logan atwood I absolutely loved my palm pre and so disappointed that WebOS just dropped off the face of the planet. I was hoping that when HP got a hold of it they'd bring it back with tablets. to date, IMO, WebOS is hands down the best OS.
***** I agree that they defiantly rushed into the market with the phone. And your point about the pre only being launched on sprint reminds me of how apple was with the iPhone all the way up until the 4. They kept the phone exclusively to AT&T which was a for sure dumb idea when you look at how the market for it has grown as of now.
logan atwood The Pre could've easily been the hot phone on the other 3 carriers, then licensing it would've been real serious competition to Apple. But No, Palm fucked it up until it was too late.
The Pre does in fact sync to exchange, gmail, pop3, yahoo and other mail servers. The contacts sync with those servers as well as facebook and linkedin. You can also apply patches to the Pre that customizes the icons, dock, launcher and other things, and the best part is that it doesn't break your warranty.
@@the_mariocrafter Lol, it's been 12 years since I commented on this. Haha, makes me finally feel old. I can't even remember our original convo. But I did own one of the Pre's. It was awesome. And I think it had a lot of innovation that current phones don't have. Sleep well, sweet prince.
Yes. Any jpg, and there's a zoom / center feature so you don't have to crop photos to exactly the pre's native desktop size. I have ceiling cat on mine.
I'd like to point out a major mistake in this video. The quick launch on the palm pre is EASILY customized. You simply open the launcher, hover over the icon you'd like to remove, and drag and drop as you would if you were rearranging the icons on either the pre or the iphone. The pre allows you to use any four programs and the "launcher" button on the quick launch bar.
1/2 You can custmize the bottom icons on the pre. Just hold and drag out one of the left 4 icons(not the laucher) to the menu and then you will have an open spot. Now you can drag any icon into that space. You can also get an onscreen keyboard for the pre. The 3gs/pre would be a better comparison but they are still pretty even. Both the 3gs and pre eat battery very quickly which is their biggest flaw. The iphone has good support after jailbreaking.
Great demo. Ive had the pre for 3 months and its worked flawlessly. It even survived being left out in a tropical storm. I had a treo before I had the pre so I was used to 3 day battery life and still getting used to having to charge it every night (the pre gets about 12-16 hours depending on usage) but the touchstone charging sweet. I also have an ipod touch and in comparison, i like most of the pre apps better. All in all, the pre rocks!
pre has gps as well, you can also listen to music and watch videos (you don't need itunes to load media) games are in development though but a lot of ppl are taking advantage of the dev software to make there own games, so far ive seen all the usual games as well as doom and im sure there will be countless more to come. though i do say the phones are very very close
Thanks a lot for the video. I have the iPod Touch and, though I really like it, I don't want to leave my current carrier just to get the iPhone - I'm not too keen on ATT. My son suggested the Pre and this video helps compare the features I like. As I have the iTouch already, I'm not worried about losing out on games. I'll view your other videos to see additional features on the Pre. Thanks again.
and the home icons on the home screen of the pre ARE NOT HARD SET you can very well change all of them except the app launch arrow, all you do is press and hold the icons to move them and re-arrange them
The first pre was really ahead of it time in term of OS. It's too bad the actually hardware sucked. Still I appreciated the effort and have the default Pre ringtone as my default ringtone on my current android phone.
you can change the bottom icons by pressing the launcher button and then dragging those bottom icons into the launcher and swapping them out with other icons
The important thing to remember is that you have to remove one of the bottom icons BEFORE adding another, or else it won't let you do it. (That's probably why the reviewer thought it couldn't be done.) But yes, it's absolutely customizable! My bottom four includes the Quick Dialer app, web browser, Tweed, and Feeds (RSS feed reader.)
Hey, I got 2 questions, 1st. Can it record video or audio? Also, How many can u open with the multitasker? I just want to know before I get the phone :) Thanks!
you can't rely on one company to innovate. The more that are supported, the more innovation will come as a result. Palm deserves recognition for pulling off a VERY functional and pretty phone.
