Watch THIS Before You Buy an Alcohol Stove!: Alcohol Stove Battle - Testing 11 Different Stoves
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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I can't believe they ever boiled with all these people watching.
Hahahahah.
More exciting than watching paint dry.
Mademoiselle - if it was one colour, of course you are right - but if it were 14 different colours - all your fav colours - think you might have to change your mind some........
Totally brilliant. :D
😂
I've now made several cat can stoves in different styles and sizes and they're my go to. I just don't think you can beat them for simplicity and performance.
Don't be so negative..you CAN possess every alcohol stove out there. Think of it as a bucket list achievement.
Great and informative video..love watching water boil.
Good stand is important. If you put pot standing on narrow burner, is possible lose your soup or even get burn yourself. Windshield is also needed. Alcohol flame is very sensitive to wind.If you want save fuel in long trip, you can use some insulator for keeping food hot. Good isulators are light. It require more time.
Great video and very informative. ill stick with my Trangia since i can have fuel in it, and i actually use the simmer ring.
I watched to the end. I so enjoyed this expose on alcohol stoves. I have the Trangia, and made a pop can stoves in Scouts.
I love all things stoves. I mostly dO canoe backtripping. I have lightweight stuff, but definitely have some luxury items too.
When I decided to purchase an alcohol stove and associated mess kit "package" some 11 years ago I was fortunate to be able to acquire the last available stainless steel Swedish Army Mess Kit with included windscreen and original (heavier) Trangia burner from a vendor in the UK. I proceeded to strip the mess kit of its OD paint and polish it to like-new condition. It is impossible to improve on perfection, or at least pointless to attempt such. But since the originals are no longer made, I can see why there are so many "knock-offs" available now. Be sure to label your methyl alcohol with poison labels. Especially if you are fond of gin, vodka, or moonshine.
What about the ones you just treated. Which ones are wind resistant?
Good to know, and very informative video 👍 subscribed
Great to know about alcohol stoves thank you!!! Then there is the penny stove have you tested that?
Always interesting thanks.👍🇨🇦
A Larger version of the penny stove would be my choice as I think when the top is covered with the penny you get a more aggressive flame so faster boil only my opnion.
Monster can.
Why does the penny do that?
1:30 I am from Ukraine, tomorrow we expect second blackout induced by Russian bombing of our electricity grid, so it is no wonder I finding great relief in watching how alcohol stoves are created/operated. Learned about them two days ago, and find them totally fascinating. Already ordered one, hope it will manage to arrive at my local post service before russian rockets will fall on our energy infrastructure. But if it won't happen - I now know at least three ways to create them from used tin cans. :)
why am i interested in these camping stove vids? i don't even camp.
erik berry I hate the outdoors. I am obsessed with all camping equipment.
Interested in cooking outdoors then?
It will build in your system and will eventually overtake you. The Call Of The Wild always wins in the end.
@@EM-cg4iy why hate the outdoors??
Because you are a scientist, an inventor, an artist, and a curious human being. That is why. Its not about camping. Its about how to create a heat source from such a simple device. I love camping stuff for the same reason. I have the soul of an inventor and artist. I adore this kind of stuff. Also great knowledge to build up your McGyver instincts.
What is it with ultra fast boil times......isn't life fast enough without worrying about boil times when you are trying to relax on a camping trip.Just chill people,these stoves boil water plenty quick enough,why rush the experience.Brilliant little stoves as a back up too if wood isn't available for a wood burning stove or it's damp where you are camping.Essential kit to keep as a back up if it isn't been used as your main cooking source.Great vid,thanks for taking the time to make it.
I enjjoy being stove free but not fire starter free.
At camp pendleton we had to hike for 18 hours, and then they let us take a break and eat food. I had everything prepared, I squeezed multiple tubes of food into my mouth and down into my stomach without barely chewing. I had my entire days worth of food down in roughly 2 minutes. I was cleaning up my trash and putting my pack back on when my DI told us to get up and move. I was the only one who had a full stomach, everyone else was complaining. Time can mean everything, I'm not just out to camp, I'm there to train for war. A hot meal is a luxury, but I might not have 10 minutes.
