Norm MacDonald on Problem of Evil, Atheism, God, Satan and Judaism
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2021
- From 2016 Nerdist podcast - Norm goes philosophical and talks about why God might have created evil
4:44 Norm's view on "If God exists, how can children die, how were so many killed in Nazi Germany"?
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For those who want to say there was no Holocaust, as I saw in some comments, please do some actual historical research. Also, this is a great aspirational video:
twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1632823423159107591?t=DSD7LFTcmRFINs2llVJeAw&s=19
There wasn't any. It never happened. Also please explain to me what a metzitzah b'peh is.
History is often written by the victor. Check out who's in every political party cabinet, running the federal reserve, and owns the media corporations. They seek to undermine and try to destroy everyone who isn't them. It is a racist blood cult they are born into.
@@dontaskmeforusername You must be the most ignorant person on the planet to say there was no Holocaust. It must help you somehow psychologically, but at what cost? The cost of your humanity?
@@AnthonyL0401 Didnt happen
@@AnthonyL0401 if you truly believe that it must be a psychological cope, then you would not try to convince them to change their belief. I would say that this behavior on your own behalf is a psychological cope (to protect your own belief - that the Holocaust happened and was a terrible thing) on the same level and that there's no rational reason to go out trying to convince nonbelievers/deniers.
“And I dropped out of highschool”
*actually graduated at 14*
his truth, maybe?
He also did this in his book, and he even said jim downey (snl head writer) had dropped out of school after the 2nd grade. In reality, he had a degree in russian from harvard 😂
The more philosophical side of Norm MacDonald. There are still a few laughs to be found but he seems so profoundly genuine in his sentiments about God, the devil, faith, and religion.
Wow... didn't realize how much you miss someone till they're gone.
Didn't know he died:/ rip
What a. Real good guy
@Jessica Marie Baumgartner I hope he's just faking it and living in his bunker like the other stars
@Jessica Marie Baumgartner WORD
Why would you miss someone before they're gone? Give your head a shake
As I listen to Norms videos, I find my myself realizing that we lost a National Treasure. His reasoning is genuine and this adds to his comedic talents. In other words, his comedy comes from deep inside of him with an amazing amount of truthfulness which is delivered using his ingenious way of presenting his thoughts. May Norm R.I.P. 🙏🏻
Canadian?
@@joshualong2183 Canadian leaning Jewish...
Really true
Maybe he lived authentically because he saw his expiration date.
I knew that before we even lost him.
“Look, I don’t want to say too many good things about the Devil.” Pure genius.
“..laughter is what keeps me..” RIP Norm.
That one hurts now that he's gone. I hope there is an afterlife and that he's found peace.
Sad to think he felt broken, we all considered him near perfect
@@herecomeskuma3107 I think we know comics are broken. You'll see. Remember they fired him? He's like all of us...
I didn't realize the level of his genius until I started watching all these videos after his death.
Better late than never
@@genesiskeglar6372 I've been a fan of his since the early 90s but I didn't realize how smart he actually was. If I'd known I would have paid more attention to what he had to say.
I feel the exact same, makes me sad I didn't know when he was alive. He was genuinely extremely intelligent and courageous in the truest sense of those words.
That’s great.
The legend grows…
Yes... I became more aware of Norm after he passed. I really learned to like him! -keith
We never knew how philosophical Norm was, because he rarely showed that side of himself. It's somehow comforting to know, now that he's gone, that he did think about such things.
Because its a unfunny subject
We did know
Wow! His opinion on why bad things happen to people, is the best explanation I've ever heard given on the topic. It's a better answer than any preacher I've ever heard give, and I've been in church hearing sermons all 42 years of my life. I think that even though Norm is no longer with us, he is going to continue to suprise us, by just how wise he was, and how deeply his thought process was. Most people who are subbed to this channel are pretty dang smart, the reason I say that, is that it takes a little bit above average intelligence to truly appreciate his style of comedy. I've been shocked many times when showing people the funniest things Norm has ever said, and them look at me like I'm the idiot for finding it hilarious. I think it takes a pretty smart and witty person to love and truly appreciate Norm. Not necessarily a book smart person, but a person who thinks fast, has a great ability to read people, and most importantly, has an understanding of sarcasm. The number of people in this world who don't have the ability to recognize sarcasm when they hear it, is staggering. My point is, that we as fans are going to continue to learn lessons from Norm for many more years to come.
