Interesting, but honestly, Curry's assumptions seem just as 'fudgy' as the original accounts. She finds lists for 7500 English and bumps it up to 11-12000; and French records of around 9000 paid troops (originally raised to relieve Harfleur) and assumes that's all there was, when its doubtful the French knights pouring into Agincourt (and the large numbers of personal retainers each brought with them) after the fall of Harfleur would have been included in the original paid up force. English numbers were also much reduced by previous fights and disease so the historical English headcount of around 6000 (out of the original 7500) seems more accurate. The French themselves record up to10000 French dead (the English say 11000) which outnumber the 9000 paid troops claimed - and there was no reason for the French to inflate the numbers of their own dead given the humiliation they'd suffered. And really, wouldn't the French nobility have simply collected and taken their dead home for burial rather than just toss them into mass graves?
Even Shakespeare has them taking home their dead-so it’s probably likely. Good thing there’s plenty of contemporary sources recording the battle academics would doubt it ever happened.
I remember reading a fantasy story once many years ago that was based on this battle and the religious history surrounding it, it always stuck with me and I planned to visit Agincourt one day. Thanks for the great video :)
14 15 20 21. Things have changed. Anybody can say anything, they can change the words although it's very interesting. I have a phone because I have to. I read shit because I as a country boy had access to books. Did the English win the battle. I'm glad this real history is still interested in. We all come from empires.
I watched "The King" on Netflix, King Henry the V's reign, or the beginning of it leading up to Agincourt, summed up in about an hr and a half (which is ridiculous) and it's crazy how movies like that get the historical facts so out of whack!! It was a good movie, don't get me wrong, but if you're looking for truth then that's not where I'd suggest you find it lol.
Lol can we also give some credit to the weather conditions though. Agincourt was not only a miscalculation by the french but it was particularly the mud that became their grave. If it had been dry the battle might have been very different.
Shouldn't someone install a memorial by the date in the wall to record that the remains placed at that spot are from some who died at Agincourt? Seems like the information will be lost again without more effort to record it.
it's too bad a lot of people believe that consecrated ground is only around a church, as all of the Earth is consecrated ground where earthquakes, hurricanes, fires, etc. have happened, where mountains have arisen and been worn away, where fungi and lichens have grown, where animals have lived, given birth and died, where ferns, trees and flowers have grown, where the seas, streams and oceans have fed the land, and insects have given up their bodies, too, to create our Earth. the whole of Earth is consecrated by life and the bones of earth. and to me, the blood of soldiers and people should be enough to consecrate the ground. All of the Earth is sacred and we are ruining it. be one of those who care - no matter where or how you contribute, it's important. and Keep safe :)🌷🌱🦋🐋🦘🦅🦎🌲🐾
I find it crazy that the archeologists dug more than one plots that had no artifacts from *any* time period. Just dirt and maybe a few pieces of brick if they were lucky. What are the chances?
i dont know, the French had such a long time to recover the dead.. transport them home to their castles or where they came from.. to bury them honorably
That wasn't as easy or as straightforward as you think. In the days before embalming and refrigeration, bodies had to be buried quickly. By the time the families heard about the death of their relative and traveled to the site of the battle, they wouldn't even have been able to find the body among the thousands of other corpses much less be able to identify the body after days or even weeks of exposure to the elements.
@@philipwebb960 If, as it was said, the nobility were wearing their finery as if they were ready for jousting, such finery had their colors and emblems embroidered all over. Even a rotting corpse would have been recognizable by its clothes. I agree with tr0nicson about the noblemen having been recovered from the battlefield.
These are fantastic docs, But you guys really need to sort out the subtitles. Angkor instead of Agincourt, I would love to use these docs as videos for my students. But with these subtitles it's impossible
Very interesting, but at the same time very disappointing. They did very little archaeological research themselves. No Geophysics, test pits etc etc. For what they found, the battle could have been a myth.
so many millions of individuals. so many dead. we live in a world of the dead. and so we will go eventually. the march towards eventual personal extinction.................................LOLOL
You'd think, Anne Curry, with all her knowledge and research would at least pronounce Agincourt (g as zh, silent t) correctly, rather than with the emphasis on the g and t.
