You are the most on-target, literate, listenable person I've come across on the web doing these informational videos. And you do the best video demonstrations.
If anyone is wondering...I made one of these penny stoves with 16 holes. Used a Sterno box and a soup can to get the penny stove about 3/4" from the grill. Just like he shows. Effortlessly cooked a big piece of fish and 10 jumbo shrimp in a stainless 8" pan. Used HEET from the yellow bottle. My penny stove consistently burns 15 to 18 minutes using approximately 1oz of fluid.
Ok, this video is awesome. I came here from your soda can burner video. I thought this video would be very simple and only tackle a single idea. You start out with an empty table and it ends with a full display of easy to make burners and stoves. You explain everything simply, practically and throroughly. This was an incredibly informative video and you sir are under appreciated. I am going to my local store to try this stuff out right now
Add 4 to 6 fine threaded drywall screws to the highest part of the lip and that will be a nice raised surface to hold up a tiny pot while allowing air flow around the burner.
For my penny burner I made (which was because I watched your video) I cut a coffee can down a bit higher than the burner and put the burner in it. The coffee can acted as the stand so the burner did its job. I call it a poor mans Trangia. Thanks mate for interesting videos. Oh and being in the UK I use methylated spirits as used on Trangias.
That little coat hanger great grate pot holder you made might be a little more effective if you took some aluminum foil and wrapped each of the three sides with it...Thus giving you a wind shield...This will save fuel....which if in a survival setting would be *PRECIOUS* .....The will also concentrate the heat upwards....just my two humble pennies...God Bless...Much Love.... I found you through the Az tea can burner vid....LOVE IT SIR....excellent..!!!
Lots of great info in this video! This would have saved me a lot of trial and error had I been able to view it a long time ago. I didn't realize that 82 was the magic penny date. I was amazed the first time I melted one. Darn Good informative video Sir.
I know I'm late to the party but it's cool. So those worried about fiberglass please don't be, it's literally Fiber glass. Or glass fibers, it's totally inert. Oh and the reason when you come in contact with it on your skin when installing it in walls or the ceiling etc. is because those tiny fibers are actually penetrating your skin. It's glass. Dude great vids!
Awesome info, while I knew pennies pre 82 were mostly copper I never thought about how the Zinc ones would melt under that kind of heat on the burner itself.
Hey, I originally came to your channel from that video you mentioned! Not being from the USA I was a bit unsure about the fuels everyone uses over there. After a little looking around I found that Denatured alcohol, is also called methylated spirit (in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom). Which is everywhere, any super market or corner shop. So if any international travelers are looking to fire up their stoves/burners in NZ or Oz, just look for methylated spirits, its purple, you can't miss it.
Excellent information... thank you for sharing! I hope you like my content. I have 1052 videos! If you haven't seen my 2018 overnighters playlist it's a good one!
Dying the alcohol purple, that is not safe to drink, is an excellent idea. I have wished manufacturers in the USA to do something similar to distinguish poisonous alcohols from those intended for consumption or medical use, THanks for sharing this information, as I was only aware of it being done for "Meths" (if I spelled it correct) in the UK.
Great video, thanks for all the info. The knock outs or anything galvanize I would not use. They produce posiones gases when hot enough. When you weld galvanize coated material you get a white stuff that is not good at all. Just wanted to mention for saftey. Your video was full of good info.
For anyone wondering you can usually tell if something is galvanized because it has an iridescent look like similar to gasoline. You can't always tell though, especially for smaller material like chicken wire.
I was actually looking for the right burner/stove for car camping. To also use a frying pan and cook some food. I'm thinking about using your penny stove design which seams to make it so I can adjust the height to get more of a medium heat instead of high/blasting. So I'd need more of a wider support base and the ability to go up or down with the pan. I think the Sterno thing could work well. The fancy feast thing looks great but I wonder if it wouldn't work the same way if the pan was lifted high enough to no longer cap the large opening. I've seen some people mention the penny stove can explode, but I imagine they must have not put enough ports and placed the penny down too quickly(?). You seam to put the penny down quickly and it works fine so it must be the ports and having a little flame around the base of the burner at first to warm it up.
I had a penny stove (different design with open center) blow up in my face and burn/singe a table at a church hostel in MA. The reason was contaminant or water in the bottle we used to store our fuel while backpacking. I didn't get burned but my eyebrows were singed a little bit. The Catholic church was most gracious. Later that stove worked great for the rest of the hike.
The fancy feast or Vienna sausage stove 👌😆 we don't get those in the UK but hey I get the point! Great coat hanger pot stand tip. I guess you refill the fuel through the same holes in the centre?
