iPhone 3GS vs. Palm Pre
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
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Putting the iPhone 3G S against its smartphone competitor, the Palm Pre. I compare browser speed, application load time, and more.
Thanks for watching,
Jon
Great test, the more I see the Pre the more I'm liking it haha. It's hard to beat the 3G S though.
@Mitchell He was probably like 12 when he posted that comment
Great job previewing each phone without bias. I learned a lot about both phone and what sets them apart.
lol me too!! remember the pilot? lol i love palm...the treo 600 changed the game!
when 240p was "strong" quality
Yes, all of those features will work. What network/carrier are you planning to use the iPhone on?
if you want to dial numbers on the pre. do you have to use the slike out or do you have it on screne? i am getting a palm pre
Impressive test methods. I wonder, when you test for online speed, is this a Sprint vs. AT&T test of how fast each phone connects to the internet, the signal strength in your area?
The 3Gs v. 3G comparison itself is kind of known.
So if you're browsing the internet in landscape mode on the Pre do you have to rotate the phone every time you want to type? Seems like that would get pretty annoying pretty quickly.
its funny even the pre is a min behind lol
do you ever stop to think that maybe some people aren't on att? What if there on movistar? or Claro?
On the iPhone 3G S, say you are doing some research on a web site and you receive an email. If you open the email application, is the browser application closed down or is it just put to sleep, so on returning to the browser, it will be as you left it? If it's the former and you have to start all over again in the browser, that really is a shortcoming.
Got a Pre and it's beautiful. It's snappier now with the new update. I was thinking for going with the bigger sized HTC TP2 but I'll be sticking with the Pre.
Are we watching the same video? How many times did use the words "very very close" in the tests? At least two. I even remember him saying the words "there seems to be no clear cut winner" eventhough iPhone edged out the Pre in all the tests. Emphasis on "edged".
Where do you get apps for the palm pre
do they have a stote like i-tunes,if so how many
hey jon if you're going to compare screen rotation on safari vs. the pre, you should at least scroll down on safari to get rid of the address bar. the iPhone rotation animation has more graphics with the address bar and bottom bar, whereas the pre doesn't, so getting rid of the address bar in safari and rotating it makes it a little quicker.
I do carry a spare battery for my digital camera and laptop.
Smartphones nowadays with the big displays don't have the same battery live as earlier phones, therefore I think it is convenient if you are able to switch batteries. For example, if go on a trip to places with limited acces to electricity or when your batteries are running out at really inconveniet times. There were lots of times when I was really happy that I had a spare battery for my digital camera.
How does the new Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating compare with the old one? Is it possible to feel a difference?
If it is the case with most apps, such as safari, you can continue were you left off, then being able to keep multiple apps open on the pre is not a huge deal. I wonder whether this approach on the iPhone requires the developers to save/restore the state of their app, to allow the user to be able to continue?
he uses Exchange for this. the notifications are invitations to meetings etc.
How many apps does the Pre have? How's the fully capable iPod? How about the voice recognition? Or the application/song search?
I switched to an iPhone from a Pre last week, because I don't get Sprint coverage in my new house. I'm glad I did. Pre's notification system and multi-tasking to a degree is a little bit better. Everything else besides is way better on the iPhone 3Gs. That Vista reference really suits the Pre well.
Ok vid, I just wish you would have explored functionality of some of the core functions in more detail. Speed difference if significant is going to impact my choice, but clearly here there were no clear winners. I looked at your vid cause I was keen to see you compare functionality like contacts lists, email, calendar. Will the calendar synch with outlook express? would be great to see a second installment of your review address some of these points.
GSM pre? With what service? GSM is for sim cards that can be removed. Sprint doesn't have sim cards that are removable.
Do you get WiFi everywhere you go? Some of us leave our homes from time to time.
The problem with app opening comparisons is that the iPhone app is always open once it's been opened. The pre actually closes the app. To close an iPhone app, you have to reboot or use a jailbreak.
Im getting an iPhone3Gs and im wondering if im connected to my home wireless internet, and am using the internet or whatever, will that go on my data plan?