This 22 min video went by very quickly. It was very well presented, interesting, and informative. Thanks!
Well thanks!
i agree! i enjoyed this video, excellent work!
It was only 15 minutes from blooming.
I have used the same Trangia for over 20 years and it still works great. If I want speed I will take my Rocket stove or Jetboil with me, but that's not what the alcohol stove is all about. After it cools down I can screw back on the top with fuel in it and throw it back in the pack. I have made stoves and bought other alcohol stoves over the years but I always go back to my trusted Trangia.
the comedic timing of the pause followed by "it's a knock off" was gold
Test flaw noted...The Trangia was placed into the Firebox Nano with the use of the "Nano Sticks" this elevated the burner as opposed to the use of the Evernew which was placed on the baseplate of the Firebox Nano with no elevation - the distance of the flames were not the same.
This caused different flame heights and different temperatures.
I have a LOT of alcohol stoves. Some DIY and some purchased. None are as good as the ready to use stove called the "Fancee Feest". The rest of my stoves just sit in a box gathering dust. Yes you can build your own and that is fun yet...for colder temps and faster bloom...go with the fancee feest.
Kinda happy with my Trangia's, respectable boil times, respectable burn times, middle of the road price, and between the lid and simmer ring your able to transport fuel between burns if necessary, and you can modify the temp/efficiency if you don't need full boil. I can even live with firebox soldering both of mine for me, but I'm definitely glad I watched this all the same!
Some of my comment is not directly related to alcohol stoves but might be helpful to some folks with little experience. I wasn't aware of the Rainier tragedy noted below. Sorry to learn about that. It's obvious that methanol stoves would not be used in a mountaineering situation. I am an experienced long distance hiker but no longer am able to do that. As someone pointed out, without a proper windscreen, fuel consumption would be excessive. I learned that the hard way in Maine. I ran out of fuel due to high winds even with a wind screen and had to borrow canister fuel and a stove from Boy Scouts. My opinion based on experience is that this type stove is only suited for above freezing weather and low wind. All things being equal I would buy the cheapest style or make my own stove . In addition, I would learn to make a proper fire in case it is needed. It is always good to have a backup plan.
Il buy two white box stoves , i survived 8 months in the mountains with one0
What tragedy are you talking about?
@@carlindurfee7566 Not sure Carlin, its been a year. since I commented. I was watching a lot of equipment videos back then so I might have mixed up some comments. There have been a lot of deaths on Rainier, over 400 I believe, and I doubt if any are related to stoves. Sorry for the confusion.
It was worth it just for the "...and you are considering watching me boil 22 cups of water." My other hobbies include watching grass grow, and timing paint drying.
in the spring, as the plants come alive, there is a magical time.
my car turns this awesome shade of green. I wait weeks watching the plants grow, then for the real magic, over 3 days, you can actually see the green form on the cars. I stopped painting when I found that I get a three-fer..... 11 months of watching the weather, 2 months of watching plants grow, then 3 glorious days of watching the car turn green. It makes watching concrete harden seem like a 10-yard dash at the Olympics.
@@dave-in-nj9393 I read this in David Attenborough's voice
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏴
@@dave-in-nj9393 This is one of the best comments I've ever come across. Thank you.
When did chris pratt start making camping vids?
I have the evernew titanium. When I bought it about 5 years ago it was about $30. I have been very happy with it and, I use it to make coffee in the morning as I travel the US in my van. Very detailed testing and excellent video.
The Evernew Titanium burner has a fiberglass wick in it, the nockoff hasn't. I own both and disassembled my nockoff and put a carbon felt in it and now it burns much faster (4:12 minutes)
A few other burners:
- The Out-D is lame, but easy to disassemble. I also put a carbon felt wick into there and it became a real beast! I burns half a liter (a bit more then 2 cups) in 4:05 minutes. Only my Fancy Feast stove (Cat foot stove) was a bit faster.
- The slowest burner was the Tatonka burner with 10:10 minutes. It has no wick. DON'T BUY IT! It's a total waste of money.
