I want this to be canon so bad. Imagine Penguin waddling around the underground only to find the Batmobile racing in a green color-themed racetrack lol
But even with the penguin weeks before it came out tgeee where viral markering newspapers with a cartoon highlighting the Batman’s absence, knowing Matt reeves he doesnt just put something in there for no reason
“It’s a big city….i can’t be everywhere.” Very much a reality that Batman deals with that hasn’t ever really been talked about or even mentions in movies.
Yeah but even then, penguin treats him like he's nowhere. Like they're having him sit out No man's land, and eruption from organized power vacuum, choas in the Gotham slums. They're not even doing the he's doing things off screen since shout outs.
@ let’s remember Batman is only in year 2 almost 3 he’s still considered a myth to most that haven’t seen him in the underbelly of the city. I’m sure it’ll be explained where he is at some point.
@@Deazy98at the end of the movie and the beginning of the penguin show batman was caught on tape in broad daylight by news helicopters. Cant really say he's much of a myth anymore
My initial thought was that Bruce was just recovering, He was very physically messed up by the end of the movie, He took multiple gunshots, beatings, an explosion, a Double Barrell shotgun at point blank, and an electric shock. Especially since Penguin only takes place like a week after The Batman, and before the movie, Bruce was used to dealing with basic thugs and criminals.
By that same token, Penguin had his Maserati flipped by Batman (which they never mention on the show) as well as a beating afterwards at the hands of Gordon and Batman. They both should be lying in bed somewhere.
@@bigsmilie07He also Injected himself with something and we don't know the lasting effects. So he might not have felt the pain until he got back home and took the batsuit off.
I like this idea of Bruce Wayne showing his resolve to help with the cleanup of Gotham City in the beginning of the Batman 2 before resuming his crusade as the Batman.
I can see him doing a cameo on the last episode or something. Like a long shot where we see Oz celebrating his takeover and the camera just keeps panning out till we see Batman hitting his signature pose on a skyscraper watching Oz. Meaning he’s figured it out or handled what was more important and is ready.
We actually know for a fact that Bruce Wayne is NOT helping the people of Gotham during the events of The Penguin, since Oz had to personally strongarm a politician into allowing poor people to have electricity and heat (something Batman could have done, even if Bruce didn't have the pull).
You can easily explain that was an issue in an isolated, small part of town. That doesn't prove anything, not to mention this is being attempted to be shown in somewhat real time. Can't just snap your fingers and fixed an entire area of a city. Batman's trying to fix a WHOLE city, it's easy to miss all the small details and such, which can and might lead to people not trusting the Batman bc he hasn't helped THEM, personally. Something superheroes always get tasked with, handling more than anyone should ask for.
I think at the end of episode 8 some crazy gun fight goes down and the final scene will be the bat signal turning on and oz and all the henchmen looking up in fear
1. At the beginning of the film, he already said he couldn't be everywhere. Hes probably helping those that were direcrly affected by the flood in orfer to build a connection to Gotham. Once there's significant progress or Penguin interferes with his progress, that's when he'll confront Penguin. 2. He feels like he failed Gotham. He may have beaten Riddler, but people still died and thatll weight on his conscious. Maybe this will be where he realizes he can be as much of an help as Bruce Wayne and start leaning into the playboy persona he needs to.
I've been saying that It would be cool if Batman actually does make an appearance....but we don't know it's him. With Matt Reeves finally letting us see the detective side of Batman on the big screen, this would be a great opportunity to see Batman's "Matches Malone" persona. Batman going undercover wearing disguises was some of the most compelling moments of Batman TAS. Imagine Oz's crew bring in a guy they think works for(or has information on) Sophia. They beat him up and interrogate him, then Oz has them take the guy's wallet and we see "Matches Malone" on his ID, to which Oz jokes "hey hey, fellas! Take it easy...leave em alone(Malone) huh hahahaha", *Oz puts a cigar in his mouth* "Jesus...hey, Matches....ya got a light? 😂". Then after Oz reveals some info in passing during a conversation, the lights cut out, they scramble to get them back on and see all of Oz's guys are knocked out and Matches is gone with a card left on one of his thugs *...thanks for the info*
I’m picturing the final scene: Penguin’s soaking up his win from the gang war, totally basking in it. Then-bam!-a shadowy figure steps in. Batman’s silhouette looms (no need to show Robert Pattinson), and just as it all sinks in, Penguin mutters, 'Oh...fuck!' Fade to black. Now *that* would be epic!
Oh that would be awful! A lazy mcu style "get excited for next product " post credit scene ending. Hopefully, they will do better and break out Batman for a true appearance in the finale.
I'm more shocked they didn't even bring him up when they got their mushroom delivery service running like not a single one was worried about getting caught by "The Bat" nor any of them were captured and beaten and mentioned that [insert goon name] was caught by the bat.
*Smallville:* No tights, no flights. *The Penguin:* No bats, no cats. And that's how it should be. This series is about the evolution of a villain. We'll get plenty of the Dark Knight in The Batman 2.
Personally I haven't been too concerned with trying to figure out if the lack of batman in this series affects the continuity at all. The series so far is downright amazing standing on it's own. I hope they hold off for as long as they can story wise on introducing the masked hero element and really expand on this side of Gotham.
