DMX Tile Underlayment is now available on Homedepot.com (linked at the top of the video description). Coming to homedepot.ca and Rona.ca soon. Hope you found this video helpful. Leave a comment if you have any questions, I’m happy to help. Cheers!
Freakin love your videos! They are packed with so much detail and you mention everything so that even beginners know exactly what to do and why. Thank you so much for your content!
Even though its sponsored I do really appreciate you explaining the concept that sounds sane. Takes time but illustrates why you like the product. I know thats why you do it. I also just appreciate the effort. If its cheaper and directly from the manufacturer it probably is better. 30 percent is a common mark up for middlemen.
Your style of comparative demonstrations is fantastic. I teach for a living, and showing what mistakes look like goes so much farther than just showing the right way to do something.
Perfect. I am installing two tubs / shower in a new construction this month. Thank you for putting in the labor/work in testing/installing the membranes. Kudos.
I feel like many beginners and homeowners struggle with layout… maybe a quick explanation of how to make a layout that will look good and logical with a full tile at the entrance to the room/bathroom and no slivers anywhere. Cheers Jeff!
The DMX membrane needs some color to the backing. With the other membranes you can see when you don't have good coverage because you have a bright orange or yellow against the grey thin set. With the DMX you have a grey background against the grey thin set. Much harder to see ( at least on camera ) if there is a good coverage. I'm just a fly on the wall. I don't do tile so take the feedback for what its worth!
Omg tint your Thursday thinset! That's a joke. Look it's a sponsored video.... And it's normal for anyone to push something like that..... I don't care what size and shape the uncoupling part is... They all do what they are supposed to do and make the tile less susceptible to cracking and cracked grout joints..... Buy whatever you're comfortable with and cost effective..... That's it
You really can't see the difference in coverage like that. It's still pretty difficult to determine by looking at the top of the schluter membrane. You still have to peel it up to see the coverage. It would be pretty cool to just look at the color change though.
Jeff i put cement board down and was gonna put floor leveler to make it level then tile..but now i guess i need uncoupling membrane as well to finish the install properly...i never realized so many things in the ever evolving and changing world of information for the diy person person to understand and learn..thank you for helping us diyers try to get it right the first go..God Bless 🙌 You Jeff Thxz Brother...
if you have questions about your assembly then JOIN our membership program. you can send me photos on discord and I would be happy to look over your strategy and answer questions. Cheers!
Thanks for this timely comparison. Will be tiling a bathroom soon, and am always happy to find something that is not only better and easier to install, but also less expensive. You don't find that often!
Hello guy. I am looking into design a membrane. Both sides will have a glue that is designed to be stronger than the mortar. Peel off and stick on so it's easy and no mess and then use a heat gun to lock the glue in. Those glues are expandable so if you have grove or holes like tiles, it will expand into it so you won't have any hollow spots but gentle enough that won't push the material out. Also when it dries. Glue will be rock hard like a mortar so when you remove it in future to renovate there won't be any sticking stuff. And when you remove it. Just use heat gun and heat it very hot and then just with little bit of pry, it will come out easy without damage the tile. Design to made: Easier to apply. Less mess. Quicker. Stronger. Let me know if this will be a good sale. Most important part is it will be lifetime warranty.
Looks like a nice option of the many out there. I am not fully convinced it is much better than Ditra if at all, but I would use it if availability is good and price is lower. I'd like to see you do similar test comparison of Tile Redi shower pans nad wall boards, and Laticrete Hydroban foam wall boards. Maybe my next bathroom project will be with DMX on floor, TileRedi shower pan and Hydroban shower walls.
And only 9 Months ago DIY'ers put down a ton of Schluter Membrane (me included) thanks to Jeffs video titled: Why You Should use Schluter Ditra on Your Tile Job" with it's opening comment "Everything I know and love about the Schluter Membrane
This is easily the most dangerous content on UA-cam. It fully makes me believe I could DIY a whole bathroom remodel myself! Considering becoming a member for questions I might have along the way.
the floating floor underlayment from DMX is a loose lay product that provides a barrier to cold floors and air flow under your floor. video coming soon. Cheers!
