RWR REWORK EXPLAINED | What All The New Lights Mean
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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Special thanks to JohnWick for helping me with this video
I know the text for ARI 18228 is wrong, it says 18223 instead of 18228 but I can not be bothered to re-render this video for the third time for some irrelevant british RWR thats almost identical to the 18223 anyway
Discord:
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Music:
• Menu - 23/92 - Ace Com...
Localization (custom aircraft names):
github.com/jaek898/wt-localiz...
0:00 - Intro
0:27 - Fundamentals
0:55 - Lock tones
1:19 - Launch warning
1:49 - Radar bands
2:57 - Audio-only RWRs
3:09 - SPO-2
3:27 - Directional RWRs
3:53 - Directional RWRs with new lights
4:44 - AN/APR-25, AN/APR-27, AN/APR-32
5:27 - AN/APR-36, J/APR-2, J/APR-3
5:50 - SPO-15, SPO-15LM
6:52 - APP-27
7:17 - APP-73
7:51 - Mirage Detecteur
8:08 - ARI 18223
8:58 - Partially digital RWRs
9:07 - ARI 18228
9:21 - AN/ALR-45(V)
10:03 - Fully digital RWRs
11:08 - Fully digital RWRs with new lights
11:25 - Outro - Ігри
![The ULTIMATE Radar Guide In Just 14 Minutes | War Thunder [2024]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lQy5ZyWBWOo/mqdefault.jpg)
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Corrections:
•Sapphire 21 and Sapphire 23s are in fact J-band radars, I thought they were I-band for some reason. If your RWR does not pick up J band (like ALR-25 or ALR-36), be especially careful around these radars, particularly the MiG-23ML/MLA/MLD with its R-24R.
•At 11:00, the list on the right should be the following: SHERLOC, SPO-150, ARI 18241, ARI 23284 (forgot to fix that, oops)
•AI R/O stands for Air Intercept (Range Only)
•I missed the ARI 23333 entirely, apparently it has some unique and interesting weapon groups. Contacts with a lowercase f at the end of their name appear to be "friendly" and are generally western radars while contacts without it are eastern (soviet), but I havent used it yet to confirm. But it still looks like it's not doing proper IFF.
•For a list of what the contact names mean on digital rwrs, go to www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/16n6obx/rwr_contacts_cheat_sheet/
If the Super Etendard gets the Anemone radar it would be X band PESA but you can't inspect the radar atm.
A/I RO = Airborne Intercept Range-Only (i.e. Ranging radars like found on F-100 or F9F-8)
I hope they soon deal with the fact that the F-104S.ASA barely has RWR because its RWR is not even an RWR. I looked up the model it used and it was f*cking ECM. A radar jammer. It should be the king of high altitude, but they still won't add the ECM the ASA was designed with.
@Hellyeah2heaven LOL
It wasn't a king of anything.
It didn't even have a proper RWR ...
It was more of a cope plane since Italy couldn't afford anything else ...
Many other aircrafts in the game are also missing their ECM pod.@@Hellyeah2heaven
Can you turn on and off the rwr or its always on
I can’t imagine how much of a headache this must have been. Hope you don’t hear the RWR noise too much in your dreams lmao
No, you're doomed, i play DCS & VTOL VR and those sounds haunt me in my sleep.
bee-boo.
Beep
Beep
Beep
BEEPBEEPBBEPBEEP
@@aestronom1920
OVER G
OVER G
PULL UP PULL UP
PULL UP PULL UP
BEDOOBEDOOBEDOOBEDOOBEDOO
PULL UP PULL UP
OVER G
WAOOOOOO
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Tch WOOSH
_Monster from my dreams crawls out of the shadows_
The RWR that is also in my dream:
*BEE BEE BEEP WARNING, LOCK ENEMY LOCK BEE BEE BEEP*
ace combat 7 missile alert
My favorite is the HAWK warning 😤 it'll turn on one day!
Premium f14 iranian hawk missile lol
@@Kill4Time255why you go straight to premium tho
@@yaboybenderbending7346ittl be that or event to rare for them not to want to lol
@@yaboybenderbending7346 ; Indoctrinated so much by Gaijin they think everything has to be Premium. Also probably because they only fly Premiums.