Thank you ! you answered many questions I had ! I Love tinkering with tin can stoves and I use that term to describe the aluminum ones too, lol. but the best I have come up with so far is the alcohol wick stove... I was playing around in the shop and found 2 soup cans that fit inside each other nicely ,they were the same height so I cut the outside one down 1.5" put in 4 holes in the inside can added a cotton T shirt rag as the wick and left it to over hang about 1/2" then took a small screw driver and pushed the overhanging wick down into the gap between the cans ,but just to the top edge.... this is by far the easiest stove to light and when I set a bigger can of water on the inner can it is very stable and it puts outs the inner fire out as well as alot of the fuel was being used up there.... it boiled a can of water in less than 5 minutes but I found that the 91% alcohol is rather dirty.... ( of course it could be my not so clean greasy rags I used as the WICK too LOL.... However the flame is not as pretty as with the Penny can stove but it is so much easier to light and get going especially outdoors ! so I will continue to make stoves like this as I want one that is easy to light puts out a Pretty flame and runs on easy to get Alcohol. I will get me a bunch of denatured Alcohol for these experiments ! thank you very much and I WILL make a few of those stands ! that's very ingenious of you !
Another reason for why you wouldn't want to use coins made with zinc is because of the vapors being inhaled . It's the same reason you don't want to use anything that's been galvanized like making a galvanized garbage can into a BBQ or a stove to heat up an enclosed space . The zinc fumes can be deadly . For me fuel choice is about keeping the costs lower . Denatured alcohol and Heat are definitely more expensive than regular isopropyl alcohol and readily available at most places in many cases whereas Heet or denatured alcohol may not be and especially right now with the shipping issues going on everywhere .
HEET, if anyone is wondering, is mostly methanol and isopropanol. Denatured alcohol is mostly ethanol with some methanol. Given a choice I'd probably use the alcohol, since I don't know what other additives might be in HEET that I wouldn't want to breath in after it's burned. As he said it's probably fine so long as you do it in a well ventilated area, but in my case I'd rather be safe than sorry.
I stumbled across the penny can stove just by accident wasn't even looking for it. in truth I've never ever heard of it before. But watched it anyway and was completely aw struck by the item you made and read the comments and thought I'd better watch this video also. So I'm actually on my way to Walmart to purchase the needed items to in better words "attempt"to make one of these items. Although my daughter said she's going with me to purchase a fire extinguisher also. She heard how I burnt up my mom's kitchen boiling water when I was 16. Well, apparently I'm not able to get her out of the car so to Walmart we go.
Thank you so much for clarifying, made mine the night I watched your other video. Purchased some methylated spirit the next day. Haven't tested it yet as needed some roof inclination, but will now use cotton wool or steel wool. Thank you again. 👍
Thank you so much for sharing this useful information. This will make my trips so much lighter in travel. I subscribe and am looking forward to more videos. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
This is the perfect solution to supplement my twig burner stove! I was wondering what I would use if there was a fire ban someplace I will be hiking. Just need to figure out a way to keep fuel contained until I dial in burning off whatever I put in. Mostly will be needed to boil water. I’m thinking the crowler cans I have from the local brewery will be a good size to use! Wider than Arizona tea even! Thanks for the informative videos.
I have cooked on my nut can/soup can alcohol stove with very good results, I can put my pot directly on the top and also have put it in my twig stove using it as a wind screen , that helped the stove work better on windy days
Great video; the height definitely matters as the flame's hottest point is at its peek height. Also, the insulation works so well because there's less surface tension, which creates more opportunity for evaporation to happen; the more evaporation, the more fuel is available to be burned.
Just an FYI - You are correct regarding the pennies. Half way through 1982, they stopped making them of mostly copper, and went to the zinc version. As far as quarters and dimes, 1964 and before were mostly silver, 90% I think. After 1964, the make them out of zinc. Nickels are still made of primarily nickel. (Trivia fact, during WW 2, nickel was needed for the war effort, so 1942 - 1945 nickels were made with 35 % silver, to save nickel. If you ever see one, it is obvious, as they tarnish like pre 1965 quarters and dimes.) Check out the website - coinflation - will show the differences in our coinage. I encourage my young relatives to go through their pennies, and save the pre 1982 ones. In 20 years they will be worth much, much more than 1 cent, due to the copper content. BTW - great vid.
CM, they also made pennies during WWII from all zinc or at least no copper. My mom had some and called them zinc pennies. The copper was needed for the war effort. On a side note, she said they saved the foil from gum wrappers for the war effort too!
This was a great series of videos on making a simple alcohol stove/burner. I learned a lot and will be using this on future camping videos. I'll be sure to give you credit! Greetings from and old Marine in Satellite Beach, Florida.
@@jiujitsu2000 I'll let you know as soon as it's used in a video. I'm new to making UA-cam videos and just put my first up less than 2 weeks ago. Very soon I will do a canoe camping video and it will be featured in that one with credit to JIUJITSU2000. Thanks.