I agree. Thanks for the comment!
i feel the same way pal. Also i often notice that people who don't think norm is funny often lack in reflection and objectivity but maybe i'm just being conceded.
Except his logic is terrible and easily argued against.. he's smart but hes trying to force himself into believing some "good" god, which led him to a fatal error, creating a ruleset as humans have in the past, from their own desire in their own imagination/logic which doesn't apply to this "god".
Who said god is good and can't creat good because it would be "expansion" and so he made bad? Did god say that? No. Norm made that rule up. From his mind. Therefore it's a meaningless assumption. I can make a million random rulesets like that myself. A god wouldn't have silly limitations like that, because it's.. a god. Anything you as a person think of as god in your mind is wrong. Are you really so foolish to think a human is going to imagine the correct god if it exists, by chance? The only god you could reasonably believe in is a shitty one.
Listen to Dawkins and Hitchens some more. It's simple really.
@@OArchivesX Dawkins and Hitchens lose the richness of life in their cold atheism. But thanks for your comment! I kinda agree with Norm
"His opinion on why bad things happen to people, is the best explanation I've ever heard given on the topic." You should read more. It's a trope and doesn't make any sense.
Normy, Normy , Normy. I miss you already. I love you Norman Macdonald. Till the stars fall I'm with you, and you are with me. Blessings on my head through you Norm.
😢😢😢😢
you can tell this is something he put a lot of thought into and was not just regurgitating some theological talking point.
pls could you explain what his answer to the problem of evil was
@@tamunotamuno3564
If I understood him, it was:
God is already totally good. Maximum good.
Any more good would just be more God. Therefore: the only way to expand creation is to make Evil.
damn norms brilliant@@robotbjorn4952
RIP Norm. I hope you are in Heaven.
Religion is nonsense
@Donna di Lode this all sounds like the insane rants of a cult leader
@Donna di Lode
Matthew 8:10
King James Version
10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
@Donna di Lode Norm would be the first to tell you to get down off your cross, so I''ll do it for him. Knock it off.
Spoiler alert: he is.
4:11 lol was norm trying to quote clint eastwood in unforgiven? "Its a hell of a thing killing a man, you take everything hes got and everything hes ever gonna have"
Holy hell this is the most poignant way I have ever heard the concept of religion explained; not only is Norm funny he is incredibly insightful and extremely intelligent never really even thought of him as that but he really is
RIP Vince Foster
Let us never forget!
This is awesome. Norm graduated high school 2 years early and went on to university to study philosophy before starting stand up but claims to be a high school drop out. Haha Love you Norm
After his death, UA-cam was flooded with Norm MacDonald videos….I finally realized why Norm was funny… He could say anything no matter how insulting or nasty, and punctuate it with that grin… he was a latter day Don Rickles….
UA-cam was flooded with Norm vids before he died, he had a big UA-cam following. I didn’t even know he was sick.
Norm had a rage I liked
Confusing mostly
He wanted a god but not sure he really believed
I heard him say in another interview the difference btwn belief and faith. He said he had faith. Believing was different. I can't recall who he was talking to. Very in depth reveal.
@@lesleewatson4266 larry king interview
@@lesleewatson4266 i remember him saying "you choose to believe" in one of the interviews.
You have a choice to believe you’re a miracle or a mistake, that’s all you need to believe.
@@Earthad23 i'am both
When he said he was close to an answer it kinda killed me inside. Started doing stand up 2 months ago I’ve been on stage ten times, I became homeless today but if there is something out there. It will workout I guess.(this comment doesn’t mean anything I just really needed to tell someone)
Just keep on living and laughing. A day without laughter is a day wasted. You’ll be alright I know it.