Very helpful, thank you. I would like to see a similar video using Ditra Heat membrane (including and excluding the "felt" pad*), in comparison with competing products. (* apparently the felt pad is required for condo installation to limit sound transfer).
you were scrapping the floor on the first two membranes while carefully explain on the dmx not to press but hover over. also the DMX is white, if anything it’ll make it harder to be sure you filled and covered everything
Are there any radiant heating coils that are compatible with DMX like with Schluter? Love the DMX engineering, would love to also have the floors heated.
They should probably make it with a better contrasting color like the other two though. The white doesn’t provide quite the visibility. I like the design/concept, but a darker color would be better, I think.
I built a laundry room in my garage that has a concrete slab. There were many hairline cracks in it so I went with using red guard. it was cheap and easy to apply. It's only been less than a year, but so far no issues. If you're going to be doing it in an interior room, these sorts of membranes might be better in the long run. We had our patio installed professionally with tile and they used Ditra. That one has been outside for 2 years and it's still perfect.
I would love to see how you install heated floor with this. I think I read one of your comments that says its coming soon. Just subbed and looking forward to it. This came at just the right time; I'm about to begin bathroom remodel
i want to see a long term comparison (on an existing cracked floor) between Mapei Mapelastic roll-on crack isolation membrane and these Schluter clones. Mapelastic is $0.50/sqft. DMX is $1.57/sqft.
Sorry, but schluter with the double-sided tape version is a game changer...... No needs to thinset it down. Goes on super easy quick and you start tiling right away
I'd be interested to find out how Ardex's glue would work with this stuff. Like you I don't like how plywood absorbs moisture and possibly compromise the bond. I've used the glue with Ditra and liked the results. Just seems to make more sense to me.
Good day Jeff I always watch and learn from your program but can you do a demonstration on concrete or i should ask can it be used on concrete or do i need a sub flooring first before using this product
Weatherman sells umbrellas. But seriously, direct bond is amazing still. If you're not waterproofing under the tile, all these products are unnecessary upsells to move money from your wallet to theirs.
Ho Johnny. Correct direct bond works well in ideal conditions. however the DMX membrane provides protection in the event of power failures in the winter , a condition that will cause a direct bond to fail. in addition it can be applied directly to the single layer of substrate so no need to buy plywood glue and screw. DMX is actually less expensive and a much faster install and provides a superior installation with more benefits. Schluter membrane was always more expensive than direct bond but now the membrane even has a cost and time advantage with this new tech. Worth considering. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I will consider it when renovating my bathroom next year. Is it compatible with in floor heating? One last question, when are you available to come help with my bathroom reno ;)
Jeff I am using a lateral drain for a shower. I am used to making my own mud pack shower pans. I am trying to use a schluter pan but I cannot find a pan that has the lateral drain on one end. I know that I watched one of your videos where you had the drain on one end. I am about to make a mud pack if I can’t find a solution. I need your advise. Thanks
Monolithic means one single pour, no seems. Or with stone one single piece. Rebar doesn’t change that. Just for clarification, said with respect, but just so people know. I get the point you are trying to make.
direct bond failing in extreme temperatures? you mean like the tile next to my drafty front door that 4 years after buying the house I can now lift up entire tiles off the subfloor? Yep, can confirm :)
@@BigHeadClan I'm pretty sure that you can place ad breaks into your videos or let UA-cam do it automatically. Regardless, I hate commercials so I had to complain either way. :)
Tried to contact this company for DMX membrane solutions multiple times and no answer. Used the contact form as well and its malfunctioning. Can’t find this product at any major retailers, no place on their website where it says where to buy. -- unfortunate and I am in Canada
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! In this DMX sponsored video im going to tell you why DMX is better? Jeff you had an objective reliable opinion on products for so long. A shame to see that end.
Yes I am Biased. This product is Awesome! In Fact the company is awesome and makes great products. Steve the Engineer is designing his own plastic products instead of doing knockoff clones. Cheers!
My main question is not on the bias, but rather if the sponsor reviews the video or if the reviewer has contractual obligations from the sponsor to only upload a video in a positive light.
