Tuned CRF300L vs KTM 690 Enduro R Quick Swap & Compare
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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I thought it would be fun to swap bikes and have a quick test ride for everyone to see with KTM 690 Enduro R owner riding the Tuned Honda CRF300L and vise versa. Here are some of the feedback @advseeker could give about the Honda and me about the KTM 690 from 2009.
This was a fun quick ride without any idea what would come of it but I think there may be some additional value to someone interested in either model so I posted it.
@advseeker (the KTM owner) is 188 cm (6 foot 2) and 100 kg (220 lb) so the CRF300L feels a bit small to him and I would hesitate to recommend this dualsport to anyone his size or bigger. It's rideable but the "cabin" on the Honda is tiny in comparison to the KTM 690 which has a lot more "room" for a bigger rider. @motorcycleadventures had the same 'issue' when he tested my bike but still loved to ride the little CRF 😁
For someone at my size at 174cm (5 foot 8.5) and 80 kg (180 lb) the Honda is a very comfortable place to sit but I can also easily ride the KTM.
What comes to the seat height most of the difference between the bikes on the video come from the fact that I have the lower Rally-Raid Level 1 suspension on the Honda. If you are taller than me go for the Level 2.
ps. tyres on my Honda are: Michelin Starcross 6
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Thanks for awesome riding day, it was really nice to test your Honda now as it is tuned to top. I'm sure you will have plenty of fun times ahead with it!
I’m on day 20 of a 23 day trip in the US on a 2019 690 Enduro S. We’ve done 3,600 miles leaving Boston down to Tennessee then up to the Canadian border on a mix of road, Trans America Trail and Backroad Discovery Routes. The trip is superb but the bike amazing. I have a Seat Concepts seat, Nomad rally tower, Rade Garage range extender and Kineo tubeless wheels. 6 or 7 hours a day is no issue and fuel economy staggering at 80 mpg (UK) the average. I’m keeping up with a Tiger 900 so not slow. With my Rade Garage range extender 300 miles is easily possible with a safe margin. The traction control is utterly superb and easily the best gizmo.
Sounds like you've found your unicorn adventurebike! Sounds like a trip I would like to do some day.
Been thinking about selling my 690 and getting a 300L.
I am in my mid 60’s and my 690 is a blast to ride. My issue is that bike allows me to write checks that may skills and body can’t cash…. I constantly find my self going much faster than usual and have had more that a few pucker moments on that bike
Thanks for posting this, it was very informative
It is an adrenaline machine for gravel but to be quite honest here I have just as much fun with the Honda especially now that it's slightly tuned. It gives me all the excitement me and my riding talent needs 😁
I'm still keeping the Tuareg for longer trips for now.. but I have even thought about going with 1 bike garage and only keeping the small little Honda. Thats how much I like it 😄
@@PatchedBandit yeah I still have my Tenere for longer trips.. so I think I will go ahead and sell the 690.
Now that I'm in my 60's as well, I understand what you're saying. I recently had major heart surgery, which deflated my delusions of invincibility, and decided to sell my Kove 450 Rally (fast and nimble) because it's much better than I am and the 300L seems less likely to kill me. I have a Triumph Scrambler 1200 xe that I use as my road bike and a 300L for dirt trails seems like a good idea. I just subscribed to this channel as I am interested in 300L content. Thank you.
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It's not the bike, it is the rider..
The new Austrian 700's with more effective counter-balancing are a step ABOVE the older versions. I'm hoping Pankl will be called upon to engineer a better transmission spread for these big singles like they did for the 250/350 six-speeds dirt bikes.
11:30 this is what my reaction is like when I rode the 690 for the first time as well. I fell in love. I had a 2010. Now im on a 2015. :) Fantastic bikes.
The edit was so well done, I actually thought the display goes out every now and then 😆
yeah theres some weird problem with the Honda screen 😂
@@PatchedBandit that´s the "Antii penalty mode" BUT it can be fixed in a real short amount of time 😀
Looks like a lot of fun!