The music is mixed far too loud for how quiet they speak. It'd be different if they were standing and using lapel Mic's but they're clearly sitting in quiet soundstages talking at conversation volumes. Then mixing dramatic instrumental over it
@@LetsTalkAboutPrepping well the irrelevance is an opinion, just as you first specified. Personally I found it really interesting and I thought the intro was great. I'll lose interest in this series quickly though if they keep NOT digging shit up.
Interesting, but honestly, Curry's assumptions seem just as 'fudgy' as the original accounts. She finds lists for 7500 English and bumps it up to 11-12000; and French records of around 9000 paid troops (originally raised to relieve Harfleur) and assumes that's all there was, when its doubtful the French knights pouring into Agincourt (and the large numbers of personal retainers each brought with them) after the fall of Harfleur would have been included in the original paid up force. English numbers were also much reduced by previous fights and disease so the historical English headcount of around 6000 (out of the original 7500) seems more accurate. The French themselves record up to10000 French dead (the English say 11000) which outnumber the 9000 paid troops claimed - and there was no reason for the French to inflate the numbers of their own dead given the humiliation they'd suffered. And really, wouldn't the French nobility have simply collected and taken their dead home for burial rather than just toss them into mass graves?
Relatively few of tbe French were actually nobile.
Even Shakespeare has them taking home their dead-so it’s probably likely. Good thing there’s plenty of contemporary sources recording the battle academics would doubt it ever happened.
@@philipwebb960 you were there, huh?
@@feralblueeIt's not like it was a major historical event or anything.
I remember reading a fantasy story once many years ago that was based on this battle and the religious history surrounding it, it always stuck with me and I planned to visit Agincourt one day. Thanks for the great video :)
So glad I found this channel, it’s very informative and entertaining!
When are they going to find the treasure of Oak Island though???
Me too. I'm obsessed.
14 15 20 21. Things have changed. Anybody can say anything, they can change the words although it's very interesting. I have a phone because I have to. I read shit because I as a country boy had access to books. Did the English win the battle. I'm glad this real history is still interested in. We all come from empires.
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I watched "The King" on Netflix, King Henry the V's reign, or the beginning of it leading up to Agincourt, summed up in about an hr and a half (which is ridiculous) and it's crazy how movies like that get the historical facts so out of whack!! It was a good movie, don't get me wrong, but if you're looking for truth then that's not where I'd suggest you find it lol.
Anne Curry is a wonderful woman and our understanding of what happened there is so much better off because of her.
Lol can we also give some credit to the weather conditions though. Agincourt was not only a miscalculation by the french but it was particularly the mud that became their grave. If it had been dry the battle might have been very different.
Would love more videos like this
The simple explanation of never finding artifacts or burial trenches is that haven’t found the actual battle site.
Just like at Hastings.
Shouldn't someone install a memorial by the date in the wall to record that the remains placed at that spot are from some who died at Agincourt? Seems like the information will be lost again without more effort to record it.
My ancestors fought with Henry on white horses at Agincourt.
it's too bad a lot of people believe that consecrated ground is only around a church, as all of the Earth is consecrated ground where earthquakes, hurricanes, fires, etc. have happened, where mountains have arisen and been worn away, where fungi and lichens have grown, where animals have lived, given birth and died, where ferns, trees and flowers have grown, where the seas, streams and oceans have fed the land, and insects have given up their bodies, too, to create our Earth. the whole of Earth is consecrated by life and the bones of earth. and to me, the blood of soldiers and people should be enough to consecrate the ground. All of the Earth is sacred and we are ruining it. be one of those who care - no matter where or how you contribute, it's important.
and Keep safe :)🌷🌱🦋🐋🦘🦅🦎🌲🐾
I find it crazy that the archeologists dug more than one plots that had no artifacts from *any* time period. Just dirt and maybe a few pieces of brick if they were lucky. What are the chances?