12:00 Thanks for that answer. I suspected the heat may be an issue with the copper in the pennies, but was wondering why it was important for, basically, a cap.
That wire stand is good on rough ground to level the stove , but why waste all that cut up can material? Add it to the stand sides to make a wind shield around the stove. A tin or jar with a lid is handy too, it stores the stove when it still has fuel in it, which can be poured back in from the tin if any spills.
Thank you for making your video there, right now I'm wondering what the difference is between the red heat and the yellow Heat cuz I used the red one and it made a really suity Flame no blue at all once again thank you!!!
I think if you want it to be a stove just cut a coffee can both top and bottom, and cut it down to about an inch taller than the burner. It’ll support a bigger pan, and raise it up above the burner an inch. Just put the burner in the middle of the coffee can and you’re ready to go.
Thank you so much for the very kind words and support you give my channel! These alcohol stoves are amazing and very effective! The glitch in the video is starting to happen a little more regularly I think my camera is getting tired. This is one of the reasons I'm running a campaign for a GoPro Hero 7 black. My goal is 400 bucks. People have been very generous and I'm currently at 338!! There's a link in the description box if anyone's interested. I'm getting close! I hope you have a beautiful day!!
I think Heet is the best because it's made of methyl alcohol. Though the percentage is not clear. CH3OH - methanol. Boils at +65 °C. It requires 6,4 kg of air to burn 1 kg of its mass. *In case of 95%. Ethanol for example boils at +79 °C. It requires 8,9 kg of air to burn 1 kg of its mass. Gasoline - can have different boiling point depending on its consist, but it requires 14,9 kg of air to burn 1 kg of its mass. Thus gasoline is unstable in these stoves/burners. That's why you get yellow flame and soot. Soot is basically wasted fuel, unburnt fuel. Unburn because of lack of air.
@@mshock9637 Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Nobody ever bothered to tell me that, I just took it for granted NOT to do that, But that was Hilarious, Thanks Bro !
@@prospectingron2.013 Its one if those things you never think about until you hear it out loud one day then youre like "damn, that shit just changed my life." Changed mine anyway.
Can you reuse the same can? Or make a new one each time? Does the material inside burn up or can it be refilled with liquid? If yes, how many times? What’s the best way to separate the cans?
Going down this rabbit hole today for some reason. FYI, I checked. Modern pennies are mostly zinc and melt at a pretty low temp (as demonstrated in the video). Modern nickels are 25% nickel and 75% copper. Both metals have much higher mleting points than zinc. I am not a credentialed chemist or metallurgist, but I am assuming that a 25/75 alloy of nickel and copper would be essentially impossible to melt. Modern quarters are made of a copper core with a nickel/copper alloy layer ou the outside, so it should also be un-meltable with an alcohol stove. Nickels weigh 5 grams and quarters weigh just over 5 grams. A penny weighs 2.5 grams. So if you're concerned about pressure lifting your coin, a nickel or a quarter should be better than a penny. Bottom line - I'd just go for a nickel or a quarter. Not only do they cover a larger refueling hole than a penny, but you don't have to go hunting around for a specific year that is getting more and more rare as time goes on.
FYI...I looked up the MSDS sheet on that type of yellow bottle of HEET and its primary ingredient is METHANOL. There's are two other proprietary ingredients; each less than .0001%.
If you're worried that that insulation is somehow coming through those holes and through whatever pan you're cooking in or blowing over the pan and into your food in quantities enough to do any harm to you I suggest you look up the air quality where you live. At that point you might as well start living by carrying around a SCUBA tank hooked to your back at all times so you're breathing nothing besides purified air.
I watched your tea can burner video and came to watch this one. It’s an awesome idea. However, I’m wondering how you store it in your backpack so that it doesn’t drip or create mess. Would the Vienna and tomato paste can be easier to store w less mess since it doesn’t have insulation that can potentially have more liquid absorbed in it? Thx for your help.
I just had to burn up all the fuel before I packed it up. Also I stored it inside my cookpot cushioned by my small pot holder. This worked well except on the plane in my luggage since we flew to VA then took a bus to Damascus. I think that caused my initial disaster bc the 2 soda cans compressed further so that the inside can blocked the ports on the rim of the outer can. That's part of why I had to make more stoves. I bounced some stoves ahead but too far ahead. I couldn't get it to work anyway. I think I have to make my stoves smaller or burn more fuel. Fyi 2 Tbs of fuel, ie 2oz or 60 mL burns for about 10 min which is enough time to boil a liter of water according to his test time. I'm determined to get this working. He makes it look easy!!
