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Enjoy! you brave man or ... The bike looks like a million dollars. The veritcal lights look so good, I will have copy this and make something for my bike.
Yep buying parts is essential for these. I have seen some of these being taped full black so I don't think a few scratches is a huge problem at least for me.
Nice video especially light comparison with the same camera settings and drone shot as well. That's a tough filming at -16C)). Request: When you change tires, please make a quick run on tarmac between 60-100km/h and release handle bar to see does it wobble if you ride handless. Usually if the windscreen is installed in obtuse angle that could cause wobbling and instability, (physical law of air pressure)
Coming back to this now I haven't found any unstability on higher speed during my summer rides. Only thing I have noticed is that maybe impacts to the steering riding harder enduro high speed technical terrain is felt a bit more as there is more mass moving about but this is very minor and usually not even noticeable. Wind is definitely not giving me any stability issues though.
Hyvännäköinen torni ja melko kirkkaat valot. Laitoin omaan CRF300 Rallyyn lisävalon niin näkee hyvin pimeälläkin. Sen omaa pleksiä muokkasin pystympään ja taitoin myös yläreunasta eteenpäin. Sain tabletin näyttöä siten viisosti paremmin luettavaksi ja muuttui myös paremmin ilmaa kypärän yli ohjaavaksi. Tuossa taitaa olla jopa vieläkin pystympi tuo pleksin asento. Vaikuttaa hyvältä. Rallyyn sovitin myös 250 Rallyn alasuojaraudan ja siihen sivuille pussukat. Rallyn katteista ja pussukoista saa hyvin viima ha sadesuojaa jaloillekin. Black Widow putki, ilmanoton modaus snorkkelista ja suodattimesta EJK seossäädön kanssa herätti mukavasti ja 14/42 rattaat.
thanks for a video. top notch work on the review - light comparison, air flow description. not a big fan of the looks, as neutral as stock for me, but somehow out of place… the fact that it does the air job (;)) done so well is the first reason i'd get it. second is horizontal bar to mount gps/phone - but are those two things worth paying for the whole package? by the way, i've done some dynamic riding in slovenian mountains/villages during the night and stock light was enough for what this bike is capable of. there was literally one, ok two moments when i felt i could have better vision. but i think 10€ flashlight mount could cover that. then it's up to you weather to mount wide light flood (like for camping, slow technical passages, corers) or narrow beam for faster sections. otherwise, in my opinion stock is nearly always enough. and again - solid work on the video, thanks!
This is by all means not the most affordable way to do a light upgrade 😅 I think the price is ok if this is wat the byer is looking for exactly but other than that it is a lot of money to put on a cheap bike for sure. The plexi being a health risk is always something I have thought about too with a dualsport bike. I can't say that there is no risk with this one but at least the plexi is not bolted on so it might come off the bike more easier than most normal bolted solutions. Also the plexi is a bit more flexible so it is not as hard as for example my Tenere fairing is.. which is also bolted on so it's not going anywhere if I hit myself in it. The distance to the rider is shown pretty well on my youtube community page post. The second picture if you click the arrow or or swipe from the first one. There is some distance to the plexi but ofcourse its always possible to hit yourself in it if you are really unlucky. Setup like this can never be as safe as the enduro stock setup on the CRF. But also if you ride enduro with this bike you can just pull the plexi off and ride without it. No need for any tools and the light stays in its place.
Your bike looks awesome! I think it looks better than the tower on my stock Rally. Not only that, the light points in the same direction you point the handle bars, which is nice. I rectified that problem though with pod lights mounted to the forks. now i have ample amount of light. The only difference now in your bike and the Rally version, is that the lower plastics on the Rally actually do divert the air around the lower portion of the body, offering slightly more wind protection. its not very much, but when its cold every little bit counts. I want to know how you like your rear view mirrors, do they offer just as much visibility as the stock mirrors?
They absolutely do not. You can see car lights and stuff like that but the visibility other than that is very compromised.. and you can't see much what is behind you due to the placement. I like the mirrors as they are not in the way when I load the bike to my van (very often) and they are not going to hit anything as easily as the normal mirrors do. But for actually good mirrors I would go for doubletakes or something like that. I just personally don't like the look of those adv mirros at all :D
@@PatchedBandit thanks. Yeah, I don’t like the looks of the adv mirrors either. I bought some cheap folding mirrors off eBay, the mirror itself are triangular shaped. They perform ok, and look decent. They are slightly smaller than the stock, but I was hoping to go even smaller, but I don’t want to lose that much visibility. Thanks for the input!