FYI.. You can change the icons on the PRE's 4 icon menu at the bottom of the screen.. SImply open up launcher, hold your finger on the icon you want to remove, and drag it in to launcher.. then tap and hold the icon you want to put on the menu bar and drag it in place. THE PRE IS AWESOME! I love the phone.
my buddy has the Pre and I love it I seen the Pixi and I don't like the visible keyboard I like the Pre better but thanks for the advice I might just wait to see if Pre 2 will come out.
not a bad comparison but you didnt compare two mobile sites when you did the browser accelerometer. and i am pretty sure the iphone is supposed to wait a moment to make sure you wanted to go sideways
This was a good comparison video. I have been using iPhone since it first came out and I'm looking to defect. Reason is not because of the phone itself, but the Apple/AT&T business practice of piece-mealing what should have been in the first phone. i.e. voice dial, MMS.
where have you been??? the palm pre was allowed to download music via itunes until apple brought out the new itunes update which was put out to block the palm pre, try keeping up to date with the news
if you want to compare the rotation of the browser you should open the same site on both phones, because the site you opened on the iPhone is much bigger than the mobile optimized site on the pré so of course the iPhone needs some more time..
yes you can listen to music while you text and browse on the iPhone...and my iPhone multitasks with an app...but I hardly find myself doing that...and my trasfers go really fast on Itunes...
I usually don't have more than 2 or three open at a time, if that. Multitasking is more of a convenience for me. But as far as battery is concerned, I have friends who own iPhones and we all agree that the battery life is about the same on both with regular daily use.
I was gonna get an EVO, but i had no contract upgrade, so that would cost quite a lot. But i went on eBay and got a Pre for $120, activated right away, and I love it!
He forgot to mention how the palm pre has a 3.2 megapixel camera vs. the iphones 2.0 megapixel. I also like where palm is going in terms of accessories for the pre. the touchstone charger is badass, and im sure they will be coming out with more unique accessories in the future. regardless of all of this, iphone still has the pre beat soley because of its app store. but the pre is still fairly new and should have more apps coming out in the future.
one thing you also have to think about when your doing the screen flippingn thing is that the iphone has all your contacts and stuff like that the pre doesnt have like anything in it yet
you can customize the bottom menu on the pre just go to you lanucher arrow and just tap and hold on one of the 4 on the bottom and drag it up to move it off. then drag a new one in
Great review, I bought my pre on day one and my wife and sons a week later. We have had no problems and the only issue is battery life for my son whos always multitasking on his facebook and myspace and texting. Iphone is also a good phone. Competition is great for the consumer.
The spin of the screen could also be due to the page... And I like having a bigger screen on the iPhone. Also I prefer how the iPhone can sync to exchange and other mail servers. The palm pre does not. And with a jailbroken iPhone, you can increase the dock size, and customize.
I used to own an iPhone, and while it fills a niche for many people, it did not with me. I've owned my Palm Pre since June and am still in love with it. Best smartphone I've ever owned.
Multi-tasking is not that big of deal and you can do it on the iPhone, you can have music playing while sending an email while browsing the internet or maps or whatever, and push notifications is great so its not really that big of a deal to have multi-tasking. Why would you want to sacrifice battery life and performance for just having 4 different applications open on the pre which you could instead just close and go back to.
I do like the real keyboard on the pre, but it does seem rather cramped compared to the horizontal keyboard on iPhone 3.0. Also, the battery life wasn't mentioned about the pre. Would be good to know, as iPhone battery is relativley short, but bloody impressive really when u think about what it actually get out of it. Also, does the pre have a video camera? Stupid question but iPhone only just got one. Sent from my iPhone.
When people ask me why I like the pre as opposed to the iPhone, I ask them several questions: 1. Can your iPhone multitask? (ie, listening to music WHILE you text or browse.) 2. Can you move ONLY the music/movies/pictures you want to simply by dragging and dropping? 3. Has YOUR iPhone exploded yet? 4. How much space does iTunes take on your PC, and how long does it take to transfer files?