- The Toaks titan ist my lightweightest stove with 20 grams. It performs quite well for its tiny size (5:40)
- The Vargo titan is also tiny, but you have to preheat it with a drip of alcohol in a bottlecap underneath. (6:47)
- I own some other Trangia nockoffs and the all have no wick inside and ther performs horribly.
Another important thing is the pot stand. With my Trangia within the Trangia 25 pot stand it lasts 9:15. Within a cheap hobo stove (Canway) water boiled at 4:41 . That narrow tube of the hobo around the Trangia made a rocket stove effect.
The pot itself is another time-killer. A pot too small wastes precious heat. I prefer pots with a heat sink on the bottom. I tested AceCamp, Alocs and Lixada 1,2 liters and the last one is my most efficient one.
My best time all over was 3:58 with a Fancy Feast burner, a mesh tube 4 inch height, 4 inch wide and covered with aluminum foil around with a one inch gap on the upper and lower end. The pot was the Lixada pot.
In the last 3 months I did 82 tests in various combinations of burners, pot stands and pots.
You inspired me to make a test like yours, but im not a good entertainer. Hiram Cook is my hero and it's so sad that he dosen't do any vids anymore. That's a big loss for the alcohol stove fans.
I feel like the best figure of comparison is simply 'boil time' i.e. how long you can make your pot boil. Therefore, I've created a table ordered by boil time, then wait time until boil, then weight, then cost:
3:32 (8:42) 26g $3 Lixaa
3:30 (8:17) 110g $15 Trangia
3:07 (8:37) 88g $19 Solo Stove
2:16 (8:11) 44g $19 Boundless Voyage
2:01 (7:15) 14g $0 Sprite Can DIY
1:52 (6:32) 13g $25 MBDC Elite
1:37 (7:54) 12g $10 Turbo Gnome
1:36 (6:24) 28g $3 Fancy Feast DIY
1:10 (6:45) 14g $20 MBD Elite Pro
0:59 (6:48) 36g $43 Evernew
0:00 (0:00) 50g $1 Walmart DIY (FAIL)
Observations: The most efficient stoves (longest boil time) are also those that take the longest to start boiling. Lixaa and Trangia seem the best, depending on which design you prefer, and if you care about weight. MBDC Elite or Fancy Feast is best if you don't care about efficiency and just want a quick boil.
Also - I feel like whether you use a pot stand or not can make a big difference. Pot size will definitely matter.
Best comment ever 😂
Amazed at this comment .. awesome info ..thanks
Invaluable comment considering the second thing we use a camp stove for is to boil ramen noodles for 3 minutes, it helps if the stove can actually do that. I wonder what would happen if he ran this same test with 2oz of fuel?
You cannot directly compare boil times because the boils are not the same.
If a stove has more heat output then the boil will be stronger so the stove will vaporize more water in the same time.
It is no suprise that the weakest stoves in your tests boiled water the longest since those have the weakest boil
@@martinerhard8447 I don't think that's true, the video shows that all the stoves ended their burn with basically the same temperature, so I don't think their heat trajectories during boil were very different.
I've seen so many Videos and made so many stoves i lost count.. speed and efficiency all go out the window when you're out camping.. environmental conditions like Wind, Temperature, Moisture, Elevation ect.. all make a big difference when your counting on a stove the most. I'd like to see a test out in conditions one would expect during a Hike or Camping :)
jason dundom as much as I know Ernie put a lot of time into this video. You are very correct.
Alky stoves are all fair weather friends. Alcohol has the least heat value per pound, it makes the coldest flame and gives off the most moisture. Maybe that's all you need. But MSR was founded around 1970 by some Seattle mountaineers after two of their colleagues died on Mt. Rainer from dehydration, because their gasoline stoves couldn't't produce enough heat to melt the snow that would have kept them alive. MSR still follows that legacy. "Gaz" (butane/propane mix) for 3 seasons, liquid gasoline/kero/diesel for cold and wind. Akly? No thanks. And the invisible blame flame has set many things on fire. Cheap & light, yes, but so are cold snickers bars.
@@lyfandeth you are right for sure,a windscreen is a must and if you are counting ozs ,well .
mine will make coffee and is better thin nothing , barely.
