It feels like there’s something good in here… - AYANEO Slide
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- UPDATE: The original video was privated because it turns out the Slide DOES have a touchscreen, but the unit we were sent did not, nor is it mentioned anywhere on AYANEO's website. Here's a new copy of the video with a correction added!
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The handheld PC market is getting competitive which means you have to do more and more to stick out from the other options available. AYANEO's new Slide, however, takes a page from 2002 with its slide-out keyboard functionality. With decent specs, but some missing features, does Linus think this is worth the price?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 A+ Packing and why a keyboard matters
1:23 What's in the box?
2:06 Ports/Buttons
3:43 The tilting screen
4:35 LABS display test results
5:11 Sponsor - Manscaped
5:59 The fan and performance modes
7:15 Playing Doom Eternal and talking temps
8:54 Speaker impressions and some display issues
9:11 RGB and quick settings
10:42 Playing Cyberpunk 2077 and fan noise
11:40 LABS battery test results
12:46 Pricing and LABS performance test results
13:10 Update from AYANEO and the slide mechanism
13:54 Outro - Наука та технологія
UPDATE: The original video was privated because it turns out the Slide DOES have a touchscreen, but the unit we were sent did not, nor is it mentioned anywhere on AYANEO's website. Here's a new copy of the video with a correction added!
Why are you still telling people that yours didn't have a touchscreen?
@@ProfWereW because theirs didnt
@@ProfWereW You can only review what you have in hand. If they didnt mention it people would flood the comments asking why they didnt test it.
You realized that just after 5 minutes uploading the vid! Nice
nicely handled. Love the AI voice, for just listeners
It not being mentioned that the screen is a touchscreen ANYWHERE in the marketing is baffling.
@@wizpizzthey do if they are going to send a pre-production model missing a basic feature. Absolute amateurs.
99% chance they weren't planning on it but have decided to add one due to backlash.
@@wizpizznah, most modern handhelds have a touch screen. The absolute majority of gaming pc's (from 2021 or not) don't.
@@wizpizzall what has what? If you mean laptop 99% of gaming laptops arent touch sceeen, most people’s PCs dont have touch screen monitor, what you on about???
@@wizpizzIf you list hardware specs you list EVERYTHING.
Steam does it for the Steam Deck, Asus does it for the ROG Ally, AYN does it for the Odin 2.
If the demo unit isn't even feature complete and the marketing makes no word of the touchscreen either I would at least wait for a review of a production unit before ordering. Props to LMG for biting the bullet here.
They didn't bite the bullet, they were given this pre-production unit for free in exchange for review
@@realname7749 I assume what he meant with biting the bullet is LTT having to delete, edit, and reupload the video.
@@jokujatkavaan6396 LTT has obviously restructured the way they want to be seen as a company with their videos. They did not delete the video it says in the description that they privated the former video and all they did was make a minor change and re-uploaded a company of the size that this is this is not a major issue for them
@@realname7749biting the bullet as is "losing the viewership momentum". They took it down with 100Ks of views. Those are people that were the type to watch it straight away and get the algorithm to boost the video. After re-uploading, they're not going to rewatch the same video, so the algorithm sees it as a video people don't want to watch and doesn't promote it
@@realname7749its not a review, it's an unboxing.
The fact that it has a touchscreen makes 10,000x more sense and now the product makes sense lol
Not being oled is crazy
@@downtownfridays8953 having a reliable screen is crazy
That tilt will fail so fast with a touchscreen, it's already wobbling in this video.
@@kiloneie It would fail fast without a touchscreen anyway. Just have to look at the Nintendo DS. MANY people had hinge issues and the screen just flopped around after a few months.
@@TetraSky Then it's life expectancy will be REAL short...
To everyone asking why it's "re-uploaded". They received one without touch screen, but apparently it does have a touch screen.
Dejavo 😂
@MrSaid88 strange translation there
@@MrSaid88 I think you mean Déjà vu.
Yeah no shit he said that in a video
@@comrade_grigory2133 No, what they're saying is that in the original upload all they had was saying there wasn't a touchscreen. They had to add the AI voice saying they've been told full production will be touchscreen.
My question is why didn't AYANEO let them know this was a preproduction model with the added fixes to come with the production model in the first place? They most likely were already aware of said issues with the quickness of response time. It just leaves a bad first impression an makes LTT look silly, and having them go through this correction process. It's nice to see these updates, but probably could have been avoided in the first place.