Good, but a frustrating end. Where be dem bones?
i dont know, the French had such a long time to recover the dead.. transport them home to their castles or where they came from.. to bury them honorably
That wasn't as easy or as straightforward as you think. In the days before embalming and refrigeration, bodies had to be buried quickly. By the time the families heard about the death of their relative and traveled to the site of the battle, they wouldn't even have been able to find the body among the thousands of other corpses much less be able to identify the body after days or even weeks of exposure to the elements.
@@philipwebb960 Northern France in late October can be very cold.
@@philipwebb960 If, as it was said, the nobility were wearing their finery as if they were ready for jousting, such finery had their colors and emblems embroidered all over. Even a rotting corpse would have been recognizable by its clothes. I agree with tr0nicson about the noblemen having been recovered from the battlefield.
Whoop whoop! Loving this channel!
truth in the saying...we will always forget, and we will always be condemed to repeat it....sad....
That must have been very deflating to find a pipe.
Wouldn't surprise me if this battle didn't even happen
See, history I find interesting
he doesn't find jack sh......
Even more, he never did any real archeology.
Anyone here who loves King Henry V NOT because of Shakespeare?
The lands around all seem to be farm fields...why not try some ground penetrating radar thereabouts?
The documentary is probably about a decade old now, the technology would've been too expensive back then I guess?
I wanted to know about the dead, its probably mis-titled
Thought we'd find out if King Henry slaughtered the French prisoners or not. Oh well.
No one has ever found the battle site......or where they are buried.. it is only conjecture that some were buried at the church......
These are fantastic docs, But you guys really need to sort out the subtitles. Angkor instead of Agincourt, I would love to use these docs as videos for my students. But with these subtitles it's impossible
Very interesting, but at the same time very disappointing. They did very little archaeological research themselves. No Geophysics, test pits etc etc. For what they found, the battle could have been a myth.
What a gloomy looking place
so many millions of individuals. so many dead. we live in a world of the dead. and so we will go eventually. the march towards eventual personal extinction.................................LOLOL
So what did we learn folks? Fack all.
You'd think, Anne Curry, with all her knowledge and research would at least pronounce Agincourt (g as zh, silent t) correctly, rather than with the emphasis on the g and t.
A bit exaggeration on the story but oh well. It's entertaining :D thumbs up!
Well, that was a whole lot of nothing.
I liked the video, what I could hear of it. The audio is not good at all.
It's your computer/speakers - the audio quality is just fine.
@@hannahpumpkins4359 this is the only video where the sounds goes in and out, I live on you tube.
The music is mixed far too loud for how quiet they speak. It'd be different if they were standing and using lapel Mic's but they're clearly sitting in quiet soundstages talking at conversation volumes. Then mixing dramatic instrumental over it
ah. Sound is low.
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**Welsh archers
What a let down; I was expecting a find.
This repeats itself at ~20:00 in. What's up with that? 👎👎👎
Well, aside from the obligatory shots of historical revision and cultural pessimism,we've learned nothing,found nothing.
The over dramatization really put me off. I quit after 1 minute 47 seconds
Its called a documentary...go play video games or watch Gladiator because you sound really stupid complaing that a documentary has too much talking 😆
me there's a difference between listing facts and playing up individual aspects that are irrelevant
@@LetsTalkAboutPrepping well the irrelevance is an opinion, just as you first specified. Personally I found it really interesting and I thought the intro was great. I'll lose interest in this series quickly though if they keep NOT digging shit up.
The deserted art especially regret because chauffeur postsynaptically cry minus a busy town. cautious, used mistake
right- whatever you say 😏 LOL