@@jsuisdetropNot really, crime isn’t going to change without Bruce working on himself and improving structure of life. Also it’s only been at least 3 months, nothing big has been going on this last episode.
@Tre.Anthony2025-g4z that doesn't work either since making him sit out a Gotham in chaos also seems bizarre. They really did shoot themselves in the foot with The Batman's second climax. Can't say he's helping elsewhere since that would be public and brought up characters. The mob war isn't even quiet enough to go under his radar.
Or, maybe, now hear me out here, maybe there's a different reason Batman only ever appears as Bruce Wayne and never doing anything Batmanish and never ever ever never in costume in any live action show; not a Titans nor a Gotham nor a Pennyworth nor any Arrowverse nor even in Penguin all for the same single reason. Maybe it's because Warner hasn't had the rights to a TV Batman since the 1966 Batman show? Crazy I know, but imo being able to make all the Batman movies and animated shows Warner cares to greenlight but by hook or by crook just not being able to secure back the ding dang live action TV rights for a Batman show might be why they don't just put out a straight up Batman show and instead make all these shows all about Batman characters but without having any Batman in any of them. Just a thought.
@@RndmAnvgr777 You're right, they sure did. I dunno if they just sucked it up and paid a royalty to use their own IP or what have you. I loved Gotham, particularly that palindrome perfection Zsasz, I don't know how I forgot they blessed us with The Bat in the finale. Thanks for pointing that out my dude. "Alfred, switch on the Bat Computer for some rabbit hole divin', the game is afoot."
So an entire crime family gets taken out, right after Sofia gets out of jail, a new drug comes out in the city and a mob war breaks out and most recently a big explosion happens while one mob family leader escapes prison yet he doesn’t even do anything? Makes no sense.
Batman doesn´t have split personality, he is not going through a "more Bruce phase". Batman is a one man operation and the series takes place during a few months, so he could just be hitting muggers and rapist every night. Crime has gone up 40% according to the news, so the city is a busy place.
Hes not saying he has a split personality. Just that bruce used to think only being batman and beating up criminals was good for the city, but now realizes actually helping people with his wealth can be good too
I hope they explain his missing in the sequel cause although i love the penguin series, it almost doesn't feel like a story contained within batman universe. He should be on his toes at every big crime and murder. Oh alberto falcone was murdered? There he is looking for clues. Oh the entire freakin falcone family gets gassed to death? Batman should be showing up looking for clues. Oh a new drug called "bliss" is popular? Lets investigate it. Its just not in his character to ignore these sort of things. And now even if they do explain his missing, the show is written as if batman never existed. I recall just one dialogue between vic and oz, thats all. No bat signal? No newspaper? No dialogues between mobs and low level thugs? No nothing. Its super weird.
Would be wild if near the end of the last episode, as penguin celebrates his heirarchy of crime lord of gotham, Batman swoops in and takes everyone down and apprehends penguin.
For those wondering the real reason why the Batman is not in the Penguin show it’s simply due to licensing. Warner does not own the LIVE ACTION tv rights to Batman. They do own the animated rights but they specifically do not own the Live action rights. Those rights were sold off to ABC years ago post 60’s Batman then ABC was bought by you guessed it but Disney, who apply to renew the license every single time it might expire just to spite the competition. The very few times we’ve seen a Live action tv Batman was the end of Gotham for 1 shot (negotiations took place for that to happen) and a thrown away suit (just the suit) in a flash forward scene of a potential future in some tv show like Flash or Smallville. This is the reason why every Batman Live action appearance has been Bruce Wayne and not Bruce in the costume. They are allowed Bruce Wayne but not allowed to show Batman. They are allowed to reference Batman sometimes needing to ask permission from ABC like with the “Fuck Batman” line from Robin in Titans. Warner has the live action tv rights to every other single Batman character but Batman which is the reason why Gotham, Pennyworth, Titans and the Penguin exist since Warner can use every single other character but Batman.
Nah Matt Reeves and even the Penguin showrunner are incredibly embarrassed of the bigger Batman stuff and expressed how it will not be used in this universe. They're like Todd Phillips where they want to write their more grounded original stories and simply wear the Batman property skin to get people to watch while also expressing frustration that Batman fans tune in to see Batman stuff. It's a real oxymoron.
you know i think its more possible that bruce is just recovering from the injuries he suffered from the final battle of the batman since its already said matt reeves want this to be GROUNDED REALISTIC UNIVERSE so its highly possible that this batman has no INSANE PLOT ARMOR and bruce is just recovering from the injuries he suffered from the final battle of the batman
Man I agree with your statement. Mat Reeves writing of his Universe does tell the realistic values of physical and psychological well being of each characters, you could tell it with the latest episode of The Penguin (EP7) that the two BOSS fought their bums to tiredness and the old boss happen to have a health complication, indicating that this tackles "real life". Kinda like when a head is strucked or banged in every action sequence in the scene results to an accurate physiological effect which is concussion. The way I understood Batman through the years is that he is the pinnacle of Man or human Peak in both Physical and Mental attributes, man's considered the Worlds Greatest Detective a genius level freak and can handle Superman with his superhuman abilities. However, I am looking forward to Mr. Reeves unique portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne.
