@@topdockpro I wish I can show you pictures how it was before I bought it. I need to send it first, I am thinking heavy cut, polish and seal it with Jescar power lock. Plus boat has a lot of non skid. What do you think?
Smoove Ceramic Shield. Any reviews of that product? Its far less expensive than the ceramics you reviewed. Its doesnt seem as professional though, but gets good reviews.
Amazing! Nice to see you have experience with Jescar. I prefer the SiO2 polymer. But for fiberglass in general I’m not sure there is a best coating. It depends on what you’re looking for and how you want to maintain the boat
Thanks Simon. As a new boat owner in Southwest Fl this is so helpful. My boat’s non skid deck is just starting to look a little dull. I only have a Griots G9 DA polisher. Do you think it would be ok to skip the heavy cut and just Stark polish (Lake Country orange pad) / Jescar seal then Regular Si02 for maintenance? Keep up the good work.
I've applied Jescar and am very happy with it. I am a little confused about what soap will make it last the longest? Its not technically ceramic but is the sio2 soap still the best? I have been using woodys wax extremely dilute but I'm wondering if that stripping it. Thanks
Yes, we use Hyper Hold in our business. Great product. Super easy to work with and wipe off your boat. Also... one of the longer lasting sealants on the market.
I suppose but I wouldn’t use wax. That’s the reason they make ceramic boosters and maintenance sprays. It fills in the gaps of the coating. I would maintain and recoat as needed. If you want you can put a polymer or ceramic wax over your ceramic coating. Wax won’t do much
Simon what happens to polymer and ceramic coatings when the shine dims? Are they just naturally burning off or do they require tougher compounding to remove and prep for next coating? I have a large boat and the professional waxing is not cutting it and want to step up to something that lasts the season on the Great Lakes.
@@topdockpro used the ultra lock + this past weekend .. was awesome, put it on with the DA , nice thin layer .. let it sit for 45 mins and wiped off with MF cloth .. looks great feels slick .. lets see how long it lasts .
Simon, on a fiberglass hull that is very lightly oxidized, what do you recommend as the first step towards prepping the hull for polymer or ceramic after good washing? thx, Gary
@@topdockpro do you ever use starke ignition? Or Restructure? Or is it pretty much always just level R then elevate? Thanks for the informational video!!
is there a reason you dont use 16:9 on the go pro and use 4:3 instead- with that said i prefer the jescar hands down get the gallon and put it in $1 plastic condiment squueze bottles
Great Vid! I'm trying to get a few years out of my old gelcoat before I have to re gelcoat the whole boat. I'm currently using rejex, what sio2 do you like best over rejex? Thanks!
If you think a ceramic coating will stop scratches I think you need to get your head examined. If you mean very light scratches then say that. What you said implied ceramic coatings are much more of a miracle coating than they are.
I never understand why professional detailers claim ceramic coatings won’t work unless you polish and correct the surface first. That is all just BS marketing so they can charge more for their services. As long as the surface is decontaminated you will be fine. I have ceramic coated a bunch without correcting and have benefited from it without the surface being perfect. The chemical doesn’t know what steps you have taken before using it. The key is decontamination.
We as a company strive for perfection in all our work. I would never seal a gelcoat surface with a wax, sealant, or ceramic if it’s scratched up or oxidized. Decontamination is super important as well.
@@topdockpro I get that as a business but tell people that. don't lie and say the product will fail. Personally, I feel if more detailers were honest about that, they may get more customers like myself where we value honesty and sometimes are just looking for some convenience. For example, I have a P.O.S. car as my commuter. I like keeping it clean, but don't want to spend thousands for a full correction and ceramic, but want the benefits and protection it offers. why not offer a ceramic coating instead of a wax if IDC if there are some swirls under it? But I get it... you are a business and trying to make as much as you can while you can.
@@ThatBeardedVeteran Most people want a quality look, that's why they are using a more expensive product. People would be unhappy if they applied an expensive coating that enhanced the swirl marks in their boats finish. The whole idea of a ceramic coating is a highly polished look that lasts longer than other products. Who would want to highlight the swirl marks in their boat or car.