@@yaboybenderbending7346because the Iranian f-14 is literally just insane and there’s no way it’d actually work in a tech tree, it has a missile/bomb that we still don’t know how it was guided, it had HAWK Sam systems affixed to the outer wing pylons aswell as being foreign so it should only ever go to the U.S as a premium
My favorite part of the video is the part where the RWR beeps
Just an FYI for people playing the F-5C: the RWR does not pick up the J band. Got killed by r-24rs because of this
Skill issue
@@willsills6353 🤡
Yessssss I can finally genocide f5s in my mig23s even more
Finally this piece of shit is seeing some balance
@@MrPanzerCatYT Just be carful. Mig23 is only plane in the game that didnt see its radar on RWR, so if you meet another mig23, you RWR will be completely silent. Also mig21 uses the same band, and most planes before top tier are unable to detect it.
Betty is actually very useful in combination with this. She does specify a missile launch and a clock direct (3 o'clock for example) and an estimate of its above or not. I heard her say Missile 3 o'clock High in my experience. F-16AJ, I'd assume most other American planes and derivatives are similar.
Rita does it aswell(mig29). She tells you where the missile is coming from(left, right, front, behind).
F16c rwr will be so good in future updates
@@westernspy561In russian, I guess?
@@fa18superhornet Yeah
I hope they start using the actual symbology for the RWRs specifically the AN/ALR 56M. Many of it's special alerts are all audio which will need to be implemented. The same goes for the Priority Threat indicator which is probably one of the most important automated functions it has. Those is a ton of information available about it making proper implementation a necessity, especially with R-77s in the bear future. The F14s RWR also has special tones for TWS-capable aircraft.
Yeah, not gonna lie dog it aint gonna happen, back to bms for us
Good luck with Gaijin modeling separate sounds and UI for every single RWR. Yeah, no chance lmao
@@master4098 I play both BMS and DCS. I wish Warthunder actually bothered implementing some different UIs since some systems were just straight-up easier to use. It would make what tank or aircraft is the best very nuanced since a really good tank could be absolutely atrocious to actually use.
@@Fatallydisorganized Current WT iteration is great, i think credit has to be given.
@@master4098 it is super basic in its interface. The F16s RWR only gives a 3-second alert for a new launch. That would fix many of the problems of not knowing when new missiles are launched at your aircraft. If you watch a few videos of it being explained in DCS you'll see just how little the UI in War Thunder is like the actual system. It is much more user-friendly than the one we have in-game too.
All MiG-21 and MiG-23 variants use band J and many US planes below 11.3 or so cannot detect these including the F-4C/J, F-5, F-8 etc etc. Been clapping cheeks with the R-3R today because none of these guys can even tell they're locked and then a missile appears on their forehead
And that's why it's very important to be looking around constantly while in the fight
@@thegamingraven1691 Looking constantly for Mig-29s launching invisible ERs from 30 kms that can't be dodged when they're 2 kms out
Snail really went all in on the radar, hope maybe we can have realistic fire control system in ground. It might raise the bar for players tho.
you dont find this dedication to detail in most other channels. Im happy with supporting your work
I wont ever get far enough in wt to need this video but you still made it super easy to understand and entertaining. Also thankful for the small editing touches you made in the vid thanks a lot for making this
This man is giving information that overloads my brain. I'll just stick to the mentality of "Funny rwr go brr when radars, HEHE HAHA GRR"
Imagine trying to fight a group of harrier and your rwr telling you there is multiple f18 approaching your location
Gotta say this change is awesome, I read all of the changes Gaijin was bringing to RWR but even in game I still didn't understand all of it
But thanks very much for covering this so quickly Jaek! I'm sure this took A LOT of work to do we commend you for that. Wonder when Gaijin will add MWS.
*I always wondered if the AI light meant the bots or airborne/players*
I Am loving this update. Now I can tell wtf is locking me and how to deal with it.
Also thanks for the explanation, you helped remove some guess work.
Excellent 'rough' overview. Understood more in this video than since i first started seeing rwr in game, period. Please do more stuff.
I also recommend F1 help menu. There is short instruction that explains this stuff.
i completely love the RWR launch alert sound
RWR otherwise known as PTSD
Sad that they haven't implemented the range scale for the SPO-15, its literally the most important part lf it.
And with the inminent addition of fox 3 it would be extremely usefull.
