6 Minutes of Questionably Useful Radar Knowledge | War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
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0:00 - Go watch the guide on DEFYN's channel
0:31 - Manual cursor control
1:07 - Slewing scan pattern left/right without manual cursor control
1:30 - Manual antenna elevation
1:51 - Exceptions to the asterisk
2:14 - Lock target key shortcuts
3:01 - IFF limitations
3:12 - Radar gunsights with adjustable range scales
3:31 - MTI/LD auto-switch
3:52 - Sapphire 23 "differences"
4:00 - F-8E IRST
4:25 - Locking from F-14B's TCS view
4:50 - F-14's terrible ACM and a workaround
5:13 - Pulse-Doppler at 9.7
5:26 - Mirage 2000-5's five radar modes
5:39 - Radar gun targeting with IRST
5:58 - Switching lock types
6:12 - Outro - Ігри
Damn this video is quite good
We should make a radar guide together
4:25 regarding F-14 TCS, what is missing is forced illumination of a target visible and tracked by TCS, but not visible on radar. Basically anti-notching measure, even if radar loses track but target remains visible by TCS, it should be able to keep it illuminated by radar to guide the SARH.
It annoys me that this wasn't properly implemented
As someone who enjoys flying sim with the F-8E, the IRST is definitely very useful as I don't use the 9Cs in sim, and having a way to spot targets in other ways than eyeball mk.1 without giving radar pings is very useful
At what range does it work? I tried the F8 in sim yesterday and it was awful because the radar almost never locked
It’s not the radar, it’s infrared search and track
4:46 "I'm not sure why you would want to lock this way"
It provides the canon lead indicator without providing the enemy with an RWR warning, and it can't be notched or flared which is very useful in a dogfight. It also tracks the target automatically without you having to manually which is especially useful in sim because the enemy gets marked on your HUD
Great collaberation and video Jaek, both these videos will be useful to throw at people instead of explaining things myself.
Glad you have another reference to send to people when they ask for reason #411591 why the french F-8E sucks 🙏
@@jaek_898 B-b-but magics!
1:05 I found that if you practice it can be quite quick to lock like that and also makes it easier to get the right guy when you have 5+ people on your radar
Having constant elevation makes it simple, but it somewhat limits you since without it, you can look at the sky while keeping your nose down, helps with spotting targets and phoenix missiles, you yeet your radar up, look for them, then point the nose up for extra range then go cranking
But it is a bit wacky, but can work well at longer ranges
Helps when you're the one lobbing pheonix missiles as you can climb at an optional angle and using the elevation keys look for targets higher up without having to change nose angle . One the pheonix missiles have been fired switch back to constant elevation again
Personally I wish that there would be an option to keep the elevation you set as with the 'constant elevation' setting off radar is stabilized, which messes up the radar elevation when you make vertical maneuvers.
(Basically I want the constant elevation with ability to set radar elevation manually instead of current stabilized mode)
@@aleksanderf4672 this^^ That's how it would be IRL too, you'd be able to switch between a radar that's stabilized to the horizon or a radar that's stabilized to your jet. Either/or just isn't good enough imo
I've been using manual cursor control for the longest time, I find it much more convenient to use, expecially with TWS and I'm always able to lock the exact target I want expecially when theres a lot of trash (such as AI) around. Generally I just find it faster and more precise. Give it a second try, with some practice it's amazing. I don't use manual tilt too much but it has practical application in being able to spot targets above you while staying level, so you can lock targets without climbing to contrail altitude
I wished they improved it so I could override cyclic control with manual cursor control so I could have the best of both worlds (especially for TWS)
@@jaek_898 yes but also a hotkey for switching between stabilized radar and manual attitude. I use manual for long range spotting and phoenix, but once you get into dogfights its a huge liability
@@jaek_898 That would be nice, although I think I would still stick to manual, too many times I had to fumble with radar once it decided to select wrong target initially in cycle mode not to mention habit, been using manual for over a year now lol and it is how it works in DCS too, more or less
And yeah, hotkey for manual/stabilised elevation would be an absolute godsend
The F104 asa has an even more useless acm mode, with a max range of 2 miles
I just got home from a 5 hour two way trip to an airshow and air museum and I come back and jaek posted a new video, God I love life. Thanks for making a great day for me Jaek!❤
OMFG thank you for telling me about the cyclic targeting, I totally forgot about this. Manual mode was really useful for learning the Aim54s.
