First look Epicenter Micro by AudioiControl
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If you listen to old music where the low frequencies were mastered out of the recording the epicenter is the piece you want. It looks at upper harmonics and recreates the missing low frequencies. It is not a simple bass boost.
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Love it! Wish they would add that epicenter to the DSPs like the 810. Would be nice to have everything in one unit.......
Was thinking the exact same thing. I'm running optical to a DM810, which means my Epicenter has to run after the crossovers which is the reverse of how it should be. Yes, I can and do run the crossover built into the amp, but it provides less control and shallower slope than the DSP has. And as we all know, Accubass is not the same. Honestly I think the Epicenter is more useful given the varying recording quality and compression used in the last 2 decades.
Agreed! I have an 810 and an Epicenter and would love both in one
I have the 810 and want to add a epicenter to it. Does it get added before the 810?
@@cummins5216 after and on the sub channel but make sure you open up the Crossover Slope for the sub in the the 810
@@rocky6428 thank you very much!! I just installed a active system over the weekend and used the 810. Still pretty new to all this… trying to learn but after seeing It now I think it would benefit adding a epicenter especially playing music off phone.
got this in the mail yesterday and I installed it and I am truly impressed, by far the best audiocontrol epicenter I have ever owned. This also solved my issue I had with the epicenter plus...I was experiencing an effect signal when the knob was completely turned down, i dont know if my two sundown 6k's liked it.....the micro solved that problem and the bass knob giving out a clean signal....5⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hey Dean, would of been nice to hear it more than 1 second. I love the fact that is so compact and versatile. New game changer. Zup’ Fernando.
Wow that is a sweet multi-layer board. So cool to see this tech getting to other devices. Also no more internal jumpers.
How would I add 2 amps one for highs a one for sub? Do I got to add a wye?
should have used pink noise instead to demonstrate the width. won't really show up with a sine wave on a single frequency
Woudld be nice if they would have added a gain to control the input voltage like the wavtech bass restore
I have an after market head unit and subwoofer amp and door amp/speakers for my 2015 F150 crew cab.
Do you recommend the above mentioned items for my system? I want to maximize my bass as much as possible, I do not have a spending limited.
Waiting for this micro epicenter is is like waiting for the speed utv. Come on already!!!!!!!!
Now my question would be, how much will this affect the amp gains after being perfectly set to match the subwoofer. I normally would set the gains with the bass remote level maxed out, But then when you introduce the amplification on the lower frequency with the epicenter how much will that raise the amp gain?
So if I don't need the loc part and don't need it to be smaller is it worth the extra $50 for this vs the regular epicenter?
LOL, even for a test lab Dean has to have zip ties!
When is the iRTA going to be available to the public?
Damnit. Just received my epicenter yesterday, that micro one would fit so much better behind my truck seat.
Great to know
I have stock stereo and the LC2 Pro is the Epicenter micro replace the Pro?????
Helps with some chop and screw tracks too where the bass drops to those low frequencies
Is there any benefit in adding one of these if I already have a kicker keyloc?
So this micro epicenters new knob can adjust how much Bass restoration we want, plus the smaller knob can turn the bass output ALL the way down, and then up to 100%? I ask because i find my amplifiers bass knob annoying that ALL the way down= is not 0😒
They never said it will turn the bass level all the way down. If you have too much attenuation you lose sensitivity. All the bass knobs I'm familiar with will only turn it down a certain amount but not totally because nobody wants that functionality.
@@JasonWW2000 Im not sure why you say NOBODY wants to turn it all the way down. Most of the people i talk to, including myself would love the Bass knobs to be able to go all the way down. You see the cops, you want to be able to turn the Bass down instantly, you dont want to fumble for the remote for the deck, or try to turn down the volume knob, many take waaay to long to turn down. Also when giving sound demos its nice to have full Bass volume control. Luckily for me since posting this question, i have since talked to a tech guy @ Audio Control, and he said that this dual function Bass knob control on the micro, can be turned ALL the way down= Awesome, and the other thing that is Awesome is the PFM on this micro when set to on= 20Hz (Hpf), and set to off= 10Hz (Hpf)! Most people dont know this but the other epicenters with a Pfm are factory set to 33Hz= will severily limit, Low tuned enclosures output below 33Hz! Luckily AC sells other freq. Pfm directly from them, except for the indash epicenter= has a unadjustable Pfm set to 33Hz😢
@@evilinside5984 Nobody means like 90+%. Obviously there are a few who would like it to go all the way down. Did you buy it? Is there enough control to fine tune the volume level? I'd be concerned that a little turn would have too much change and I'd have a hard time adjusting it to exactly the level I want.