@@pablolloyd1450 thank you mate, I got better gigs in Florida(when I made the comment) it became better and better, I went to 24 states and loved every second of it, I’m not homeless anymore I went back to Michigan where my comedy started. Live and love life
@@guro1350 glad to hear you're doing better brother! Keep at it!
We're all rooting for you my brother, stay strong in the face of adversity. 💪♥️
Read C.S. Lewis's book, Mere Christianity. It's a small book, very readable, sensible, book that deals with these issues.
And also “The Great Divorce.”
Also read mein kampf
Thanks for sharing this video. Throughout quarantine I was watching Norm videos and it shocked me hearing of his death. I never saw Norm in person or knew him but its amazing how with some people you can listen to them and hear them speak and it almost seems as though theyre your best friend even though they are distant… Maybe ive just been in quarantine for too long. So many laughs love you Norm🤍
RIP Norm
Only discovered this man since his death and I have falling in love with him. He was one of the great ones.
Ive been turned onto Norm for the last 3 years to me it was obvious that from the moment he teared up on letterman that he was going through something also at times he was out of breath. Anyone that says they were shocked wasnt paying attention
Just the whole, bloated look raised a flag. Poor Norm. He was brave. Always was.
@@rudolphguarnacci197 The bloat looked like he was taking prednisone. But why? For cancer?
@@eloisepoe
We can only guess.
He brought such joy to the screen. A wonderful man
I developed an irrational fear for Norms well being these last few years. Was more rational than i like, looking back now.
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen, I’ve been goin through a tough time and this really inspired some hope
You can't experience true joy unless you've experienced despair. You can't fully appreciate love unless you've also experienced fear. It's a necessary evil.
true dat 👍
I loved it when Norm got deep. Think how amazing this conversation would’ve been with Ricky Gervais.
Ricky Gervais isn't deep and profound though, he spouts midwit teenage atheist level philosophy and it's totally embarrassing
@@Osafune2 opinions remain opinions
@@Osafune2 m.ua-cam.com/video/MBfeEIVH3n0/v-deo.html
@@danathanaurelius4685don't assume all opinions are equal. Many are garbage, founded on garbage. Gervais' opinions are an example
@@oracle8192 or yours? It's all perspective
The more I learn about norm the more I miss him. He was extremely wise but played it off with extreme humility.
My pastor…doesn’t know anything.
Haha that part was awesome
That is the WORST KIND of “pastor”.
Sounds like the typical pastor who didn’t go to seminary.
He's death has hot me like a brick to the face... how can you miss someone you've never met..
RIP Norm the greatest.
I totally hear you. I keep getting UA-cam recommendations of his videos that he did for Cameo, where someone pays to have a video made for a friend, etc. by a celebrity. His are so funny and down to earth and sincere... so much respect for that man!!!
Me too. I discovered him in 2022, couldn't stop watching him for days and days and then I learnt of his passing. That is exactly it. How can you miss someone you've never known.
Cause he was a good soul that hit us in the soul every time he spoke. A true genius. A comedy legend. RIP normy.
I'll take Norm Macdonald over Richard Dawkins any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Why can't they both be great lol
On one hand we have a man of science who believes in his science against the notions of religious idiocy
The other guy is norm
@@danathanaurelius4685 one one side you have a propagandists shill who sells the flawed theory of Darwinism and on the other hand u have a righteous man who believes in ways of nature and knows secrets which very very few knows
@@danathanaurelius4685 man…. There’s no contest. Norm was genuine, his greatness resided in the levels of freedom he achieved … while Dawkins sounds like a bitter man with a job
@@Insaniya.humanity I have a problem with being able to put myself in somebody else's shoes for a nanosecond which alots me the ability to sympathize with their positions
Honestly don't know the man enough to really make a judgment call on his character and I don't think neither do you
@Lando Calrissian but you answered lol
Ahhhhh he's a good man. RIP Norm
That apple joke is so underrated holy shit
I hope i get to meet Norm one day in the Kingdom.
The last 15 seconds was raw
He was such a genius, I feel much the same way about God and religion, but I’ve never been able to be half as articulate about it as Norm. It’s such a shame he’s gone, but hopefully he’s in a better place!
He probably ended up down below, getting raped by the devil.