They did let them know. The later note about the screen turning off had a note that Ayaneo told them that this was a preproduction sample was included in the first video.
Especially when Linus has spoken so highly about this company so many times, and then what they do is they just disrespect him by not sending him a production model and then not telling him about certain features that differ between the unit sent and the production model.
@@the_undead “ disrespect him by sending him a preproduction unit” dude touch grass. Prerelease Review units are almost always preproduction.
@@the_undeadain't that deep
It's more of a pre-pre-production prototype if it has placeholders for major components such as a random screen that engineering happened to have that's non-touch and turns off randomly every now and then. It's certainly not ready to be reviewed because the reviewer won't get a feel for how the thing feels to use when it's missing a major input device.
I REALLY appreciate the change LTT has made to including corrected information to their videos and updates during editing.
Oh yeh, that correction was a high quality... Not ! Why can't they re upload it with a correction instead of a rubbish computer voice and text I have to read. This channel 6 months ago said they would "do better with more content and less mistakes" all I'm seeing is less content and more mistakes but then corrected.
@@squeekymouse89 Do you realize that the product’s manufacturer gave them a feature-incomplete demo model and no mention that the production model would include a touch screen, let alone any mention of it including a touch screen that they could have found by searching elsewhere?
I've always wondered why windows 10 had a feature for allowing xinput devices to control apps which has only ever driven me nuts but this seems like the one scenario it actually makes sense and is useful lol
oh yeah, true lol.
Xbox also uses a version of Windows that shares the UWP app platform, so this features allows you to control Xbox UWP apps with a controller, and as a byproduct means it also works on desktop UWP apps because it's the same application model
Good job on the correction! The text to speech was a good idea so listeners or visually impaired ppl can hear it.
tbh, I've noticed an upswing of accessibility like that since a recent "What If..." episode that was in Mohawk and all subbed. There's no obvious option for dubs, but a dubbed episode is available in extras. Started a whole discussion about those who are reading impaired, or adhd like myself.
I will admit, I am a total sucker for anything that slides. The whole sliding screen to reveal a keyboard is awesome. It reminds me of those windows XP Sony Vaios. I am a proud owner of a PSP go and every time I use the sliding mechanism my regrets of the purchase fizzle away. It's a cool idea and it's really awesome!
Check out the GPD Win 4 if you like one of these in PSP format
@@Rashimotosan those are riddled with QC issues and cause failures that are a nightmare to get fixed
I have the Legion Go… The larger screen is the reason. I had trouble reading text on the screen in some games with the Ally.
My lady loves the Ally though, and has been using it rather than her desktop with a 4070 Ti…
Living the good life eh
It's retro like a Sidekick! Looks like a nice screen.
@5:00 perfect correction with a pause to the video i also love the voice you chose. as someone who games and 90% listens to the videos this was a great upgrade from the just putting a note on the screen.
The packaging for this thing is adorable! VHS really brings me back.
What a weird amount of shade thrown against the Legion Go considering incomplete review units and miscommunication are something regular with AyaNeo
What shade was thrown at it ?
"Although I don't know how many people are buying that one."
Is that it ? Only thing I caught but on listening to it again it seems like Linus is saying it in such a way that it's a statement and not a dig at the product.
He does have a point. The Steam Deck and the Ally beat it to market. While it seems like a good handheld Lenovo's name doesn't carry as much weight in the gaming space as Asus and Steam. Anybody who wanted a handheld PC probably already picked up a Deck or an Ally which leaves the question "how many people are buying the Lenovo ?"
@@Gatorade69He did come across as very dismissive to me about the Legion Go as well. I don’t get the it either as it has it’s own unique offerings.
Agreed, also thought that was weird.
@@Gatorade69smh just delete the reply bro fr stop just stop🤫
@@Fraudnando Nope, kid.
The lack of capitalization, punctuation and the emoji just adds sooooo much to this conversation on top of that very well worded point you made.
amazing to see you are taking this so serious even when this "mistake" was not your fault.
I love that it was properly corrected by removing the old video, not just putting a note up on the screen that ill never see because i usually just listen.
It looks nice... But 6" display just won't cut it for me. After using the Legion Go at nearly 9", I have trouble going back to the Steam Deck at 7"... -She
Sticking to the procedures when major errors are found. Great stuff.
I feel like we are going to eventually see a proper merge between phone and portable PC. Not a gaming phone that can handle crappy apps better than a regular phone, a phone capable of playing games on steam but is also a phone.
