The benefit of having high voltage output on car amplifiers for RCA connections primarily revolves around improved noise rejection and reduced stress on the amplifier. High voltage preamp outputs allow for a reduction in the gain required by the amplifier, which in turn reduces the potential for noise in the system. This is because a higher input voltage to the amplifier means that the amplifier does not have to work as hard to amplify the signal to the desired level, leading to less distortion and a clearer sound
Just ordered one with your link and discount code.
This DSP is clean and works really well.. Thank you for the true and real review..
@BitJeffAudio where can I get a manual and the android app? Can they be tuned by a PC if desired?
@bbriankb1086 can't use a PC but you could use a tablet so you have a bigger screen. I use mine on an iPad
The Android app you link does not work. I can not get the EQ to work at all it shuts off the app every time on Android I have a 14-day return policy I would like to get this working? Version 1.2.7.
This has problems I bought 3 my expert never gave this tuning problems
After a thorough review of dsp on the market i ended up going with this one thanks in large part to your video. I have had it for over a week now and it has totally changed the game of my system. I love bein able to run the dsp app straight from my android headunit and then using the dayton immc-6 mic connected to my phone to rta tune my system. Couldnt recommend this enough if you have a similar setup 👍 im still learning new things about dsp control and each thing i learn improves everything that much more.
I'm glad I came to your channel today. I have been looking at dsp's for a couple months now. Was about to buy a refurbished jl audio twk 88 for over 350$ or buy new for 500$. I just bought the btx8 because of your review. Your info and reviews have always been solid plus when saving that much money I had no choice but try it lol. Thank you
Good timing sir ❤😊 I getting this one to my instal ❤️🏆🖤
I too have a 2013 Nissan Armada platinum but I’m curious if you have the big 3 done on your’s, & if so what did you do about the “RVC” “VVCS” on the stock neg battery cable!? Did you by-pass it or was you able to get a 1/0 through there! I’ve searched forums and everything but can’t find a definitive answer! It look like I could only fit a 4 gauge thru it but I plan to get a HO alt later so will have to upgrade a figure it out the 1/0 later anyway! Anything helps thanks bro and keep up the good work!🫡💪🏼💯 Also I just picked up the stetsom bt dsp! I seen your review after I purchased it!
If you drive all the dsp channels will the 5 Volt clip go down to the 3.5 Volt advertised? I wonder how much the small power supply in those dsps can handle in real world applications.
Having high RCA voltage is very important if you want to keep the gain down on your amplifiers to avoid a high noise floor. Alot of amps with poor signal to noise (manufacturers LOVE to lie about the s/n numbers) need the gain down low or you will hear noise. 4 or 5v is plenty. I've owned DSPS with 2v all the way up to 8v RMS on a helix DSP ultra and i can say that if you have a solid 4v or higher it is sufficient for the vast majority of applications.
How does one go about using a dsp for old school SQish amplifiers that use .2 - 2V inputs?
They stay where you save them at, even if the battery gets disconnected@@tctbs1327
Unicorn dsp,very nice and love the looks too
Can the zen a2b interface be ran to this marts DSP
I have the Expert PX2 Connect DSP It looks like it’s the same design circuit and software. It works fantastic.
The time alignment is amazing to sync up your front speakers with your subwoofer
same and was going to say the same thing. super happy with the purchase (closeout on woot form $59) too
I picked up two Expert 2 DSP's that you reviewed and they both have a faint background hum. This unit must be cleaner and is built more robust.
I have a Bronco w/non BO system, and I'm thinking of switching from the kicker key 200 dsp to this dsp ..plus upgrading the fronts to a 3 way setup. Do I need anything between this dsp and oem HU like the AC load generator or an Loc? I plan on getting a more powerful amp that has at least 100w x4 @4ohm to power fronts only,.. OR a 6 channel amp to power all speakers instead of the kicker.
Is this capable of making adjustments below 20hz? What is the max time delay between channels? Thanks
So, how does thing compare to the AudioControl DM608 voltage/signal wise?
this thing is awesome
Any clue what chip this uses?
That's cheap for that DSP with that hot of a signal because you are right. Most DSP is giving a low voltage signal, which is nothing wrong with . But once you have that listening experience of that pure clean signal at a higher voltage, you are like DAMN !!!