We need a last episode twist, where it leads to a dramatic mob showdown between Sofia and penguin, just for the Batman to swoop in and dismantle the operation. It would lead perfectly to the next movie, with both Sofia and penguin gunning for Batman for revenge
If I'm being honest Batman isn't the only one who should appear in penguin finale. It should be Catwoman the half sister of Sophia. I won't lie her family was crap. What they did to her wasn't forgivable, but her father did to her mother. there isn't it's not too late. for her
I disagree, I think she doesn't need to be there. I don't think it adds any value to the story they are trying to tell with Sophia, and I feel like Catwoman's story arc in the Batman was all we needed for her character at least for a little while.
Batman is missing from Gotham because Bruce Wayne is too busy trying to save his dying city. Right now, Gotham needs Bruce more than it needs Batman. And if that leaves Batman unable to respond to the new turmoil breaking out within the Falcone crime family, then that’s a problem he’ll just have to deal with in The Batman 2
I’d like to think right after the credits rolled Bruce says to himself “what am I doing?” then turned that bike right around and headed for Blüdhaven or wherever Salina was going to “recover” for a bit during this show.
I HOPE in the season finale things will get so insane we will at least see the Bat Signal right at the END. If you want a cliffhanger for hype, that is the top tier way to do it.
...He's probably pumping all the water out of the current bat cave/lair which seems to be located somewhere under gotham?... or perhaps relocating his digs to the old wayne manor...
The opening shot of penguin is literally him standing in the same spot he was in at the end of the Batman movie tho… they literally talk about carmines death that happened in the Batman movie… they literally show the bombs that riddler planted at the end of the Batman movie going off…
He could be waiting to strike, he knows theres a power vacuum and is waiting to see who will go for it knowing whoever will are going to kill anyone in the loop for the spot, preventing loose ends leaving one guy left. the penguin
Cause batman is busy doing something else , like maybe saving people and helping them after events of the batman one lol also batman even says in openings of the batman he says" i cant be every where" like what are we talking about lol
But after the east side just got blown the hell up in episode 7, wouldn't it make sense that batman would at least investigate?? I don't like this. They're gonna inadvertently make him a terrible Batman. And I really liked what Rob did with the character in The Batman.
Nah they just don’t have the rights to put him in the show. That’s all it is lol. People are just literally having hypothetical conversations about nothing lol
@Jacintojudio3478 thats was true for the CW, the rights thing . But not for this , Reeves said they discussed having batman in the show but he felt like it shifted the focus away from the penguin TOO Much so HE WASN'T WRITTEN INTO THE SCRIPT. Reeves said he wants every MOVIE and SHOW being in THE TITLE CHARACTERS POV so batman wasn't written into the show because of this
Imagine, season finale. Penguin is about to get everything he ever wanted. But then batman shows up. You dont really see me or hear him. And he just blows up his whole operation. Would be so sick. Just a force of unpredictable nature that comes and goes and leaves the Penguin in shambles.
Man just imagine it:when Penguin and Sofia are in a warehouse full of armed goons about to kill each-other and then the theme starts and you see the Batmobile smashing in and the Bat jumping out.
I get that it’s fun to speculate and find video/discourse content, but I’ve also legitimately never felt like this was the massive concern the internet had made it out to be. The movie ends with a New York sized city being more or less flooded. Major natural disaster. And the series is set a mere short time later. There are ten billion things Batman could be doing that aren’t related to the Falcone/Penguin thing. I grant, Sofia blowing up the subway station would get his attention, but that also only happened in the penultimate episode and the finale will probably also only be set over a brief period of time. In other words, lots of crazy stuff happened. Dude’s busy.
This is brillaint thought analysis. But... im still finding the lack of NO mention of him far fetched. If Oz had never personally encountered him then fair enough. Dont need a physical pop up of Bruce or Batman. The fact Oz has not mentioned that "some freak was chasing me down thw highway, keep vigilant guys." is blowing my mind.
Batman is preparing his most difficult act in his entire life. Reading scripts and training front of the mirror 7/24 because he knows beating Collin Farrel's performance might cost his life.
It would be cool if the sequel simply handwaves this all by saying he was off forming the justice league, or maybe training a robin if they go that route.
@@TheReddKnight thankyou, it's like people didn't even listen to what gunn said year ago in his presentation of DCU, where he clearly labeled reeves batman as an elseworld, it's gunn DCU where we will see all of that.
He could be looking into Lew Moxon, a gangster from the comics that was involved in his parents' death and who is using Wayne Enterprises assets to reinforce his crime family's own transportation network.
I feel like they should have ended The Batman with the impression to criminals that Batman was killed. That would make Penguins behavior make sense. He should be on edge thinking Batman may come after him any moment but he doesn’t seem to be.