It's completely unfair. You used too much thinset with the DMX, making it impossible for anyone except the pros to notice the trick. The difference is obvious based on the amount you applied and the force used compared to the others. To me, this isn’t an equal comparison. Plus, the harder it goes in, the harder it will be to remove, making it even stronger. It just doesn’t seem fair-at least not to me.
Even after u edit the video u still cheated a little. I know they will pay you for the video and I’m all for it butttt. Don’t b.s people man contractors are not stupid and we arnt the average home owner who’s trying to pick. U could just have said that it’s a similar product that is much cheaper and it gives you free tape. Simple and not that long ago you were swearing my schluters product
No they provided him product to review and give their feedback on. Just because something is sponsored doesn’t mean that it’s a bad product or the person is somehow a sell out for reviewing the product. It’s not like this is an Ad read for the company.
DMX Tile Underlayment is now available on Homedepot.com (linked at the top of the video description). Coming to homedepot.ca and Rona.ca soon. Hope you found this video helpful. Leave a comment if you have any questions, I’m happy to help. Cheers!
Freakin love your videos! They are packed with so much detail and you mention everything so that even beginners know exactly what to do and why. Thank you so much for your content!
Even though its sponsored I do really appreciate you explaining the concept that sounds sane. Takes time but illustrates why you like the product. I know thats why you do it. I also just appreciate the effort. If its cheaper and directly from the manufacturer it probably is better. 30 percent is a common mark up for middlemen.
Your style of comparative demonstrations is fantastic. I teach for a living, and showing what mistakes look like goes so much farther than just showing the right way to do something.
Perfect. I am installing two tubs / shower in a new construction this month. Thank you for putting in the labor/work in testing/installing the membranes. Kudos.
Glad to help
I’m installing this product in my forever home and will film a full tutorial so let me know what you want to see
I feel like many beginners and homeowners struggle with layout… maybe a quick explanation of how to make a layout that will look good and logical with a full tile at the entrance to the room/bathroom and no slivers anywhere. Cheers Jeff!
The DMX membrane needs some color to the backing. With the other membranes you can see when you don't have good coverage because you have a bright orange or yellow against the grey thin set. With the DMX you have a grey background against the grey thin set. Much harder to see ( at least on camera ) if there is a good coverage. I'm just a fly on the wall. I don't do tile so take the feedback for what its worth!
You can tint your thin set if its an issue
Omg tint your Thursday thinset! That's a joke. Look it's a sponsored video.... And it's normal for anyone to push something like that..... I don't care what size and shape the uncoupling part is... They all do what they are supposed to do and make the tile less susceptible to cracking and cracked grout joints..... Buy whatever you're comfortable with and cost effective..... That's it
You really can't see the difference in coverage like that. It's still pretty difficult to determine by looking at the top of the schluter membrane. You still have to peel it up to see the coverage. It would be pretty cool to just look at the color change though.
You are good. Always a pleasure to watch and learn.
Jeff i put cement board down and was gonna put floor leveler to make it level then tile..but now i guess i need uncoupling membrane as well to finish the install properly...i never realized so many things in the ever evolving and changing world of information for the diy person person to understand and learn..thank you for helping us diyers try to get it right the first go..God Bless 🙌 You Jeff Thxz Brother...
if you have questions about your assembly then JOIN our membership program. you can send me photos on discord and I would be happy to look over your strategy and answer questions. Cheers!
Watching you do this made my shoulders ache. Might have something to do with being raised by a dry waller. Great video
DMX??
X gon' give it to ya!
Thanks for this timely comparison. Will be tiling a bathroom soon, and am always happy to find something that is not only better and easier to install, but also less expensive. You don't find that often!
Glad it was helpful! Canadian made and sold for a fair price. Cheers!
Hello guy. I am looking into design a membrane. Both sides will have a glue that is designed to be stronger than the mortar. Peel off and stick on so it's easy and no mess and then use a heat gun to lock the glue in. Those glues are expandable so if you have grove or holes like tiles, it will expand into it so you won't have any hollow spots but gentle enough that won't push the material out. Also when it dries. Glue will be rock hard like a mortar so when you remove it in future to renovate there won't be any sticking stuff. And when you remove it. Just use heat gun and heat it very hot and then just with little bit of pry, it will come out easy without damage the tile.