Wonder how the prv audio 2.8x holds up to this. It claims 5 to 6 volts for input and output
Cant find this in UK..any suggestions guys?👋🙏
I have one, the only issue so far is the Bluetooth signal is very week, I have to leave my phone in the car are it will disconnect. With my Expert Electronics DSP I can go about 30yds and still get a signal.
Would you switch from a Taramps dsp2.4 to this one? I wonder how clean the rca volts are on the Taramps dsp lol. My Taramps highs setup is running off of an Audio Control LC1i wired to a factory dodge 8.4in uconnect.
This is identical to my ds18 dsp4.8bt. love the thing need more info on how to set up the limiters. Help
Looks similar but they are not same I tried that one you mentioned as well and this is a better DSP.
I picked up two of the Expert DSP's that you reviewed a few months ago. I've been very happy with it for sure. Don't know how clean it is, don't remember you checking it. Kind of wish I got this one instead though.
I had good luck with the expert DSP this one has higher rca output voltage though but I also liked my experts.
@@HiFiVectorok in ready to purchase... which one this or expert
I've heard both are good but I have this one and it's been amazing @@PeterFeltersnatch852
Does the settings on the dsp overrun the filters on the amp or do i set the amp to full and use the DSP crossover?
As far as crossovers go yes set crossovers to full on amp and use DSP to control crossovers settings.
I'm curious what source unit he used (and it's pre-out voltage). Does this DSP ultimately convert everything to 4.5 volts no matter how strong or weak the input signal is? I already bought one, replacing my Expert Air8.
Was there a difference between the expert air 8 and this one. They look the same except this on is out of stock and expert is in stock.
Ok my question is how can you accurately set the time alignment. Since it's in milliseconds and not feet or meters seems like a pia. I'll be running tweet, mid, mid bass up front. Probably gonna split channel 7 for rear fill and use 8 for subs. My tweets and mids are going to be on axis mid bass in the doors.
Use measuring tape. You input the inches and it’ll do the conversion for you
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Good timing. Been looking for a DSP and definitely budget minded. I had been looking at the Dayton Audio DSP408 but it had mixed reviews and is twice as much as this one (after buying the bluetooth adapter that it does not include) in the review. Does this accept speaker level inputs? I hear that a dedicated LOC is best even with the ones that do but its still a nice feature. May have to order one today
Yea I would use a standalone low level converter they are cheap nowadays. Sadly the Dayton was one I tested and when I eventually tested it it was totally dirty on the signal and I could not get it clean…didn’t even get .5 volts out of it clean. Maybe I got a bad one who knows. But this is a good one for sure.
@@HiFiVectorcould you put Amazon affiliate link i see they sell it also. I wouldn't give big Jeff audio 1c of my money.
Holy cow 4.6v unclipped. I just ordered one to replace my Dayton with the bluetooth and remote. Thank you. Now just need a LOC. :)
@PeterFeltersnatch852 big Jeff has exclusivity on all online sales of Marts Digital products in the US
Isnt this very similar to the expert x8 air? The marts is out of stock wondering if the expert version will work similar
Yes but not same I get a higher output signal with this Matt’s. Both are good though. so they look similar, but they are not exactly the same.
Does this thing have a subsonic filter? If so how do you use it? Also is there another name for a subsonic filter because it's hard to find a crossover or DSP with one. Thanks in advance.
Subsonic filter Is just a low frequency cutoff which is same as going into the crossover and let’s say it’s for a subwoofer… so you want to hear from 20hz to 80hz you just set your crossover setting to start at 20hz and end at 80 hz. That will be in the crossover settings on the DSP. It will output all frequencies in between those two numbers. And for tweeters let say 5. Start and 20,000 end etc….
Just bought
can you use the bluetooth as the music source so i do not need a head unit?
Bought this DSP after watching this video. Yes you can use Bluetooth as the source although it doesn’t sound quite as good as when I play music from the headunit
do i have to connect via bluetooth every time i'm in my car or just when i want to change the settings?
Can do a video like this on the expert xair8
Where do you download the app? Where can I get a manual.pdf? Their website is in serious need of attentiion... don't even see a BTX8 listed as a product or support. I picked up two at that price point, but would like to see the DSP software
Go to the link that I have in the video description and it has links to download the apps right on the webpage.
Can you run this DSP without A? Headed unit just straight from the DSp or you have to have a head unit to run this DSP ? Trying to put one on my little Mini. Bike
No not unless you buy one of the little blue tooth rca receivers to get your signal into the DSP.