Having a radar cursor is useful when you are trying to select a specific target between a group of targets at long range. I do this at the start of every match in my f16aj. Sometimes the cycle button only cycles between 2 aircraft and it gets really annoying sometimes.
and at short range you can just use ACM works about the same as the cycle thing
Love you for the AC:X soundtrack, you sound like the perfect radio announcer/AWACS.
Just noticed that you used the Ace Combat X "briefing music", love it! :D
I watched the Defyn video and didn't even know you had a channel, thought you were a Discord friend or something. Glad the algorithim showed me your AIM-9 video and I subbed!
great video! thank you so much!
As someone who basicly never played war Thunder this video was about a magic man casting diffrent spells on me, its sound fun tho.
The Mirage 2000-5F having the best radar in the game and only 2 Super 530D's and 4 missiles total is the most french thing ever. WHERE'S OUR MICAHS!!!
some of these are really why WT should go the more simplified controls. A lot of fine tune stuff can work in full sims like DCS but really has no place in more action oriented arcady game that plays around with simulation for extra detail but should really avoid it in the controls department .
Stuff like this makes me wish that twin seater planes were co-op having a dedicated WSO/RSO play with.
Doesn't need to be co-op; I wish that backseat AI crew had functions in more advanced aircraft. Things like TV guided missiles should be able to track targets using the skills of your crew, rather than being forced to do it manually while also flying the plane. Same with regaining radar locks or even spotting enemy aircraft in sim.
Hearing the background music makes me happy.
Thank you! Just earned a sub.
Jaek really ballin with this new video series set ong
also in the next DEFYN video have a skit where you cut in for like 2 seconds to say how to pronounce your name smh
You can actually use the F-14B's camera for gun lead without using radar - and it also doesn't get confused by ground or chaff.
On the manual cursor control: I like to have this enabled, and here’s why. As you move up in jets and get more sophisticated radars that can see many targets at once from far away, having to cycle through every one just to get to the target you want can be a pain, let alone the risk of accidentally cycling over it and having to cycle all the way through the other targets again. As for the point on locking targets closer to the mothership, my recommendation is to bind the control “Radar/IRST beyond/within visual range combat.” This enables ACM mode, so within a certain range, all you have to do is point your plane at the enemy and it locks them, no controlling of the actual radar required.
You can also get the gunsight lead indicator using only the f14Bs tiseo with the radar turned off
4:52 if DCS is any accurate, there should be a mode called PAL (pilot assisted lock-on) which is a HUGE acm mode that has a 15nm range; twice the distance of ACM/VSL/BST. but im not gonna snoop around for files to find it.
Yeah, and an f16 has it too. But in wt it is exclusive for a viper
@@user-if4zv5nj5m sadly
I use shift+WASD as cue target controls, shift+QE for elevation, changing patterns and radar modes is on 1234 keys and shift +1234. This way I can use the radar comfortably without the need to drop the mouse
very good!
Mirage F1c-200 now have IFF in MTI
Awesome background music. Kind of surreal, like the old Westwood Dune pc games. And ty for not using loud techno bs........yeesh.....
Having manual controls set for your radar is way better for BVR, if anything gets close use ACM.
for how small you are you make great, high quality videos
also when you use the point to select ground target thing for atgms, it tries to give you a gun radar but it seems very buggy
5:50 I've experienced IRST getting flared recently, not many times tho, so I could be wrong. It seemed to follow the same logic as heatseekers in that rear aspect locks are more solid.
Yeah, 1 flare and you loose IRST lock, if your plane does not have a medium prf pulse doppler lock such as the f16's and mig29's just aim like the good ol'days
Its kinda sad they ruined the radar-assisted gyrogunsights.