Now that you've had the chance to ride it extensively, let me ask you: Do you feel the extra weight of the tower upon steering the motorcycle? I think that a slight disadvantage of this execution is that it is bolted on the steering system instead of the frame (as it is on the Adventure model). I have the same one and I can tell that steering has become considerably "heavier". BTW, love your channel, keep up the fantastic work. Cheers from Greece!
That's interesting as I havent really even noticed that myself. This might also be that I'm running spiked tires so the steering is very 'wild' lightly put as the grip is so different. Maybe my opinion changes over the summer but so far I haven't felt this. Also I could be making a small difference with my mirrors? They weigh nothing 😊 Thanks for watching the vids! My favorite coutry to ride Europe is Greece 🇬🇷
@@PatchedBandit yes, getting rid of the mirrors might help alleviating the effect. You should definitely come ride TET Greece in the summer, and you MUST get in touch with me before you do! Cheers!
Ive been there the last 2 years but not sure if I will make it this year 😣 join the discord or Whatsapp groups. I’ll keep those updated on my travel plans. WA is new but I made it as many dont use discord.
I need to talk to this company about building a tower for the 250F. I’m giving serious consideration to converting a 250F into a dual sport, and the tower would be a must. My Rally has me spoiled with the wind protection, plus I would need the lighting and the space to mount accessories.
Looks: way better than stock and the rally indeed! Light output: very bright 💡 Nice benefit the wind protection is better than the tenere (but that’s not really an achievement because the wind protection on the t7 is disappointing) Is there also a weight saving compared to the stock setup?
I think the bike is still between 2 to 3 kg lighter than the Rally version now not considering all the other mods. Swapping the Acerbis tank is gonna shave some more weight off the top when the tank is empty. I'm considering changing the exhaust next as the stock pipe is super heavy and it's all in thet heavy top part of the exhaust.
@@PatchedBandit I have also a problem how much km's I can ride with my XChallenge, only 9,5 litres tank but I have bought myself Desert Fox fuel cell 3L that gives me about 70km's more if I put it full.
It looks great 9 out of 10 also looking at something similar….have the adv spec mini fairing now but want better wind protection and better lights …can I ask how tall you are?
Why not buy the rally if you make the regular into a rally one? Not hate, just curious as I'm deciding between the two :) Do you have tyres with spikes?
I have a winter riding gear video coming out friday. I'll show the tires there a bit too. It's a good question and for me the decision was not super easy but here are few reasons why I went with the L version: 1. Rally is 1890 € more expensive in Finland 2. Rally is about 4 kg heavier than L. Not much but as the bike is already a bit heavy everything counts 3. I like the slimmer design of the L 4. Less plastics to brake on the L 5. I never liked the look of the Rally version. It looks weird in my opinion :) Not a huge issue but worth mentioning for sure. Even though I installed the Rally Tower I still have a LOT cheaper bike with even better lights than the standard Rally version. Even if I change the tank to Acerbis (which is lighter btw) I still get a lighter and more affordable bike.
Would that be a bigger tank than the stock L? In Norway the price difference is similar. But the 2023 Rally was priced just 3000nok less than the 2024 L However, the thing I noticed the most was how soft the suspension is, especially with a passenger. Stiffening that up might be in order@@PatchedBandit
Stock tank is 7.8 L on the CRF300L Acerbis Fuel tank 14L Honda CRF300L And CRF300 Rally has a stock 12.8 L So the L will have a bigger tank with the Acerbis upgrade. And as far as I understand the hardware itself is lighter. Plus the fuel sits lower on the Acerbis tank so it should be slightly better balanced too.
Oh yeah and I put in Rally Raid Level 1 set on mine. I have a few videos about it here too: ua-cam.com/play/PLjuLZY6TnpPnQWrKL7vgN6eCmeAY5Ea4Z.html&si=Ze5HsPs8_RieX0UP
Hello, I am wondering, the tower is mounted onto the triple clamps in stead of directly to the chassis (as with the Rally). Do you feel that weight on the steering handle while manoeuvring?
Can't feel it at all. It's only about 1.7kg heavier than the stock light setup so the difference is fairly minor. I have all the weights in the second install video description. I also prefer this mounting as the light turns with my handlebars.
@@PatchedBandit, ok thanks for your feedback. Also am looking for a rally tower for my CRF300L and I am considering 3 brands: The men cave Adventure, the One adventure and the ARX. I was a bit worried about the weight. Looks very awesome by the way, enjoy it !
I will thanks! Its nice that there are options on the market and I have been very happy with mine so far. Havent found any downsides to mention other than the shipping cost is high on their online shop. I hope they add a more affordable (and slower) option later for penny pinchers like me 😆.