I think this is the best version of the Batman universe, and I really believe they’re going to do everything right they’re not interested in making money, they wanna make a faithful adaptation of the dark Knight himself and his world
I remember them saying he was going to be in the show. As far as what he’s been doing ? Ngl I think someone else is making waves because they shined the bat signal QUICK just after the flooding but ik he getting his battle IQ up for sure
It's because batman Tv licensing is broken That's why he can't appear in live action except in films or alt media like animation or games and merch etc Maybe that's no longer the case, but as a huge nerd I'll bet my holy baterangs!
There's no need for Batman to show up let the criminals and factions fight and kill each other, then when the wave of crime is more manageable to navigate from A to B then you can start to dismantle the origination.
What of course he is. Batman would save them if he was there , but internal criminal power struggle he wouldn't touch that unless there was an active strategic reason to keep specific thugs or gangsters alive during all the conflicts. Anding on top of this is a Detective Noir Batman.
Matches Malone is out there making contacts and setting up his story. Batman doesn't care about criminals killing each other. And he is training maybe out of the country.
Batman LITERALLY SAYS HE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, but what he does LEAVES AN IMPACT plus the end of the movie he did TAKE A SHOTGUN TO THE CHEST haha atleast 6-8month ned rest
He’s still getting all 200 riddler trophies
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I want this to be canon so bad. Imagine Penguin waddling around the underground only to find the Batmobile racing in a green color-themed racetrack lol
Haha perfect comment.
He's probably researching and collecting information... in reality, Robert is too expensive
But even with the penguin weeks before it came out tgeee where viral markering newspapers with a cartoon highlighting the Batman’s absence, knowing Matt reeves he doesnt just put something in there for no reason
The Bat’s been kidnapped!!! By I don’t know who. Maybe he’s looking for Selina.
Matt Reeves didn't want the Batman in it he felt like it would take away from story sheesh they asked him many times he said no @@donovanmartin7946
Even without Robert. They could have just done a shadowy silhouette figure looking down on the criminals.
In the comics, Bruce is busy with the court of owls or hush
I feel like after this week's episode, there is no way Batman doesn't notice that something is going on
Giant ass explosions tend to draw his attention lol
He’s in Bludhaven sniffing Selina’s tail.
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There has to be an Easter egg for him in the finale. If not? The show will lose a point imo.
@@treywright1238 lmaooo facts
“It’s a big city….i can’t be everywhere.” Very much a reality that Batman deals with that hasn’t ever really been talked about or even mentions in movies.
Yeah but even then, penguin treats him like he's nowhere. Like they're having him sit out No man's land, and eruption from organized power vacuum, choas in the Gotham slums. They're not even doing the he's doing things off screen since shout outs.
@ let’s remember Batman is only in year 2 almost 3 he’s still considered a myth to most that haven’t seen him in the underbelly of the city. I’m sure it’ll be explained where he is at some point.
@@Deazy98at the end of the movie and the beginning of the penguin show batman was caught on tape in broad daylight by news helicopters. Cant really say he's much of a myth anymore
But Oz not even caring about it ? He already was beat down and chased by him
@@jcmuscle123He's just trying to grab everything he can.
Bruce is busy streaming the Vought Cinenatic Universe.
Ayoo chill😂❤
What does this mean?
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It was a The Boys joke.
@anubusx Yeah, it's a The Boys reference, but wdym he's watching it? I dont get it
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Multiverse!!!
My initial thought was that Bruce was just recovering, He was very physically messed up by the end of the movie, He took multiple gunshots, beatings, an explosion, a Double Barrell shotgun at point blank, and an electric shock. Especially since Penguin only takes place like a week after The Batman, and before the movie, Bruce was used to dealing with basic thugs and criminals.
By that same token, Penguin had his Maserati flipped by Batman (which they never mention on the show) as well as a beating afterwards at the hands of Gordon and Batman. They both should be lying in bed somewhere.
He also took venom, we don’t know the consequences of that yet, must be one hell of a comedown
Gtfoh he wss carrying people in the water right afterwards 😂😂😂
No they showed him shrugging it off and fine in the aftermath riddler flood.
@@bigsmilie07He also Injected himself with something and we don't know the lasting effects. So he might not have felt the pain until he got back home and took the batsuit off.
I like this idea of Bruce Wayne showing his resolve to help with the cleanup of Gotham City in the beginning of the Batman 2 before resuming his crusade as the Batman.
i just found out The Batman Part II isn't coming out till 2026 & i am in physical pain...
I can see him doing a cameo on the last episode or something. Like a long shot where we see Oz celebrating his takeover and the camera just keeps panning out till we see Batman hitting his signature pose on a skyscraper watching Oz. Meaning he’s figured it out or handled what was more important and is ready.
that would be epic
I believe Grace Randolph said she watched The Penguin in it's entirety with no appearance of Batman.
@@Trufe_about_Gamingmaybe shes just not allowed to say
We actually know for a fact that Bruce Wayne is NOT helping the people of Gotham during the events of The Penguin, since Oz had to personally strongarm a politician into allowing poor people to have electricity and heat (something Batman could have done, even if Bruce didn't have the pull).
Well, *Oz* certainly had the pull. You saw those needlenose pliers at work, right?