Now that is called a fun ride ✌️
A lot of people complain about the vibration of the older 690's - the 2019+ bikes are much smoother apparently due to a second counterbalance shaft, but have lost some of that raw animal feel of the original 😊
I would have to ride both back to back but just from memory I can't say there is a big difference. The new bike did vibrate just the same if you ask me 😅
Here's the vid: ua-cam.com/video/XA-nRU___Zg/v-deo.html
We have tighter trails in Bavaria. The little power the CRF 300 makes is not a disadvantage over here. I would like a smooth transition from closed throttle to gas. Like my carburreted Transalp 600, so smooth. Made it easy to ride on ACT Croatia. Just coming back. But I see the temptation of KTM power ;-) Happy rides, Günter/Nürnberg
We have a lot better trails here too but unfortunately Antti didn't have time to ride any longer so this was a bit hastily made. We live hundreds of km away from each other and Antti was just passing by 😁
I don't miss the KTM power in the forest 99% of the time riding the Honda. With the Tuned Honda I'm actually most of the time not even using all the power it has to give now.
And as the Honda is a bit more suitable for someone my size and it is definitely more nimble I still do prefer the Honda in deep forest and technical tracks.
KTM690 could be a nice option for a parallel twin bike though.
@@PatchedBandit A good second bike. I really like that it's in such a good condition after all those years. Some people have excellent reliability on KTMs, others have trouble. Keeping my fingers crossed, Günter/Nürnberg
@@enduromotorradtouren Antti keeps good care of his bike himself. A lot of people neglect servicing 😄
Nice comparison. Would be also nice to do a comparison on a more technical road. Bumps, inclines, some rocks, tight turns... The lighter smaller Honda may have advantages. Maybe the ktms suspension and the low end grunt would have advantages.
Honda is definitely more nimble in technical stuff. We had very little time unfortunately but I might do an episode later from an actual Enduro track.
Both of us will find the limits of our cabapilities as a rider before either bike even breaks a sweat though 😂
@@PatchedBandit Understood, my 701 is far more capable than I am.
It seems like your friend got everything Adventure Spec :-)
I have a KTM 690 Enduro R, and I thought about trading for a lighter CRF 300 L Rally. But I’d have to spend a lot of $$$ to set it up to be anything near my KTM! 🙀
300 vs 690 ... not really fair to compare if power is a concern.
I am getting old, I sell my 690 and happy with CRF, dont get me wrong 690 is fun machine but my wife want to upgrade her car
What rally tower is that on the CRF300L?
Honda CRF300L Rally Tower Build: Unboxing (1/3)
ua-cam.com/video/44gJ4QlDw1g/v-deo.html
Thinking I need to do some similar tuning with my 300l. How is your low end now? I do ride it on slower technical trails and need to lift the front in numerous situations. Seems the stock bike while running out of steam in upper rpm's has decent low end.
With the dyno chart 550 performance provides for the 1.0 tune low end gains a very small boost but the upper rev range is drastically better.
So you have no penalty at any rev range even low end by doing the mod I did to my bike but you are not gonna gain a lot of low end either.
All my CRF episodes here: ua-cam.com/play/PLjuLZY6TnpPnQWrKL7vgN6eCmeAY5Ea4Z.html
To really improve low end you need to upp the compression to 11,5:1-12:1. Or install the 301cc Kit developed by Ari Henning, but you have to spend a bit of money....
What tune do you have on the 300L?
CRF300: ECU, Airbox & Exhaust Tune by 550 Performance
ua-cam.com/video/-rdtfHX3i6k/v-deo.html
550 TUNED Honda CRF300L Tested: How Fast is it?!
ua-cam.com/video/0Dh0g1QIY7A/v-deo.html
What kinda tyres is it you like? Did I miss something?
Description. My friend was the one talking about my tyres on the Honda.
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Michelin Starcross 6
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Looking for a new light dual sport and my issue is that a 300L with for example rally raid suspension is getting too close to a gasgas es 700 and the husqvarna 701 enduro considering the price.
8000 EUR vs 10500 EUR.
They are very different bikes too. If you are cross shopping between those options I would urge you to have a good long test ride on both before deciding.
Im sure your decision is much easier after riding both if you havent done so yet.