The Pre plays the exact same video files as the iPhone. I took an entire 2 hour divx movie and converted it to iPhone Mp4 format using a popular iPhone converter tool and it played through the whole thing perfectly, with no quality issues whatsoever. The only thing that would have been better would be a larger screen like the iPhone. :)
in a way i can agree the pre kills iphone with internet speed and more responsive touch screen as well as multitasking but the 3G S is faster with voice commands and alot of other stuff but come on give the pre a break its the first of its kind so hopefully later when the second gen. comes out it'll hopefully be waaaay better by the way how much is the pre even though u have a contract with sprint?
Ok a couple things. First I'm sure someone has already said this but the 4 apps at the "home screen" of the Pre ARE able to be changed. For example I have the phone, messaging, web, notes, and launcher. And I do not think that Palm going with Sprint was a mistake. Sprint has by far the best plans- almost $100 a month less than a Verizon blackberry plan or a ATT Iphone plan for a family of 4. Also, Sprint has good coverage as well. And the touchstone? That is just awesome. Pre wins!
I dont think he meant to be biased towards the pre. The pre is a newer phone, maybe hes just trying to show the newer features. Im sure by now most people know how the iphone works and its features.
I dont know, its just much easier to use i feel. Also the buttons are tiny on the Palm, even in comaprison to a blackberrys buttons. i think the iphone is very user friendly, wheras the palm is a bit more for people who are good with phones. I doubt my dad would be able to use the palm wheras he can use the iPhone with ease
I have a palm pixi ... theres no slide out keyboard and its about the same size. without the slide out its much thinner. I love my palm pixi. Palm made some really great phones.
hey look 6 years later every phone has copied the palm pre
i love seeing these old videos, brings back a lot of good memories when phones became more advance!
Yes
So why does Apple keep patent trolling everyone when they got all their ideas from the palm pre/web OS?
Its amazing how much things have changed over the years. These two phones alone are my top two favorites of all time.
logan atwood I absolutely loved my palm pre and so disappointed that WebOS just dropped off the face of the planet. I was hoping that when HP got a hold of it they'd bring it back with tablets.
to date, IMO, WebOS is hands down the best OS.
***** I agree that they defiantly rushed into the market with the phone. And your point about the pre only being launched on sprint reminds me of how apple was with the iPhone all the way up until the 4. They kept the phone exclusively to AT&T which was a for sure dumb idea when you look at how the market for it has grown as of now.
logan atwood The Pre could've easily been the hot phone on the other 3 carriers, then licensing it would've been real serious competition to Apple. But No, Palm fucked it up until it was too late.
Yes. They have.
I miss my Palm Pixi
Nor sure if you updated with a correction but the PRE does have the ability the change the home keys at the bottom.
Whatever happened to Palm?
They went bust and sold Web OS to LG which they now use in their smart TVs
The Pre does in fact sync to exchange, gmail, pop3, yahoo and other mail servers. The contacts sync with those servers as well as facebook and linkedin. You can also apply patches to the Pre that customizes the icons, dock, launcher and other things, and the best part is that it doesn't break your warranty.
I remember when the palm pre was actually a thing lol now I have the 6 plus :)
the pre looks amazing, im gonna have to go and test this thing out
UA-cam suggestion bring me here ... at 2019
2022 lol
yes it is. just like most other phones you can set the background to one of the preloaded images, photos that you take yourself, or downloaded images.
Iphone X
Dr.ManHat beat me to it lol
Esmeralda Doll only reason why I was here lol
Dr.ManHat Lol Aw
Dr.ManHat You're right, Apple copied Palm.
I'm so excited to see how well the pre is running.
Getting one tomorrow!
Did you get one?
@@the_mariocrafter Lol, it's been 12 years since I commented on this. Haha, makes me finally feel old. I can't even remember our original convo. But I did own one of the Pre's. It was awesome. And I think it had a lot of innovation that current phones don't have. Sleep well, sweet prince.
funny how iOS7 now uses swipe up to close apps from WebOs! 4 year old technology!
The palm also has a moving wallpaper when you tilt the phone, also included in iOS 7!
True! i'm a ios 7 user anyway!
LOL you sound so ignorant. 4 year old technology? you mean 4 year old animations!
And Android Pie & Queen Cake
Great video John! This was one of the first videos I watched from you
Yes. Any jpg, and there's a zoom / center feature so you don't have to crop photos to exactly the pre's native desktop size. I have ceiling cat on mine.