"Bhagavad Gita-As It Is" by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is THE translation of the Gita with all of the answers! Being inquisitive as Norm was, certainly made him eligible for enlightenment. "The Lord helps those who help themselves". Hare Krsna!
Gazuntiet!
No single book written by humans has "all of the answers". To claim such a thing is pure foolishness and arrogance. Every sentient being is "eligible" for enlightenment. It doesn't even have to be able to read, write, or speak. I would even go so far as to say those abilities are more hindrances than tools for enlightenment.
Not really
@@saschamaj
Tao Te Ching has all of the answers.
He’s absolutely right. It’s up to us to discern and value what is good, and create it in a “godlike” way, in a world that is the opposite of good.
"I dropped out of high school!" Norm graduated high school at 14 and went to university at 16.
He wasn't as great as Jaques de goatzay
I hope he made it to the truth before the end.
Norm was a Christian. I'm not sure why so many people are worried about him.
@@AnthonyL0401 many-a-time it's a Christian who is closest to Hell. Salvation ain't no walk in the park, that's for sure, and I doubt Norm made it easy for himself. It's only natural to worry.
@@AnthonyL0401 probably because many of the people around him see the idea of heaven and everlasting life is a ridiculous claim made by people who couldn't possibly know what they're talking about and are basically just making it up
@@AnthonyL0401 Did you even listen to your own video?!
I don't think I ever seen him angery. He was always laughing telling the truth but honestly think he loved people. I believe that we are not judged by our deed but by the measurements of our hearts. To walk and live in love is not easy instead of fear and anger is not easy.
What a searcher. Our job is to keep looking. I hope that you found what you were looking for Norm.
I found this an interesting conversation. The one thing that came to my my mind is that you can't understand God's permission of suffering if you don't believe in Satan the Devil. The whole reason for the state of the world is Satan's challenge to God that man could rule himself independent of the universal sovereign. As a just God he has allowed time for that challenge to be proved false and the whole theme of the Bible is his Kingdom which will put all these injustices right, and how we can benefit from it.
He was a gem! There was an incredible mind working inside that noggin. Miss him.
These are beautiful, but even his comedy now is bitter sweet. What a real guy. Big Love Norm
I believe he always retracted the way he did from compliments for two reasons. 1. He had a rough upbringing because of his father. 2. But more importantly, and can be gained from his interviews is because he believes the Bible and that “man is prideful and flesh is weak.” He really wasn’t comfortable being doted upon as Dennis Miller always pointed out about him going Andy Kaufman against compliments. Normie is my favorite of all time. I never met him but I cried like he was my brother and best friend. Not sure why. Not sure if it was because I recognized a version of myself in him that had more bravery to pursue his big dreams or if it was his willingness to not play it safe. I really don’t know but I’ve never been this emotional over someone’s death outside my family. The only thing I know is the loss of Norm’s perspective feels like a tragedy and conceding a loss to corporatism where everyone will only protect their paycheck and say whatever “they” want going forward. I’ve loved his comedy since the Update desk on SNL where he wouldn’t compromise. I love him even though I didn’t know him personally and I will miss him.
Very well put.
We all do, brothercousin
Come take a hug and stop crying
Listening to Norm talk about death makes it even worse. I want an afterlife to exist just because he deserves it.
I don't care too much for whether I go or not, I just want Norm and my family up there at the very least.
God loved him soo much...I m 100% sure of that n heaven must be having d greatest standup ever...he was a genius not only comic genius...there is nobody anywhere close to him
Heaven has comedy clubs? That seems strange.
@@skankhunt3624 if heaven is real, it should be an enormous comedy club.
@@Andrew-zt3bf did you see the response to Dave Chappelle's last special? Heaven is no place for comedy....
Or so the Germans would have us believe.
There is no god, and if there was you have no clue if Norm was in the club. Stop speaking for your fake god. I think that may be sacrilegious actually.
@@morbidmanmusic
You R right sir....
God bless u 🙏 anyways
What a great question Norm!
He's still with us....Thank God.