I would not want any of those long priming stoves in outdoor conditions.
@@practicalguy973 I've used several outdoors to boil water for CoCo and cook sausage and eggs.. in hot and cold rainy weather, some work well in both conditions like the (Catcan).. some barely worked at all.. some failed completely lol hence my comment for a outdoors test.
Thanks. That was interesting. The take-away that I have learned is that it doesn’t matter too much what you use. My cooking system is the Trangia stove and the Firebox. In you analysis you didn’t talk too much about the added usability of having an adjustable simmer lid. When cooking numerous items timing is critical. Using that feature allows you to ensure that things on the stove stay hot but not burn/scorch while you are cooking steaks on the open fire pit. Similarly, having a lid to snuff out the flame allows you to save fuel for the next time. In summary, there is more to consider than weight, time-to-boil, and consumption rate. I particularly like the Firebox system because it is multi-dimensional in that I can use twigs and branches. Or, I can use the Trangia. Or, I can use pellets,,or charcoal. Very flexible. I frequently use theTrangia w/Firebox because of convenience. It is quick to start and quick to stop. Also, there is no wood ash byproducts to dispose of. Having said that, I have watched you DIY videos because I don’t always have my cooking system with me (it requires advanced planning) and in an emergency situation like a flood, hurricane, tornado, it may be critical to boil water for first aid, drinking, or c-rats. Your demonstrations are extremely helpful. Thanks for all you do for our community.
I've always gotta cook water before & after food for hot drink & washing up so 2 stoves are my ideal.
"c-rats" ?
@@samhain9394 c-rats is a military term for the emergency food that sailors are provided to use when they have abandoned ship and need to stay alive. They have been used around for a long time and used to be pretty bad. They have improved a great deal and now are pretty decent. They are analogous to the dehydrated meals that are produced by companies like Mountain House, etc. The emergency rations that were provided by the Navy contained other things needed to stay alive until rescued. Sorry for using military jargon.
@@elderhiker7787 oh, "rations". Right.
I have the Trangia for over 25 years
At that time i used denatured alcohol
And it worked very well ...also burned clean...now a shelf decoration...
Those were the days
What stove are you using nowadays
Notice that when the outside temperature drops, as it usually does this time of the year, titanium alcohol burners requires more effort to ignite and bloom than the Trangia (brass), since titanium does not conduct heat very well. Hiram Cook did a few test on that with different titanium burners by Toaks. This is also my experience when trying to use my Evernew burner vs the Trangia during winter. Also notice that *some* of the "knock-off" stoves (Evernew- and Trangia copies) does not have internal wicks.
If all you have is gasoline you need a titanium , betcha didden't think about that
Use a primer pan, e.g. the one from Trail designs ($ 3) for this "cold" stoves.
@@billrussell7672 Do you mean due to the temperature?
In that event, what do you think of using a small steel can - peas tin, etc, maybe?
@@ipedros7 for alcohol they use small steel pans
@@billrussell7672
If you're still alive after using gasoline, let us know how long you were in hospital.
thank you so much for using metric system. makes me understanding your excellent measurements way easier
After watching several videos, I built a stove using a 12 oz beer can and a 7.5 oz soda can. The bottom 1" of the beer can became the stove bottom. The soda can is the inner sleeve. The beer can's top ring minus flat part where the pull tab attaches, slips over the bottom and the short soda can cylinder. The burner jets are 5/32" holes about every 1/2"" on the outside, top of the beer can's shoulder. I also inserted the drill bit and bent the jets a bit vertically. that helped direct the flame upward. The soda can part fits tightly between the top/bottom beer can sections. I cut 4 small triangular slits in the bottom of the soda can to allow good fuel flow. I enlarged the hole in the soda can where the pull tab top was removed. The opening is about 60% of the top. Also drilled 3/32 inch holes in the perimeter of the soda can. Four small grooves in the top lip of the beer can to allow air flow if the pot is on the stove. I JB welded the beer can and the soda can top edge to the top inner area of the beer can. This may have reduced performance a bit but I wanted it to be sturdy. Weight .5 oz. So about performance.