I'd give that a 10/10 for looks and as you said quality, I may get one for my bike (not a Honda) if they make one for it, or if one for another bike can be made to fit.
I got bar gloves but they are not the focus of this video so I didnt put them on even at these temps. Im cold because I want you to see the setup better! ☝️😆
Had mine installed for about 5000km and still good! The metal parts and bolts have taken up a bit of surface rust so might be a good idea to coat them with something if you want to prevent it. But its nothing serious.
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Installed mine last week. Big money but worth every penny.
Glad you liked it too
Looks solid and lights are way better than stock. Not bad investment 👌
Agreed!
Impressive. Especially the lights. You have more night riding than we do in the South. Enjoy your improvements, Günter/Nürnberg
Sadly yes. The Finnish winter is brutally dark😮💨
Nice winterriding my friend, way better lighting 💪🔥
Yeah! Outduro will see a new and improved little Honda with fire in it's eyes 🔥😎
@@PatchedBandit No new stiches 👀😁🙌😜😅
Haha 😂 hopefully no 😵💫
That's awesome, I may need this now for my 250L !
I think it looks amazing, didn't think it would
Better than expected 😁
Awesome look, man !!! And respect : -16°c... you're a real rider, not a bla-bla man !
Looks insane honestly, badass mod
Enjoy! you brave man or ...
The bike looks like a million dollars. The veritcal lights look so good, I will have copy this and make something for my bike.
I think with plastic, scratching over time will be a bigger concern than breaking it. So it's quite good you can replace parts separately.
Yep buying parts is essential for these. I have seen some of these being taped full black so I don't think a few scratches is a huge problem at least for me.
Holy cow! :)
What tyres you got in that snow? :OOO)
Enduro spikes 😊 They grab that ice like its their last meal! 😆
It is looking great
Nice video especially light comparison with the same camera settings and drone shot as well. That's a tough filming at -16C)).
Request: When you change tires, please make a quick run on tarmac between 60-100km/h and release handle bar to see does it wobble if you ride handless. Usually if the windscreen is installed in obtuse angle that could cause wobbling and instability, (physical law of air pressure)
Thanks! I will definitely do more testing when the weather eases up 🙂 I could do that now but the spikes are so unstable there's no point 😆.
Coming back to this now I haven't found any unstability on higher speed during my summer rides. Only thing I have noticed is that maybe impacts to the steering riding harder enduro high speed technical terrain is felt a bit more as there is more mass moving about but this is very minor and usually not even noticeable.
Wind is definitely not giving me any stability issues though.
@@PatchedBandit Thank you. I installed it recently and noticed masses on steering wheel as well.
Excellent review. Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙂
Hyvännäköinen torni ja melko kirkkaat valot. Laitoin omaan CRF300 Rallyyn lisävalon niin näkee hyvin pimeälläkin.
Sen omaa pleksiä muokkasin pystympään ja taitoin myös yläreunasta eteenpäin.
Sain tabletin näyttöä siten viisosti paremmin luettavaksi ja muuttui myös paremmin ilmaa kypärän yli ohjaavaksi.
Tuossa taitaa olla jopa vieläkin pystympi tuo pleksin asento.
Vaikuttaa hyvältä.
Rallyyn sovitin myös 250 Rallyn alasuojaraudan ja siihen sivuille pussukat. Rallyn katteista ja pussukoista saa hyvin viima ha sadesuojaa jaloillekin.
Black Widow putki, ilmanoton modaus snorkkelista ja suodattimesta EJK seossäädön kanssa herätti mukavasti ja 14/42 rattaat.
Mistä ostit putken ja EJK:n?
Putki briteistä ja EJK hollannista netin kautta.
Looks great. Looks better than the 300 rally. Wish someone would come up with something for the rally.
Arx towers already have one for the 300 Rally. It’s well priced too
Even better is the arx tower for the 300 rally is frame mounted so takes all that weight off the handle bars
Looks great
I also like more looks of rally towers than stock light.
Most people who like dakar bikes like this look better :) I've also heard many that are not into bikes say that the stock look is better :)
thanks for a video. top notch work on the review - light comparison, air flow description. not a big fan of the looks, as neutral as stock for me, but somehow out of place… the fact that it does the air job (;)) done so well is the first reason i'd get it. second is horizontal bar to mount gps/phone - but are those two things worth paying for the whole package? by the way, i've done some dynamic riding in slovenian mountains/villages during the night and stock light was enough for what this bike is capable of. there was literally one, ok two moments when i felt i could have better vision. but i think 10€ flashlight mount could cover that. then it's up to you weather to mount wide light flood (like for camping, slow technical passages, corers) or narrow beam for faster sections. otherwise, in my opinion stock is nearly always enough. and again - solid work on the video, thanks!
ah is the plexi further away from the rider? not cutting neck in case of something unexpected?