I think this actually answers most of my questions. I emailed last summer about difficulties at 9000 ft elevation. Thank you for getting back with me. My son and I tried using the stove on the AT and it was a total bust. We tried modifying. I went back to Damascus and stayed at the Broken Fiddle for a couple days and made a couple duplicates but they wouldn't work at 1500 - 3000 ft elevation. This year I've placed the center holes closer together which helps but regardless of what i do, i end up using the butane torch to light the freaking thing. And I have to be careful bc it gets so hot the penny started melting the aluminum can. Ay ay ay! Canto y no llores! I'm a science teacher fcol. This shouldn't be so hard! I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Do I need to let it sit longer for the gas to evaporate before I light it? Maybe I have to fill the can full of alcohol? This doesn't work well backpacking bc I'd have to buy fuel every 3 days, carry extra bottles. Maybe I'll switch to the Vienna sausage can. That may be less frustrating, faster and more conservative on fuel for backpacking. Why won't this work though? What am i doing wrong? I follow your directions to a T. I've probably made a 12-18 stoves with variations trying to get it to work. I've eliminated altitude as a variable, temp, wind... Jiminy Crickets Batman!
Eureka! I got it to work. I have to pour heet all the way under, on top and around the can to get it hot enough to burn. That's after letting it sit for about 3-5 min to let the gas fumes build inside the can. It wouldn't light until I let it set a cpl min then poured extra fuel around the base of the can and on top. I actually lit it from the base of the can rather than the top. I used an itty bitty lighter since my butane torch ran out of fuel. Thanks! A little perseverance paid off v
Another reason to no use a Zinc penny is that on top of the low melting point Zinc produces toxic fumes when burned. One of the things I learned when learning coppersmithing. If you're not sure if it's zinc or copper do not put heat to it without a respirator on, and I mean a real one not a dust mask. If you know the melting point then its easy to figure out what it is by doing a burn test. Also don't make a trivet to set your pot on out of galvanized steel, it is also toxic.
Love it when content creator cares enough to answer FAQ and follow up with a video !! Keep up.
agree completely. dude's great
Thank you. I know these videos are older, but I'm trying to learn, so they are very helpful. 💓
Glad you like them! Thank you
You are the most on-target, literate, listenable person I've come across on the web doing these informational videos. And you do the best video demonstrations.
Could you use this burner when you're a stranded inside your car in a winter storm. Or would you need a different burner?
If anyone is wondering...I made one of these penny stoves with 16 holes. Used a Sterno box and a soup can to get the penny stove about 3/4" from the grill. Just like he shows. Effortlessly cooked a big piece of fish and 10 jumbo shrimp in a stainless 8" pan.
Used HEET from the yellow bottle. My penny stove consistently burns 15 to 18 minutes using approximately 1oz of fluid.
Ok, this video is awesome. I came here from your soda can burner video. I thought this video would be very simple and only tackle a single idea. You start out with an empty table and it ends with a full display of easy to make burners and stoves. You explain everything simply, practically and throroughly. This was an incredibly informative video and you sir are under appreciated. I am going to my local store to try this stuff out right now
So i get lured in with the penny stove and then you tell me the fancy feast stove is better 😂
2 Gunz we have been bamboozled
Now that was thoughtful to come back and answer the exact questions I had after watching the 1st penny can stove!
Add 4 to 6 fine threaded drywall screws to the highest part of the lip and that will be a nice raised surface to hold up a tiny pot while allowing air flow around the burner.
Man, you really do a great job explaining these cool stoves and burners. Thanks.
21:50 The ever present all powerful very useful block of wood.Where would we be without it?
For my penny burner I made (which was because I watched your video) I cut a coffee can down a bit higher than the burner and put the burner in it. The coffee can acted as the stand so the burner did its job. I call it a poor mans Trangia. Thanks mate for interesting videos. Oh and being in the UK I use methylated spirits as used on Trangias.
Thank you for doing the leg work on making the burners more effective for us. This info could very well be a life saver!
That little coat hanger great grate pot holder you made might be a little more effective if you took some aluminum foil and wrapped each of the three sides with it...Thus giving you a wind shield...This will save fuel....which if in a survival setting would be *PRECIOUS* .....The will also concentrate the heat upwards....just my two humble pennies...God Bless...Much Love....
I found you through the Az tea can burner vid....LOVE IT SIR....excellent..!!!
"looks cooler with 16 holes" *writes down in notes*
Women use a make up remover cotton beauty pad that is already round and a stack of them would fit perfect. And they are cheap.
Surely a panty liner work best... One those for monthlys.
Yes! Great idea! I have a boatload of those makeup cotton rounds!!
Heet works amazing! I tried the 91 isopropo and didn't like the soot. With heet it burns clean and easily. Thank you for this invaluable information!
Lots of great info in this video! This would have saved me a lot of trial and error had I been able to view it a long time ago. I didn't realize that 82 was the magic penny date. I was amazed the first time I melted one. Darn Good informative video Sir.
Excellent thoughts my friend, thank you for sharing them! Have a great day!!