Once ounce of denatured alcohol. Time to start of bloom - 45 seconds. Full on in 1 minute 15 seconds. After full bloom, placed 700ml titanium pot with cover on containing 2 cups tap water on a pot on a stand, 1 1/4" above stove. Time to boil 4 minutes. Total burn time, 15 minutes. Ambient temp 75F. Elevation 500ft. No wind. Follow up test. Same conditions except pot directly on stove after full bloom. Time to boil, 5 min 20 seconds. Total burn time 35 minutes with pot on the stove. That is NOT a misprint. 35 minutes during which time the boil was maintained.
I must have gotten lucky. My first stove build and performance is better than most of the versions I see on UA-cam.
Maybe you better make a video, hoss. Seems like you've created a sound design.
@@ashoe865 made the videos. On my channel- Tom Loves DIY. Check them out.
@@tomlovesdiy I see your channel, but find only a "squirt cheese" can stove. Don't have this can's in my "corner of the world" to try.
Curious about your beer+soda can stove. Seems that you put the soda can upside down inside the beer can... ?
I've used small soda cans as inner sleeve inside beer cans, buts use the conventional double wall stove (kind of Trangia TB 25 clone) holes pattern, work well but not much efficient (burn time).
What confuse me is this part:
*"I enlarged the hole in the soda can where the pull tab top was removed."*
- If the soda can is upside down inside of beer can, what the purpose of this hole?
The hole are not in beer can top (where the pull tab is fit)?
and
*" Also drilled 3/32 inch holes in the perimeter of the soda can."*
-As the soda can is for create the sub-camera, what the purpose of this holes, and where is their placement in the soda can - relatively to their height?
I have used the same Trangia stove for over 20 years and love it.
Where did you get
Thanks for the video! Great job boiling water. I've boiled quite a bit today myself while designing my own stove. It's kind of a cross between the Evernew and the Fancee Feast stoves, but it gets longer boil times. Glad you put those comparisons up, as it lets me know how my DIY stacks up. I got some numbers on mine today. It weighs in at 0.8oz, primes in 11s, boils 2 cups in 6:38 and burnout happens at 10:47 w/ 1oz denatured alcohol. After seeing how much people pay for the minibull stoves I'm starting to wonder if mine may actually be worth selling.
Love your stove vids! Guess im one of the weirdos 🤪
I always wondered about all those stoves out there, this was really good.
IMHO My Fancy Feast DIY with carbon felt is as good if not better than any purchased stove I have.
Girlfriend: let’s NetFlix and chill.
Me: let’s watch water boil.
Some folks think this alcohol stove phenomenon is fairly new . My first one was made 55 years ago from a tomato paste can and burned moonshine . I have the Trangia and military issue Svea , but have yet to see a factory made that works better or as well as home made .
My tip for cold weather = Cut a small strip of aluminum from a can . Bend it to fit inside the stove and place a small piece of trioxane on the strip to heat the stove and get the alcohol to vaporize . This works at 50 below zero . This is a great video and much appreciated . Thanks Paleo Hiker MD .
I am curious, do you remember the design of you 55 years tomato paste stove?
Or just use the can without modifications for burn the moonshine?
Interesting does the small inner aluminium would that also help do secondary burns? Cheers
@@ipedros7 This small strip of aluminum is used to hold a piece of solid fuel to heat the alcohol and get the alcohol burning .
Without the alcohol fuel , the solid fuel would heat a metal container for tea .
I will stick with my Trangia. Its a tried and trusted friend.
It seems to have a lower power output than most. But also burn comparably much longer. But overall the highest fuel efficiency, aka most water boiled per amount of fuel.
Hi James can you use it indoors?
@@melaniesutcliffe2697 I have several times when the power has gone out. Too cook food. Just open a couple of windows. The stand it comes with is great. What your using is not the actual stand that you should use with the Trangia burner. Its the stand that makes the Trangia burner so great.
@@longrider42 Thanks For getting back to me. That's great im going to get one ordered on amazon. Looks a great bit of kit... 👍🏽
Hiram Cook was the master at this. One thing Hiram always did, was he would wait until the stove “bloomed” before placing the pot of water on. The stove really isn’t ready to cook until it’s fully bloomed. We all miss Hiram Cook. R.I.P.
