I bought the Commando 450 for my shower. It was made in the former Yugoslavia. They don't sell them to the public, it's for elephants but, from what I understand, the Serbs are fanatics about their showers.
Jeff removed the filter for the showerhead so the nozzles dont get clogged, the actual restrictor is the blue piece with small o-ring that was beneath the filter.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I followed your advise about removing that water saver and my wife says your that greatest thing since sliced bread. She has fallen in love with our “new” shower. Thought I had lousy water pressure but your advise proved that wrong. Thanks again!
What you took out is not a restrictor, it's just a plastic sediment filter/mesh. You left the restrictor in the shower head. It's blue and clearly visible at 9:18.
I removed the exact same part from my Gerber shower head 3 months ago and it almost doubled the water volume coming out. Since then I've been telling everyone I know if they want more water flow to do what I did. Whether you call it a restrictor or a filter it does the same thing - it restricts the water flow.
If you are very careful, you can usually drill out the flow restrictor, and reinstall the filter screen. I usually try to match the restrictor size to the drill bit, and working carefully, slowly drill it out. A vice to hold the shower head is nice if you have one. Don't push too hard, you can drill right through the whole assembly if you're not careful. Low rpms. Gentle pressure.
My restrictor was permanently placed in the shower head. I literally just went the ghetto route and drilled a fat screw down the middle to open the hole up lovely. It was life changing. Hope this helps anyone else that encounters the same problem. Now I shower in a fire hydrant lol 🚿
I recommend the Commando 450, especially the one made in the former Yugoslavia, and the Serbs are fanatic about their showers. Might have to look on the black market though cause they're not really meant for people, mostly used for elephants in the circus.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.. yes I'm one of those people with OCD...Jeff I know it is CRAZY. But I hate that drip at the shower head joint, in the shower. .LOL Thanks for fixing it..
Thanks for this. In my mobile park they put water restrictors on our water supply and my shower has been pathetic. I took the restrictor out of the shower head and I think I'm going to enjoy my showers again.
Flow restrictors can't be removed so easily. One look at that design and it's easily identified as a screen. Per delta engineering flow restrictors are further embedded into the unit.
The flow restrictor was that blue thing still in the shower head after he took the sediment filter out. Segment filter is designed to be screwed out for cleaning and replacing...
My shower head started leaking, so I bought a new handheld showerhead. The old one was 5yrs old. The water pressure was SO BAD with the new shower head. I could hold the shower head with the spray pointing toward the ceiling and the water jets would only shoot out about 2 inches above the shower head. So I removed the shower head and realized there was a tiny blue plastic restrictor installed in the base of the shower head handle. I removed that, reinstalled it, and now the pressure is excellent. I also did the same thing on my bathroom sink and kitchen faucet. I hate wimpy water pressure.
Before you take out the water restrictor, ensure you have a large drain that can handle the extra water. I loved the water pressure but I was up to my ankles in water!
@@dennisblogg There are two types of single-handle water fixtures common in North America: A rotating style like is seen in this video, which only adjusts the mixture of hot and cold water, and a lift-and-rotate style, where you lift (or pull) the handle to control pressure, and rotate to control temperature. :)
An aerator mixes the surrounding air with the shower head flow. Making a smooth stream and using less water. And of course a lesser impact on the environment.
all shower heads come with gasget. I ve never seen a single shower head with tapered thread. Can there be one? yes sure, but I never seen. so you shouldnt put teflon tape. I said you shouldnt I didnt say you dont need to. Reason is if you put teflon to a gasget joint it is easier to leak than not using it. Since the thread is strait you are not squizing the teflon. and sometime teflon gives feeling of you are done turning. it gives a tightness feeling but you still didnt squeze the gasget. Most probably the part you moved was also gasget. double function. Take it out and put a gasget. I have fixed so many showerhead leak just taking the teflon and reinstaling in many years. you are one of the best guys in youtube. I never seen you doing something wrong. I think this is the only thing that need to be addressed. Thanks bro. Mahalo from Hawaii
I think the valve assembly was installed upside down which is why Jeff decided to reverse the handle. Reversing the handle is a bad idea. Reversing it has gravity turning it on and lifting it is an unnatural movement to fully turn it off. Typically, there is a stop adjustment for the hot side which is why it wasn't level. My recommendation is to position the handle correctly even though it does not look perfect.
It causes problems later on too. That delta valve can rotate a bit and you'll get leaking after turning it on and off over the years. When I moved back into this house the assembly was always dripping, the "plumber" for the rental company installed it upside down. It took me about three hours just to get it out of the damn housing.
@9:10: That's a screen, not an aerator or flow-restrictor. The blue thing is the flow-restrictor. If you remove the flow restrictor, reinstall the screen, unless you just like having calcium deposits in your fixtures that you can't clean out.
I'm not recommending you remove the flow restrictor but if you do, then replace it with a sediment screen otherwise you risk plugging some of the holes without an easy way to remove the sediment. Sediment is most likely to occur when the house water has been turned off and then back on. Since Jeff doesn't have a faucet in his shower, all sediment will always go through his shower head. Running the shower faucet for a couple minutes would reduce the risk.