Thanks for the help.
But if i buy one from ebay with no contract will i be able to use all the media functions, camera etc?
I wish you would have taken off that message notification on the Pre. It bugged me the entire time. Not to mention it makes the Pre's screen look smaller than it actually is.
In comment to the Screen rotation on the internet, I think for the Palm Pre, having it rotate so quickly isn't a good thing, if you were to hold it down by your side for example, it looks over sensitive so you could get it rotating when you don't want it too
If you do the same with the iPhone, I may not, I think the iPhone takes longer to ensure you don't go landscape by mistake...
I think I am talking Bulcrap...
I think it was because of different OS. The iphone 3gs has a samsumg s5pc100(ARM Cortex-A8) running on 600Mhz while the palm pre has Ti omap3430(ARM Cortex-A8) running on 600Mhz as well. It won't be too much difference about the pure cpu performance. That was the system gives iphone such a advantage. As you can tell these two are running at a relatively same speed when loading a webpage under a webkit-based browser. The 3GS and Palm Pre both have 256MB DDR1 RAM. However, the img sgx535 gpu inside iPhone 3GS is about twice the speed of img sgx530 gpu inside the Palm Pre. The gpu part of the 3GS is 15x faster than the img sgx MBX gpu inside the iphone 3G/2G.
when do you thinks the iphone 3G S will come out in other countries
i wanna know witch is the fastest htc imagio or the iphone 3gs? you should make a video of it it'll be so sweet to see them two face off.
Anyone notice when the calendar and twitter app open a bit faster on the 3GS, he uses the words "a lot faster" but when Pre's screen reorients a bit faster he uses the words "a little faster". So when a marathon runner finishes 2 seconds faster than another do you say "a lot faster"? When a 100m sprinter finishes 2 seconds faster than another do you say "a little faster"?
How do you get the notifications to show up on the calender? I have the 3G S as well.
Was this a study you did? Because that makes no sense.
I was playing with all different kinds of phones at the At&t store. And sucked hard with touch screen keyboards. I could pull off the physical keyboard, basically without issue.
The touch screen kept pressing the wrong letters when I was typing.
What was that Icon in the iPhone calendar screen in the lower right?
so the speaker in the 3GS is better than in the 3G? how much better would you say?
The pre dosent have auto correct yet. this was brought up and palm have said they will include it in the new firmware update in november.
you can't add autofocus. It's built in hardware. But your point makes total sense.
To be honest, when you did the screen rotation tests, I really don't care how fast they turn... As long as it turns in a quick fast amount of time, I really dont have any complaints.
hey why don't you compare a motorola brick phone with the palm pre while ur at it? It's not fair that we're comparing newer motorola-made cellphones to first gen whatevertheheckcompany's cell phone right?
Palm Pre doesn't have any third party applications that's great in the iPhone. If, when Palm will ship its SDK late this summer, more applications like games or utilities will be available, running them in the same time in multi-task will slowing down the device a lot. Running a Mail application, Web browser and a Calendar in the same time is very easy, but, what will be running two games, one navigation application as TomTom and the rest in the same time?? Multi-task will show then its limits.
one question if you can help me about if i get one iphone from USA can i open it
in other country like can i make call , send some message like when i use it
in USA
i need your help
and thanks a lot
Could you tell something about the battery lives next time? I think it's quite important. Espescially for a phone like iPhone where you can't switch batteries.
do you need to pay alot on the internet on the pre? cuz the iphone is like $9.99 a month
when will the Iphone 3G S be available in other parts of the world? like Romania? or Europe?
@ 07blkCobalt
multitasking is possible if you do a jailbreak on your iphone
At 6:36
...they've got the same exact processor and even the same amount of RAM. Only difference is that WebOS is a 1.0 release and not as refined as iPhone OS 3.0 just yet. The 3GS's GPU may also be the reason for the bump.
I NEED HELP!
CAN I USE A PRE WITH NO SIM CARD???
I want one but i dont need the phone function as i already have an iPhone 3GS.
i think he is referring to the added cost of the at&t plan on the 2 year contract.