Its still burning fuel prior to bloom. This would be the most accurate way.
I hate cats and cat food I'd never ever eat cat food, I can drink a can of sprite though so i'll do that I'll make a Sprite can stove.
Harkins back to the videos by the master of all things alcohol stoves Hiram Cook! Great work!
Ah yes, I miss Hiram too :)
PaleoHikerMD
Is Hiram still around?
@@PaleoHikerMD I don't think he's posting any videos anymore.
PaleoHikerMD If I’m not mistaken, I think he passed away. I agree, he tested everything thoroughly. May he Rest In Peace. -Stephen, Ohio
Buckeye Bushcrafter He appeared to have posted on Facebook in April. Hopefully he is still with us.
Great job!
I modified the fancy feast stove.
For the inside can I use a Sapporo beer can cut 2 and 5/8 inches and a Bumblebee minced classic can as the base. Everything else is done in the same way. It is more stable. It can boil very quickly and the larger reservoir allows for near 20 minute cook times (I fried a steak in a cast iron skillet).
That's cool.
How much fuel does that 2⅝" hold?
You gotta love that fire box nano
Great video. I like you call a spade a spade. Good methodology and honest you are an engineer.
This was surprisingly really funny for a video about stoves
Nice video but where the graph??
A spread sheet would be nice.
Tinny makes the SFP now (like the gnome, but lighter and no pot stand required). Didn't get 2 cups to boil on .5 oz, but 1cup will.
22:31 minutes never went so quick! I am a fan of Tinny since the early beginnings of his YT channel.
I must admit, i came here because i want to buy a good alcohol stove but i ended up watching this video for entertainment. Was fun watching this lol
I don't know how much cat food I've eaten now but its paid off...love my cat can stove the most!! 👍
lol
Please don't eat catfood. It's really not good for you. There are things that have far more nutritional value and a better flavor for similar amount of money (money is the only reason I can think of anyone eating cat food... Other than that cat food diet which I'm pretty sure a couple people have died from...)
Cheeseboat20 I think it was a joke lmao he’s talking ab the fancy feast stove
Do be a darling and recommend something to go with an exceptional vintage of chardonnay.
Wow some people smh don’t know what a joke is completely over their head
If you look at the burn time after boiling the Trangia had the most burn time thereafter. Seems like it can burn 1/3rd time longer where as all the faster stoves are only around 1/4 or less burning time after boiling. The Trangia was most fuel efficient it seems.
As a Brit, watching 22 cups of water boiling is almost sexual.
As a U.S. coffee drinker, I totally understand you.
I’m a Brit and it did noting for me ☹️
I’m more into the whole ‘Cooking in the nude’ type videos 👍
Great video! Reminds me of the good old Hyrum Cook videos! What ever happened to him? I hope this ends with a dog rolling around!
How about the Arizona copper penny stove.
I wish you had included just a cat food can with 4 holes crudely stabbed with a knife or nail, a minimum effort, minimum cost, minimum time model. If the space between the holes and the pot is right, it will come close to matching the others.
Have to amend my previous comment. I've moved on from beverage can stoves. Material is hard to work with and the stoves I made were a bit fragile. I now use squirt cheese cans for the base materials. Just finished the second test of my latest design (# 14.1). Best performance yet. 2 cups 62F water on an open 8cm stand. One ounce Jasco blue label denatured alcohol. 2.5 ml priming alcohol. 900 ml titanium pot. Boil (212F) in 6 minutes 45 seconds. Total burn time 13 minutes 40 seconds. Assuming heat output is fairly linear, that means my latest stove can boil 4 cups of 65F water on one ounce of denatured alcohol. This stove is made from the bottoms of two cans. Previous stoves were made from a bottom and a top. While they had very good boil times averaging around 5 minutes 30 seconds, they topped out at about 3.5 cups on one ounce of fuel. I will upload info to my UA-cam channel as an update to my existing Squirt Cheese Can stove build vid.