Exactly what I came here to say. Our water company is constantly fixing leaks and turning off the water or it seems we're always fixing leaks of our own and having to turn the water off. Every time that water comes back on, sediment comes with it ( we also need to replace our old water heater) and I have to rinse the screens in the shower. If not for those screens, I'd have to replace my shower heads constantly. They don't reduce the pressure either like those plastic restrictors.
@@triciasanders2455solution to the sediment issue from the utility company: whole house water filter. Place it as close to where the water enters the house first. It will save you all kinds of grief. When I installed mine, I installed a carbon filter next in line before continuing on through the house. All taps had filtered water at them. Just change out the filters as needed. For me it was about once a year. For a family it will be sooner. And no more mud in my pipes, 😊
@@denisegaylord382 We have definitely talked about that because that's exactly what we need! We've had so many other projects that came first, we just haven't gotten around to that one! 🤦🏼♀️😂
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there's no problem in adding silicone and it looks way better imo
Delta makes a Monitor17 trim kit called Lahara that has two levers coming out of the same hole. The larger one adjusts pressure and the smaller one adjusts temperature. You can leave it at your preferred temperature and then adjust pressure to whatever you want. I really like that option. Had a cartridge blow on one due to unexpected freeze (it doesn't usually freeze here) but Delta sent a replacement for free. Installation for my application required access to behind the valve and the flange didn't sit flush against the wall- but I think that is because my wall ended up a bit wonky. The cement board must have bent slightly and the surround I put up over it followed the bend. Ether that or the flange was bent. Couldn't tell which but I applied caulk around it to cover the gap. I caulked around the bottom too. Oops. LOL. I can always cut a relief in the caulk below if push comes to shove. You'd have my shower trim if you hate seeing the silicone. LOL. I wasn't going to caulk until I saw the gap that was left and could not get the flange to adjust tighter. LOL. I'm sure my mother will let me know if she's not happy the way I renovate her bathroom. I'm glad you remembered that women do renos to. LOL. I'm the handy one-- although with recent health issues & loss of hand strength + arthritis, I have to get help from a younger male friend. My brother is the one who needs the high pressure to wash the product out of his hair. He's got like 10 bottles of product in my shower right now (since its the only working one in the house). I have 2 bottles. LOL. I need to see if my showerhead has that stupid aerator because I know it is going to get clogged by my hard water if I don't take care of it. Around here, you have to purge your lines a little before installing the valves & showerheads or else sediment that has been sitting in the pipes will clog them. I wish I'd watched this before I installed the shower trim in my bathroom-- but that was months ago and I'm glad I have been able to shower.
Some of these new shower heads have very small holes in the head in order to work with low flow heads. I discovered by accident that removing the flow restriction will give you nice high flow from the head but, you may also strip your skin off your body with all that pressure. Just my FYI.
@dennisblogg : Most all newer shower valves don't have single hot or cold water advertisements on them. If you saw the video here, you will notice only one handle. The reason for this is due to the newer type of shower valves, unlike a bathtub shower valves are strictly one handle. You can turn it on and adjust the temperature of your water. If you try to turn down the water pressure from a newer shower valve, you will simply get cold water until it turns completely off. In other words, you will be standing in very cold water, and with winter on it's way you might not enjoy an ice-cold shower...
I think your shower might have some abnormal stuff going on. I don't believe either a pressure balance mixing valve or thermostatic mixing valve should do this. Unless maybe you have an old-style simple mixing valve and your water heater just can't supply the GPM because of upstream restrictions? @@ssrrocks22
I can imagine people already getting annoyed with the shower handle Off position being on the left when on the back plate its labelled "off" on the right side.
If your shower pressure is extremely high after removing any restrictor, then you might have overall too high water pressure in your house and need a pressure regulator valve. Too high pressure in your pipes can cause them to fail.
@@cc_bloom Joints may begin to leak and some appliances connected directly to water might have issues. Typically 50 psi is normal, and a maximum of ~80 is fine as well, but continuous pressure >100 psi can become problematic.
This is nonsense.If your pipes are failing, then they are corroded to failure, and regardless of any restrictions, their life is at an end. Water delivery pressure in North America is nominally 60 psig (4 bar), perhaps slightly less if your house is at the end of a mains loop or at the top of a hill. Residential pipe/tubing is tested to 300 psi, and the burst strength is about double that, or 10x mains pressure. BTW the "pressure" of the water when it exits the faucet is atmospheric pressure. What you perceive as pressure is flow and/or velocity. The higher the flow through an orifice (i.e. the nozzles at the shower outlet) the higher the velocity will be. As correctly pointed out in the video, the shower restrictions that are factory-installed are designed to reduce flow, which will reduce velocity and the feeling of how hard the water is hitting your skin. Water conservation initiatives are designed to reduce water consumption, which only works if you don't take longer showers to compensate for the fact that the lower velocity is less efficient at ringing you off.