Really, where is he because I want to shake his hand and take him out to dinner so we can discuss some personal business. God is welcome to come but he has to show himself or mind his own business. I'm not willing to look like an idiot out in public pretending like God exists when he doesn't even have the desency to show himself to others. People really need to start demanding that from God because he is not doing anything to help other people believe that he exists. Why should I be doing all the work for him. He needs to show himself or forget about getting help from anyone anymore. That's the least he can if he wants people to believe in him. So until he does this, count me out on pushing that he is real. I'm tired of looking like an idiot trying to explain to people why he wont how himself. I dont know why he wont but he better start to because I'm not going to until he takes the time to at least try. LOL
@@thomasbassett5475 Don't you know? He's in a better place.
@@thomasbassett5475 You sure are mad at God for being a no show, considering you think he's fake.
Can't be mad at something's that's not real.
The fact you believe in God could not be more obvious. You're just angry at him.
Thank God for the hatchery
My summed up version for such questions is; sometimes shit happens, and there's nothing you can do about it. And that's a fact of life. But you can leave it up to a higher power to know the reasons behind tragedy.
I just have this feeling after I die, the first thing some god/spirit will say to me is: "You took this whole life thing way too seriously."
You took this whole life thing way too seriously, yet your name is Thrillbo Shaggins ...
@@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. And then you respawn just to get noscoped across the map not even a second after
Love how he said, you know I'm not Jewish. Well, I was for a year!
I was Jewish for about three days. I was even allowed to read from the Temple Torah, which deeply horrified some. I learned that Jews are way more interesting than Christians.
Questioning one another and their own beliefs is considered healthy. Several of those I met were atheists, agnostics, and even Buddhists. Yet they were all devoted, practicing Jews! Christianity and Islam don’t tolerate that.
God I really want to read this book I’m holding but boy it’s hard when there’s audio files of Norm talking philosophy.
"oh my God. That would be Hell..." Very good Norm. Very good.
He's definitely thought this through but you still need to be pretty sharp (and I guess a comic genius) to toss that in there right on cue
being a conscience floating in the ether BUT in good company wouldn't be awful, plus you cant get hurt physically, that leaves conscience pain, but if you're in company nobody will berate you about whatever thing you used to regret
The chimney thing really got me 😂😂
Norm self taught & so smart. Miss you Norm & your beautiful soul. 💟✝️
I wish I had paid him more attention while he was here. I've really listened to him a lot starting just before his death unfortunately. Well fortunately enough that I do get the opportunity to at least get to know his comical genius ness
Some great stuff. I wish it had not cut off when it did.
Norm at 10:25 obviously misspeaks when he puts the Lord's Prayer in the Old Testament; it is found in the gospels of Matthew and Luke.
Many people have noticed the problem with the "lead me not into temptation" line of this prayer and apparently Bergoglio blamed it on a mistranslation and has altered the words. Although it is a problem of translation, as usual the Satanic heretic got it wrong. Thomas Fleming has shown that the word "temptation" in the prayer is the same word that is used in the temptations of Christ. So the line in the prayer is not avoiding the temptation of having a second piece of chocolate cake but about not undergoing the trials that Christ was subjected to in the desert by Satan.
Good always comes from bad. The bad things I've been through have made me a better and stronger person. It's so great that he talked about God so often; he made people laugh and he spread the word of God---despite his misfortunes and personal struggles.
That is so not true. Bad is bad, good is good. Children are not born into this world from bad. Tree's don't rise from the earth from a bad seed...
@@terrystearns1196 the point is we can find good even in bad (or difficult) circumstances.
I'll say what everyone else's is saying: Didnt know how wonderful of a person and a comedian Norm was. I actually think that's bc he was fired from SNL.. and maybe they tried to "cancel" him. He never got a lead part..but he was in a lot of movies and shows... He was a lot better than I thought he was. I also believe he stood for what he believed. Thats why they tried so hard to cancel him. He wasnt going to just say whatever they wanted him to just to get paid. People like Norm are a dying breed. RIP Norm! Tell my Mom I Said Hi. And This should be a reminder to everyone on here. You can't take ANYTHING material with you...All you can do is Leave Your Legacy. Norm Definitely Did That!