The palm pre was ahead of its time, I was considering picking that, but ended up getting the iphone 3g instead
There you go , you finally got it right this time
I'd like to point out a major mistake in this video. The quick launch on the palm pre is EASILY customized. You simply open the launcher, hover over the icon you'd like to remove, and drag and drop as you would if you were rearranging the icons on either the pre or the iphone.
The pre allows you to use any four programs and the "launcher" button on the quick launch bar.
lol yes the pre holds music... it even has a standard jack for your favorite headphones on the bottom. its cool
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You can custmize the bottom icons on the pre. Just hold and drag out one of the left 4 icons(not the laucher) to the menu and then you will have an open spot. Now you can drag any icon into that space. You can also get an onscreen keyboard for the pre. The 3gs/pre would be a better comparison but they are still pretty even. Both the 3gs and pre eat battery very quickly which is their biggest flaw. The iphone has good support after jailbreaking.
Great demo. Ive had the pre for 3 months and its worked flawlessly. It even survived being left out in a tropical storm. I had a treo before I had the pre so I was used to 3 day battery life and still getting used to having to charge it every night (the pre gets about 12-16 hours depending on usage) but the touchstone charging sweet. I also have an ipod touch and in comparison, i like most of the pre apps better. All in all, the pre rocks!
pre has gps as well, you can also listen to music and watch videos (you don't need itunes to load media) games are in development though but a lot of ppl are taking advantage of the dev software to make there own games, so far ive seen all the usual games as well as doom and im sure there will be countless more to come. though i do say the phones are very very close
I didn't try the Pre but I do really love my 3GS. Just for the music player, the app store. The games. It's a sick ass phone
Thanks a lot for the video. I have the iPod Touch and, though I really like it, I don't want to leave my current carrier just to get the iPhone - I'm not too keen on ATT. My son suggested the Pre and this video helps compare the features I like. As I have the iTouch already, I'm not worried about losing out on games. I'll view your other videos to see additional features on the Pre. Thanks again.
and the home icons on the home screen of the pre ARE NOT HARD SET you can very well change all of them except the app launch arrow, all you do is press and hold the icons to move them and re-arrange them
Good comparison... Real question is how is the battery life on that thing? Small devices and multitasking don't mix!
The first pre was really ahead of it time in term of OS. It's too bad the actually hardware sucked. Still I appreciated the effort and have the default Pre ringtone as my default ringtone on my current android phone.
you can change the bottom icons by pressing the launcher button and then dragging those bottom icons into the launcher and swapping them out with other icons
The important thing to remember is that you have to remove one of the bottom icons BEFORE adding another, or else it won't let you do it. (That's probably why the reviewer thought it couldn't be done.) But yes, it's absolutely customizable! My bottom four includes the Quick Dialer app, web browser, Tweed, and Feeds (RSS feed reader.)
u can also set up advanced gustures allows u to switch between cards by swiping the entire length of the gesture area
fantastic video. i'm looking to buy either the pre or the htc hero and this gave me a great glimpse at the pre being used.
Hey, I got 2 questions, 1st. Can it record video or audio? Also, How many can u open with the multitasker? I just want to know before I get the phone :)
Thanks!
backgrounder
you can't rely on one company to innovate. The more that are supported, the more innovation will come as a result. Palm deserves recognition for pulling off a VERY functional and pretty phone.
You CAN change the home screen apps on the palm pre! I do it all the time.
FYI.. You can change the icons on the PRE's 4 icon menu at the bottom of the screen.. SImply open up launcher, hold your finger on the icon you want to remove, and drag it in to launcher.. then tap and hold the icon you want to put on the menu bar and drag it in place. THE PRE IS AWESOME! I love the phone.
yeah and on top of that if you jailbreak there is an app that allows multi tasking
Whens the pre-10 supposed to come out? Idk if I should keep my iPhone or not
my buddy has the Pre and I love it I seen the Pixi and I don't like the visible keyboard I like the Pre better but thanks for the advice I might just wait to see if Pre 2 will come out.
ya they are also missing Jailbreaking ( does virtually anything) and the palm was made by an apple worker so leave it at that
not a bad comparison but you didnt compare two mobile sites when you did the browser accelerometer. and i am pretty sure the iphone is supposed to wait a moment to make sure you wanted to go sideways
this video was made before the 3gs came out. The 3gs still can't multitask, which is a big feature of the Pre.