@@gavinmclaren9416 the pressure of the water coming out of a pipe is not “atmospheric pressure”. Atmospheric pressure is the pressure of the air around you. It’s typically around 15psi. If a water pipe has an internal pressure of over 100psi, it will cause strain in your joints. Just like too much air pressure can balloon a container if there’s too much of it. Water is incompressible, therefore the more you try to force it to be contained, the more damage it can cause. There’s a reason why pressure regulation valves exist, you know?! lol
In addition to the points that @nathanfisher1512 and @ssrrocks22 make in regards to removing the restrictor, if you have a tankless water ehater system, you also need to take into consideration the GPM capability of your water heater. If the flow is higher than the tankless can properly adjust the temperature rise for, you'll be taking a lukewarm high pressure shower
Jeff, the only thing I would have done differently is on the threads of the flange and screws would be some silicon grease on them before screwing in place. Just one little thing for later years...
either your cartridge is install upside down or your valve body is flipped. Also your valve body needs to be secured to some backing. I would start flipping the cartridge first. there a hot side labelled since a 1000 years
What about the Climate Apocalypse. The California Governor, Newsom, called for water restriction, year round, drought or no drought. Don’t let him be president, you’ll have no water pressure. Yay Jeff. I love your voice. Your wife is a lucky woman. Great work!
We definitely should save water where possible. If you take 1 hour showers maybe leave the flow restrictors in. And they make great 1 gallon per flush toilets now. Just read the reviews so you don’t get a bad model. But really watering plants is where the most water can be saved
I have seen the lunacy of newslum and his cadres. I actually picked out a shower system with body sprays, etc. It can not be legally sold in CA or NY. It uses too much water. Both states have plenty of resources if they allocate them correctly. This push for reducing the ability to clean bodies or flush toilets is unhealthy.
I keep seeing people sya "oh the restictor limits water so much, it only drips" then they show how to remove the restrictor, and show the water at full pressure. I have yet to find a video showing this "dripping" situation. Show me what those restricted flow head look like!
I'm from Europe and when I visited the U.S.A., i was shocked by the unconvenient shower in my hotel. A fixed shower head at the top and the faucet had only one degree of freedom - first you increase the water flow of cold water up to the maximum and then it starts adding hot water. I thought - this must be some old system, certainly nobody would install this nowadays. And as I see, it is still common and people do this voluntarily to their own homes :) You cannot have a warm (mixed) water of a lower than maximum flow? Well, for a fixed "rain" shower, this might not be the biggest problem. But I really cannot imagine using the fixed shower head. What if you want to wash just dirty feet? Or your whole body, but don't wet your hair (especiall women)? How to you give special attention to your private parts? How to you clean the shower itself? Of course - everybody can use what (s)he wants, my comment is not meant to criticize! I'm just expressing my surprise. If I bought a house with such a shower (well, it would be hard, it is hardly existing in my country), I would give it the top priority to replace it :)
I noticed the same thing. The valve body was just left floating. I should have been secured with the tile trim plate to set the proper depth. It would drive me crazy seeing that much sticking out like that.
Todays bathroom foam is more or less indestructible. The bathroom will need renovating by the time the foam is degraded to the point of needing replacing.
Why is that valve body flopping around? Isn't it supposed to be secured with screws inside the wall? And might be crooked because it's flopping around and you pull it with screws unevenly to the plate.
Yeah that's what I did when I installed my shower, it seems he is putting undue stress on the pipes behind the wall. Also it looks really bad sticking out that far.
BTW, instructions normally show the valid range of depth of the valve body inside the wall, so it's sticking out the right amount. I don't think, though, that a little bend will hurt the pipes. It's just that the plate and the body aren't supposed to form a "vise" holding them to the tiled board :-) The body is to be secured in the wall, and the plate pulled against the tile @@rockzors
Huh, I thought it was supposed to be some kind of filter or something. We have dirty well water and I find little sticks in that thing from time to time. 😂
@@dennisblogg Yeah that's the only reason I knew it was there. Water pressure just died one day and I took the shower head off and there's a whole damn stick in there 😂 It's happened another 3-4 times since then. Guess I'll just take it out, then.
It also protect those same sticks from getting stuck further into the head ,where you can’t take them out. Much easier to clean this restictor then replace the head.
You should install a sediment filter to your incoming water line from the well. Most well installations have them to prevent sand and other things from being pushed through the house's lines. It can also save your appliances that use water: hot water tank, washer, dishwasher, refrigerator...
The real issue here is the ridiculous pancake size shower head.. Why? Because it’s the latest trend. I’m sure everyone takes their visitors to the shower to show them their shower head🙄. You can use water responsibly and still have water pressure. Simply go back to the regular water restriction shower heads. They are often provided free by your local utility company.
Perfect, thank you.from my understanding, you have a monthly fee that you charge that show your customers how to do their own home renovations does any of those videos include how to remove and replace rotten sagging joist?
Leave the restrictor in place if you have teenagers that spend 1/2 hour or more in the shower. This is the solution to have any HOT water left. Believe me...
Ok so this has zero effect on water pressure , the pressure remains the same no matter , what your doing is trying to increase the flow rate , but this would only be achieved by removing g the actual restrictor ( which is the blue part ) what you removed is the filter 🤦🏽
Can you let us know how much the fine is for illegally removing the showerhead restrictor? US has a 2.5 GPM max and California has 2.0 GPM. Faucets are not required to have restrictors. I don't know how they can enforce this except when someone admits to it on UA-cam.