YES! 3.5 headphone to RCA male aux cord to dsp. I haven't use a head unit in 3 yrs. Use a iPad or a old phone with Bluetooth.
Can you see in the app the signal coming in so that you know what to adjust? Can you see for example if there’s bass rolloff or not?
You can’t “see” what’s coming in as far as wavelength or frequency or roll off. You can only see that for the adjustments you make in the DSP for the output.
does anyone know what the max charging voltage is on it?cant find it anywhere online.
Should I zero out all settings and time correction, crossovers on head unit when I use this and other DSP'S ?
Yes as a general rule you set your head unit flat and then use DSP for all the settings and shut head unit crossovers off or to full.
Nice. I'd have 10% max gain memory setting, for when people borrow my car.
I take my faceplate off the odd time I let someone borrow the car. Always take it off when car goes to a shop. No one is messing with me stuff. My friend had his subs blown by a shop fucking with his gear.
@derekgardin1512 good idea. Unfortunately for me, my stock head unit can't be swapped, so I use a LC2i Pro. I could pull the harness plug to the head unit though.
Hey HiFi I just ordered this DSP from big jeff audio it's actually my first EVER DSP i have a DD-1 and CC-1 but when I used them with my stock head unit and LOC i couldn't get them to work properly I was told my signal was not strong enough so I ordered this DSP, Head unit and a ton of other stuff im redoing my entire system to get ready for a down 4 sound HD3 single 15 enclosure and a new 15" Incriminator audio TYRANT rated for 5K RMS but I have a brand new Deafbonce AAK 6k and a AAK 180.4 for the doors anyways with all this new equipment i am wondering if you can recommend a decent oscilloscope for a decent price so I can try again with the SMD tools and cross check with the oscilloscope I am trying to get into competitive audio and I don't want anything to mess up from a clipped signal and I already almost blew two subs trying to tune by ear so I want multiple ways to check it just to make sure for next time
This is the one I mainly use and I have a few it’s very accurate and a ton of features for the price.
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@@HiFiVector thank you very very much for responding I need all the help I can get I've been trying to post videos asking for help but I'm still waiting on some stuff to come in but again thank you I'm really trying to get into competitive audio and it's taken me over a year so far and I have so much work to do and anything that makes it easier I'm all for it
Qre the dsp settings you're adjusting on your phone also stored in the dsp that way i can set it and forget it or do i need to have constant connection between my phone and dsp for that to work?
@tctbs1327 please elaborate. I don't understand what you are saying. I've Ben testing this device extensively. Once the settings are saved, there is no need to connect to it unless you want to make changes. My only gripe so far is that you can't label the channels or presets.
@@r.d.1056how do u save settings I can't seem to save each channel .
@marquetterichardson6529 from the home screen go to preservation, click on one of the numbered preset buttons, then click save. It will save the settings as you currently have them.
Are there instructions for this dsp? I installed one in my suv but it’s not saving my settings when I turn the car off. Also if I switch to a different memory setting, memory 1 no longer has my settings.
Me too if you figure it out can you please let me know been tring to get it to save for 3 days
I just ordered the Expert x8air 8 channel dsp . Which looks to be identical except for the outer shell. App is exact , just different colors. Anyway , I'm currently running a Kenwood head unit , soon to be a joying 12 " with insane dsp and Dolby theater 5.1 sound. Being as both have really good sub channel adjustments, do you think running sub channel from the head unit to the amp ( smart 3 bass ) would be fine ? And free up channels on the dsp. Anyone run their system this way.. I'm new to the dsp is why I ask. Thanks in advance
Yea I have both and I like both
But I get more clean output voltage on the marts than the expert. Yes I think a sub needs less adjustment than the mids and tweets so if you wanted to save a channel from the DSP and just go directly from the head unit to the sub amp, that would be fine.
@HiFiVector I looked for the Marts but no one had one and few that did was wayy to much. Hopefully the x8air is still pretty clean .
Question, so I set the eq setting s on the head unit to 0 in order to set them on the dsp?
@@HiFiVectorfollow to the question, how do i set my amplifier settings if the dsp has all of the eq and crossovers already set?
Does it produce any rf noise when it is installed in a 12V system? Bench testing is great and all but Im more interested in what it will do in its natural enviornment.