Dam. Good idea. Windows Phone would make a COMEBACK for sure. Lol
Apart from windows, I agree, using a steam deck made me realize how sick of windows I actually am. Apart from that, a phone capable of PC games? Count me in.
We would need a way to run x86 programs on ARM cpus without losing performance before that would be viable
thanks for description. I was watching and interested, about at thementioning the lack of touchscreen part, when the video suddenly stopped.
Glad for the re upload. I was watching the first version, paused it, and it disappeared when I came back to watch it.
I have the legion go Linus and honestly it's amazing. It has all of the capabilities of my desktop and I'm able to plug it in very easily to my GPU if I want to but I haven't had any reason to yet. Honestly I ended up pretty much giving my desktop to my girlfriend while I use The legion Go.
Since your review of it it has had a few software updates and it runs a lot better along with the fact that I changed my frame buffer to 8 GB for the video card in the BIOS which made a big difference. And I will be soldering 32 GB of RAM onto it in the near future
Go’s the GOAT if you want to built your own eGPU or play text-heavy games. Have a 4070ti with mine. It’s like a Switch Pro 4. Go solves the problem that most PC games weren’t made for a small screen by giving you a big wonderful screen.
I tried watching the thing where Linus looked at the legion go and he was complaining about the most basic things. I had no issues with anything right out of the box it’s amazing and the screen is the perfect size being not to big but perfect for games like baldurs gate 3 or what ever
I hope they keep it up with Lenovo gaming handhelds!
I absolutely love mine. Especially with the new driver update.
I’ve had my go since release and I love it.
This I love mine so much, I understand it’s not for everyone but it’s so great.
Nice to know, thank you for the correction update
I bought the LEG and I've not regretted it at all.
Legion go?
Just want to say that this video is really well presented - especially the first two minutes
I like the review.
A little suggestion:
The Steam Deck seems to be the reference point for performance and it would be amazing to add it in the graphs for comparisons. Yes, I can look up numbers, but it is difficult to find a benchmark with the exact same settings, resolution , etc.
Especially in regards to battery life. What put me off all the Windows handhelds was how much shorter the battery life was if you wanted to use any of the extra power on the go.
Love the in video edits, they actually add a little to the video since they're kinda funny.
Yes, more thicc handhelds and tablets please. Big battery and beefy cooling.
I don't understand why most manufacturers aim for thinness when it doesn't even fit in a pocket in the first place.
Ergonomic, heavy is not ergonomic. So far there is two kind of PC Handheld user, those who using it in dekstop mode (because it's lighter than laptop) and those who actually using it handheld. Manufacture choose to cater towards those who actually want to play it handheld, hence smaller, lighter, and underpower was the choice. Try wielding Legion go without lap or table for support for 30 minutes and you will know it's too heavy and unergonomic, they are pushing handheld concept to the limit. At that point just get a laptop, yeah they are a bit expensive but they are more powerful than a handheld will be at current years.
because they arent building it for the basement dwellers, it needs to be a reasonable shape and size
they fit in my jnco's just fine.
@@leakahoshi5049they said thick not big. This thing is perfect
@@leakahoshi5049Disagree, in my experience, thicker and curves / grips to hold on to has always been better for me in terms of ergonomics. Everyone is different, though.
I love that hall effect sensors are making a comeback. I hope that's the trend going forward
that sliding monitor is a huge advantage, probably one that people dont realize till they use it, gonna save a lot of necks
Extremely happy to see this video re-uploaded and not just edited or commented under, I watched the original and was disappointed in this not having a touch screen, this being re-uploaded brings it more to the attention of the daily viewers. I still wish they had actually shot a new insert instead of the voiceover, but a great step in the right direction and WAY more transparent.
Really appreciate you showing off the ergonomic advantage, it's terrible to try and play handheld games where your wrists are in radial deviation for a prolonged period, really good way to get more tendinitis.
It's a second time i watch LTT do a preview on these early Ayaneo handhelds that barely function. Why even send units with major design flaws to the media? They certainly don't inspire confidence in the product.
That last video just tipped the scales towards just getting the ally.
To gain more people "join" the campaign, unlike other stable companies, they need money to progress.
Sending samples to reviewer kinds of cheap targeted marketing with disclaimer "pre production unit, any bug/cons will be solved later" (maybe not).
@@FaridRudiansyah I guess it works well enough for them since they are still in business. Personally i got a very bad impression from the thing breaking on camera and then finding more bad things in the comments. Like dodgy customer support.
I really liked the post-production info edits!