@@evilinside5984 BTW, the indash unit has a button to turn off the filter.
@@JasonWW2000 Btw, that button is to be able to turn the restoration on, or off. The Pfm is factory set @ 33Hz, and can not be adjusted, or bypassed, unless you were to unplug the rcas from the indash units inputs. I verified this with the Audio Control tech guy. As i wanted to buy the indash epicenter, until i heard that, as i have a very low tuned enclosure, and play lots of songs between 15Hz and 29Hz! I really wanted to be able to use that Db meter, just for fun, giving demos. But that 33Hz Pfm would totally kill what i designed my enclosure to do. Also Audio Control said they dont have a Dual Bass remote that will work with the indash epicenter unit. I would only recomend the indash epicenter unit for people with ported enclosures tuned between 33Hz and 43Hz @ the highest.
So would there be any benefit to adding this between my LC5i Pro and JL Audio XDM700/5? System is a stock 2015 RAM 8.4 uConnect head unit and subs are JL Audio 10s in a sealed box under the rear seat. Thanks!
Hello, great video I installed my epicenter and the knob to goes with it but in my case, for some reason, the volume level drops on my knob is plugged in when I unplug it my volume is louder. Weird. But without the bass knob, everything is perfect.
Same here, did you find a fix for this ?
It's quite possible that the volume level knob is basically an attenuator. So you're going to need to set up your signal level and gains with the knob plugged in.
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Priceless info
So is this better then the original epic center
1 street
I wish more of your videos were short and concise like this one, instead of the usual longer vlog format that’s cool but only when one has loads of time… 😕.
Thanks for sharing!
Well, keep in mind, you can have your playback set higher than normal. I run all videos in 1.5 or 1.75 just because time is precious and UA-cam offers a whole bunch of stuff I want to learn.
So if my vehicles stock signal drops off below 30 hz, would this be able to restore down to atleast 20hz?
I'm trying REAL hard to understand this stuff before I build out my new car...
Wow, 3 videos in 1! ( 2 new products,& car stereo lab)!!! Could the micro work in place of lc1?
Yes
@@FiveStarCarStereoInc release date?
How much?🤔 if you get another one I would appreciate if you sent it to me for free...🤘🤣🤙nice until and good review.😁👍
How do you connect and use the epicenter with a d5.1300 using factory radio and no rca cables?
I have a 2014 Equinox with the Pioneer 8 speaker stereo. I want to add two 4 channel amps and a single subwoofer amp. Could you recommend a product for me?
Is there a release date?
What's up guys it was great meeting you at in Vegas at Sema.? Does anyone know when this Epic Center is actually coming out. Looking forward to purchasing a couple of them.
so i dont need my lc2i pro running factor radio will this act as line driver?
This is what I need
Play Rebecca Pigeons spanish Harlem.
Apparently you cannot use Brasilian amps with this epicenter,,.. I believe powerus is the one accept up to 7.5 v.. but powerus amps are overpriced way too much,, that's why I ended up getting the deaf bounce apocalypse 4900.1
Why you can't I have an epicenter hooked up to bass 8k it works fine
@@pbrown9965 cuz taramps get early clipping. I mean they work ok but by the time you want to get it's maximum output the amplifier clips.. and you cannot hear it, but is killing your subs. I rather stay away from taramps honestly..
This epicenter micro is not a line driver, it will only output as much voltage as you put into it. So it should work fine with any amplifier
@@ricardojuarez291but you can control the output voltage with this epicenter and set it to 5V, that wouldn’t work? I think the most Voltage the taramps will take is 5v or is it 2v? I think is 5v if I remember well
@@iKevin_22 hello there!! Yes you can actually manipulate the epicenter for better performance and match the output with the amp, BUT taramps requires only 0.250 millivolts Wich is barely a touch of the gain, because your headunit puts out 2.0v so by the time you adjust the gain is already clipping, even tho you have clean signal from headunit, eq or DSP.. taramps didn't work for me, I'm happy with my 4900.1 deaf bonce apocalypse Wich accept a up to 8v.. BUT I'm really interested in slaps audio amp 8k.. for under 500 bucks it's a deal
What's the release date? I thought it was going to be in November. What do you think the price would be?