The restrictor is necessary if you have teenagers in the house. Especially if they are girls and don't know jack about plumbing and restrictors 🙂 In some jirisdictions, you can get arrested for teaching people to remove the restrictor.
Especially if they are boys and don't know jack about plumbing and restrictors. Not sure gender has anything to do with knowledge. Someone had to teach it to them. It’s not like genders are born with certain knowledge. My sister was taught about plumbing before she was 10.
The sex has to do (maybe "gender" doesn't). Because they see me screwing around with screws and the mother doing other things, they copy her and aren't interested in screws. (There are personalities that you can just take and teach whatever you want, but mine are not like that :-) @@ecospider5
WOW, that is a hell of a lot of Teflon tape. Two full wraps is plenty for all but the heaviest installs. Doing 5 full wraps is just begging for trouble. Please folks, do not do 5 wraps, you will regret it.
I like a lot of Jeff's videos, but this is not the profession result he stresses in those videos. No one would hire a plumber and accept a handle that is installed backwards.
Telling people to remove the aerator when most places are in drought is very irresponsible. I work in water conservation for a major city’s water utility and we need everyone of our customers reducing their water consumption. Not increasing it.
I bought the Commando 450 for my shower. It was made in the former Yugoslavia. They don't sell them to the public, it's for elephants but, from what I understand, the Serbs are fanatics about their showers.
😂 I see what u did there 🤣 Seinfeld 👏🏼
Good Lord, you could take paint off your car with that! What do you have in your yard? A fire hose?!? 😊
No, they sell it on eBay. But you fooled the blonde girl.
“They’re low flow”
I use Prell the hard stuff
Jeff removed the filter for the showerhead so the nozzles dont get clogged, the actual restrictor is the blue piece with small o-ring that was beneath the filter.
Yep. Noticed that too.
Correct. It’s the black o-ring that you need to remove. Just did that on a fixture I installed
Shhhhh, don't give away the secret.
yeppers
@@jfastardThe black o-ring seals the fixture to the stem. It's not a flow-restrictor.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I followed your advise about removing that water saver and my wife says your that greatest thing since sliced bread. She has fallen in love with our “new” shower. Thought I had lousy water pressure but your advise proved that wrong. Thanks again!
OMG this was perfect timing! A: I couldn't understand why there was this constant drip and B: the water pressure sucked! THANK YOU!
Hi Jennifer🌹🌹
How are you doing?
What you took out is not a restrictor, it's just a plastic sediment filter/mesh. You left the restrictor in the shower head. It's blue and clearly visible at 9:18.
Good luck removing that, ask me how I know 😂. They put valves on them as they constrict the line.
Now I just check flow rates when I shop, phuk low flow
I removed the exact same part from my Gerber shower head 3 months ago and it almost doubled the water volume coming out. Since then I've been telling everyone I know if they want more water flow to do what I did. Whether you call it a restrictor or a filter it does the same thing - it restricts the water flow.
If you are very careful, you can usually drill out the flow restrictor, and reinstall the filter screen. I usually try to match the restrictor size to the drill bit, and working carefully, slowly drill it out. A vice to hold the shower head is nice if you have one. Don't push too hard, you can drill right through the whole assembly if you're not careful. Low rpms. Gentle pressure.
My restrictor was permanently placed in the shower head. I literally just went the ghetto route and drilled a fat screw down the middle to open the hole up lovely. It was life changing. Hope this helps anyone else that encounters the same problem. Now I shower in a fire hydrant lol 🚿
I'm a dude with long hair that grew it out late in life. The water restrictor never crossed my mind. Excellent tip!
Thanks for the flow restrictor tip. That was extremely appreciated.
Man you got it all figured out. Keep teaching me daily. Appreciate the vids.
Good tips - wife needs to be happy 😀
I recommend the Commando 450, especially the one made in the former Yugoslavia, and the Serbs are fanatic about their showers.
Might have to look on the black market though cause they're not really meant for people, mostly used for elephants in the circus.
That gray piece you took out is not the restrictor. The blue piece in the shower head is.
yep
It looks like a strainer or filter but it probably also has the effect of a restrictor.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.. yes I'm one of those people with OCD...Jeff I know it is CRAZY. But I hate that drip at the shower head joint, in the shower. .LOL Thanks for fixing it..
Thanks for this. In my mobile park they put water restrictors on our water supply and my shower has been pathetic. I took the restrictor out of the shower head and I think I'm going to enjoy my showers again.
❤ 🙏 thank you for sharing!!! Very helpful and useful info
Not a flow restrictor. It's a screen that prevents sediment from lines / pipes from going into the shower head and clogging it.
It's a flow restrictor as required by US law. It also serves as a sediment screen.
Flow restrictors can't be removed so easily. One look at that design and it's easily identified as a screen. Per delta engineering flow restrictors are further embedded into the unit.
The flow restrictor was that blue thing still in the shower head after he took the sediment filter out. Segment filter is designed to be screwed out for cleaning and replacing...
@@Restless2010yep you get it.
