to connect the epicenter after the front output?
Thinking about Epicenter to help w classic rock and stuff. I still listen to all kinds of modern stuff. Sealed 12”s.
How would epicenter affect Setup w REW and a DSP? Running Alpine 149bt to DSP-408 to 4ch and monoblock. You are saying to run sub full and use amp crossover now? Do you know if the sub out on the alpine is full range?
Epicenter conundrum
accubass or epicenter can I only have one?
How are you able to take advantage of the accubass from the lc2i if the epicenter requires the full range channel where the lc2i pro doesn’t offer accubass.
Want to try out the xfire dsp but I don’t understand it
Is Boss BV800ACP with CarPlay a good head unit?
Can you do a video with a dsp and a esp2 or 3 please thank you!
Using a pioneer avh head unit (avh 4800bs) do i use the sub channel or front or rear rca to go in to the epicenter? Not sure which is the right way: using sub channel with the low pass off on the hu or the front or rear rca with the low/high pass off ? What im confused about is if i use the sub channel with low pass off on the hu, will it allow all frequencies to pass or since its a sub channel does it only allow like 15hz to 250hz range since its the sub channel vs the front or rear which may be 15hz to 10000khz? Hope u can answer. Thanks
I have a pioneer deq 7600 ,do I connect it from, the stereo to the epicenter to the eq
Haven’t watched it fully yet so not sure if u talk about this yet lol but how do I wire my epicenter to be able to still be able to turn it down and play rap music but still have power going to the amp
So, with the Epicenter Plus, I'm experiencing some artifacts in the "restoration" of some music that has simple bass lines. In a particular song, the bass will either cut out or it will sound like the bass player got confused started playing the wrong notes. Do you happen to know what would cause this? My Epicenter is still factory set.
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will this send me to clip city? say I turn up the knob for rock or corridos
Hey guys I have a kicker iq1000.5 amplifier and I have a helix dsp mini. I wanted to use the helix as my dsp and not the built in one on the amp. Is the subwoofer crossover defeatable on the kicker amp? Or should I use the helix dsp subwoofer crossover. If I set a slope of 12 dB on the amp and 12 dB on the dsp does it become 24 dB d slope? I’m confused on this
which is better AudioControl DM-810 8 by 10 Channel Matrix Digital Signal Processor or 3SIXTY.3????
how can i add a dash eq using lc7i?
On tu da nex one guyz!
The little possum say BYEEEEEE. lol
What if your radio is outside of your car with 6 equalizers
I thought the epicenter needed to be set for the midwoofers too?
I have a question. I have a AM head unit, speakers, amps and a DSP. I don't want to use the inferior crossover of the amplifier. Will I use the 250 hz crossover point of the DSP into the epicenter and then to the amplifier? The DSP has a cx slope of 24db, L-R, respectively. I love that! I believe if I use the 12db cx of the amp, it will be additive, resulting in 36 db/octave. It's a kicker amp, DXA 1200.1.
AM is aftermarket. The speakers are AM as well.
What if you have an equalizer do I use the rca from the deck to the equalizer out to the epicenter or ?
You can do that but the most important thing is that you have to feed the epicenter an unfiltered signal. If the eq have a low pass crossover that can't be turn off, then you're not gonna send a full range signal to it.
Could I run my epicenter on the Subwoofer output on a Alpine CDE172BTI believe it's a mono output thanks
They like a stereo full range input with at least 20-800hz frequency response.
On the example with the pioneer radio you showed raising the lpf to 250hz but couldn't you just turn the lpf off on the headunit sub out thus providing the full range signal and then route the level out to the epicenter, then monoblock and lpf there?
ditto? i am seeking this same answer to this question. I have a Pioneer AVIC-8201NEX with a front, rear and sub outputs. Am i supposed to use one of the front or rear outputs from my head unit? or is the sub output able to send full range signal also?
@@GreenIz510 If you turn off the lpf on the sub out its full range. This imo is the correct way to run this setup.
I just wish more people worked on Lexus. Then I could get help finding a spot to make a "Fernando Fuse Mount". There's like no where to put one in a V8 Lexus engine bay...at least not within 18"....=(
Can an epicenter be installed with a factory amp on my 2020 accord with the 450watt system?
Epicenter just for sub amp. doesn't need for factory multi-channel amp
Could use the dsp if I only had the sub amp ,what would be my benefit?
Iam no expert but I don't think there would be a benefit at all due to the fact that it wouldn't have any other speakers to tune with and would be a lot of money wasted for just a sub
If you turn off the low pass filter on the head won’t you get full range to the Epicenter?
That's what i was thinking
Do you "need" a DSP to use the Epicenter? If your radio has six channel output, can you simply use the two for sub output to run into the Epicenter? Or, would it still be best to use a DSP so you can send full range signal to the Epicenter?
An Epicenter does not require a DSP, feed it a full range input from the radio then let the sub amp do the LP filter
Hi Sir. Thank you so much for posting the video.
Please advise. I can't get my subwoofer to produce 20Hz bass; it still has punchy bass, which I don't want.
Should I use an aftermarket cross over like "boss" to get the 20Hz wavy bass?
I have a 12 inch, 2000watt Pioneer sub in ported box (responsive to 20Hz) with a dedicated Pioneer mono block 1000Hz amp in my car. The remaining midranges and tweeters each have their own 6 channel pioneer amplifier. Finally, I have a graphic equalizer.
Please advise, sir, if I should get a cross over
I, and tune it to 20zHz ? I have tried using several graphic equalizers, but none of them had a 20Hz bass knob to enable this kind of bas.s
I have a question about the RCAs.
My aftermarket head unit has Front Out, Rear Out and Sub Out. (Stinger Heigh10)
My DSP (PRV Audio 2.8x) has A and B inputs and 8 outputs.
I then have three amplifiers (all mono amps); 1 for Tweeters, 1 for Mids and 1 for Subs.
How would you run the RCAs? A 6-channel RCA from the Head Unit to the DSP? If so, where would you connect the six channel RCA on the DSP? Would you then run individual 2 Channel RCAs to go from each output to the specific amplifier?
What about the remote turn on? How would you run that? A single run from the Head Unit to the DSP? Then three individual runs from each amp to the DSP?
I need a lot of help lol
You need to do more research. It is obvious to me that you haven't even read the manual for your dsp. Start there.
Also, you need a 4 channel amp for those tweeters and mids. Mono amps aren't meant to be used for speakers where you will have a left and right input.
I wouldn't even try to install a system with your current level of knowledge. It doesn't sound like you have any clue how car audio works. I recommend this channel, as well as caraudiofabrication. Mark from CAF makes really good short instructional videos that are well explained.
@adam entrekin
You literally added your 2 cents just to be relevant. If you’re not going to answer my questions, please don’t comment. If I’m asking the questions here, clearly I’m trying to educate myself.
If you haven’t run full range mono amplifiers on multiple speakers before, I would suggest you do your research. Now get off my post.
Why wouldn't you run the epicenter before the DSP?
Why? he stated a bunch of times that he's giving it full range unfiltered channel like if was coming out from the head unit. Do better pay attention
Why not turn off LPF on the deck? Give the epic full bandwidth and let the epic, dsp and or amp do the filtering.
When you guys watch the video, do you guys pay attention he's giving it full range literally mentions it bazillion times 😂
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2 mins in and i'm lost
Same thing. I watched it again at .75 speed. Now I get it.
He doesn't have a clue