@@bryanwalton8764 if you go to any random parking lot I would bet that 90%+ of the vehicles have swirl marks. Some people just want the ease of wash aspect that a coating can provide. And I get that a business that applies a coating wants to have the best product out there. My issue isn't with that, it's the fact that they are lying when they say a product won't stick unless you correct the surface. If that is the case that product is garbage and shouldn't be used because there are plenty of other products that will work just as well as long as you wash and decontaminate before applying.
@@ThatBeardedVeteran You are correct, you can apply the ceramic products to surfaces that havent been corrected. You won't get the look that ceramic coating manufactures are selling, advertising or that most people are hoping to achieve with the expensive ceramic coating products. You can spray shellac on a turd but it won't look any better.
As a new boat owner got a ton of good info out of this - going to give polymer a go, thanks much 😀
Awesome! Glad it was helpful :)
Awesome video, thanks for explaining, I think I am ready to work on my boat.
Awesome! 😎 what have you decided?
@@topdockpro I wish I can show you pictures how it was before I bought it. I need to send it first, I am thinking heavy cut, polish and seal it with Jescar power lock. Plus boat has a lot of non skid. What do you think?
Great video Simon! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you for all the insight. This was greatly helpful my friend.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video, very informative and good presentation
Thank you 🙌
Thanks for the feedback man keep grinding !
Thanks for your support 🙌
Smoove Ceramic Shield. Any reviews of that product? Its far less expensive than the ceramics you reviewed. Its doesnt seem as professional though, but gets good reviews.
I do not have reviews but I think it’s worth a shot! Heard good reviews about it
Great explanation, looking forward to see what you think about starke.
Excited to find out and share with you guys!
I got 4 months of it sitting in on my yard. Gulf of Mexico. Jescar. No SiO2. Good advice. Which is best for fiberglass? IYO
Amazing! Nice to see you have experience with Jescar. I prefer the SiO2 polymer. But for fiberglass in general I’m not sure there is a best coating. It depends on what you’re looking for and how you want to maintain the boat
Thanks Simon. As a new boat owner in Southwest Fl this is so helpful. My boat’s non skid deck is just starting to look a little dull. I only have a Griots G9 DA polisher. Do you think it would be ok to skip the heavy cut and just Stark polish (Lake Country orange pad) / Jescar seal then Regular Si02 for maintenance? Keep up the good work.
Likely no, I don’t think it would be a good idea to skip the heavy cut step. 3-steps at the minimum almost always. Jescar & SiO2 for Maintenance ✅
I've applied Jescar and am very happy with it. I am a little confused about what soap will make it last the longest? Its not technically ceramic but is the sio2 soap still the best? I have been using woodys wax extremely dilute but I'm wondering if that stripping it. Thanks
I would use a ph balanced or SiO2 infused soap. Starke carry’s both of these products. Woodys wax is not helping your polymer :)
Oh irish. Thanks for posting.
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Did you ever try out the starke hyper hold? If so how did it work?
Yes, we use Hyper Hold in our business. Great product. Super easy to work with and wipe off your boat. Also... one of the longer lasting sealants on the market.
@@topdockpro perfect. I just ordered some
I use jescar 2 coats on boat then 1 topper coat of 3m wax
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a great strategy for ultimate protection
Can you put the Wax over top of a ceramic coating?
I suppose but I wouldn’t use wax. That’s the reason they make ceramic boosters and maintenance sprays. It fills in the gaps of the coating. I would maintain and recoat as needed. If you want you can put a polymer or ceramic wax over your ceramic coating. Wax won’t do much
$34 for a bottle of powerlock. In Canada we pay $70! Just paid $170 for 2 bottles of menzerna 400 💀.
Crazy! Still worth the season of protection for your boat. In my opinion…
Simon what happens to polymer and ceramic coatings when the shine dims? Are they just naturally burning off or do they require tougher compounding to remove and prep for next coating? I have a large boat and the professional waxing is not cutting it and want to step up to something that lasts the season on the Great Lakes.
They will naturally fade away, at the minimum you should still polish before applying another coat of sealant or ceramic coating
what do you think about permanon yacht supershine i have a formula with imron and i want something easy that will last for 5-6 months
Not sure never used it. You’ll get 5-6 months out Jescar power lock. My go to for marine paints
@@topdockpro what about ultra lock plus over power lock
Not sure. Maybe try it and let me know!!