This is by all means not the most affordable way to do a light upgrade 😅 I think the price is ok if this is wat the byer is looking for exactly but other than that it is a lot of money to put on a cheap bike for sure.
The plexi being a health risk is always something I have thought about too with a dualsport bike. I can't say that there is no risk with this one but at least the plexi is not bolted on so it might come off the bike more easier than most normal bolted solutions. Also the plexi is a bit more flexible so it is not as hard as for example my Tenere fairing is.. which is also bolted on so it's not going anywhere if I hit myself in it.
The distance to the rider is shown pretty well on my youtube community page post. The second picture if you click the arrow or or swipe from the first one. There is some distance to the plexi but ofcourse its always possible to hit yourself in it if you are really unlucky.
Setup like this can never be as safe as the enduro stock setup on the CRF. But also if you ride enduro with this bike you can just pull the plexi off and ride without it. No need for any tools and the light stays in its place.
Amazing well done, what tyres are you using 👍
Thanks! Winter gear video out in a couple of days (friday) 😊
Your bike looks awesome! I think it looks better than the tower on my stock Rally. Not only that, the light points in the same direction you point the handle bars, which is nice. I rectified that problem though with pod lights mounted to the forks. now i have ample amount of light. The only difference now in your bike and the Rally version, is that the lower plastics on the Rally actually do divert the air around the lower portion of the body, offering slightly more wind protection. its not very much, but when its cold every little bit counts. I want to know how you like your rear view mirrors, do they offer just as much visibility as the stock mirrors?
They absolutely do not. You can see car lights and stuff like that but the visibility other than that is very compromised.. and you can't see much what is behind you due to the placement.
I like the mirrors as they are not in the way when I load the bike to my van (very often) and they are not going to hit anything as easily as the normal mirrors do.
But for actually good mirrors I would go for doubletakes or something like that. I just personally don't like the look of those adv mirros at all :D
@@PatchedBandit thanks. Yeah, I don’t like the looks of the adv mirrors either. I bought some cheap folding mirrors off eBay, the mirror itself are triangular shaped. They perform ok, and look decent. They are slightly smaller than the stock, but I was hoping to go even smaller, but I don’t want to lose that much visibility. Thanks for the input!
Now that you've had the chance to ride it extensively, let me ask you: Do you feel the extra weight of the tower upon steering the motorcycle? I think that a slight disadvantage of this execution is that it is bolted on the steering system instead of the frame (as it is on the Adventure model). I have the same one and I can tell that steering has become considerably "heavier".
BTW, love your channel, keep up the fantastic work. Cheers from Greece!
That's interesting as I havent really even noticed that myself. This might also be that I'm running spiked tires so the steering is very 'wild' lightly put as the grip is so different.
Maybe my opinion changes over the summer but so far I haven't felt this. Also I could be making a small difference with my mirrors? They weigh nothing 😊
Thanks for watching the vids! My favorite coutry to ride Europe is Greece 🇬🇷
@@PatchedBandit yes, getting rid of the mirrors might help alleviating the effect. You should definitely come ride TET Greece in the summer, and you MUST get in touch with me before you do! Cheers!
Ive been there the last 2 years but not sure if I will make it this year 😣 join the discord or Whatsapp groups. I’ll keep those updated on my travel plans.
WA is new but I made it as many dont use discord.
@@PatchedBandit Wilco!
I need to talk to this company about building a tower for the 250F. I’m giving serious consideration to converting a 250F into a dual sport, and the tower would be a must. My Rally has me spoiled with the wind protection, plus I would need the lighting and the space to mount accessories.
Some of their versions might already fit. Definitely send them a msg 👍
@@PatchedBandit 👍🤙
Looks: way better than stock and the rally indeed!
Light output: very bright 💡
Nice benefit the wind protection is better than the tenere (but that’s not really an achievement because the wind protection on the t7 is disappointing)
Is there also a weight saving compared to the stock setup?
Its about 1.7kg heavier compared to the stock setup I removed. I have the weights on the second videos description 😊
That fairing looks so good. I wish ths bike had a little more power.
Everything can't be in the same package.. It's a problem 😄
Yes, bike looks very good with that tower. It also looks lighter than the actual Rally tower...
I think the bike is still between 2 to 3 kg lighter than the Rally version now not considering all the other mods. Swapping the Acerbis tank is gonna shave some more weight off the top when the tank is empty.
I'm considering changing the exhaust next as the stock pipe is super heavy and it's all in thet heavy top part of the exhaust.