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Nice job thinking outside the box in using a box has a cut out which is easier than a circle
1:59 "oh yeah, that's the hole right there" 😂
My shower head started leaking, so I bought a new handheld showerhead. The old one was 5yrs old. The water pressure was SO BAD with the new shower head. I could hold the shower head with the spray pointing toward the ceiling and the water jets would only shoot out about 2 inches above the shower head. So I removed the shower head and realized there was a tiny blue plastic restrictor installed in the base of the shower head handle. I removed that, reinstalled it, and now the pressure is excellent. I also did the same thing on my bathroom sink and kitchen faucet. I hate wimpy water pressure.
Undoubtedly the secret trick to the Commando 450... the most powerful showerhead available.
Before you take out the water restrictor, ensure you have a large drain that can handle the extra water. I loved the water pressure but I was up to my ankles in water!
Isn't the water flow adjustable with the lever in the US? Is it always fully on or fully off?
Not for single knob varieties. It’s on or off, the adjustment is temperature. There is a pressure adjustment just when cold.
@@dennisblogg There are two types of single-handle water fixtures common in North America: A rotating style like is seen in this video, which only adjusts the mixture of hot and cold water, and a lift-and-rotate style, where you lift (or pull) the handle to control pressure, and rotate to control temperature. :)
Because your drain was partially blocked from inadequate flow over the years….
@@rhkips I assumed it was the lift-and-rotate style. Didn't know the other one existed. Why would anyone want that? Is it alot cheaper?
Oh! I really like those tips. Great video.
Thanks so much!
Pressure will be the same, better flow is what you meant.
An aerator mixes the surrounding air with the shower head flow. Making a smooth stream and using less water.
And of course a lesser impact on the environment.
Restrictors dont affect pressure, pressure is the same everywhere along the whole line, it affects the water speed. I assume you mean flow rate.
all shower heads come with gasget. I ve never seen a single shower head with tapered thread. Can there be one? yes sure, but I never seen. so you shouldnt put teflon tape. I said you shouldnt I didnt say you dont need to. Reason is if you put teflon to a gasget joint it is easier to leak than not using it. Since the thread is strait you are not squizing the teflon. and sometime teflon gives feeling of you are done turning. it gives a tightness feeling but you still didnt squeze the gasget. Most probably the part you moved was also gasget. double function. Take it out and put a gasget. I have fixed so many showerhead leak just taking the teflon and reinstaling in many years. you are one of the best guys in youtube. I never seen you doing something wrong. I think this is the only thing that need to be addressed. Thanks bro. Mahalo from Hawaii
I think the valve assembly was installed upside down which is why Jeff decided to reverse the handle. Reversing the handle is a bad idea. Reversing it has gravity turning it on and lifting it is an unnatural movement to fully turn it off. Typically, there is a stop adjustment for the hot side which is why it wasn't level. My recommendation is to position the handle correctly even though it does not look perfect.
He didn't even secure the valve body either lol
It causes problems later on too. That delta valve can rotate a bit and you'll get leaking after turning it on and off over the years. When I moved back into this house the assembly was always dripping, the "plumber" for the rental company installed it upside down. It took me about three hours just to get it out of the damn housing.
@9:10: That's a screen, not an aerator or flow-restrictor. The blue thing is the flow-restrictor. If you remove the flow restrictor, reinstall the screen, unless you just like having calcium deposits in your fixtures that you can't clean out.
Why is the shower valve body lose? Is it because it’s not mounted properly?
as always, very informative. nice job.
I appreciate that
Love this channel
our gas tankless operation is more stable with all the restrictions removed except for the in-wall mixing/on/off valve.
I'm not recommending you remove the flow restrictor but if you do, then replace it with a sediment screen otherwise you risk plugging some of the holes without an easy way to remove the sediment. Sediment is most likely to occur when the house water has been turned off and then back on. Since Jeff doesn't have a faucet in his shower, all sediment will always go through his shower head. Running the shower faucet for a couple minutes would reduce the risk.
Exactly what I came here to say. Our water company is constantly fixing leaks and turning off the water or it seems we're always fixing leaks of our own and having to turn the water off. Every time that water comes back on, sediment comes with it ( we also need to replace our old water heater) and I have to rinse the screens in the shower. If not for those screens, I'd have to replace my shower heads constantly. They don't reduce the pressure either like those plastic restrictors.
@@triciasanders2455solution to the sediment issue from the utility company: whole house water filter. Place it as close to where the water enters the house first. It will save you all kinds of grief. When I installed mine, I installed a carbon filter next in line before continuing on through the house. All taps had filtered water at them. Just change out the filters as needed. For me it was about once a year. For a family it will be sooner. And no more mud in my pipes, 😊
@@denisegaylord382 We have definitely talked about that because that's exactly what we need! We've had so many other projects that came first, we just haven't gotten around to that one! 🤦🏼♀️😂
there's no problem in adding silicone and it looks way better imo
Delta makes a Monitor17 trim kit called Lahara that has two levers coming out of the same hole. The larger one adjusts pressure and the smaller one adjusts temperature. You can leave it at your preferred temperature and then adjust pressure to whatever you want. I really like that option. Had a cartridge blow on one due to unexpected freeze (it doesn't usually freeze here) but Delta sent a replacement for free. Installation for my application required access to behind the valve and the flange didn't sit flush against the wall- but I think that is because my wall ended up a bit wonky. The cement board must have bent slightly and the surround I put up over it followed the bend. Ether that or the flange was bent. Couldn't tell which but I applied caulk around it to cover the gap.