Design to made:
Easier to apply.
Less mess.
Quicker.
Stronger.
Let me know if this will be a good sale.
Most important part is it will be lifetime warranty.
Looks like a great product at 35% cheaper cost. Thanks for sharing.
Looks like a nice option of the many out there. I am not fully convinced it is much better than Ditra if at all, but I would use it if availability is good and price is lower. I'd like to see you do similar test comparison of Tile Redi shower pans nad wall boards, and Laticrete Hydroban foam wall boards. Maybe my next bathroom project will be with DMX on floor, TileRedi shower pan and Hydroban shower walls.
great ideas! Cheers!
And only 9 Months ago DIY'ers put down a ton of Schluter Membrane (me included) thanks to Jeffs video titled: Why You Should use Schluter Ditra on Your Tile Job" with it's opening comment "Everything I know and love about the Schluter Membrane
DMX seems to have a superior product that work great for home renovations.
Thanks Jeff for the wonderful information & video.
Thanks a lot.
You bet!
Thank you so much for the kind words! We're thrilled to hear that you’re impressed with our products.
This is easily the most dangerous content on UA-cam. It fully makes me believe I could DIY a whole bathroom remodel myself! Considering becoming a member for questions I might have along the way.
Thats a good core workout Jeff!!
that is why they call it work. Cheers!
Good to see another option in the market. Curious what the pull away is like in the DMX. It was hard to see in the video
18:30: I was actually typing the question, haha 😂
Thank you Jeff for the very informative video again!
My pleasure! Cheers!
i love the groove for cutting the ditra
Great video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
The DMX can also be used for under VP flooring !!
DMX 1 step 2.0 is awesome as an underlayment
Does it still have to be stuck down and if so with what?
the floating floor underlayment from DMX is a loose lay product that provides a barrier to cold floors and air flow under your floor. video coming soon. Cheers!
Perfect for kitchen, laundry, mud room, etc.
Rough Rider's Anthem on repeat after this one 🙌🙏💯
Very helpful, thank you. I would like to see a similar video using Ditra Heat membrane (including and excluding the "felt" pad*), in comparison with competing products. (* apparently the felt pad is required for condo installation to limit sound transfer).
you were scrapping the floor on the first two membranes while carefully explain on the dmx not to press but hover over. also the DMX is white, if anything it’ll make it harder to be sure you filled and covered everything
6:57 didn’t know that test, really handy to know so thanks, I also heard that for tiling you want “McFlurry” Ice cream consistency
Y'all gon make me lose my mind!
Up in here up in here!
Are there any radiant heating coils that are compatible with DMX like with Schluter? Love the DMX engineering, would love to also have the floors heated.
coming soon! Cheers!
They should probably make it with a better contrasting color like the other two though. The white doesn’t provide quite the visibility. I like the design/concept, but a darker color would be better, I think.
Would you use the membrane over concrete?
definitely, prevents cracks when concrete cracks. Cheers!
I built a laundry room in my garage that has a concrete slab. There were many hairline cracks in it so I went with using red guard. it was cheap and easy to apply. It's only been less than a year, but so far no issues. If you're going to be doing it in an interior room, these sorts of membranes might be better in the long run. We had our patio installed professionally with tile and they used Ditra. That one has been outside for 2 years and it's still perfect.
It was making my knees hurt watching you crawl around on the floor without knee pads. 😬
no worries my knees have really good callous. Cheers!
I would love to see how you install heated floor with this. I think I read one of your comments that says its coming soon. Just subbed and looking forward to it. This came at just the right time; I'm about to begin bathroom remodel
This products not for heated floors they got different coupling membrane for that
I will be using the DMX heated floor product in my bathroom remodel of my forever home. Cheers!
Hi Jeff, wondering if DMX has or is planning on having a membrane for electric heated floors like Ditra Heat?
y'all gonna make me lose my mind.. up in here.. up in here
i want to see a long term comparison (on an existing cracked floor) between Mapei Mapelastic roll-on crack isolation membrane and these Schluter clones.
Mapelastic is $0.50/sqft. DMX is $1.57/sqft.