U can deff customize the quik launch in the bottom of the pre all u do is hold the icon u want to switch and drag it to the launcher
This was a good comparison video. I have been using iPhone since it first came out and I'm looking to defect. Reason is not because of the phone itself, but the Apple/AT&T business practice of piece-mealing what should have been in the first phone. i.e. voice dial, MMS.
Can't wait for the new line of Palm(HP) phones! My contract is up in December! :)
where have you been??? the palm pre was allowed to download music via itunes until apple brought out the new itunes update which was put out to block the palm pre, try keeping up to date with the news
The pre just came out.. they already have a small app store thing for it.. im sure even more apps will start coming in the future for it. so yeaaaaa
the new Palm Pre PLUS = turns your phone into a WI-FI station for your laptop!
Badass.
Excellent video review of the Palm Pre !
I'm really thinking to buy one...
if you want to compare the rotation of the browser you should open the same site on both phones, because the site you opened on the iPhone is much bigger than the mobile optimized site on the pré so of course the iPhone needs some more time..
I'm loving the form factor. When my contract is done, I know what I'm going to get.
yes you can listen to music while you text and browse on the iPhone...and my iPhone multitasks with an app...but I hardly find myself doing that...and my trasfers go really fast on Itunes...
I usually don't have more than 2 or three open at a time, if that. Multitasking is more of a convenience for me. But as far as battery is concerned, I have friends who own iPhones and we all agree that the battery life is about the same on both with regular daily use.
Now, here's the big question. Does the Palm Pre support Adobe Flash?
he is not a fanboy, but if you were to look at the date of the video that was posted you would understand that its 10 prior to 3gs release
I was gonna get an EVO, but i had no contract upgrade, so that would cost quite a lot. But i went on eBay and got a Pre for $120, activated right away, and I love it!
ha yeah i was about to say, i dont even have one and i new that. would you say that you like the PRE better than the HERO?
1:51 he spits on the palm pre screen
He forgot to mention how the palm pre has a 3.2 megapixel camera vs. the iphones 2.0 megapixel. I also like where palm is going in terms of accessories for the pre. the touchstone charger is badass, and im sure they will be coming out with more unique accessories in the future. regardless of all of this, iphone still has the pre beat soley because of its app store. but the pre is still fairly new and should have more apps coming out in the future.
this is not a fair comparison. it should be between the pre and the 3GS seeing as they both came to the market at relatively the same time.
one thing you also have to think about when your doing the screen flippingn thing is that the iphone has all your contacts and stuff like that the pre doesnt have like anything in it yet
Thanks for the excellent review. I've been on the fence about both.
if you had the choice..
would you take the iPhone or the Pre?
you can customize the bottom menu on the pre just go to you lanucher arrow and just tap and hold on one of the 4 on the bottom and drag it up to move it off. then drag a new one in
Notice on the Pre he only had 2-3 bars for Sprint service but on the iPhone he always had full bars.
The PRE has a lot of of features to come that you can't imagine its possible!! TRUST ME!
"Appreciate how small it is" LOL, wouldn't be saying that today
Its a wireless magnetic charger. search it on youtube, there are videos showing it.
Maybe some day, but it will be a sprint exclusive for a while, that is just normally how palm does it.
i have looked at the palm uk, and it is coming to the uk. im getting one!
im about to get a pre, im pretty excited aswell.
Great review, I bought my pre on day one and my wife and sons a week later. We have had no problems and the only issue is battery life for my son whos always multitasking on his facebook and myspace and texting. Iphone is also a good phone. Competition is great for the consumer.
well Now in the iphone 3gs you can hold the home button while in any application for a few seconds and SPEAK the persons name and call them
The spin of the screen could also be due to the page... And I like having a bigger screen on the iPhone. Also I prefer how the iPhone can sync to exchange and other mail servers. The palm pre does not. And with a jailbroken iPhone, you can increase the dock size, and customize.