A really excellent video, but you should include showing the bloom. And start the timer with consistency. Not do some after you put the pot on and some after. But like I said, excellent video.
Quote of the day for me….”it’s a knock off”
Fantastic video!
I'm currently looking for a good Alcohol Stove so you've saved me a lot of time.
Thanks!
the best stove for me is the cat food can stove :P
Nice Vid!!! Love to see you add the TOAKS Titanium Siphon Alcohol Stove. It’s awesome!!!
TheTrailDancerYes, It is a good one.
All the Minibull links seem to be dead. Are they still around?
Tinny has retired from making stoves. I followed his stove videos for years and I own numerous MBD stoves made by Tinny......Take care, Bluefin.
I'd rather take an Esbit and solid fuel tablets than have to carry around one of these stupid things and a bottle of alcohol and a wind screen, etc.
Swings and roundabouts.
You said there's 'no way you could own all the alcohol stoves out there'. Don't be so negative. I believe in you. You can do it. Never give up. There's always room for another stove!!!
You gotta believe! 😜
Recently learned about the volcano alcohol stove by fire maple. Any chance you will review it in the future?
Lol exactly 1 week later you did. Thank you
What type of alcohol did you burn?
Have you ever tried the alcohol stove from Starlyte with the Caldera Cone? Read it can boil 500 to 600 ml of water with less than 1 fliud ounce of fuel; and, does not spill fuel. Would like to hear your thoughts on that stove and how it compares with the other stoves.
Good stuff! Have literally burned gallons of fuel testing stoves. For me the Fancee Feest or "cat can" as you call it is my fave. No pot stand needed, efficient and lights in the coldest temps thanks to the wicking material. Also the have a sweet spot for the Trangia, despite it's weight.
I agree about the Trangia and DIY stoves. The Trangia is a legend, bombproof and robust. Mine is over thirty years old and is my go to stove for a day walk where I'm not so weight conscious because I don't need to have a separate fuel bottle and it has the simmer cap to snuff it out. On a backpacking trek, I use a lighter DIY stove made out of drinks cans or burn twigs in my homemade stoves (I use a 120cm Zebra billy can for base camps or a Stanley Adventure pot on a trek).
Seems to me the home made versions are as good as all the others.
I watched and I ended up digging in my recycle bin. Now I have a fully functional meets my needs alcohol stove! Amazes me that I didn't have to buy anything! I have a Solo Titan twig stove and I wanted an alcohol burner to use in it when I don't have twigs or for when the titan is too hot for cooking. But now I am thinking I have good options if I make a few of these with different intensities. I plan to make a dozen different soda can stoves and vary the the number of holes and size of holes to find the perfect fry an egg stove, keep foods warm stove, turbo boiler.... anyhow, thanks! (oh and yes I do enjoy watching water boil!)
The Solo stove is a clone of the Esbit stove.
I remember the days of Hiram Cook - I like to watch boiling water....
Question:
“So why didn’t you just light them all up at once and see who lasted the longest?”
22 minutes video changes to 12
...just messing with you, man.
I would have watched it even if you had 47 stoves!
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TO LIGHT THEM ALL AT ONCE WOULD TAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE. Science requires precision.
I really enjoyed your video, it's been very helpful and tells the facts about the truth ? THANKS AND I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOUR NEXT VIDEO
Super fantastic video
Watching water boil is one up on watching paint dry :)
when you are making coffee on the trail in the am, it's like watching magic.
Awesome video man, I’ve been considering adding an alcohol stove to my kit and really only knew about the Trangia - nice to know there’s lots of viable alternatives including a DIY option. Thank you!
$20-$25 Dollar for a diy alcohol stove made of an old can. That's a joke. 😳🤦♂️
Just because the material is cheap doesn't mean there is no work that has to be paid. And when you are a small independent business making low volumes of products, work just costs a bit more.
@@trulsdirio Yep, depends on what you think your time and energy is worth!