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Do you know if the epicenter micro will work on a 2015 ford focus ST with Sony OEM sound system for a subwoofer amplifier? Thank you
The epicenter needs to be fed a full range signal and the output is going to be fed into an amplifier that has a built-in crossover in it. So to work in your focus you would probably have to tap into the front door speakers in order to get a full range signal and then feed that into the epicenter and the output would then go into your aftermarket amplifier with a built-in crossover.
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That song really needs one, and sounds awesome with the Epicenter, the way it should have on the released version. I don't have a micro...yet, but have played that song with the standard one many times.
@@89grand yes agreed my dbx pa 2 has a epicenter feature built into it but it totally sold me on getting one for my car I can't wait for these to be released perfect for eqing songs from the 80s that don't bump that should
pfm or subsonic fixed at 24hz? minimum output voltage is 5v? can i run this Epicenter micro for my monoblock with max rca input voltage is just 2v?
The subsonic filter can be turned off if you want to. Yes, minimum output voltage can be set to 5 V. Of course you can run it on an amplifier that has a 2 volt input.
Very similar to Wavtech bassRestor 🤔
Is it really a line driver? I'm only getting 2v from my head unit sub preout puts. Would be nice if Would bump it up to 5v..
I think it can only output as much voltage as you put in it.
I have lc2i installed in '15 Accord but do not want to loose Accubass. Would i be able to add on epicenter micro to Lc2i to get both Accubass + Epicenter effect?
Lc2i->micro->amp works, I have it in my system and sounds amazing
What's the price on the mini epicenter
Will this still fix the bass roll off? Or should I get the pro model
what did u end up getting
@@TheLawlessGang kicker keyloc
This product is not designed to fix bass roll off it's designed to restore base that was removed during the recording and mastering process.
Hi,somebody knows when is the relase date.
Hope they tested it before sale. Like over heating
Wavetech already got something very similar to that
I love mine but I only one issue is when you turn up the bass knob the second knob goes up with it as well. Is anybody else does the same thing
I heard others say it sticks, maybe give audio control a call.
So, theoretically speaking, one could take the main signal and run it into an Epicenter input and then run the output to a DM-810 and use the input signal RTA to tune the Epicenter?? 🤔
Yes you could
Woho like 888, what did i win, a mini :D
Can this replace my loc ? Or does it need the loc to work ?
This has an LOC in it, so it can probably replace the one that you already have.
Funny voice cracked at 6:33 lololo
Can I use the speaker to rca converter to feed the rca in the micro to filter the bass out of the rca converter?
No, the RCA inputs can only accept a limited amount of voltage. For higher voltage speaker wires you want to use the speaker wire input. Those can handle much higher voltage. This device is not going to filter out any Bass.
How does this compare to JL Audio's line? Fix and Twk. Are those able to do that this does too?
No, the Epicenter is a completely different processor. It's a bass synthesizer.
so can i put this instead of the LC2i im on stock head unit
what did u end up doing im in the same dilema
Would you recommend this or kicker key components for 2021 accord with the 8 speaker setup
The epicenter is a completely different device compared to the kicker key components. You can use one or the other or both depending on your needs.
Will the 2 function knob work with the other models ? If so, where can I get one?
No, it won't.
If you already have a high/low converter, should you replace with this or just run the rca’s to it?
Depends the quality of the hi lo.
Just got mine yesterday!
Hey Dean and Fernando I have a question
Can you hook up a Parking Brake wire to the ground for the factory ground for the radio
You want to make sure the radio has a proper ground. Are you asking about how to bypass a safety device on a particular radio? You're going to need to do research on your particular radio and how it can be bypassed.
My thumbs up is to the video editor.
Awesome content and 1st with the news
Can you connect two amps to just one of these
Yes, you're basically going to just split the output signal and run it into your amplifiers.
What frequency are you setting the amp at ?
The amp crossover frequency is going to be something you will want to adjust by ear. It's all dependent on how much upper bass frequencies you want to hear. Generally speaking, most people set their subwoofer crossover to between 60 hertz and 80 Hertz.
I'm running kicker key setup 200.4 and 500.1. Do I need to run this Epicenter Micro??? I'm guessing No.
What do you mean by need? Do you need a subwoofer? No, but you probably want a subwoofer. So the question is really whether or not you want to have the additional low-frequency bass that's not in the original recording.
No Epicenter let's you get more of a today's bass for older tracks of music back in the day.
@JasonWW2000 I have an kicker tl7t 12" solo baric under the seat of my F150. Just wondering would thus epicenter add anything substantial to my setup????