Very thorough explanations! TYSM for sharing :)
I know I'm late to the party but it's cool. So those worried about fiberglass please don't be, it's literally Fiber glass. Or glass fibers, it's totally inert. Oh and the reason when you come in contact with it on your skin when installing it in walls or the ceiling etc. is because those tiny fibers are actually penetrating your skin. It's glass. Dude great vids!
Thanks. Excellent guide. I've made a few now. The new quarters make a nice valve, and they turn blue which is cool.
So glad you had this linked in first vid. Learned so much more.
Thanks for this! Great info!! And so easily explained🤘
@@oliferous Thank you so much!
Awesome info, while I knew pennies pre 82 were mostly copper I never thought about how the Zinc ones would melt under that kind of heat on the burner itself.
Thank you! It surprised me the first time I saw it... love your channel by the way! I don't usually comment, but I'm generally watching! Good day!!
Thank you, you answered any questions I had...
I appreciate you doing this video...
Hey, I originally came to your channel from that video you mentioned!
Not being from the USA I was a bit unsure about the fuels everyone uses over there. After a little looking around I found that Denatured alcohol, is also called methylated spirit (in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom). Which is everywhere, any super market or corner shop. So if any international travelers are looking to fire up their stoves/burners in NZ or Oz, just look for methylated spirits, its purple, you can't miss it.
Excellent information... thank you for sharing! I hope you like my content. I have 1052 videos! If you haven't seen my 2018 overnighters playlist it's a good one!
Mostly in a purply blue bottle is kero don't get that, I've only ever bought metho in a clear bottle and the liquid is clear too.
Thanks Nick, was wondering what the fuel equivalent was her in NZ. 👍
Dying the alcohol purple, that is not safe to drink, is an excellent idea. I have wished manufacturers in the USA to do something similar to distinguish poisonous alcohols from those intended for consumption or medical use, THanks for sharing this information, as I was only aware of it being done for "Meths" (if I spelled it correct) in the UK.
Great video, thanks for all the info. The knock outs or anything galvanize I would not use. They produce posiones gases when hot enough. When you weld galvanize coated material you get a white stuff that is not good at all. Just wanted to mention for saftey. Your video was full of good info.
For anyone wondering you can usually tell if something is galvanized because it has an iridescent look like similar to gasoline. You can't always tell though, especially for smaller material like chicken wire.
I;d say, to be safe, cut a circle out of another can and use that, in case you don't have an older penny.
I was actually looking for the right burner/stove for car camping. To also use a frying pan and cook some food. I'm thinking about using your penny stove design which seams to make it so I can adjust the height to get more of a medium heat instead of high/blasting. So I'd need more of a wider support base and the ability to go up or down with the pan. I think the Sterno thing could work well. The fancy feast thing looks great but I wonder if it wouldn't work the same way if the pan was lifted high enough to no longer cap the large opening. I've seen some people mention the penny stove can explode, but I imagine they must have not put enough ports and placed the penny down too quickly(?). You seam to put the penny down quickly and it works fine so it must be the ports and having a little flame around the base of the burner at first to warm it up.
I had a penny stove (different design with open center) blow up in my face and burn/singe a table at a church hostel in MA. The reason was contaminant or water in the bottle we used to store our fuel while backpacking. I didn't get burned but my eyebrows were singed a little bit. The Catholic church was most gracious. Later that stove worked great for the rest of the hike.
Btw, best "memory maker" and thought provoking backyard project with grand children !! ...a little tent on a nice summer night.
My next bike tour thanks you! I'll be attempting a simple stove with some modifications to your designs. Cheers from Michigan.
Watching from Lansing. UA-cam recommendations are a hell of a thing haha
The fancy feast or Vienna sausage stove 👌😆 we don't get those in the UK but hey I get the point! Great coat hanger pot stand tip. I guess you refill the fuel through the same holes in the centre?
Thank you ! you answered many questions I had ! I Love tinkering with tin can stoves
and I use that term to describe the aluminum ones too, lol.
but the best I have come up with so far is the alcohol wick stove... I was playing around in the shop and found 2 soup cans that fit inside each other nicely ,they were the same height so I cut the outside one down 1.5" put in 4 holes in the inside can added a cotton T shirt rag as the wick and left it to over hang about 1/2" then took a small screw driver and pushed the overhanging wick down into the gap between the cans ,but just to the top edge....
this is by far the easiest stove to light and when I set a bigger can of water on the inner can it is very stable and it puts outs the inner fire out as well as alot of the fuel was being used up there.... it boiled a can of water in less than 5 minutes but I found that the 91% alcohol is rather dirty.... ( of course it could be my not so clean greasy rags I used as the WICK too LOL....