Thanks for the re-upload!
I wish one of these companies would just remake the formfactor of the "New 3ds XL". I don't need my handheld to compete with a gaming pc. It can be last gen specs. But I want that clam shell that throws into a bag easily without scratching the screen or snagging a joystick. The adjustable angle screen built into the design. Slap a modern phone screen into it and it would be the perfect device.
Aya neo is releasing the aya neo flip. Is around the same. Size of this with a dual. Screen (second one smaller) 3ds like form factor. That's the one worth my hype atm
They're also producing the Flip DS, right? It's basically a soupped up DS.
But I get your point, modern specs would kill the battery quick.
GPD win mini?
@@mattrs1 Nobody is liking that second screen, too small, very far removed. And the screen is already wobbly in this video, imagine what's gonna happen after some use, especially if using the touch screen in the tilted position. This won't be such a problem on GPD Win 4, and theres the GPD Win Mini if you are planning on using the keyboard more(all the controls being in the way on Win 4).
I'm really loving the look and size of the device!
The mouse and controller function fighting could possibly be a steam profile setup for joystick to mouse control.
I just had this issue myself from a previous controller profile before steam supported it fully.
Reminds me of an extra large Motorola Sidekick. Definitely helps with the issue of having to add text.
keyboard reminds me of my enV Touch from like 2010. Loved that phone!
It reminds me a little of my old sidekick I used to love
I almost left a comment yesterday saying it not having a touch screen would have been a deal breaker. It does having a touch screen really does change the whole video.
Them cutting out the multiple times of complaining about it not having a touchscreen changed the video. The video got shorter by a few minutes
Wow, crazy that their unit was just incomplete, leading to a very different over all impression.
Very easy for companies to just say "ah that will be fixed in the production version" to any issues found with pre-production units. I reckon LMG should stop covering pre-production units.
@@politta They were sent it, given the ok to cover it, and probably asked nicely to cover it by the company, why would they have any reason not to. I honestly can't see how people can put the blame on lmg here.
Love the packaging and the size of the device
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lol thank you for clarifying on the touch screen!!!!
3:56 There's an updated version of the GPD Win 4 that uses the 7840u.
Linus only reviewed the 6800u version, so I understand the mistake.
Thanks for the AUDIO advice of having touchcreen, i was cleaning i was about to be upset that the ayaneo didnt had a touchscreen
I really like the way it looks.
I was never one of those LTT nay sayers in the first place but seeing these videos get touched up after upload so fast is something I appreciate. You can never account for EVERYTHING right off the bat but it takes balls to drop a video and reload it and I appreciate that LTT integrity is that high.
Naysayers? You mean fans asking for accountability? Asking Linus to improve himself is not naysaying. Criticism helps all
I like the idea of the flip up screen to reveal a keyboard, but something tells me in actual daily driving the unit and extended use will mean either hinge failures, or ribbon cable displacement/disconnection. Honestly feel like the latter is the issue you guys probably got with the screen at the end there.
Commenting to support since you guys reuploaded :)
I bought a Legion Go! I love it!
the tilting slide-up screen is awesome, now i wish it could tilt a bit more
Thanks for unlisting and correcting this. Although I feel like this is clearly AYANEO's mistake, still great to have the video show the correct information.
They really trying to bring the sidekick back. I'm here for it.
This is a wise choice. Instead of letting the misinformation stay in many people's mind who watched it yesterday like I did, re-upload, add the description and the extra info in the video. Very nice way to handle this! :)
Seems like common courtesy to give an explanation. Praise seems a bit excessive.
There's so many people critising them, in my opinion over the top, that when they do something right it should be pointed out & applauded.
@@Kirsty_McKay I can understand that sentiment.
Legion GO is a powerhouse once you set it up and go into BIOS settings to incredibly battery charge speed etc. Super fun device yes heavy but it’s a great feeling
The interlude about touch screen was funny 😂
I liked the way that correction went, and the inclusion of the whole segment with Linus reacting to not having a touchscreen in his hands. I thought its a great way to handle that its a review unit and different from what will hit my hands. Though I thought the whole thing last year was blown out of proportion so...
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I so very much like that it has hall effect joysticks. How else could you buy a unit with non-swappable sticks?
Great to see LMG trying to correct mistakes in their videos, even if it's caused by a third party.
smh
Trying and failing
@@ProfWereW how did they fail, exactly. please, explain it in detail
Even if this wasn't a complete mistake by them because they were sent one without any touchscreen and it isn't even anywhere on ayaneo's website
@@deadair32101 it's a troll
The packaging actually resembles more a BetaMax tape bcs of the stripes in orange and purple, much like the Dynamicron tapes.