@@PatchedBandit I have also a problem how much km's I can ride with my XChallenge, only 9,5 litres tank but I have bought myself Desert Fox fuel cell 3L that gives me about 70km's more if I put it full.
awesome !!
Verry good for rider❤❤❤❤❤
It looks great 9 out of 10 also looking at something similar….have the adv spec mini fairing now but want better wind protection and better lights …can I ask how tall you are?
I'm exactly 174cm (5 feet 8½ inches). My CRF300L has the Rally-Raid Level 1 suspension.
Thanks…have similar yss front and back suspension…great little bikes.Live in a slightly warmer country(S.Spain)also out off-road nearly every day😊
6 ft 2 though…
Does that wind screen help with the wind? At 70mph these bikes get pushed around like crazy
It helps a lot but it's still a small dualsport. For me more comfrotable travel speed is 50-60 mph
👌👍
Now that you have long distance comfort, are you going to upgrade the tank?
99% sure that I will. I also have a tuning episode coming where I will install all the 550 level 1 parts and test the acceleration difference 😊
Update: Acerbis upgrade and range test video is coming...
You kept the same settings on the camera?! No one does that right!
Yes. Manual settings on the drone too.
Why not buy the rally if you make the regular into a rally one? Not hate, just curious as I'm deciding between the two :)
Do you have tyres with spikes?
I have a winter riding gear video coming out friday. I'll show the tires there a bit too.
It's a good question and for me the decision was not super easy but here are few reasons why I went with the L version:
1. Rally is 1890 € more expensive in Finland
2. Rally is about 4 kg heavier than L. Not much but as the bike is already a bit heavy everything counts
3. I like the slimmer design of the L
4. Less plastics to brake on the L
5. I never liked the look of the Rally version. It looks weird in my opinion :) Not a huge issue but worth mentioning for sure.
Even though I installed the Rally Tower I still have a LOT cheaper bike with even better lights than the standard Rally version. Even if I change the tank to Acerbis (which is lighter btw) I still get a lighter and more affordable bike.
Would that be a bigger tank than the stock L? In Norway the price difference is similar. But the 2023 Rally was priced just 3000nok less than the 2024 L
However, the thing I noticed the most was how soft the suspension is, especially with a passenger. Stiffening that up might be in order@@PatchedBandit
Stock tank is 7.8 L on the CRF300L
Acerbis Fuel tank 14L Honda CRF300L
And CRF300 Rally has a stock 12.8 L
So the L will have a bigger tank with the Acerbis upgrade. And as far as I understand the hardware itself is lighter. Plus the fuel sits lower on the Acerbis tank so it should be slightly better balanced too.
Oh yeah and I put in Rally Raid Level 1 set on mine. I have a few videos about it here too: ua-cam.com/play/PLjuLZY6TnpPnQWrKL7vgN6eCmeAY5Ea4Z.html&si=Ze5HsPs8_RieX0UP
Hello, I am wondering, the tower is mounted onto the triple clamps in stead of directly to the chassis (as with the Rally). Do you feel that weight on the steering handle while manoeuvring?
Can't feel it at all. It's only about 1.7kg heavier than the stock light setup so the difference is fairly minor.
I have all the weights in the second install video description.
I also prefer this mounting as the light turns with my handlebars.
@@PatchedBandit, ok thanks for your feedback. Also am looking for a rally tower for my CRF300L and I am considering 3 brands: The men cave Adventure, the One adventure and the ARX. I was a bit worried about the weight. Looks very awesome by the way, enjoy it !
I will thanks! Its nice that there are options on the market and I have been very happy with mine so far. Havent found any downsides to mention other than the shipping cost is high on their online shop. I hope they add a more affordable (and slower) option later for penny pinchers like me 😆.
I'd give that a 10/10 for looks and as you said quality, I may get one for my bike (not a Honda) if they make one for it, or if one for another bike can be made to fit.
What was the weight difference between the OEM light and this?
+1.7kg
What are those mirrors?
PowerMadd 34289 Star Series/Trail Star Handguard Mirror Kit
@@PatchedBandit Thanks
What riding pants are you wearing?
I have video comimg friday where I go through all the gear I’m wearing here 😊
@@PatchedBandit thanks. I'll be watching 👍
get some hippo hands !!!!!
I got bar gloves but they are not the focus of this video so I didnt put them on even at these temps.
Im cold because I want you to see the setup better! ☝️😆
I hope you are saying the truth, because after watching your videos, I ordered the nav tower...
Had mine installed for about 5000km and still good! The metal parts and bolts have taken up a bit of surface rust so might be a good idea to coat them with something if you want to prevent it. But its nothing serious.
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