They were inaccurate and underleads the target even with lock since release up until "Apex Predators" where they fixed it and tested the 3rd person Gyrogunsight concept, those were golden times for sim players since the sight actually lead the target correctly. That didn't last long though, when "Sky Guardians" dropped and True lead calculating gunsights were added to modern aircrafts, the changes to the gyrogunsights got reversed back to a broken state
Many of you probably didn't notice a thing since people plays RB in third person and didn't care about the gyros at all
3:08 the MTI mode on the radar of the F1C also doesn't have IFF. Just a friendly reminder for anyone who takes out the Mirage F1C in air/ground simulator.
im a big user of radar elevation, lets you attack the boys in space from lower altitudes easier, and lets you attack people on the deck from space. namely without changing your altitude the whole time your tracking them. very useful when trying to sneak up on people who are expecting co altitude targets.
Amazing videos !
I disagree when you say that manual control are annoying to use. They are perfect early game if you wanna do bvr, and then when the furrballs are starting you are in acm mode anyway. Plus muscle memory that allow you after some times to pick who you want even in closer range.
I would like to be able to move my scan area vertically *relative* to my nose instead of the horizon, but I cant find a way to make that happen. Also, the "reset axis" key for the horizontal cue axis doesnt reset it for me, I have to manually move it back to the middle.
new mic bussin
I got a "translate to English" option for this comment lol
Regarding to the modes, whats the difference between PD and PDV? In what situations one will be better than the other one?
PDV just shows the relative speed of your target instead of distance, you can see the blind speeds of your PD radar in PDV mode. But it's not useful and I never use it. If you have TWS just use it, otherwise use PD search.
jaek moment
AIM-7M's seem to like to ignore perfect radar locks, anyone know what is up with that? Never had same with R-27's.
That’s nice and all, but TOP 5 QUESTIONABLY USEFUL RADAR INFO 🤨
did seek do the voiceover on this vid cause it sounds like seek if he hasn't slept for 3 days straight
3:38 How did you see the games code?
Radar elevation and cyclical switching need to be keybinds
Wdym bro I get so many people telling me to use manual radar slew!!! It must be good!
I'm having a problem with the Japanese F-16, it says that the ACM PD mode can lock the enemy plane at 19 KM but it only locks at 9 KM. Can anyone help me?
I was able to recreate the issue, it locked at around 9.3km. There's an open bug report on it:
community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/NRYSPEzvLRZC
Have to cross your fingers and wait for it to get fixed unfortunately.
Nice video +1
Do you know why in defyn’s video his radar gunsight shows lead wayy before mine does?
Are you using the same plane?
@@jaek_898 No, I’m using the f16 ADF. Is there a difference between planes?
@@ExtremeJetBomber Different guns have different ranges where air to ground CCIP kicks in, I'm pretty sure the same applies to air to air targeting. If it's the same gun behaving differently it might be because it's older footage. But now that you bring it up I think I remember the russian guns having much longer targeting range
@@jaek_898 thanks for the quick reply. Love the content. Subbed!
I have noticed that the mig21 SPS-K has 3 radar Search mdoes: 60°x20°, 60°x13°, 60°x13° - And I cant tell the difference between nr 2 and 3.
One of them is angled down like 1° more than the other IIRC. If you look at the little elevation indicator on the left you can see it shift
I feel like somebody should invent a mouse with like a small analog stick on the side.
Jaek video= neuron activation
i got u fam a lam
Hard disagree on manual radar control, it's a must in any kind of true BVR fight.
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For this being a follow-up to Defyn's video, this one is leaning towards a subjective opinion video rather than an objective informational video. Next time you make an information video, stay with that, no need to bring in your opinion on each section. I hope this will be understood correctly, cheers!
T2 radar is a sad case of uselessness.
you have the best radar at 9.7 with 0 actual uses for it. cuz lets be real. my capabilty to spot targets from 60km away means literally nothing
The F4C is the other way around, you have early sparrows but you can't really use them because you can't lock a target unless you ram your radar into it
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