I caulked around the bottom too. Oops. LOL. I can always cut a relief in the caulk below if push comes to shove. You'd have my shower trim if you hate seeing the silicone. LOL. I wasn't going to caulk until I saw the gap that was left and could not get the flange to adjust tighter.
LOL. I'm sure my mother will let me know if she's not happy the way I renovate her bathroom. I'm glad you remembered that women do renos to. LOL. I'm the handy one-- although with recent health issues & loss of hand strength + arthritis, I have to get help from a younger male friend.
My brother is the one who needs the high pressure to wash the product out of his hair. He's got like 10 bottles of product in my shower right now (since its the only working one in the house). I have 2 bottles. LOL. I need to see if my showerhead has that stupid aerator because I know it is going to get clogged by my hard water if I don't take care of it.
Around here, you have to purge your lines a little before installing the valves & showerheads or else sediment that has been sitting in the pipes will clog them.
I wish I'd watched this before I installed the shower trim in my bathroom-- but that was months ago and I'm glad I have been able to shower.
10:33 on an old fixture, a leak formed up there and just ruined a kitchen we just reno because the water followed the pipe down into the wall. :(
Some of these new shower heads have very small holes in the head in order to work with low flow heads. I discovered by accident that removing the flow restriction will give you nice high flow from the head but, you may also strip your skin off your body with all that pressure. Just my FYI.
Turn the tap down then I would suggest..
@@Tracertme : That will not work in most newer showers these days unless you want a nice ice cold shower.
@@ssrrocks22 isn't there a separate tap/lever thing for temperature and one for water flow? Seems odd, no?
@dennisblogg : Most all newer shower valves don't have single hot or cold water advertisements on them. If you saw the video here, you will notice only one handle. The reason for this is due to the newer type of shower valves, unlike a bathtub shower valves are strictly one handle. You can turn it on and adjust the temperature of your water. If you try to turn down the water pressure from a newer shower valve, you will simply get cold water until it turns completely off. In other words, you will be standing in very cold water, and with winter on it's way you might not enjoy an ice-cold shower...
I think your shower might have some abnormal stuff going on. I don't believe either a pressure balance mixing valve or thermostatic mixing valve should do this. Unless maybe you have an old-style simple mixing valve and your water heater just can't supply the GPM because of upstream restrictions? @@ssrrocks22
I can imagine people already getting annoyed with the shower handle Off position being on the left when on the back plate its labelled "off" on the right side.
Just me,but I would have liked a demonstration of that shower head before finishing the video. 😊
Sorry!
If your shower pressure is extremely high after removing any restrictor, then you might have overall too high water pressure in your house and need a pressure regulator valve. Too high pressure in your pipes can cause them to fail.
Hi, what happens to the pipes if the pressure is too high? When you say "fail" does that mean the pipes will burst and leak? Thank you
@@cc_bloomThe pipes won't burst, but seals, valves, connections, and hoses could fail prematurely, and those will leak or not operate correctly.
@@cc_bloom Joints may begin to leak and some appliances connected directly to water might have issues. Typically 50 psi is normal, and a maximum of ~80 is fine as well, but continuous pressure >100 psi can become problematic.
This is nonsense.If your pipes are failing, then they are corroded to failure, and regardless of any restrictions, their life is at an end. Water delivery pressure in North America is nominally 60 psig (4 bar), perhaps slightly less if your house is at the end of a mains loop or at the top of a hill. Residential pipe/tubing is tested to 300 psi, and the burst strength is about double that, or 10x mains pressure. BTW the "pressure" of the water when it exits the faucet is atmospheric pressure. What you perceive as pressure is flow and/or velocity. The higher the flow through an orifice (i.e. the nozzles at the shower outlet) the higher the velocity will be. As correctly pointed out in the video, the shower restrictions that are factory-installed are designed to reduce flow, which will reduce velocity and the feeling of how hard the water is hitting your skin. Water conservation initiatives are designed to reduce water consumption, which only works if you don't take longer showers to compensate for the fact that the lower velocity is less efficient at ringing you off.
@@gavinmclaren9416 the pressure of the water coming out of a pipe is not “atmospheric pressure”. Atmospheric pressure is the pressure of the air around you. It’s typically around 15psi.
If a water pipe has an internal pressure of over 100psi, it will cause strain in your joints. Just like too much air pressure can balloon a container if there’s too much of it. Water is incompressible, therefore the more you try to force it to be contained, the more damage it can cause. There’s a reason why pressure regulation valves exist, you know?! lol
In addition to the points that @nathanfisher1512 and @ssrrocks22 make in regards to removing the restrictor, if you have a tankless water ehater system, you also need to take into consideration the GPM capability of your water heater. If the flow is higher than the tankless can properly adjust the temperature rise for, you'll be taking a lukewarm high pressure shower
I like the video. thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I need someone to make a compilation out of all the “that’s what she said” phrases in this video
"okay baby, grab a hold of that nut" might be the best one LOL
Jeff, the only thing I would have done differently is on the threads of the flange and screws would be some silicon grease on them before screwing in place. Just one little thing for later years...