In DCS i use the range scale to confirm if a missile has been defeted by its closure fate.
It also helps in BVR
The opacity of the bar on the RWR circle indicates the range, unless they removed that feature this patch.
@@perennialE that sounds like a pain in the ass to use if true, and completely different compared to the real thing
@@perennialE im pretty sure the opacity of the bar has nothing to do with the range, it's supposed to be a display of what sectors a particular RWR antenna covers
They haven't implemented many features of spo15. High and low targets distinction, or primary and secondary threats, for example
@@tensor8804 the spo cannot detect high and los, thats an incorrect implementation.
In reality the beryoza uses those recievers as normal antenas meaning it has no blindspots
Fantastic video as always!!! Love to see it!
Thank you man! The vid was honestly really helpful.
The intro is gold
thanks this helped me understanding wtf that beeping is
You are my favourite no bullshit, all usefull info youtuber, thank you a lot!
Can't wait to use my nike-herucles that gajin gave only me. Great vid jaek!
didint find any typos or errors but ill still be looking
I'm sure there's at least 4, gotta keep you busy and whatnot
love that the M247 uses the same track radar as the f16
Your vid’s are amazing bro
Thank you for your service
I feel like it should be noted that not all missile lock and launch warnings are fully accurate since if you're flying in a group of planes you may be detecting the radar shooting at someone close to you
Also some awkward situations like mig23 vs mig23 (their RWR cant pick up 2cm waves that its radar using).
Very informative video. This gonna help me in sim.
Hope they add the symbology to the cockpits for us sim players. Hate having it on hud.
Thank you Jeak
Instructions unclear. Due to your tutorial I teamkilled 3 people. Now I lost a ton of SL (silverlions).
rip bozo just buy SL with GE (golden eagles)
@@FairFireFightlmao
Gamble instead, 98% of players quit right before that IS-7 coupon, you can sell it for 1 gaijillion GE.
Just buy premium time you’ll never run out of sl
Ayyyy Walvis how you doing bro love your videos always a blast to watch
thank you so much needed this
@Jaek keep up the good work mate o7
this is why we are subbed to jaek
have not played war thunder in about a month but might have to play it again, seems like they are still some good improvements happening
Rwr on helicopters is fun too. On apache it can 'feel' friendly helis like mi-28 or ka-52 when you all together start from a helipad
Ah yes my favorite radar signature, the Riddler!
Instant like for the AC5 menu music
Jesus Christ, this is A LOOT to learn
I think rwr on harrier gr.7 can tell enemy from friendly
At this point, they should just make a separate game from war thunder if they are desperately trying to copy DCS.
@@fuzzymuffin8273no tf they are not. Idk where you're getting that bs from
@@fuzzymuffin8273 ; Reality exists buddy, or do you think DCS and WT are making a majority of the stats and functionality up? The playerbase wanted features like this for a long time.
Casual top tier match 10:04
great work
woah woah woah wait, hold on.
S-125 and Hawk.
Sim could see some really cool realism additions in the future
This RWR buff has been incredibly useful as a heli main. Now I know exactly what I’m facing from the moment I get a ping. I get a ping in an exact direction, sneak up to about 2ish km and rocket snipe the exposed AA using my rocket ballistic computer. Then I climb and have more or less free reign to annihilate stuff with rockets. I haven’t done this on my British Apache yet, but I bet it’s gonna be badass.
I’ve killed 2 Pantsir and a Tor in my Swedish Apache in a single game under 1 minute.
It’s very useful, and it’s even capable of detecting their missile launches.
10:05 new objective "try to survive"
I have a feeling the specific sam systems may come into the game in air rb or EC modes at some point. Not for a very long time knowing gaijin but I wouldn't say never
thanks, very useful
100% corrent or not, I now feel 100% more informed. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for this video! I've nearly died at least three time trying to figure out what my rwr was trying to tell me! I'd hear the lock tone look at the display and would see it flashing AI, so I though "oh it's just an AI locking that's not a problem," then I look around and see a missile clearly flying at me.