I miss my mom sooo much.
Someone who appreciates outlaw country should appreciate the "original outlaw".
I find the first 30 seconds confusing. He says he asked Dawkins why life insists, but this is a relatively simple question with a simple answer so I doubt Dawkins would have had trouble answering it. I did find a tweet by Dawkins responding to Norm with "That's a very interesting and more difficult philosophical question. I need to think more about it." but the original post by Norm has been deleted. Does anyone know what the original exchange was?
Check out the whole discussion... id10t.com/podcast/episode-831-norm-macdonald/
Norm sounds like a mystic thinker I miss him already
I wish I could have done Bible Study with Norm.
Literally my response to the ad before this
What show is this? I need to find the whole thing.
The id10t podcast... formerly called The Nerdist podcast... id10t.com/podcast/episode-831-norm-macdonald/
I always think when the basic questions arise of "how does God allow bad things to happen? And stuff about the problem of evil, people need to read the patristic Fathers. This stuff was all dealt with in like 3rd century Constantinople onwards. St Augustine wrote an 800 page book that dealt extensively with this, but nowadays people just reduce the divine will down to the level of human preference, taste and a subjective morality that results from atheism. So of course nothing makes sense, because if those are your presuppositions, then you would just expect God to give everyone tasty food and orgasms all day long because all suffering = bad
I recall C.S. Lewis saying something like 'people ask, if there's a god, why is there anything bad.. but I ask, if there's no god, why is there anything good?'
I suspect if you presented that to St Augustine he would reply that his faith is the core of his being and everything coming from within him flows from that.
Kairu Hakubi
'cos no one needs a god
to _not_ be an asshole.
People just write off Catholicism because they aren't all saints
God's Strength
ya don't need a reason to write something off when it doesn't need to be considered.
The Lord‘s prayer is in the New Testament Norm told to us by Jesus - Is Norm just trolling us?
Good one.
that is what i thought
I regret to say that I think he just got it wrong.
Only really discovered him just before he died sadly.....rip to the best Canadian who ever lived
We die every time we go to sleep...
Can someone pls explain his answer to the problem of evil?
I'm reading a lot of comments to the effect of being full of regret for not getting to know Norm that well before he died. I'm feel so grateful and blessed that I did get to know him as much as I could these past many years. I've always loved you Norm and can't wait to see you again.
Anyone knows who is the interviewer?
DAWKINS sounds back peddling if survival reflexes etc are instinctual. "instinct" seems like "gravity"; some word you throw at something. norm's a deep dude
That's a deep thought. Negative and negative does equal positive
Norm McDonald I love you buddy thank you for your honest comedy. I know what humor is and thank you for your humor through your point of view.
Norm the philosopher. We miss you Norm
There's final answers for every question out there!
Norm is the only comedian that always makes me laugh.
Maybe some Professor of Logic already stated what Norm says but his argument honestly resonates with me.
An infinitely good being-if created good would just be expansion. So the act ot creation by definition would be something less then perfect good ==> imperfect which includes evil … BUT capacity for good too.
That is subtly profound. Norm claimed he only read “six books” in his life but then goes on a trivia gameshow and hits top prize for a children’s charity (technically he knew top answer but didnt want to risk losing a huge donation for Paul Newmans legacy). The more I learn about him since his passing, including his devoted disregard to stupid Hollyweird authoritarianism, the more Im impressed. He was anything but the typical celebrity.
PS I bet Richard Dawkins and his selfish genes (who in all his atheistic grandstanding has a fear of haunted houses) don’t have a dog house. :-)
RIP Norm
Go Norm!! Im happy to see that you seeked God. I feel that God answered your prayers ❤️
We all have a soul, and without one, there is no compassion, consequence, or self worth. Just an entity that does stupid things for no reason until death, then nothing. To live life with no soul is very empty.
@Proper Sure, and without a soul, you have no reason to live. Just end it now. That makes you as purposeful as a rock.