You can easily explain that was an issue in an isolated, small part of town. That doesn't prove anything, not to mention this is being attempted to be shown in somewhat real time. Can't just snap your fingers and fixed an entire area of a city. Batman's trying to fix a WHOLE city, it's easy to miss all the small details and such, which can and might lead to people not trusting the Batman bc he hasn't helped THEM, personally. Something superheroes always get tasked with, handling more than anyone should ask for.
Lazy writing
@@bigsmilie07yall not satisfied with anything 💀
How would Batman/Bruce know about that? Crown heights was supposed to be condemned after the flooding. How would he know they were diverting power?
He's undercover as Matches Malone. Nuff said.
Many have missed out on an ig post where the gotham gazette has cartoon which hints at Batman's been missing for weeks.
Not everyone has ig lol
I think at the end of episode 8 some crazy gun fight goes down and the final scene will be the bat signal turning on and oz and all the henchmen looking up in fear
I find damn funny how no one mentions the bat guy beating everyone including the penguin
Really loving the penguin at the minute, we need more Matt reeves universe Batman after part 2 comes out!
Where is the batman? HE'S AT HOME, WWWWWWWASHIN' HIS TIGHTS!!!!!! HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
He's in his bedroom listening to My Chemical Romance and trying out new eulye liner from Hot Topic
Emo Batman is best Batman. Just listening to The Smiths in the dark....
1. At the beginning of the film, he already said he couldn't be everywhere. Hes probably helping those that were direcrly affected by the flood in orfer to build a connection to Gotham. Once there's significant progress or Penguin interferes with his progress, that's when he'll confront Penguin.
2. He feels like he failed Gotham. He may have beaten Riddler, but people still died and thatll weight on his conscious. Maybe this will be where he realizes he can be as much of an help as Bruce Wayne and start leaning into the playboy persona he needs to.
I've been saying that It would be cool if Batman actually does make an appearance....but we don't know it's him. With Matt Reeves finally letting us see the detective side of Batman on the big screen, this would be a great opportunity to see Batman's "Matches Malone" persona. Batman going undercover wearing disguises was some of the most compelling moments of Batman TAS. Imagine Oz's crew bring in a guy they think works for(or has information on) Sophia. They beat him up and interrogate him, then Oz has them take the guy's wallet and we see "Matches Malone" on his ID, to which Oz jokes "hey hey, fellas! Take it easy...leave em alone(Malone) huh hahahaha", *Oz puts a cigar in his mouth* "Jesus...hey, Matches....ya got a light? 😂". Then after Oz reveals some info in passing during a conversation, the lights cut out, they scramble to get them back on and see all of Oz's guys are knocked out and Matches is gone with a card left on one of his thugs
*...thanks for the info*
That would break the internet 😂💯
It's not just Batman's absence that's frustrating. It's also the fact that the show doesn't even acknowledge his existence. It's bizarre.
Maybe it’s because most of the series takes place during the day and the bat only comes out at night
Missed the chance to open the intro with Jack Nicolsons Joker saying "And where is The Batman?"
After ep7, ep8 should start with Batman investigating or monitoring what happened. Unavoidable, unless he is out of town.
Doubt they gonna cast Robert Pattinson for that
So you have no clue. Gotcha…
All of them and it’s annoying how many CIVS think they’re Hollywood or more the celebrities like Dang don’t they ever appreciate the Civilians ?
After this week’s ep I immediately asked my brother “where the fuck is Bruce?”😂
The show writers have claimed multiple times that he’s busy dealing with the flood the Riddler caused.
He’s busy with the Justice League
I’m picturing the final scene: Penguin’s soaking up his win from the gang war, totally basking in it. Then-bam!-a shadowy figure steps in. Batman’s silhouette looms (no need to show Robert Pattinson), and just as it all sinks in, Penguin mutters, 'Oh...fuck!' Fade to black. Now *that* would be epic!
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In addition we hear the Vengence theme
Oh that would be awful! A lazy mcu style "get excited for next product " post credit scene ending. Hopefully, they will do better and break out Batman for a true appearance in the finale.
@@aurahoneydew9607 we know Rob is not there so they need to do something like in the shadow if you want to see batman
The sequel had better retain that same dark atmosphere in the first movie.
I hope it has a better score. More than two notes.
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Nah, they should hire lady Gaga and have Batman sing. That would make billions!
@@BullyMaguire4everMan, I got so damn sick of that song. I never really liked it to begin with but def not after they ran it into the ground.
If Batman in the continuity has been missing long term, the penguin show would’ve atleast left a newspaper-esq headline Easter egg.
I'm more shocked they didn't even bring him up when they got their mushroom delivery service running like not a single one was worried about getting caught by "The Bat" nor any of them were captured and beaten and mentioned that [insert goon name] was caught by the bat.
I think we might see Batman show up in the finale
*Smallville:* No tights, no flights.
*The Penguin:* No bats, no cats.
And that's how it should be. This series is about the evolution of a villain. We'll get plenty of the Dark Knight in The Batman 2.
Doesn't work the same if they're doing high profile crimes and aren't attracting the bat after knowing he's in this world
Memo to self: Learn the difference between "night" and "knight".
Personally I haven't been too concerned with trying to figure out if the lack of batman in this series affects the continuity at all. The series so far is downright amazing standing on it's own. I hope they hold off for as long as they can story wise on introducing the masked hero element and really expand on this side of Gotham.