"A little VHS box" I knew Linus was short, but I guess now we have a frame of reference for exactly how small he is!
I very much like that you have communicated with Ayaneo, to clear up some problems. I find it very cool that you guys take the criticism seriously.
What a great Gru impression
The thickness reminds me of the old Sega Nomad.
I haven't seen any of these that make me seriously question or regret my Steamdeck purchase yet, but I'm glad there is competition.
Same. here's hoping for more competitive hardware.
Legion Go is much better than my steam deck
don't know man, my steam deck just works, no weird ui glitchs or shenanigans
The Steam Deck effectively popularized the format; most of these companies kinda owe Valve for pushing it to the masses. What I'm sad about is that unlike Valve they all use Windows.
@@amunak_ Really, the not having windows is actually probably my biggest gripe with the steam deck. There are a lot of games I would love to be able to run on the steam deck that don't use steam or just don't really run well on steam deck.
Finally the gpd win4 has competition. I love this vita-esqe design with a keyboard.
You should do a video on the Odin 2, this thing is a beast for retro-emulation
that packaging is a keeper
I can’t wait to see you guys checking out the gpd win mini man that thing is nice!!! I love mine
How does the sleep/lock function work though?
Does it have some sort of lower power, screen off mode, like a phone would?
I usually get calls from my desktop, rather than paying for cell services.
Would be nice to still have the ringer able to go off when the the screen is off.
Ooof, good catch. Gotta wonder why they didn't highlight that in all-caps, all-bold 120 typeface, in their press sheet. PRODUCTION UNIT WILL HAVE TOUCHSCREEN.
Sliding displays and keyboards are my first widget spinner :D LOVE THEM
10/10 for correcting the touch issue, regardless of blame. U guys have always been upfront and honest, and you're always getting better
good looking design, i love it
The GPD win 4 had a 7840U refresh and they all 7840U models basically function the same. Though the Win4 and Win Max 2 have better end battery life when full power stressing
That nostalgia layout hits hard
This form factor is cool!
Welcome back chonky plastic keyboards from the 2000s, we've missed you
I wonder how fast the push-mechanism fails on this thing. And i would hope they release their software (overlay, special buttons, etc) for linux, so you had a real steam deck competitor (anything that runs windows isn’t). Great to see companies push these devices, it’s always good to have options 👍
Ah the good old fix
The most unique handheld gaming device yet, which looks exactly the same as GPD handheld gaming sliders.
this must be so nostalgic for linus
cool retro gaming handheld
I'm happy with my 7640u gpd win 4, the PSP aesthetic is my thing
We have now returned to smartphone technology from 2010 lmao. I miss my phone with the slideout QWERTY keyboard
i'm so much more interested now that i know it has a touchscreen but it's so strange usually preproduction units wouldn't have such a vital feature missing
its more likely that it has a touchscreen and the ribbon cable was nicked in the build process, hence the screen freak out in the video.
i genuinely missed t this kind of content from linus talking about revolutionary devices
I love all of the handhelds even though I've never touched any of them. The deck, the Aly, the go... they are all cool and I'd love to have one. I just stream to a 15 inch laptop on my nightstand lol
Not just only for games. These devices are very midi mappable as if bolting a Floyd Rose whammy bar to it, gradiently pitch bending notes and other real time adjustable effects, a viable performance vehicle for musical landscaping that is very mobile and comfortable as a Fender Strat with the ergonomics of form factor.
Install a Digital Audio Workstation interface, a VST wall of Marshall stacks, and you've got a concert waiting to happen.
I have the GPD Win3 version of this slider screen. Sure, my eyes have bugged out somewhat and often rely on memory of the tiny micro sized button arrays within running a DAW type interface, though can send it to a larger screen or wearable AR/VR glasses and keep your right to mobility mode activated.
the sidekick vibes are high on this one
Remind me of that sidekick phone back in the day.
The T-mobile sidekick making a comeback i see .😊 sweet
Why so much shade for the Legion Go?
Been loving mine😊
I feel like the video correction was a good way to mention and fix the (I wouldnt call it error cause you didnt make a mistake AYA did) problem. I sadly am more of a fan for bigger screens but the tilting screen and performance are very cool!
Love my Steam Deck Oled. Great for my lunch breaks at work.