@@mikes8698 with or with out God, there is reason to live. You wouldnt stop having compassion for your kids. I have to say you dont sound very compassionate with what you just said
This helped me better understand a concept of god. And it came from norm Macdonald…
I am now able to visualize god in a way I’ve never been able to in my 33 years of life. If god is the infinite then like you when you sleep it must recharge itself in a way by sacrificing a part of itself to create universes. Perhaps the universes are neutral to begin with but they are what norm explains. A place where things that are bad are able to morph and transform back into good with enough time. And once you’ve done that correctly you’re able to return back to the oneness of god. Then you repeat the cycle when a part of god needs to be maintained. Like when you grow old and go through some kind of problem….sometimes you know the answer to help yourself but must remind yourself of the correct steps it took you before in accomplishing or overcoming whatever it is you’re going through. Like neural pathways that need to be maintained. That’s what god needs to do as well. Throw parts of itself into chaos and wait for it to correct itself back into being all good.
I don’t think any other religion has ever come this close to describing what feels real to me. Thankyou, Norm. Enjoy the oneness for a while.
Disagree with Norm about religion and God, but he was still one of the funniest guys.
@Vincit Veritas Why sad?
@Vincit Veritas Well, he didn't really seek truth though since he saw reality through the lens of Christianity and what he personaly wished. As he said he really WANTED there to be a God because it makes him feel good and because he thinks it would all be so meaningless if there wasn't one. Also you said that i agree with truth...so you're saying I'm right?
@Vincit Veritas Sorry but something isn't true just because you wish it to be. Also you write very confusingly. And you said it was sad that I agree with truth. So you do admit that I am right? Or did you mean to say that its sad that I disagree with the truth?
I don't believe you really understand what Norm was trying to say or his stance on religion..
Norm had no answers, that's why he was searching constantly for something that made sense.
Dawkins didn't realize he was actually talking with a real genius.
Well Dawkins is pretty smart himself. These are questions we are supposed to constantly be talking about. No one knows the answer, no one could. But together we find common ground, and common belief. E-pluribus unum.
@@skankhunt3624
Lol, Dawkins was no match for Norm MacDonald.
@@20alphabet not sure why it has to be one or the other.
@@skankhunt3624
Compared to Norm, Dawkins was a quisling.
@@joseph7105
Agreed
Holy fuck, Norm was smart! I learned something profound just now!
Life equals growth. Not-growing is dying. That's the answer to Norms question.
I miss him so fucking much. I actually cry cause it hurts, I loved him, he brought me so much joy, it hurts so fucking bad
"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark Twain
Religion, for me, is the acknowledgement that there is so so so much in this existence we are currently incapable of explaining. Beyond that feel free to label the characters in your story as you wish to perceive it.
But Norm was a great and hilarious mind that gave so many so much enjoyment. He will be missed in his absence from this linear time/existence as we are perceiving it in our admitted limited capacities.
For me, it's science.
If you have not yet, I deeply encourage you to read the the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I have my moments of doubt, but I always come back to the Gospels and wonder why the life of Jesus has fundamentally changed the world so profoundly. I believe it’s because it’s the Truth.
@@junior90210 for me it’s both
That question Dawkins couldn't answer is so easy. I'm rather amazed to hear about that situation.
Why, who has gone? Where have they gone?
One hell of a cliffhanger ending here...
Yeah no kidding, sorry, that seemed cliff hanger, but I think he never finished the sentence. Hmm, profound
It's only because we are still here that life's continuation appears to be an "insistence." For organisms that do not insist, or that did not insist enough, their fate was extinction.
I guess dawkins never got back to him.
No one ever expects to be asked, "Why should the species be preserved?"
What other comedian can be so in touch and honest to say what Norm says in the last 26 seconds of this clip?
In even his early stuff in the 90s there was an existential reality to his observations. His early stuff was "Hey, even a dumb guy can understand that." (OJ guilty, Michael Jackson loves children, life is a fucking sham...)
His stuff from the last 10 years was sagely hilarious.. "I've walked ankle deep, through blood and bones".., and now I understand that."
Also the answer for why god allows horrors is in 1john5:19 pretty simple explanation. God is allowing it not causing it. He also has a remedy to undue the pain and suffering that is currently being felt.
Godspeed.