Thanks for the vid! Honestly I was so confused why my AN/ALR-45(V) kept spewing question marks at me when all of my other buddies' radar were working completely fine, all I do is notch and pray now since its basically useless lol
They've "fixed" the ALR-45 since this video and I'm working on a new RWR video but basically the way the ALR-45 works now is any aircraft threat it can identify will be assigned MID or HI (MID for I-band, HI for J-band), and those threats will throw lock and launch warnings. So for example, if an F-4E launches an AIM-7 on you, you'll get a missile launch from MID and if a MiG-23 launches an R-24R at you you'll get a missile launch from HI. But everything that isn't on its "list" (basically everything with a pulse-doppler radar) will show up as a question mark, and those give the solid lock tone instead of the proper alternating one as well as not supporting missile launch detection.
So tl;dr if you see a missile launch from HI you know it's a MiG-23, if you see a missile launch from MID you know its probably an older plane with sparrows, and if you see a question mark lock you be careful because you won't get missile launch warning.
Now all they have to do is reduce the insane sensitivity, because getting a launch warning from an aircraft that is in front of and facing away from me is kind of pointless. Alarm fatigue is a real thing, Gaijoob!
How the fuck you managed to compress all this into a 10 minute video and still make it understandable is beyond me. Kudos
They nurfed my viggen RWR 😭
11:00 RWR gets into Ace Combat mode
thank you
cool.
Now I know what CW means I scream "THATS THE SCARY LIGHT" when it comes up
The F4E uses the AN/APR-46 and I cannot find this anywhere on the video although I believe it’s digital considering I can detect what aircraft are around me
Yep its fully digital, I probably talked about that one more in my rwr 201 video
@GeneralLee2000 AI R/O is Air Intercept Range Only. So something like Su17/22 for example.
S125 is SA-3
S75 and SA75 is SA-2
Do you know what "TRF" or "HHR" mean? It shows up on the Kurnass 2000 RWR occasionally. I can't find information on what it means anywhere :(
TRF = Tornado F (Tornado F.3 and Tornado ADV)
HRR = Harrier (both Sea Harriers are the only ones in this group)
@@jaek_898 Oooh my gosh thank you so much. Where do you even find this info? Just in the files? I couldn't turn up anything by searching with google
Yep, the files is literally the only place where you can actually see this stuff because gaijin has it hidden away from players for some reason
FYI. the RWR is still fundamentally broken, you will still get locked by the friendly kifir that's 7km ahead of you, your RWR will not stop yelling about a missile launch at top tier even if it's not pointed remotely close to you.
I'll still take it though
its unlikely that this is the case, but real rwrs can get confused by reflections of radar waves off of mountainst and give you warnings like that. ill opt to believe its just a bug though
however false launch warnings are very common and very real, and you should expect to happen within a certain cone of a launching aircraft. of note the missile might actually change targets to you if it loses its original target while you hear the lock, so watch out.
I know that Gaijing has been trying to implement the “bubbles” around the plane where electromagnetic wave of the radar create disturbances (even being the plane itself) that can be picked up by the radar but 7km is far too far to be in the bubble
This is realistic. Radars have a rear lobe. The one on the Kfir is really big.
Those frenchies are weird. 10.x french-based delta aircraft all do this and damn are they annoying
Very useful when you try to notch a SMT from 42km+ and you get slapped by a R-27ER
Mig 21 and 23 radars use Band J as well, which is bit of a nuisance for US Navy Phantoms and their dated RWR, not picking these up.
Good Job Jaek! Now go take a break
its worth noting the F-4J and F-4S has the wrong RWR currently in-game, (ALR-25 when it should have ALR-45)
Has it been bug reported? I figured that was the case because there's no way the best navy phantom had an RWR that bad
I thought they broken the RWR or something ,sometime just does yell , until 0:39..... ok that explain a lot.
for some reason my radar just says rwr_threat. i get a lot of thing as commands instead of names, anyone know a fix?
Update your localization. Delete your lang folder, switch language to russian, switch back to english.
the f4s phantom 2's radar is a specimin
do a heli one please
wen datalink
Can you make a video on hot to equip the lady voice on where she tells you like over g or like or chaff flare
That's built into certain planes on a per-plane basis. Only the newer top tier jets have it. The volume is set by "voice warning system" in the sound options.
Thank you Gaijin for making my already outclassed F-104J even worse... 😐
Just found this video. Why does the Pantsir give no radar pings? The search radar is F, which means it should be in the range of the RWR of the planes like the F16. Only the tracking radar is K, which no plane lists. So we should - at least - get RWR pings from it, which we dont? Why?