If a speed test is going to be performed on these 2 phones doesn't it make more sense to do it on WiFi and not 3G?
Can anyone tell me if it is worth getting an iphone when I could get an ipod touch, it does just do the same things except for the obvious right. Calling, texting etc.
Same thing I was thinking. But the multi-tasking handling on the Pre looks cool. Can't wait to see what Apple will come up with :D
Also: Palm has publicly stated they will provide VIDEO RECORDING for the Palm Pre soon.
I´m from sweden and i ordered a 3Gs tuesday and the webpage said that it´ll come 2010/01/11!!! I was really suprised... I knew it was out in the webshop but wow!! I´m so excited now, I cant wait... But it´s a long time so...
The camera on the Pre has a flash and is much faster in taking pictures and storing photos. When you hold down the space bar on the keyboard, you can literally take a picture per second! The screen resolutions on both phones are exactly the same (480x360), but Pre's a lil smaller making the picture a little bit crisper. Both processors are 600 mhz, and they both have 256MB RAM. So when you say "it's not even close" you are clearly wrong! But when you add multitasking, it really isn't close!
wait why do people say theres no to do list on the iphone 3G S's calender, you just add what you want to do on some day...
I like how theres a Palm Pre ad on the 3GS
The only thing I don't like about Jon is that when the 3G S is faster, he says "noticably faster" and when the Pre is faster by the same time, he says "a little bit faster", for example the screen rotation and the Engadget page loading.
@Peredereyev the 3GS doesn't overheat... too much engadget for you lol.... it was already changed.... it was found out to be a third party case issue where the case was bleeding color onto white 3GS's .
which phone is going to be your "go-to" phone for everyday use??
The rotation speed on the iPhone is purposly slower just incase you flipped it by mistake, so it doesn't change when you don't want it to.
typing on a touch screen definitely is harder to type on than a physical one at first, but after about around a day or two, you can type on it just as fast.
It requires some time to get used to it
@anas272829 yes when on a call you can still use all of your apps, well except for something like the ipod obviously. but this summer there will be an update to the iphone 3gs that will allow you to run any apps at the same time. so to answer your question directly, yes you can use your messaging while in a call
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can you look at what version of bt
you have on your palm? Under device
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wat do u xpect jon if the new 1 want all about speed apple would call it iphone 3 gen/iphone pro
This video is outdated. The Pre has video recording. The keyboard is also very easy to get used to. The apps may be lacking, but think for a second, how many apps could you possibly need? At most a twitter client and a few games, which the Pre has. The phones are both very equally matched. But when you throw the HTC EVO into the argument, both of these are blown out of the water.
the google maps app on the pre is also a web app and it works just as fast if not faster than the iphones
jon4lakers good review but you seem more bias towards the iphone,why didn't you mention the pre's camera has flash when the iphone 3gs doesn't you did point out a negative for pre stating it couldn't record video but not point out a negative for iphone 3gs saying it lacks flash. Video editing can be added by firmware updated but flash can't be added by a firmware update.
haha it was mad funny when fred was talking and jon was like okaaay thats enough of that. XD
lets not forget we can keep multiple apps open at the same time so actually if you had the apps open on the pre it would be faster because you dont have to close whatever you were doing before.
the page you were looking at will pop back up
I like when you go to compare the youtube video quality you change the subject and talk about the volume of the speaker?? Way to stay on track...
And if you are curious, the Pre video quality blows away the Iphone video playback. No contest... but I like how you glossed over that detail and major review feature.
there is a limited autocorrect and auto-fill on the Pre.