No noise I had this installed for. Few weeks to test prior to the video as I bought it last November so I had messed with it a lot beforehand.
Been using it for a few days now. It has full balanced input & output (unlike the dayton audio). So, as long as you use quality RCAs you won't have noise.
@@r.d.1056 Thanks. I have a DSR1 but I find that it is unreliable connecting via bluetooth. I was looking at the Dayton until I saw the reviews stating that noise was an issue. Will have to give this a closer look.
@almartinelli5054 the Dsr1 is a better unit than this one. Are you streaming directly to the Dsr1? If not, there's no reason to be constantly connecting to it. Once tuned it should be a set it & forget it type of thing.
@@r.d.1056 Havent had it long so Im still experimenting with it. I was having some issues with rf noise which i found to be the input plug was not plugged in all the way. I dont stream via bluetooth as I can do that from the head unit if I wish, I use the USB input for most of my music. It is a set it and forget it but at times I find, especially with mp3, that everything seems to be recorded at different levels so I find myself adjusting the input eq more often than not. I was just curious as to whether the settings were more or less advanced than the DSR1. Overall its been a good unit so far but always looking for something better.
I bought one with your link. I figure if it does everything shown without introducing noise its worth the $100. The specs dont say anything about balanced inputs, so I guess that will be the deciding factor.
Any idea why the android download don't work I got android so this is worthless if I can't use my galaxy fold 3 to tune the dsp
All I know is that some android devices you have to install the apk file. So you have to install the apk file on your phone it’s not automatically installed on some android. You can look up online how to install apk files. But the download should be here at lower part of the page.
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This is the link the QR code takes you to download the file: www.coresounds.net/AppFiles/Marts-Digital.apk
It is a direct download link so it should download the file as soon as the page loads.
In order to install the file, the customer will have to go to Apps > Settings > Security and enable "unknown sources" and save the settings.
Once that is done, they can find the file in their downloads folder on their phone and open the file to install it
You have to give permission for your device to download the APK.. search "how to download APK" and you'll be able to it's super simple
I just put in my Expert X8 DSP today, everything went awesome until I went to start the car, ALT WHINE UP THE YIN YANG! What gives? RCAs str8 to amp, and i have no noise. Ooooh its annoying as hell, the DSP seems pretty sweet minus the whine.
99% it's a bad piss poor ground
do NOT trust or rely on oem factory grounds....
@@Dauntless.steadfast.fortitude I got it narrowed down to my rear left RCA cable coming into the DSP,, just that one wire is whats giving me buzz/whine. Still no buzz when direct to amp. I must also add my RCA connections are coming from a crux GM/Bose system integration unit converting from the speaker outs of my new HU. I suppose ill have to crack back into my dash and see whats going on, maybe some cable mgmt or something like that.
@@Dauntless.steadfast.fortitude I think i made a rookie mistake when I mounted the amp against the trucks sheet metal, was slightly bigger than the stock amp. Im gonna correct that and insulate the mount points. Ive also picked up a capacitor for good measure, they've helped filter noise out before for me and I need to make the stock alternator last too, lol
Get some of those cone shaped rubber stoppers from home depot/Lowe's and use those to decouple your amp from sheet metal 👍 they are like 50 cents each @@AllboroLCD
Marts is on its way to being the next best thing from brazil...taramps gonna be hard to over thrown though.
I dont think taramps is at all worried about marts being successful they probably want them to.
I can't find the app android link is not working for me.
The app is called “ Airplus” see if you can find it in search. It will say Airplus utilities.
@@HiFiVector I can't find it either. I've tried everything. Big Jeff's link on the website doesn't work either.
@@jasonerosewrxgo back and read what big Jeff audio says he tells you what you need to do... All you need to do is give your device permission to download the APK it's very easy
You have to give your device permission to download the APK it's very simple
So I got the DSP and I cannot get the application to work it keeps freezing every time you go to the equalizer and or equalizer on each Channel it just shuts off. Android app does not work!
I found another app that works it’s the same app just different s color. Search for “GS X8 DSP” app.
@@HiFiVector I have that one also and it does the exact same thing. They are both version 1.2.7 at this point I have my gains and my crossover set but I cannot get to the eqs. So basically my system is not complete. I had the Expert audio line I purchaded off of your review also and that has been working fine for me. I really want to try this one but you can't adjust the eqs unless I get an iPhone apparently.
i got it working with an old android 12 phone. smh. I like it though everything louder more powerful.