4:24 X GON GIVE IT TO YA!😂
Sorry, but schluter with the double-sided tape version is a game changer...... No needs to thinset it down. Goes on super easy quick and you start tiling right away
Hey there love your videos what’s your opinion on the mapei products
Great video and everything that you said makes complete sense. However sometimes it hard to trust a youtuber that is sponsored.
You are supposed to use a modified thin set when using the tile membrane to plywood.
Yes
What about over concrete floors, is the process any different? What do you do about existing small cracks on floor?
I'd be interested to find out how Ardex's glue would work with this stuff. Like you I don't like how plywood absorbs moisture and possibly compromise the bond. I've used the glue with Ditra and liked the results. Just seems to make more sense to me.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY Does the DMX install on concrete?
absolutely. Cheers! crack prevention!
Good day Jeff I always watch and learn from your program but can you do a demonstration on concrete or i should ask can it be used on concrete or do i need a sub flooring first before using this product
What are the benefits to using uncoupling membrane over cement board?
Schluter Peel and stick makes laying down the membrane faster.
What thin set is recommended to use with DMX? No more pricey All Set?
Can I use the same liquid waterproofing seen in your shower wall/tile video under my floor tiles?
yes!
Direct bond, 3/4 inch glued & screwed, 23 years, ZERO tile/grout cracks.....not sure why we need all of this extra material nowadays.
Weatherman sells umbrellas. But seriously, direct bond is amazing still. If you're not waterproofing under the tile, all these products are unnecessary upsells to move money from your wallet to theirs.
Ho Johnny. Correct direct bond works well in ideal conditions. however the DMX membrane provides protection in the event of power failures in the winter , a condition that will cause a direct bond to fail. in addition it can be applied directly to the single layer of substrate so no need to buy plywood glue and screw. DMX is actually less expensive and a much faster install and provides a superior installation with more benefits. Schluter membrane was always more expensive than direct bond but now the membrane even has a cost and time advantage with this new tech. Worth considering. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I will consider it when renovating my bathroom next year. Is it compatible with in floor heating? One last question, when are you available to come help with my bathroom reno ;)
Do you use unmodified for both subfloor to fleece and on top of the membrane? Or modified for subfloor to fleece and unmodified for membrane to tile?
Jeff I am using a lateral drain for a shower. I am used to making my own mud pack shower pans. I am trying to use a schluter pan but I cannot find a pan that has the lateral drain on one end. I know that I watched one of your videos where you had the drain on one end. I am about to make a mud pack if I can’t find a solution. I need your advise. Thanks
Is there a particular reason the band is installed on top of the membrane instead of underneath?
What if you have old subfloors that are tongue and groove with some gaps
Can this be used with electric underfloor heating
the in floor heat version is almost released to the market. I will be letting everyone know when it is. Cheers!
Where can I buy this ?
Any idea when it’s coming to Canada? I’m north of Toronto. Thx
Should be up on Homedepot.ca in the next week or so. Cheers
난방되는 콘크리트 바닥에도 쓸수있는 제품입니까?
Completely agree with you about hardwood and porcelain. All those other crap "luxury" floors are total garbage.
I like vinyl for a basement in older houses on floor leveller. but on a main floor it is wood and porcelain all the way!
Hiw does these products compare where ther is a crack i. A cement slab that gets a tiny bit bigger? Is one more forgiving than another?
they are all uncoupling membranes so they have the same performance when it comes to crack protection.
Hate that height different you get with plywood base for tile
I think monolithic has to do with the footer and floor poured all at once. Nothing to do with rebar
if it has no rebar it is not monolithic because it can crack into sections. Cheers!
Monolithic means one single pour, no seems. Or with stone one single piece. Rebar doesn’t change that. Just for clarification, said with respect, but just so people know. I get the point you are trying to make.
You scraped the first pass on the other mats, with the dmx you were lighter on the first pass. Gotta be equal.
Your a goat Godbless 🐐
direct bond failing in extreme temperatures? you mean like the tile next to my drafty front door that 4 years after buying the house I can now lift up entire tiles off the subfloor?
Yep, can confirm :)
exactly. in cold temps tile expands and wood contracts. that leads to delamination. Cheers!