@@topdockpro used the ultra lock + this past weekend .. was awesome, put it on with the DA , nice thin layer .. let it sit for 45 mins and wiped off with MF cloth .. looks great feels slick .. lets see how long it lasts .
What’s a good si02 coating you recommend ?
Starke Replenish
Simon, on a fiberglass hull that is very lightly oxidized, what do you recommend as the first step towards prepping the hull for polymer or ceramic after good washing? thx, Gary
Starke Level R with wool pad, Starke Elevate with foam pad. Wash the boat again. Do the polymer or do the steps necessary for ceramic coating.
@@topdockpro do you ever use starke ignition? Or Restructure? Or is it pretty much always just level R then elevate? Thanks for the informational video!!
My boat hull is dark blue Awlgrip. Does that change your recommendations?
Definitely no wax on awlgrip. You can still use polymer sealant or ceramic coating
Can you use the Collinite wax and then the polymer sealant?
If you want to do that, the polymer has to be first before the wax
is there a reason you dont use 16:9 on the go pro and use 4:3 instead- with that said i prefer the jescar hands down get the gallon and put it in $1 plastic condiment squueze bottles
I was new to the GoPro at the time. The video quality is very poor. However, I agree Jescar is a great product!
Great Vid! I'm trying to get a few years out of my old gelcoat before I have to re gelcoat the whole boat. I'm currently using rejex, what sio2 do you like best over rejex? Thanks!
They are all similar but I would say Starke Replenish SiO2
@@topdockpro thanks bud!
Have u tried underdog marine coating. U don't need certification
No but I have it in stock. Hoping to try it soon!
Where in michigan are you?
I’m in Florida
If you think a ceramic coating will stop scratches I think you need to get your head examined. If you mean very light scratches then say that. What you said implied ceramic coatings are much more of a miracle coating than they are.
Thanks Patrick, appreciate the comment
I never understand why professional detailers claim ceramic coatings won’t work unless you polish and correct the surface first. That is all just BS marketing so they can charge more for their services. As long as the surface is decontaminated you will be fine. I have ceramic coated a bunch without correcting and have benefited from it without the surface being perfect. The chemical doesn’t know what steps you have taken before using it. The key is decontamination.
We as a company strive for perfection in all our work. I would never seal a gelcoat surface with a wax, sealant, or ceramic if it’s scratched up or oxidized. Decontamination is super important as well.
@@topdockpro I get that as a business but tell people that. don't lie and say the product will fail. Personally, I feel if more detailers were honest about that, they may get more customers like myself where we value honesty and sometimes are just looking for some convenience. For example, I have a P.O.S. car as my commuter. I like keeping it clean, but don't want to spend thousands for a full correction and ceramic, but want the benefits and protection it offers. why not offer a ceramic coating instead of a wax if IDC if there are some swirls under it? But I get it... you are a business and trying to make as much as you can while you can.
@@ThatBeardedVeteran Most people want a quality look, that's why they are using a more expensive product. People would be unhappy if they applied an expensive coating that enhanced the swirl marks in their boats finish. The whole idea of a ceramic coating is a highly polished look that lasts longer than other products. Who would want to highlight the swirl marks in their boat or car.
@@bryanwalton8764 if you go to any random parking lot I would bet that 90%+ of the vehicles have swirl marks. Some people just want the ease of wash aspect that a coating can provide. And I get that a business that applies a coating wants to have the best product out there. My issue isn't with that, it's the fact that they are lying when they say a product won't stick unless you correct the surface. If that is the case that product is garbage and shouldn't be used because there are plenty of other products that will work just as well as long as you wash and decontaminate before applying.
@@ThatBeardedVeteran
You are correct, you can apply the ceramic products to surfaces that havent been corrected. You won't get the look that ceramic coating manufactures are selling, advertising or that most people are hoping to achieve with the expensive ceramic coating products. You can spray shellac on a turd but it won't look any better.
Dude this 3:4 video format si way too old. Better use 16:9, The video is going to get sooo much better
Thank you! I’m still learning