@bigkevin20
Thanks for this info wanted this to work but I'm android.
I'll return since android app is buggy should have known. 😢
Is it better than the Dayton 4x8 for sound quality?
I have the dayton and this is looking like its replacement …hope it does sound as good
Yes. I just switched & it sounds better, it has balanced inputs so ZERO noise! The dayton has pitiful input sensitivity, this one can take a full 4+ volts & has much higher output voltage, so you need less gain on the amps. It has a master input gain & input EQ, the dayton does not. I like the time alignment settings better on this one.
It has a few quirks. You have to make sure to save any changes because it won't auto save like the dayton. Also, you can't label the channels or presets, or at least I haven't figured it out yet. And you have to connect to it manually each time. So far I like it better & I think it sounds better.
How do you save on this dsp? I thought it auto saved but I keep losing my settings.
You can sell tf out of a good product! 👍
He def can... But if the product is good it will sell itself!!
If I like a product I’m honest about it and I just really like this DSP that’s why I was kinda pumped on it. I bought it a while ago so I had time to use it and check it out in my truck for a while before the video.
@@HiFiVector I ty I just purchased one yesterday because of your video. Ty
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It costs 50 dollars, it's so bad product or it's low-powered,unspecified
Anybody here that can help me tune my dsp. Just ordered this one and gonna be installing soon. But this is my first time using a dsp so I’m kinda clueless.
It’s a lot of info but you can check out my in depth DSP settings video it may help a little.
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If u only have four inputs that kinda sucks. Most radios have six outputs. My pioneer and the flag ship atoto have 6&5
That doesn't even matter though as long as the input is a full signal you don't even need more than 2 inputs honestly
@@Mr.Thermistor7228 well when thr outputs of the radio have their own x overs and none of them are full range how do u get full range to the dsp? My deh80 has a high mid and low no full range
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I can't find the app
Go to the link I put on the video description. It’s the product page. It has the links for android and Apple on the page.
I found another app that works it’s the same app just different s color. Search for “GS X8 DSP” app.
@@davidcharles1601you have to give permission for your device to download the APK it's simple search how to download APK you'll find it
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Is it me, or is this just a re-badged Expert X8Air...hmmm. Same price point too! Very susssss!!!
$ 100.12 ??
Why did he just raise the price!?
I think it was on sale for almost 3 weeks prior to the video and the sale ended. I did this review on my own so it was just the timing I guess.
@@HiFiVector you posted the video and it was 112. 106 with your code I had it in my checkout 2 hours after your post went live. Did not have my cc on me. 8 hours later it's 129. no big deal just saying. I got it from him on ebay for 112. Unless that price just rose also. The only thing it looks like it is missing is remote out control like the Expert Line.
Yup. Price increase on his website and on Ebay as well. Guess I'll wait until another sale comes around 🤷
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HOLY SHIT BALLS. FINALLY a cheap dsp that’s 4 in 8 out. I’m so sick of these 2 in 8 outs. I’m going to give this a try. I’ve wanted to get the Dayton dsp for the longest time but I’ve just been put off by the years of reviews mentioning noise.
How is this better than expert electronic px2
Both good but this one has higher rca output voltage and 2 more rca outputs than the px2
@@HiFiVector is the clarity and floor noise 5he same as with expert electronic also can I do hi low input with this thanks
If someone can help me that witless be great. I'm getting this dsp and I need to know if I should run thus before my ds18 keq30 or the other way around?
@Mr.Thermistor7228 yeah, but if I'm running an eq should it be dsp,eq,amp or eq,dsp,amp? I'm thinking it's dsp then my eq then to the amp.
This is an eQ so I would not run another eQ in your system. This will do all and more than a regular eQ.
No laptop required is the cat's pajamas.
Time alignment
Equalizer (for each channel)
Parametric equalizer
Crossover/filter (independent for each channel)
Crossover slope selector (12, 18, 24dB/octave
Phase inverter
Input gain level control
Output gain level control
Looks like it checks all my boxes
One Equalizer for all channels. From what I saw in the video.
@@c130aviatorits hella useless if so, because a standart dsp head unit does all of those including global parametriv eq
@@c130aviator each output has its own EQ.
Cats pajamas?? Lmao I love it lol
@@c130aviatorI work c130j and h models too 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