Do you DMX on walls also? Is there any thing different when working on concrete basement floor
not for walls. but yes for basement flooring. same install.
So vapor tape from one row of membrane to the next row....?
Schluter peel and stick is faster. Tile install same day
peel and stick is not an uncoupling membrane and has not been field tested. I personally don't trust it at all.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY weird, on their website it says it is.
These are uncoupling membranes. All of them work well.
With the exception of the mdx one.. the dovetails of the detra resist upheave.
Where is this product sold in Canada?or is this another Canadian company that caters to only the neighbors down south?
Launching in Canada at Homedepot.com and Rona soon. Cheers
I would never tile osb.
The amount of ads on this video kind of sucked. Especially for a video that basically is an ad. But I appreciate the info, as always.
He doesn’t control UA-cam ads, that’s all controlled by UA-cam. I didn’t get a single one for example.
@@BigHeadClan I'm pretty sure that you can place ad breaks into your videos or let UA-cam do it automatically. Regardless, I hate commercials so I had to complain either way. :)
@ The fewer ads we have to deal with the better no doubt. lol
Tried to contact this company for DMX membrane solutions multiple times and no answer. Used the contact form as well and its malfunctioning. Can’t find this product at any major retailers, no place on their website where it says where to buy. -- unfortunate and I am in Canada
Personally I use laticrete ditra. It's same hing just different pattern
the rollout on this product is going to be any day now. will be on the shelves in Rona and online everywhere else.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYthanks Jeff, they contacted me via email and got me the details as well. Appreciate the response
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! In this DMX sponsored video im going to tell you why DMX is better? Jeff you had an objective reliable opinion on products for so long. A shame to see that end.
Need a translator for the Canadian accent. It’s “howse “ not “hoose “
Does make sense its way too much work and thinset wasted making all those extra passes. You would save on buying mud
If they are sponsoring you, then there is bias?
People have their own biases no matter what. The important part is he stated upfront that it was a sponsorship which lets you make up your own mind.
Yes I am Biased. This product is Awesome! In Fact the company is awesome and makes great products. Steve the Engineer is designing his own plastic products instead of doing knockoff clones. Cheers!
My main question is not on the bias, but rather if the sponsor reviews the video or if the reviewer has contractual obligations from the sponsor to only upload a video in a positive light.
Nice
Typical, Canadian product and I can't even buy it in Canada yet lol. I don't even see it on the American Home Depot website.
seems like the video is a couple days earlier than the product launch. Cheers!
But wait atvtj beginning it was the sse height because of your demonstration putting the pieces of board
It's completely unfair. You used too much thinset with the DMX, making it impossible for anyone except the pros to notice the trick. The difference is obvious based on the amount you applied and the force used compared to the others.
To me, this isn’t an equal comparison. Plus, the harder it goes in, the harder it will be to remove, making it even stronger. It just doesn’t seem fair-at least not to me.
I hope DMX releases a peel and stick variant as well
Scares you.. give me a break.
Wow i watched lots of your videos but this one is really so misleading 😅
I stopped watching as soon as you said you had no testing. Come on man.
You’re in the wrong industry,,butchers cut meat .
Even after u edit the video u still cheated a little. I know they will pay you for the video and I’m all for it butttt. Don’t b.s people man contractors are not stupid and we arnt the average home owner who’s trying to pick. U could just have said that it’s a similar product that is much cheaper and it gives you free tape. Simple and not that long ago you were swearing my schluters product
Yeah, but let’s be honest. You were loading the DMX pad with four times the amount of mix as well.
Keep watching the video I explain why. Cheers
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYI jumped the gun lol
I’ve been watching Jeff use DMX products for. Holy crap half a decade now
@@chriscolameco6850 DMX the rapper also highly underrated 🙌
9 years on camera 20 years in the field actually, but who's counting. Cheers!
They're paying you to say nice things. Disappointing
No they provided him product to review and give their feedback on.
Just because something is sponsored doesn’t mean that it’s a bad product or the person is somehow a sell out for reviewing the product.
It’s not like this is an Ad read for the company.
I don't think design matters, other companies cannot make the same looking ditra that's why every company got their own pattern
Laticrete ditra same thing just different pattern