I do believe you should use Mike Holmes to inspect the work!!🧐
What is better Delta, Kholer or Allen and Roth?
Bought a Delta in the last house. Lifetime supply of aerator. Just call and ask for the replacement aerator. I did register my product of course. 😅
Kohler is the best. They have the most beautiful quality products , and their customer service is amazing!.
Remember all of them require a receipt for any warranty stuff now. So many are lifetime warranty if you keep track of the receipt.
either your cartridge is install upside down or your valve body is flipped.
Also your valve body needs to be secured to some backing.
I would start flipping the cartridge first. there a hot side labelled since a 1000 years
🥶🖤🔔👍🏻❤️.. always a pleasure to listen and learn.
Thank you! Cheers!
What about the Climate Apocalypse. The California Governor, Newsom, called for water restriction, year round, drought or no drought. Don’t let him be president, you’ll have no water pressure. Yay Jeff. I love your voice. Your wife is a lucky woman. Great work!
We definitely should save water where possible. If you take 1 hour showers maybe leave the flow restrictors in. And they make great 1 gallon per flush toilets now. Just read the reviews so you don’t get a bad model.
But really watering plants is where the most water can be saved
I have seen the lunacy of newslum and his cadres. I actually picked out a shower system with body sprays, etc. It can not be legally sold in CA or NY. It uses too much water. Both states have plenty of resources if they allocate them correctly. This push for reducing the ability to clean bodies or flush toilets is unhealthy.
aw i was waiting for him to turn on the water but he never did 8/
hopefully we can see it in action in the next video
Great info! just took mine out. What a difference
Glad it helped!
Great video! Where did you get the shower surround?
I made it. Cheers!
That handle should be installed 180 degrees from where he put it. You turn the handle counterclockwise to turn on, from cold to hot.
@2:34 Are you flinging the shards of metal from stripping your last screw??? 😂j/k had to notice tho
I keep seeing people sya "oh the restictor limits water so much, it only drips" then they show how to remove the restrictor, and show the water at full pressure. I have yet to find a video showing this "dripping" situation. Show me what those restricted flow head look like!
I'm from Europe and when I visited the U.S.A., i was shocked by the unconvenient shower in my hotel. A fixed shower head at the top and the faucet had only one degree of freedom - first you increase the water flow of cold water up to the maximum and then it starts adding hot water. I thought - this must be some old system, certainly nobody would install this nowadays. And as I see, it is still common and people do this voluntarily to their own homes :)
You cannot have a warm (mixed) water of a lower than maximum flow? Well, for a fixed "rain" shower, this might not be the biggest problem. But I really cannot imagine using the fixed shower head. What if you want to wash just dirty feet? Or your whole body, but don't wet your hair (especiall women)? How to you give special attention to your private parts? How to you clean the shower itself?
Of course - everybody can use what (s)he wants, my comment is not meant to criticize! I'm just expressing my surprise. If I bought a house with such a shower (well, it would be hard, it is hardly existing in my country), I would give it the top priority to replace it :)
7:55. Get your grout guys back out there and have them do the job correctly.
Hello Jeff, love your video's! I am a big fan! Greetings from The Netherlands.
Glad you like them! Cheers!
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That valve body should not be sticking out so much.
I noticed the same thing. The valve body was just left floating. I should have been secured with the tile trim plate to set the proper depth. It would drive me crazy seeing that much sticking out like that.
Over time will the backing foam degrade and is it not best to add clear silicone around the back plate?
Todays bathroom foam is more or less indestructible. The bathroom will need renovating by the time the foam is degraded to the point of needing replacing.
Why is that valve body flopping around? Isn't it supposed to be secured with screws inside the wall? And might be crooked because it's flopping around and you pull it with screws unevenly to the plate.
I had the same question
Yeah that's what I did when I installed my shower, it seems he is putting undue stress on the pipes behind the wall. Also it looks really bad sticking out that far.
BTW, instructions normally show the valid range of depth of the valve body inside the wall, so it's sticking out the right amount. I don't think, though, that a little bend will hurt the pipes. It's just that the plate and the body aren't supposed to form a "vise" holding them to the tiled board :-) The body is to be secured in the wall, and the plate pulled against the tile @@rockzors
They are also lifetime replacement if your willing to wait. I’ve replaced by delta valves for free multiple times
For new products they require you to keep track of the receipt to use the lifetime warranty. So figure out a way of keeping track of them.
No one tell Al Gore.
Higher water pressure implies more restriction actually. What you mean is better flow, which actually reduces overall pressure
you didn't remove the restrictor, it was blue
"Oh yeah that's the hole right there".
I couldn't help myself 😂
Not to mention "Okay baby, grab ahold of that nut" 😁
Can't even let the children watch this channel anymore...
The diameter of your drain pipe is 2x the diameter of your inlet. If you're ankle deep in water, it must mean your drain is clogged.