Watching you boil water is much more fun than watching paint dry and grass grow. lol
Try this :)
For one dollar, I purchased a Sterno style Catering Chaffing Dish warmer from The Dollar Tree,... Small nail popped the top off under the lid, stuffed it loosely with fiberglass insulation for a wick & it holds a LOT of alcohol :)
I put a piece of plastic over the top before I put the lid on to seal it,... Now, it's not a fast burner but you don't always want to rapidly boil water,... It's a great lower temp for cooking bacon or sausage or eggs & for heating beans & soup :)
Stereo cans will leak alcohol if left in them. Cat can stove can be packed in because of open design to keep space at minimum. And it fits in Stanley Adventure cookset nicely.
I actually really liked the Mini Bull stoves. Wanted to get one but it seems Mini bull has disappeared of the internet. Do you happen to know what happened? Also, a very good video as always.
Saw similar on Etsy
@@SnoringVids thank you!!! I never thought of going on there as I haven't ever used that site. Would you mind providing some links to ones that you found if you don't mind?
@@MichaelStroup On Etsy search for Tinnystrash for see the stoves he made available. E.g.
MBDC (Minibull Designs Cult) Gnome turbo.
@@Sokol10 dude you are so freaking awesome!!
Up to date on your videos, I think the reason why the Catstove has the best time is because it burns as a wick and not by jets that blows a lot of the flame up the side of the pot.
Watched your vid a week ago. Didn’t go through the hundreds of comments, so maybe my question was already addressed.
I notice that open top stoves of the Trangia and beer can varieties, can flare up quite high if the pot is lifted off and a cover isn’t put on quickly. Given the invisible flame in the daylight, it seems to me that this could pose a safety issue (I’m thinking of granddaughters getting too close. I know the Trangia design can be snuffed quickly, but wonder if the penny can design wouldn’t offer greater safety than the open top beer can designs? Not a performance question, so much as a safety question. Your thoughts?
That's 20 minutes I'll never get back
Oh bloom off!
i've never seen a review on those wood burning alcohol stove hybrids on ali express. it's basically one of those 4 sided twig stoves with a couple groves in it that hold an open saucer bowl of alcohol that you light. i was seriously considering getting one because they basically had their own windscreen built in and if i ran out of alcohol i could just use twigs
One variable for alcohol stove efficiency and effectiveness is the stove stand height. Differing stove designs may have different optimum stand heights.
i was an idiot that watched you boil 22 cups of water, I have a few i was just super curious, lets say i watched it for science lol
Oh baby... I'll watch water boil by an alcohol stove anyday.
A Fancy feast stove works in sub-zero degree temps with sub-zero temp fuel. Love the Flat Cat stove design too.
I found that the cat can stoves don't work as well at high altitudes 9000+.
But I was using rubbing alcohol not denatured at the time.
After watching about 10 of your videos I figure it's time to subscribe! Have enjoyed every one I've watched so far!
Thanks so much! Welcome aboard... :)
The white Box stove stand works awesome with the evernew. Easy to push away for simmering.with pot directly on stove.
Earned a "thumbs up" just for the "spent 20 minutes watching water boil" joke!
I made a PCT alcohol stove from 2 beer cans back in 1998. Bought a Trangia 27 in 2021. California regs prohibit alcohol and twig stoves in the backcountry.
16:22 - If someone is not after breaking the record for boiling water, the most efficient in fuel use - boil the water and keeps burning for more time:
- Trangia
- Solo Stove ( copycat of the Esbit AB300BR burner, in turn a copycat of Trangia TB25 burner)
- Lixada (cheap copycat of Trangia copycat's) ;)
Dear Ernie - Well this was a real nail-biter. I stumbled-across your UA-cam channel and enjoyed your 'battle-of-the-alcohol-stoves'. Glad that I had a hot mug-of-tea and a biscuit to make it even better. Regards - Paul (Garland, Tx)
“You are watching me boil 22 cups of water” *looks down* video is 22 min long……………STILL WATCHING!!
The only problem I have with alcohol is in real world windy and real windy situations, the gas stove is superior in those conditions. Loved this video, I have several diy stoves, but my favorite alcohol is my trangia.
Alcohol stoves: what are they good for? Absolutely nothing. Just kidding. Enjoyable video. Ramen and alcohol stove-Yummy.