However the flame is not as pretty as with the Penny can stove but it is so much easier to light and get going especially outdoors ! so I will continue to make stoves like this as I want one that is easy to light puts out a Pretty flame and runs on easy to get Alcohol.
I will get me a bunch of denatured Alcohol for these experiments ! thank you very much
and I WILL make a few of those stands ! that's very ingenious of you !
thank you buddy this is great, and i like your vienna stoves too!
thank you!!
Another reason for why you wouldn't want to use coins made with zinc is because of the vapors being inhaled . It's the same reason you don't want to use anything that's been galvanized like making a galvanized garbage can into a BBQ or a stove to heat up an enclosed space . The zinc fumes can be deadly .
For me fuel choice is about keeping the costs lower . Denatured alcohol and Heat are definitely more expensive than regular isopropyl alcohol and readily available at most places in many cases whereas Heet or denatured alcohol may not be and especially right now with the shipping issues going on everywhere .
I just happen to have that Sterno rack so I was elated to hear use it! Made my day. 👌
HEET, if anyone is wondering, is mostly methanol and isopropanol. Denatured alcohol is mostly ethanol with some methanol. Given a choice I'd probably use the alcohol, since I don't know what other additives might be in HEET that I wouldn't want to breath in after it's burned. As he said it's probably fine so long as you do it in a well ventilated area, but in my case I'd rather be safe than sorry.
U can fill this stove with moonshine ;)
Methanol is very toxic, inhaled. Avoid skin contact as well. Also known as wood alcohol, causes blindness if consumed
Somebody said it was nice of you to do this video..and I sure want to second that. Very well done and very interesting!
Nice of you to do this. Thanks for all those asking questions. Lol.
I stumbled across the penny can stove just by accident wasn't even looking for it. in truth I've never ever heard of it before. But watched it anyway and was completely aw struck by the item you made and read the comments and thought I'd better watch this video also. So I'm actually on my way to Walmart to purchase the needed items to in better words "attempt"to make one of these items. Although my daughter said she's going with me to purchase a fire extinguisher also. She heard how I burnt up my mom's kitchen boiling water when I was 16. Well, apparently I'm not able to get her out of the car so to Walmart we go.
Thank you so much for clarifying, made mine the night I watched your other video.
Purchased some methylated spirit the next day. Haven't tested it yet as needed some roof inclination, but will now use cotton wool or steel wool.
Thank you again. 👍
how did you get on with Meths? that is the fuel of choice I would use.
Thank you so much for sharing this useful information. This will make my trips so much lighter in travel. I subscribe and am looking forward to more videos. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
I LOVE your Vids, Sir!
Very informative and practical!
(AND...You answered ALL the Qs I had, so thanks for taking the extra time out to do a "Q Vid"!)
You know what, I'm a guy who watch DIY video, and do it. And today, I already ordered Denatured Alcohol 99%.
This is the perfect solution to supplement my twig burner stove! I was wondering what I would use if there was a fire ban someplace I will be hiking. Just need to figure out a way to keep fuel contained until I dial in burning off whatever I put in. Mostly will be needed to boil water. I’m thinking the crowler cans I have from the local brewery will be a good size to use! Wider than Arizona tea even! Thanks for the informative videos.
love that you made a follow-up, usually unheard of :-)
Thanks bubby, this video is extremely helpful
Thanks a lot. Your explanation and demonstration was really good..
I have cooked on my nut can/soup can alcohol stove with very good results, I can put my pot directly on the top and also have put it in my twig stove using it as a wind screen , that helped the stove work better on windy days
Excellent sista! I got some new videos coming there going to be a lot of fun! I hope all is well for you!!
Great video; the height definitely matters as the flame's hottest point is at its peek height. Also, the insulation works so well because there's less surface tension, which creates more opportunity for evaporation to happen; the more evaporation, the more fuel is available to be burned.
Thank you, Very well explained. So good that you spoke about the many variants:)
Thanks so much for your tried and true methods!
Just an FYI - You are correct regarding the pennies. Half way through 1982, they stopped making them of mostly copper, and went to the zinc version. As far as quarters and dimes, 1964 and before were mostly silver, 90% I think. After 1964, the make them out of zinc. Nickels are still made of primarily nickel. (Trivia fact, during WW 2, nickel was needed for the war effort, so 1942 - 1945 nickels were made with 35 % silver, to save nickel. If you ever see one, it is obvious, as they tarnish like pre 1965 quarters and dimes.) Check out the website - coinflation - will show the differences in our coinage. I encourage my young relatives to go through their pennies, and save the pre 1982 ones. In 20 years they will be worth much, much more than 1 cent, due to the copper content.
BTW - great vid.
CM, they also made pennies during WWII from all zinc or at least no copper. My mom had some and called them zinc pennies. The copper was needed for the war effort. On a side note, she said they saved the foil from gum wrappers for the war effort too!