What do you think about Shower Envy shower heads? Or anything like that
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Why is the shower head installed so low?
Ha, ha I thought that too. He was standing on the tub. At the very end he jumps down and you can see it's normal height.
People were shorter 50 years ago.
Huh, I thought it was supposed to be some kind of filter or something. We have dirty well water and I find little sticks in that thing from time to time. 😂
It does indeed collect crud.. which incidentally will make the water pressure even worse. 😅
@@dennisblogg Yeah that's the only reason I knew it was there. Water pressure just died one day and I took the shower head off and there's a whole damn stick in there 😂
It's happened another 3-4 times since then. Guess I'll just take it out, then.
It also protect those same sticks from getting stuck further into the head ,where you can’t take them out. Much easier to clean this restictor then replace the head.
You should install a sediment filter to your incoming water line from the well. Most well installations have them to prevent sand and other things from being pushed through the house's lines. It can also save your appliances that use water: hot water tank, washer, dishwasher, refrigerator...
@@denisegaylord382 Thanks for the tip!
The real issue here is the ridiculous pancake size shower head.. Why? Because it’s the latest trend. I’m sure everyone takes their visitors to the shower to show them their shower head🙄. You can use water responsibly and still have water pressure. Simply go back to the regular water restriction shower heads. They are often provided free by your local utility company.
It’s not even big what are u talking about 🙄
How to kill mold on subfloor ?
that's a strainer so the shower outlets don't get clogged
Perfect, thank you.from my understanding, you have a monthly fee that you charge that show your customers how to do their own home renovations does any of those videos include how to remove and replace rotten sagging joist?
And if you join you can send pictures to them and they will give input
Replaced mine a while ago. These things are a pain.
Removes components that active save fresh water wastage for the luxury.
Silicone is the bondo of the home repair world
Leave the restrictor in place if you have teenagers that spend 1/2 hour or more in the shower. This is the solution to have any HOT water left. Believe me...
If you're concerned about water conservation, why don't you just not turn your handle on max setting with the aerator removed.
New shower. No control over pressure at all. Just temperature 😢
Turn handle - full throttle!😂
What the heck? It's either a cheap $10 system or some 'modern' $400 one I'm guessing lol. What is the model?
Isn't it rediculus that unelected beaurocrats can just make it law for companies to put those crap restrictors in.
Spends 3 weeks and 5 videos emphasizing water proofing. But complains over a bead of silicone for said waterproofing around a decorative plate.
Ok so this has zero effect on water pressure , the pressure remains the same no matter , what your doing is trying to increase the flow rate , but this would only be achieved by removing g the actual restrictor ( which is the blue part ) what you removed is the filter 🤦🏽
Kinda surprised you whined about a drip from the shower head. I call that a leak
Can you let us know how much the fine is for illegally removing the showerhead restrictor? US has a 2.5 GPM max and California has 2.0 GPM. Faucets are not required to have restrictors. I don't know how they can enforce this except when someone admits to it on UA-cam.
The restrictor is necessary if you have teenagers in the house. Especially if they are girls and don't know jack about plumbing and restrictors 🙂 In some jirisdictions, you can get arrested for teaching people to remove the restrictor.
Especially if they are boys and don't know jack about plumbing and restrictors.
Not sure gender has anything to do with knowledge. Someone had to teach it to them. It’s not like genders are born with certain knowledge. My sister was taught about plumbing before she was 10.
The sex has to do (maybe "gender" doesn't). Because they see me screwing around with screws and the mother doing other things, they copy her and aren't interested in screws. (There are personalities that you can just take and teach whatever you want, but mine are not like that :-) @@ecospider5
Whenever he uses an impact on screws like this I cringe.
Show your teenage daughter how to empty the 50 gal water heater in 10 minutes or less with this one easy trick...
It's a government mandated flow restrictor. Hope this video doesn't get you in trouble.
Looks more like a strainer for larger sediment before it can clog the spray nozzles.
It mandates manufacturers incorporate them. It doesn't prohibit consumers from removing them.
You're another one of the scared, huddled masses that believe the government knows better and will take care of you.
To hell with the government!!!!
Especially in Canada. He'll end up in the gulag.
Water pressure restrict it is to stop waste!!
WOW, that is a hell of a lot of Teflon tape. Two full wraps is plenty for all but the heaviest installs. Doing 5 full wraps is just begging for trouble. Please folks, do not do 5 wraps, you will regret it.
I like a lot of Jeff's videos, but this is not the profession result he stresses in those videos. No one would hire a plumber and accept a handle that is installed backwards.
Telling people to remove the aerator when most places are in drought is very irresponsible. I work in water conservation for a major city’s water utility and we need everyone of our customers reducing their water consumption. Not increasing it.
Found him. Knew the water police would show up!
And low water flow makes everyone take longer shower to rinse off. Therefore, using just as much water
I just finished a 7 day cruise. No water to be seen anywhere. Good thing we have people working on this problem!
@@deserteagle10😂
@@guitar1950Argree! And washing your hair? Getting the soap out under a sprinkler is a ridiculous idea.
be carefull if your boiler makes your hot water with a coil. the water may flow through it to fast to heat up especially if it old