When I tested it I was getting pings from the search radar. Were you going up against a pantsir that had his search radar turned off?
@@jaek_898 weird. Maybe he really had the radar off. But i don't seem to ever get a ping. Meanwhile 2S6 is always on the scope.
Could be confirmation bias tbh
In SIM EC battles, the F-14A is now useless. It doesn't display MiG-29, nor the other MiGs. :(
Anyone has a clear list of all the names of different radars (or the vehicle they are installed on) ?
Like M2K is the mirage 2000, or HRR is the harrier, or CRT is frontal (VT1 launchers)…
Will post on my discord soon, I dont think it will fit in a community post
Anyone know what f added at the end of digital rwr threat mean? For example Pdf f16f
I think f is for friendly?
@@skydesu7523 tah is not the case. It appears randomly and i had it from enemies radar.
finny bouter
When AN/ALR-45(V) calling your radar mid😢
2:22 Bandai Namco
Does anyone have a list of all the J-band aircraft in the game?
Would be useful for deciphering who could be aproaching you when using RWR's that only tell you the band
MiG-21 (Sapphire-21, excludes stuff like MiG21F13 and J7D), MiG-23 (all except BN), Kurnass 2000, Tornado IDS/GR1. Those are all the ones I can think of.
However if youre going off the "J" light it's MiG-21 and MiG-23 only, I'm working on a new rwr video
@@jaek_898 Ah thankyou!
So wait, tornado and kurnass dont trigger a J light? Thats odd...
@@impguardwarhamer Yeah, the short answer is that a lot of the lights are done by hand on a per-radar basis and they didn't include certain radars (either by design, or by forgetting)
@@jaek_898 haha, sounds about right lol
oh but like
whats the sauce for the meme at the start 😂
Could you do mention the F-14 too and explain how it works? Thanks
F-14A or B?
@@jaek_898 maybe both? but i think F-14B is basically a digital so same as F-16, but the A version is semi-digital
i found om my ah 64 a an text saying ctrl its that a crotale?
CRL. Yes.
And how do I turn that rwr_threat thing off?
Sounds like you have broken texts, you might need to update your localization
top tier is so fucking complicated
NATO bros we are back 😤
😈😈
Soviet spo-15 is still far from its IRL capabilities, but I guess it is the step in the right direction anyway
The americans rwr are irl better
@@lemangeur2poulet248 I'm so glad for them
but they still cant tell the difference between you being lock and fired on, or the guy near you being locked n fired on.
Irl they can’t so they will never be able
@@lemangeur2poulet248 are you stupid? they can most definitely tell the difference between themselves being locked an fired on vs their wingman etc. the allied plane next to you locking and firing on an enemy plane, would not cause your own rwr to spike etc. youre flat out wrong guy. i work in aviation.
OH MY GOD I LAUGHED WAY TOO HARD AT TRYING TO NOTCH THE POLICE RADAR IM FKN CRYING AT WORK😂😂😂😂😂
i hate how disgustingly inaccurate all these RWR display's are, i hope one day they get an update to be more accurate, nice video tho
I might be disabled, but I also believe you missed the AN/ARP-39. Which seems to exist solely on Helicopters
It seems to exist only on American helicopters and the new US/Chinese helicopter used a different variant of the AN/ARP-39
It exists on most NATO/allied helicopters, apart from the fucking french of course
Ok turns out I'd like to see a video dedicated just to helicopter RWR and the few radars some have
Hey, you might luagh at the spo2 rwr, but it could be useful in sim battles!
It actually is, the Su-7's have such unbelievably bad rearward visibility that it's saved me on a couple of occasions from both teammates and the other team.
Jeeze. Top tiers are starting to feel like DCS with mouse aim and permanently in arena deathmatch mindfuck mode. You have to have about 20% the knowledge of a real 3rd gen jet pilot and that's a *lot*. I'm not sure it's everyone's jam - including mine. Might have to get back into 8.0 gunfighters (time to unlock my Scimitar finally)
I’m just saying this imagine he did caliber 20mm-105mm he probably won’t so ye
Cant wait to go deaf listening to warnings and launches
the mig23 use band j
what a mess!