Awesome! You answered all of my questions from the other video! Thank you!
Thanks a lot good information to know such things when you're going camping around fishing one need a cup of coffee whatever .great day. Stay safe
Really cool video, very informative. Defiantly something to keep in mind because it's easy and practical to make if you are lacking in cooking gear.
Hey awesome thanks I live in 🇨🇦 so it's already fall and cold out backpacking one or more times and will be trying your little heater
I use grain alcohol from the liquor store. Maybe more expensive, but works great. And good for mixing!
Your really teaching me,I enjoy learning thanks,
This was a great series of videos on making a simple alcohol stove/burner. I learned a lot and will be using this on future camping videos. I'll be sure to give you credit! Greetings from and old Marine in Satellite Beach, Florida.
Thank you for that please let me know when you release the video so I can check it out!!
@@jiujitsu2000 I'll let you know as soon as it's used in a video. I'm new to making UA-cam videos and just put my first up less than 2 weeks ago. Very soon I will do a canoe camping video and it will be featured in that one with credit to JIUJITSU2000. Thanks.
Excellent! I can't wait to check it out. Thanks!
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Very good info! Thank you!
I just watched the Arizona tea video, followed the comment section here. Added both vids to my important list
As well as subscribed
You covered alot, great info! Thank You
This Chanel is going to be huge
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12:00 Thanks for that answer. I suspected the heat may be an issue with the copper in the pennies, but was wondering why it was important for, basically, a cap.
Thank you for sharing, and I am going to make a few of them.
THANKS for the explanation that I did not see your link at first.
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That wire stand is good on rough ground to level the stove , but why waste all that cut up can material? Add it to the stand sides to make a wind shield around the stove. A tin or jar with a lid is handy too, it stores the stove when it still has fuel in it, which can be poured back in from the tin if any spills.
About the penny... zinc burning is poisonous or very hazardous.
Burn time starts at like 9:00
This man could survive anywhere.
Pot stand was what I was looking for, thanks!
Suggest adding following the terminologies: fuel wick/baffle & non-ribbed coin pressure regulator. Great video/s...thanks for the content/motivation.
Watched your live stream , good one 👍, you are extremely creative. 🍃🌹
Thank you so much!
Question: does the wick in the AZ penny can need to be replaced? OR do you just continue to add fuel after 1 hour or so of use?
I don't think it has to be replaced, it's not burning.
For a sniffer I like to use a larger can like a soup can and just put it down over it for a minute but simply blowing on it usually works
Thank you for making your video there, right now I'm wondering what the difference is between the red heat and the yellow Heat cuz I used the red one and it made a really suity Flame no blue at all once again thank you!!!
ITS THE REASON WHY I LIKE WATCHING YOUR VIDEO THE STOVE IS THE BEST
Thank you!
I think if you want it to be a stove just cut a coffee can both top and bottom, and cut it down to about an inch taller than the burner. It’ll support a bigger pan, and raise it up above the burner an inch. Just put the burner in the middle of the coffee can and you’re ready to go.
Would this deprive the burner of oxygen and cause it to go out?
Thanks for this explanation video. 👍
That burner can was hella neat and I like heat.
Another great video as always. Hope the move is going smoothly.BTW not sure if you knew but at the 2:58 mark the video kinda flips out for a second.
Thank you so much for the very kind words and support you give my channel! These alcohol stoves are amazing and very effective! The glitch in the video is starting to happen a little more regularly I think my camera is getting tired. This is one of the reasons I'm running a campaign for a GoPro Hero 7 black. My goal is 400 bucks. People have been very generous and I'm currently at 338!! There's a link in the description box if anyone's interested. I'm getting close! I hope you have a beautiful day!!
I think you can use hand sanitizer for fuel and there is tons of it for really cheap. steel wool seems like a great option.
I think Heet is the best because it's made of methyl alcohol. Though the percentage is not clear.
CH3OH - methanol. Boils at +65 °C. It requires 6,4 kg of air to burn 1 kg of its mass.
*In case of 95%.
Ethanol for example boils at +79 °C. It requires 8,9 kg of air to burn 1 kg of its mass.
Gasoline - can have different boiling point depending on its consist, but it requires 14,9 kg of air to burn 1 kg of its mass.
Thus gasoline is unstable in these stoves/burners. That's why you get yellow flame and soot. Soot is basically wasted fuel, unburnt fuel. Unburn because of lack of air.
Good information thank you
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The best tip ive ever gotten was "dont wipe your ass with the shower curtain". Lol. Im just goofin bud. That is a great tip tho.
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Its one if those things you never think about until you hear it out loud one day then youre like "damn, that shit just changed my life." Changed mine anyway.
Can you reuse the same can? Or make a new one each time? Does the material inside burn up or can it be refilled with liquid? If yes, how many times? What’s the best way to separate the cans?