Both processors are the same speed (600Mhz) though different dies - TI for Palm, Samsung for iPhone.
iPhone has an app store with 50.000 applications so 50.000 more reasons to get an iphone. it also has the Nike+ support which is great for workout and it also has a great unmatched ipod app
Once u can use more than one app at the same time you'll be surprised at how often u do it. On the Pre I often have email, messaging, pandora and multiple web pages open at the same time. Then a call comes in and pauses the music streaming to my wireless stereo bluetooth headset and launches the phone app. It really changes the way you think about how a phone should behave. Feels more like a mini-netbook than a phone. 30+ homebrew apps exist now including turning pre into a wifi access point.
did you ever think the 3G s looks the same as the 3G because we kept asking for it and all they had done was a new camera, voice control, prosesser, and compass and had no time for a new apperance or shell???
not to mention that the iphone has had massive price cuts as well... what was the price of the original iphone again?? hmm?
yea and on iPhone you can rotate it at 90 degree angle or 30 degree angle other phones u have to completely turn the phone at a 90 degree angle
Firstly, it's not "iPod touch functionality" It's music player application, and they call it iPod, and Palm Pre has it's own music player app.
should i get an iphone 3g or wait for iphone 3gs jailbreak or wait until september for new ipod touch cause i have verizn
whats better white or black im getting the iphone 3gs on o2 £450 what colour should i get :/ ?
The IPhone 3G S has a much larger screen and may take a fraction or two longer to fill the screen, you should have mentioned this to be fair to the iPhone.
thank you for this. though i think you failed to mention the more dominant screen in both size and resolution. plus the Iphone has a million applications you can download. the only advantage of the pre is multi tasking. the pre's keyboard just plain sucks.. I am currently with spring and I own an Instinct and I dont really like it. I am waiting until my contract is up and im getting an Iphone
so i'm on like verizon mid contract. should i leave and get the iphone or wait for the palm pre
Screen rotating - not faster on Pre, Apple purposely added a delay.
Oh i forgot something .. The awsome voice control that the iPhone has, its really amazing that it works without lag or something.
How can you call it pointless when every other smartphone features it?
Palm pre isn't quicker in screen rotation, but iphone has built in delay to make sure that phone is not turned sideways by mistake.
Exactly ...The pre does look very nice.
Multitasking Vs Video recording is the main issue for me.
just to touch on what you said mate, you had 3 bars of 3g for the pre not 5
Where? Huh? it rocks in LA. It's awesome here. It may suck where u live, but it totally rocks here.
The fact that you had to spec even down to the colour of your iPhone " black iPhone 16GB 3G" is just testament to the fact that most people who buy iPhones are model queens.
Just so you know, you can go to settings then messages and turn off message preview.
I've been looking at the Pre and 3GS and because I am currently a at&t customer I will be upgrading to the 3gs in January. Maby there will be a even better version of the iphone available by then who knows. I looked at the Pre and while I do think it's a cool phone I just can't see a reason to switch service to Sprint to get the Pre. At&t has better coverage than Sprint so that's my take on this whole Pre/3gs thing.
LOL I liked the shock in his voice when the Palm Pre's rotation was faster than the 3GS... sounds a lot like the buyer's remorse my cousin had when he held his 3GS next to my Pre! LOL
It also comes down to carrier, people... AT&T is woefully inadequate to support the 3GS's capabilities... can't even support MMS yet!!! Sprint is also TONS cheaper per month with their Everything Data plans. (P.S. All Sprint plans for the Pre include GPS navigation! AT&T doesn't.)
i dont know, to me it appeared that the palm pre was slightly faster then the iphone yet he keeps saying they loaded the same time, is it just me or was this review slightly biased
The screen rotation test was all wrong, the iPhone screen rotation is delayed on purpose because sometime people accidentally turn they're iPhone sideways for a second and back again, the delay is a feature, trust me I have an iPhone 4 and it's a lot faster then the 3Gs but screen rotation is the same speed. It's a feature.
sorry jon but i gotta say you made one mistake. the pre and the 3g s both have exactly the same processor. and both operate at the same speed. ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz
yea I thought that was why the iPhone did that sometimes, I mean on the game Venger, you can switch screen rotation very quickly, but its not like that on safari for iphone
multi-tasking is really the only thing the pre has on the iphone. as far as keyboard you could say that the pre's keyboard evens out with the fact that the buttons are small and you do have to slide it open. and when you do slide open the pre it doesn't look as cool. the pre isn't as sleek looking in the first place