I used to own an iPhone, and while it fills a niche for many people, it did not with me. I've owned my Palm Pre since June and am still in love with it. Best smartphone I've ever owned.
Multi-tasking is not that big of deal and you can do it on the iPhone, you can have music playing while sending an email while browsing the internet or maps or whatever, and push notifications is great so its not really that big of a deal to have multi-tasking. Why would you want to sacrifice battery life and performance for just having 4 different applications open on the pre which you could instead just close and go back to.
I do like the real keyboard on the pre, but it does seem rather cramped compared to the horizontal keyboard on iPhone 3.0.
Also, the battery life wasn't mentioned about the pre. Would be good to know, as iPhone battery is relativley short, but bloody impressive really when u think about what it actually get out of it.
Also, does the pre have a video camera? Stupid question but iPhone only just got one.
Sent from my iPhone.
When people ask me why I like the pre as opposed to the iPhone, I ask them several questions:
1. Can your iPhone multitask? (ie, listening to music WHILE you text or browse.)
2. Can you move ONLY the music/movies/pictures you want to simply by dragging and dropping?
3. Has YOUR iPhone exploded yet?
4. How much space does iTunes take on your PC, and how long does it take to transfer files?
I remember wanting the Palm Pre so bad when I was in 6th grade at this time. Good times good times.
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if you didn't notice he is reviewing the PRE and using the iphone for a comparison. Thats not bias.
hello from 2017, I still waiting for webos return
@hengineer, correct, but no one remembres that!!, they did wireless PDA, almost before windows did.
you need to update you video with the upgraded version of the palm pre
kick ass way to unlock the pre
actally the palm pre does have an app store, but right now its a betta.
you can have the Palm Pre multi-tasking with the iPhone if you get ProSwitcher from Cydia
Pag.67 Palm Pre user manual:
You can cut or copy any editable text. Tap the text to insert the cursor-if the cursor appears,
you can edit the text.
Man,the Pre was so ahead of its time.Android still struggles to have animations as smooth and fluid as the one seen in this video.
Nice work Jon4lakers
I do love the iPhone. It has its flaws but it does everything so much better :)
Great video.
5/5
The Pre plays the exact same video files as the iPhone. I took an entire 2 hour divx movie and converted it to iPhone Mp4 format using a popular iPhone converter tool and it played through the whole thing perfectly, with no quality issues whatsoever. The only thing that would have been better would be a larger screen like the iPhone. :)
Palm Pre is nice but i love that new Palm Pixi! My iPhone broke so i currently have a Blackberry Bold 9700
in a way i can agree the pre kills iphone with internet speed and more responsive touch screen as well as multitasking but the 3G S is faster with voice commands and alot of other stuff but come on give the pre a break its the first of its kind so hopefully later when the second gen. comes out it'll hopefully be waaaay better by the way how much is the pre even though u have a contract with sprint?
Ok a couple things. First I'm sure someone has already said this but the 4 apps at the "home screen" of the Pre ARE able to be changed. For example I have the phone, messaging, web, notes, and launcher.
And I do not think that Palm going with Sprint was a mistake. Sprint has by far the best plans- almost $100 a month less than a Verizon blackberry plan or a ATT Iphone plan for a family of 4. Also, Sprint has good coverage as well.
And the touchstone? That is just awesome.
Pre wins!
I dont think he meant to be biased towards the pre. The pre is a newer phone, maybe hes just trying to show the newer features. Im sure by now most people know how the iphone works and its features.
No multi-tasking? Can the 3GS at least play iTunes while web browsing?
You can change the 5 icons on the bottom of the Palm Pre.
I dont know, its just much easier to use i feel. Also the buttons are tiny on the Palm, even in comaprison to a blackberrys buttons.
i think the iphone is very user friendly, wheras the palm is a bit more for people who are good with phones. I doubt my dad would be able to use the palm wheras he can use the iPhone with ease
I have a palm pixi ... theres no slide out keyboard and its about the same size. without the slide out its much thinner. I love my palm pixi. Palm made some really great phones.