You can refill the scan over and over. I have some that are 10 years old and still going string.
Going down this rabbit hole today for some reason.
FYI, I checked.
Modern pennies are mostly zinc and melt at a pretty low temp (as demonstrated in the video).
Modern nickels are 25% nickel and 75% copper. Both metals have much higher mleting points than zinc. I am not a credentialed chemist or metallurgist, but I am assuming that a 25/75 alloy of nickel and copper would be essentially impossible to melt.
Modern quarters are made of a copper core with a nickel/copper alloy layer ou the outside, so it should also be un-meltable with an alcohol stove.
Nickels weigh 5 grams and quarters weigh just over 5 grams. A penny weighs 2.5 grams. So if you're concerned about pressure lifting your coin, a nickel or a quarter should be better than a penny.
Bottom line - I'd just go for a nickel or a quarter. Not only do they cover a larger refueling hole than a penny, but you don't have to go hunting around for a specific year that is getting more and more rare as time goes on.
Quality information thanks
Skip to 9:10 for burn time (30-60min)
Thank you
ive got some leftover 99% irubbing alcohol, seems to burn very clean
FYI...I looked up the MSDS sheet on that type of yellow bottle of HEET and its primary
ingredient is METHANOL. There's are two other proprietary ingredients;
each less than .0001%.
Those electric box knockouts we called them “slugs”.
Thank you
Excellent! Thank You.
If you're worried that that insulation is somehow coming through those holes and through whatever pan you're cooking in or blowing over the pan and into your food in quantities enough to do any harm to you I suggest you look up the air quality where you live. At that point you might as well start living by carrying around a SCUBA tank hooked to your back at all times so you're breathing nothing besides purified air.
burning normal gas or other dirty fuel wouldn't be very good. but I agree any of the cleaner fuels aren't anything to worry about.
I watched your tea can burner video and came to watch this one. It’s an awesome idea. However, I’m wondering how you store it in your backpack so that it doesn’t drip or create mess. Would the Vienna and tomato paste can be easier to store w less mess since it doesn’t have insulation that can potentially have more liquid absorbed in it? Thx for your help.
I just had to burn up all the fuel before I packed it up. Also I stored it inside my cookpot cushioned by my small pot holder. This worked well except on the plane in my luggage since we flew to VA then took a bus to Damascus. I think that caused my initial disaster bc the 2 soda cans compressed further so that the inside can blocked the ports on the rim of the outer can. That's part of why I had to make more stoves. I bounced some stoves ahead but too far ahead. I couldn't get it to work anyway. I think I have to make my stoves smaller or burn more fuel. Fyi 2 Tbs of fuel, ie 2oz or 60 mL burns for about 10 min which is enough time to boil a liter of water according to his test time. I'm determined to get this working. He makes it look easy!!
I think this actually answers most of my questions. I emailed last summer about difficulties at 9000 ft elevation. Thank you for getting back with me. My son and I tried using the stove on the AT and it was a total bust. We tried modifying. I went back to Damascus and stayed at the Broken Fiddle for a couple days and made a couple duplicates but they wouldn't work at 1500 - 3000 ft elevation. This year I've placed the center holes closer together which helps but regardless of what i do, i end up using the butane torch to light the freaking thing. And I have to be careful bc it gets so hot the penny started melting the aluminum can. Ay ay ay! Canto y no llores! I'm a science teacher fcol. This shouldn't be so hard! I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Do I need to let it sit longer for the gas to evaporate before I light it? Maybe I have to fill the can full of alcohol? This doesn't work well backpacking bc I'd have to buy fuel every 3 days, carry extra bottles. Maybe I'll switch to the Vienna sausage can. That may be less frustrating, faster and more conservative on fuel for backpacking. Why won't this work though? What am i doing wrong? I follow your directions to a T. I've probably made a 12-18 stoves with variations trying to get it to work. I've eliminated altitude as a variable, temp, wind... Jiminy Crickets Batman!
Eureka! I got it to work. I have to pour heet all the way under, on top and around the can to get it hot enough to burn. That's after letting it sit for about 3-5 min to let the gas fumes build inside the can. It wouldn't light until I let it set a cpl min then poured extra fuel around the base of the can and on top. I actually lit it from the base of the can rather than the top. I used an itty bitty lighter since my butane torch ran out of fuel. Thanks! A little perseverance paid off v
Another reason to no use a Zinc penny is that on top of the low melting point Zinc produces toxic fumes when burned. One of the things I learned when learning coppersmithing. If you're not sure if it's zinc or copper do not put heat to it without a respirator on, and I mean a real one not a dust mask. If you know the melting point then its easy to figure out what it is by doing a burn test. Also don't make a trivet to set your pot on out of galvanized steel, it is also toxic.
Carbon felt also works well for the penny stove. :)