@@jamesf1505 It depends on the type of music you listen to. If you listen to music that already has deep, low bass then you won't use it. If you listen to music that doesn't have it, like rock, old rap, etc... then it can add extra bottom end.
Thanks
Can you do a comparison between a ACR-3 vs ACR-4?
The function differences…..
Right now the 4 only works on the micro.
@@FiveStarCarStereoInc but is the functionality the same thing basically ? I’m wondering if they are a “bass knob and effect “ knob all in one…..? As in if I’m running a Epicenter can I still control the actual bass level from amp and epicenter function? For instance if I’m listening to a 70’s song and then next song is made by metro boomin….one song needs bass injected and one is full of bass already….one I’d use the Epicenter effect and the other I wouldn’t need it….
I’m late but I have a question can i use the epicenter after the lc 2 pro? Thank you
Yes, but the only function the lc2 is going to give you is the accubass feature. The epicenter can do all the other functions of the lc2 pro.
@@JasonWW2000should I just skip the lc2i pro for the AccuBASS and just get the epicenter micro?
@@DirtyKk Accubass and Epicenter are two different things. It depends on what you need/want.
If your factory headunit limits the bass output at higher volume levels then the Accubass will correct that.
If you listen to music lacking low bass, listen to satellite radio or stream from a somewhat low quality source (like regular youtube) then the Epicenter can create low bass and it works at all volume levels.
Some people use both, it just depends.
I need this in my liiiiife
Question does the new control knob use the same cable as an ACR1? Trying to just swap out the knob set and add the micro when it comes out without having to rerun a new cable
I would assume so, but lets wait and see- I’ve used same rj cable when swapping in/out acr1 and acr3, but it could be different because of the added remote knob
@@christiandshatto7765 good news i heard from Audiocontrol and its the same cord.
@@Oldnobrand 😎😎😎
I want one let’s go!!’
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Seems like it’s really just a bass parametric EQ, right? I can see where it’s handy but I’m missing the magic
Try it with and without
I thought the same thing
Yes and no. It adds ability to change the Q and the center freq. Most parametric EQ can only select center freq. Best thing is it creates bass where there is no bass. There is some music where the bass is just very low. 80's/90's rock and Spanish music. Also takes your wild bass tracks to even higher heights. My advise try one and see if you like it.
No, it's totally different. A bass eq can only cut or boost the bass that's in the recording. The Epicenter creates bass an octave lower than what's in the recording. They have a sweep and width control, to control what frequency and the width of the bass that's created.
Is it possible to use the epicenter in correlation with a dsp?
Yes, after the DSP before the sub amp
Yes I’m using a epicenter and a DSP
@@FiveStarCarStereoInc Are you sure about this? I ask for two reasons. One, the standard Epicenter needs a full range stereo signal to work, it won't work on limited frequency range (80hz or so and down), or a mono signal. Two, what's the point in using it as a LOC, if it has to be mounted after a DSP, that would need a LOC between the headunit and the DSP?
Yes before the DSP
@@89grand long as it's before any crossover it works fine
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Can i use both the high level inputs and RCA in it and it’ll just switch to whichever input is providing the signal or once highlevel is hooked up it won’t pick up signal on RCA’s or viceversa?
And does it HAVE to be hooked up straight to the subwoofer amplifier? If it works from 160hz down i’d think my 8” midbass playing down to 60hz could also benefit from the Epicenter effect if i go from Epicenter into DSP and then into sub amp, No??
Who have to choose an input it has no switching capabilities. As for the other give it a try
Hate when you just BS ... PFM is Programmable Frequency Match
No Bs here. It is not a made up Acronym. Give Audiocontrol a call if you like.
Will the level controller work for the previous epicenter ?
No
@@FiveStarCarStereoInc I guess micro it is then. I was wondering the same thing. The traditional epicenter is all I need but the new ACR4 would be ideal
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10:46 For this kind of music the Epicenter was surley not build. Take a music example with an electronic bass. Then you will hear, or in case you have a subwoofer that can provide some dB more than in this example, feel where the epicenter is [the Epicenter is known to sound the best in combination with panpipe music ^-^].
The tech in the Epicenter was originally built to restore bass for records.( a long time ago)
Seems like a manual DSP. For people that like to be in total control of there bass.
This is doing something that no DSP is able to.
Is there a release date and price yet?
I called audiocontrol about it two weeks ago and they said they are planning on having it out around the holidays. So hopefully that means around the first of the year.
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