Batman not appearing when a section of gotham getting bombed is just bizarre atp.
@@jsuisdetropNot really, crime isn’t going to change without Bruce working on himself and improving structure of life. Also it’s only been at least 3 months, nothing big has been going on this last episode.
@Tre.Anthony2025-g4z that doesn't work either since making him sit out a Gotham in chaos also seems bizarre. They really did shoot themselves in the foot with The Batman's second climax. Can't say he's helping elsewhere since that would be public and brought up characters. The mob war isn't even quiet enough to go under his radar.
Or, maybe, now hear me out here, maybe there's a different reason Batman only ever appears as Bruce Wayne and never doing anything Batmanish and never ever ever never in costume in any live action show; not a Titans nor a Gotham nor a Pennyworth nor any Arrowverse nor even in Penguin all for the same single reason. Maybe it's because Warner hasn't had the rights to a TV Batman since the 1966 Batman show? Crazy I know, but imo being able to make all the Batman movies and animated shows Warner cares to greenlight but by hook or by crook just not being able to secure back the ding dang live action TV rights for a Batman show might be why they don't just put out a straight up Batman show and instead make all these shows all about Batman characters but without having any Batman in any of them. Just a thought.
Wasn't he in the very last episode of Gotham though? Nothing would suprise me with WB though...
@@RndmAnvgr777 You're right, they sure did. I dunno if they just sucked it up and paid a royalty to use their own IP or what have you. I loved Gotham, particularly that palindrome perfection Zsasz, I don't know how I forgot they blessed us with The Bat in the finale. Thanks for pointing that out my dude. "Alfred, switch on the Bat Computer for some rabbit hole divin', the game is afoot."
So an entire crime family gets taken out, right after Sofia gets out of jail, a new drug comes out in the city and a mob war breaks out and most recently a big explosion happens while one mob family leader escapes prison yet he doesn’t even do anything? Makes no sense.
I dont think he needs to show up, but i do think he needs to be acknowledged, its bizarre that he has not been even mentioned
Batman doesn´t have split personality, he is not going through a "more Bruce phase". Batman is a one man operation and the series takes place during a few months, so he could just be hitting muggers and rapist every night. Crime has gone up 40% according to the news, so the city is a busy place.
Hes not saying he has a split personality. Just that bruce used to think only being batman and beating up criminals was good for the city, but now realizes actually helping people with his wealth can be good too
I hope they explain his missing in the sequel cause although i love the penguin series, it almost doesn't feel like a story contained within batman universe. He should be on his toes at every big crime and murder. Oh alberto falcone was murdered? There he is looking for clues. Oh the entire freakin falcone family gets gassed to death? Batman should be showing up looking for clues. Oh a new drug called "bliss" is popular? Lets investigate it. Its just not in his character to ignore these sort of things. And now even if they do explain his missing, the show is written as if batman never existed. I recall just one dialogue between vic and oz, thats all. No bat signal? No newspaper? No dialogues between mobs and low level thugs? No nothing. Its super weird.
Would be wild if near the end of the last episode, as penguin celebrates his heirarchy of crime lord of gotham, Batman swoops in and takes everyone down and apprehends penguin.
Would love a Riddler series done in the vein of The Blacklist
there is a riddler comic set in this universe known as riddler year one
Batman is gearing up. Gotta have those toys
For those wondering the real reason why the Batman is not in the Penguin show it’s simply due to licensing. Warner does not own the LIVE ACTION tv rights to Batman. They do own the animated rights but they specifically do not own the Live action rights.
Those rights were sold off to ABC years ago post 60’s Batman then ABC was bought by you guessed it but Disney, who apply to renew the license every single time it might expire just to spite the competition.
The very few times we’ve seen a Live action tv Batman was the end of Gotham for 1 shot (negotiations took place for that to happen) and a thrown away suit (just the suit) in a flash forward scene of a potential future in some tv show like Flash or Smallville.
This is the reason why every Batman Live action appearance has been Bruce Wayne and not Bruce in the costume. They are allowed Bruce Wayne but not allowed to show Batman.
They are allowed to reference Batman sometimes needing to ask permission from ABC like with the “Fuck Batman” line from Robin in Titans.
Warner has the live action tv rights to every other single Batman character but Batman which is the reason why Gotham, Pennyworth, Titans and the Penguin exist since Warner can use every single other character but Batman.
I didn't know he does DC on here also…
I don’t care if Batman doesn’t show for the penguin finale, but please give us Jim Gordon.
That’s my only complaint about the show, I hope he shows up in the last episode…like in any way. Still loving the show tho don’t get me wrong.
I think he's off training with the Ras al ghul and the league of shadows. Or there something bigger happening.
Nah Matt Reeves and even the Penguin showrunner are incredibly embarrassed of the bigger Batman stuff and expressed how it will not be used in this universe. They're like Todd Phillips where they want to write their more grounded original stories and simply wear the Batman property skin to get people to watch while also expressing frustration that Batman fans tune in to see Batman stuff. It's a real oxymoron.
@@aurahoneydew9607 i heard that too. However its very easy to ground the league and even ras al ghul.
I’m happy that the Batman isn’t in this show because the show is good without him.
I hope we get to see more Bruce Wayne the first one was more batman centered but I hope they also focus on his Bruce Wayne persona.
Batman is doing homework on the ops
Lol this version of the character looks more Tony Sorprano than Penguin
I'm just picturing batman working at a local soup kitchen
you know i think its more possible that bruce is just recovering from the injuries he suffered from the final battle of the batman since its already said matt reeves want this to be GROUNDED REALISTIC UNIVERSE so its highly possible that this batman has no INSANE PLOT ARMOR and bruce is just recovering from the injuries he suffered from the final battle of the batman
Man I agree with your statement. Mat Reeves writing of his Universe does tell the realistic values of physical and psychological well being of each characters, you could tell it with the latest episode of The Penguin (EP7) that the two BOSS fought their bums to tiredness and the old boss happen to have a health complication, indicating that this tackles "real life". Kinda like when a head is strucked or banged in every action sequence in the scene results to an accurate physiological effect which is concussion. The way I understood Batman through the years is that he is the pinnacle of Man or human Peak in both Physical and Mental attributes, man's considered the Worlds Greatest Detective a genius level freak and can handle Superman with his superhuman abilities. However, I am looking forward to Mr. Reeves unique portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne.
at the end of the movie he rides around bikes with catwoman looking healthy af
Nah they just don’t have the rights to put Batman in the show lol it’s not that deep
bro is on vaca clapping catwoman's cheeks. cut him some slack lol
If Batman shows up at the end of the penguin it could just be Batman not Robert Pattinson but it’s still a bit away
They didn't want to pay Robert Pattinson to make an appearance. Case solved.
I reckon the explosion in the recent episode will be the start of The Batman 2.
BROOOO THIS IS STUPENDOUS!!!!!!!
This is the perfect time & set to show Batman’s effects without showing Batman.
Batman is hanging out with his Justice League friends
We need a last episode twist, where it leads to a dramatic mob showdown between Sofia and penguin, just for the Batman to swoop in and dismantle the operation. It would lead perfectly to the next movie, with both Sofia and penguin gunning for Batman for revenge
Black Mask - actually Jeremiah Arkham - actually Dr. Julian Rush!
If I'm being honest Batman isn't the only one who should appear in penguin finale. It should be Catwoman the half sister of Sophia. I won't lie her family was crap. What they did to her wasn't forgivable, but her father did to her mother. there isn't it's not too late. for her
I disagree, I think she doesn't need to be there. I don't think it adds any value to the story they are trying to tell with Sophia, and I feel like Catwoman's story arc in the Batman was all we needed for her character at least for a little while.
“It has not broken out into a full on bloobath in a gang war yet” sofia just blew a whole neighborhood up, batman better show tf up😂
Batman is missing from Gotham because Bruce Wayne is too busy trying to save his dying city. Right now, Gotham needs Bruce more than it needs Batman. And if that leaves Batman unable to respond to the new turmoil breaking out within the Falcone crime family, then that’s a problem he’ll just have to deal with in The Batman 2
How do you know that?
@Watch the show, look at the promotional materials like the newspapers, and things creators and show runners have said.
No not even that, that would have at least gotten mentioned by characters given how public the helping would be for either of his halves.
I mean, after an entire city block explodes, it is a pretty big stretch to have him not take notice.
I still have hope that in the final episode while penguin and hangman are fighting each other we hear his footsteps coming from the shadows
She’s not the hangman
I’d like to think right after the credits rolled Bruce says to himself “what am I doing?” then turned that bike right around and headed for Blüdhaven or wherever Salina was going to “recover” for a bit during this show.
We need more of this from you. Matt Reeves is reviving super heroes and story telling
Bruce hands are tied by the Sofia like we won't accompany in her wrong doings
I HOPE in the season finale things will get so insane we will at least see the Bat Signal right at the END. If you want a cliffhanger for hype, that is the top tier way to do it.
...He's probably pumping all the water out of the current bat cave/lair which seems to be located somewhere under gotham?... or perhaps relocating his digs to the old wayne manor...
It would be nice to see him exchange his black cowl and cape for blue, to represent this shift
I think the story in "the penguin" is long before Batman and Oz met in the club.
The opening shot of penguin is literally him standing in the same spot he was in at the end of the Batman movie tho… they literally talk about carmines death that happened in the Batman movie… they literally show the bombs that riddler planted at the end of the Batman movie going off…
He could be waiting to strike, he knows theres a power vacuum and is waiting to see who will go for it knowing whoever will are going to kill anyone in the loop for the spot, preventing loose ends leaving one guy left. the penguin
The Bratman is busy protesting ,being an activist and complaining to his therapist about the problems of being wealthy
Cause batman is busy doing something else , like maybe saving people and helping them after events of the batman one lol also batman even says in openings of the batman he says" i cant be every where" like what are we talking about lol
But after the east side just got blown the hell up in episode 7, wouldn't it make sense that batman would at least investigate?? I don't like this. They're gonna inadvertently make him a terrible Batman. And I really liked what Rob did with the character in The Batman.
Nah they just don’t have the rights to put him in the show. That’s all it is lol. People are just literally having hypothetical conversations about nothing lol
@Jacintojudio3478 thats was true for the CW, the rights thing . But not for this , Reeves said they discussed having batman in the show but he felt like it shifted the focus away from the penguin TOO Much so HE WASN'T WRITTEN INTO THE SCRIPT. Reeves said he wants every MOVIE and SHOW being in THE TITLE CHARACTERS POV so batman wasn't written into the show because of this
Imagine, season finale. Penguin is about to get everything he ever wanted. But then batman shows up. You dont really see me or hear him. And he just blows up his whole operation.
Would be so sick. Just a force of unpredictable nature that comes and goes and leaves the Penguin in shambles.
Man just imagine it:when Penguin and Sofia are in a warehouse full of armed goons about to kill each-other and then the theme starts and you see the Batmobile smashing in and the Bat jumping out.
Narrating with a blocked nose.... Perfect.
I get that it’s fun to speculate and find video/discourse content, but I’ve also legitimately never felt like this was the massive concern the internet had made it out to be.
The movie ends with a New York sized city being more or less flooded. Major natural disaster. And the series is set a mere short time later. There are ten billion things Batman could be doing that aren’t related to the Falcone/Penguin thing.
I grant, Sofia blowing up the subway station would get his attention, but that also only happened in the penultimate episode and the finale will probably also only be set over a brief period of time.
In other words, lots of crazy stuff happened. Dude’s busy.
This is brillaint thought analysis. But... im still finding the lack of NO mention of him far fetched. If Oz had never personally encountered him then fair enough. Dont need a physical pop up of Bruce or Batman. The fact Oz has not mentioned that "some freak was chasing me down thw highway, keep vigilant guys." is blowing my mind.
Batman is preparing his most difficult act in his entire life. Reading scripts and training front of the mirror 7/24 because he knows beating Collin Farrel's performance might cost his life.
It would be cool if the sequel simply handwaves this all by saying he was off forming the justice league, or maybe training a robin if they go that route.
They are keeping this universe grounded we are not gonna see other Super powerd Heros
@@TheReddKnight thankyou, it's like people didn't even listen to what gunn said year ago in his presentation of DCU, where he clearly labeled reeves batman as an elseworld, it's gunn DCU where we will see all of that.
@Maab134 ppl don't listen then get mad lol like Gunn said we are gonna get the Batman we want 🤣 but ppl be hearing what they wanna hear
Most stupid idea ever
@@Gaonkkk what's stupid
Getting trained by Ra's Al Ghul.
He could be looking into Lew Moxon, a gangster from the comics that was involved in his parents' death and who is using Wayne Enterprises assets to reinforce his crime family's own transportation network.
If he's quit already I'm gonna riot. Batman never quits!
Theres batman 2 you know
I feel like they should have ended The Batman with the impression to criminals that Batman was killed.
That would make Penguins behavior make sense.
He should be on edge thinking Batman may come after him any moment but he doesn’t seem to be.
same pfp though
That would ruin the nice arc batman goes through though
I appreciate this! But i just assumed he's recovering at home from the fight of his life, i mean he had to inject himself adrenaline to survive
I think this is the best version of the Batman universe, and I really believe they’re going to do everything right they’re not interested in making money, they wanna make a faithful adaptation of the dark Knight himself and his world
If you guys recall, Batman didn't present himself to Oz until he showed up at Oz's club. So we have to wait until then.
I remember them saying he was going to be in the show. As far as what he’s been doing ? Ngl I think someone else is making waves because they shined the bat signal QUICK just after the flooding but ik he getting his battle IQ up for sure
He is currently finding Harvey Dent and Rachel.
After this episode i feel like Batman is in play and he has Victor.
It hasn't broken out yet? So a massive bomb in the middle of the city is small? What are you talking about...
i'm sure we will have a bat signal in the last episode. Maybe Vic says something like, "what happens if we run into him"?
It's because batman Tv licensing is broken
That's why he can't appear in live action except in films or alt media like animation or games and merch etc
Maybe that's no longer the case, but as a huge nerd I'll bet my holy baterangs!
(this is why titans only had Bruce Wayne and not batman )
Batman is most likely letting the Crime family wars do his job for him, by attrition .
Batman ain’t here because something’s in his way🎶
Forget The Penguin. Watch The Long Halloween.
There's no need for Batman to show up let the criminals and factions fight and kill each other, then when the wave of crime is more manageable to navigate from A to B then you can start to dismantle the origination.
That's not what Batman would do. Batman isn't the type of character to let criminals kill each other.
What of course he is. Batman would save them if he was there , but internal criminal power struggle he wouldn't touch that unless there was an active strategic reason to keep specific thugs or gangsters alive during all the conflicts. Anding on top of this is a Detective Noir Batman.
Matches Malone is out there making contacts and setting up his story.
Batman doesn't care about criminals killing each other.
And he is training maybe out of the country.
Batman LITERALLY SAYS HE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, but what he does LEAVES AN IMPACT plus the end of the movie he did TAKE A SHOTGUN TO THE CHEST haha atleast 6-8month ned rest