I agree with you that they should Never be allowed back into society. I would not be surprised though if they released them at a future date. The justice system has been flipped wrong side up by the progressive idiots.
So why doesn't anyone do or say anything about making keeping large dangerous mutts as pets illegal? There are so many vicious dog attacks against children the numbers would shock you. Everyone on this stupid planet cares more about their mutts then other people. Even people in their own families! My mom clearly loves and loved her dogs more than me or my sister! If we all treated each other as well as we treat these worthless crap eating, dead body rolling, corner peeing, incessant barking animals we would all be so much better off. I wish the rest of the world would follow Britains lead and made pitt bulls illegal. However if they want to take our guns away here in the states then they need to take the guns away from the police and from the militaries as well. Unfortunately due to human nature there will always be guns. A gun and knife are inanimate objects. They cannot kill or hurt anyone without the action of a human being to work them. Large dangerou bully breed dogs are NOT inanimate objects and can and will hurt people if they get the urge.
Understanding why they act that way is important to see if it could be avoided in a future situation. It’s recognizing that crime and violence is a part of society and culture and that we are all responsible for making our society a better place. Ensuring that there is a way for each potential future offender to have a place that they belong that is safe (physically and emotionally), that they receive the support they need educationally, psychologically, etc… ensuring that parents have the support to learn to be good parents and to be able to provide the care and support (including financially) for their children… if we do nothing, we are allowing the problem to grow by focusing on an “us vs them” mentality. It’s most likely too late for these youth, which means you’re right about them being dangerous and needing to be separated from the general society. But how many more tragedies do we need to hear of or experience before we seek to stop them before they start?
@@kellybraun7048 you are so right for examining what Was done could help those who have problems or emotional issues that need help with. You have to pay attention to the signs.
Yeah it really depends some countries life in prison means about 20 to 25 years in prison some countries take 30 years as life imprisonment so it really depends. But the actual term and definition should be imprisoned for life to death in prison. It's so sad. At times like this I really wish there was the hudud law of Islam where by an eye for an eye is the punishment..
So Life sentence doesn't mean "Jail for life", but that you have a crime on your record, that will forever aggrevate every small thing you do wrong in the future. You can get locked up for misdemeanors that otherwise would make you pay 60 Pounds. In other words, Life sentence is a lifelong aggravating factor for the rest of your life. Its never called a "Life-prison-sentence" but a sentence that includes a *long* prison time, and later on an aggravating factor for future misdemeanors or crimes.
@@JamRock_Jr. Yeah, no thank you. People always cry for "Eye for an Eye" and Death sentences, but as soon as it's getting used on people you are unsure of their crime, it's just wrong, and its no argument that "In these cases its clear" - People will try to make up reasons why it should be expanded to even unsure crimes. I don't want innocent blood on my hands, even if that means a guilty person may live. - Don't get me wrong, im all for Life *prison* sentences, but never "Eye for an Eye" because that one includes killing the person that *might* killed someone
Who sees their friend talk about one teacher that way and 1. keeps on being friend with that person, 2. doesn't say anything? That is absolutely deranged.
it was made for age of television commercials where they would try to catch people switching channels during commercial. The would have to hook them quick and recap the story to spark interest. Fortunately we do not have to endure the advertisements in these types of shows which are Finally coming on to youtube...
Yes, it's incredibly annoying. They literally repeated the same info and scene 5+ times. If it really was produced for TV, they should have just gone over it and cut certain parts before uploading it here.
I don’t understand why people think 20 or 25 years is a long sentence for a murderer, especially when they killed more than once. If it was up to me, they would serve at least 50 years. Think of the years they have taken from their victims!
And I would tie them in a chain gang and let them work and every penny earned go to the families of the victims. Why do people see imprisonment as the ultimate punishment? Of course, taking them out of society is important but to take them out and have them live and eat rent free with no responsibilities??? 👎🏽
Because the “point” of incarceration is “rehabilitation” and we should want them to get better, be better and go on to be contributing members of society. I agree. In a perfect world that makes sense. But my sense of “fair” does not agree. It’s actually something a lot of philosophers have discussed over the years. Philosophy tube does a wonderful video on it if you’d like to learn more. I also think 25 years was fine when people died around 50 and offended around 25. Now that people often younger and live nearly double, the punishment should be 50 years at least.
They were obviously terrified of Will Cornic and justly so. I myself have been around some weird people and the best thing to do is act normal around them.
Unfortunately he's not alone. The Spanish teacher Ann Maguire was stabbed to death in a classroom by 15 yrs old Will Cornick. Cornick also posted his plans on social media but nobody cared.
1:49:00 THIS! What this man said echos my sentiment exactly. You can't just say that young people don't know better due to their youth, environments, and underdeveloped minds. Most people don't make decisions to torture and kill.
Absolutely. I'm sick of hearing of people's upbringing and such. No degree of "abuse" is unique to them, and if it doesn't invariably result in becoming a monster, then it's irrelevant. As for their ADHD, here's a little test: when given a "life" sentence, were they still joking and distracted? disgusting creatures. They should have as much of a chance as they gave their victim. I hate that our society doesn't believe that justice entails retribution.
. . . There were no signs and no way to prevent the teacher from being killed, when he kept telling people and showed kids the knives?? Come on, now, let's take some accountability here. . .
If you were being bullied, why not go after the bullies, instead of two innocent people?! Anyone could claim they hear voices. I'm glad the jury didn't fall for it.
Strange that the prosecution argued he didn't have psychosis, he was convicted on the basis of not having psychosis, yet rather than immediately going to prison, he was sent to a secure psychiatric institution. It's almost as though he has a psychiatric problem...
The case where the 5 kids killed a boy in the Laundry is just heinous and those 5 kids should be in prison for life without the possibility of parole because they are just too dangerous to live in society. I have handled those kinda cases before and have witnessed children do crimes like that and it's very rarely do they change to become a better human being in society therefore those 5 kids should be put being bars for the rest of their entire life without possibility of parole at all.
Having watched and listened to the above video documentary, yes, I believe unfortunately, terribly that some are born evil. I wish that were not the case but it may be possible
@@patttyannhudson thats the problem.. the victims lost their child and these children are later in freed and given a chance and also everything being paid for. so imagine what closure did the victim have knowing later on their childrens killer are gonna be free and be in society.. and even the studies are paid for by the government. just imagine this. it really has happen. all these clearly sending a wrong message
I will never understand how not one student alerted the school or the teacher about cornices intensions Even when he showed the knives to the other students in the day even the student he winked at as he was about to do it !! No warning at all just tragic. RIP
@@ryleebrettsmommy2704Girl, don’t act like being a teenager gives anyone an excuse to not know right from wrong to such an extend. Crazy. Imagine he would have gotten a member of your family and everyone would have known before but not said anything. Would you still say that?
My sophomore and junior years in highschool, I had the same literature teacher. I didn't really care for her my sophomore year but really disliked her my junior year. She went out of her way to embarrass me in front of the class and often spent class time to berate me. I finally got tired of it and I just gave it right back to her. She gave us an assignment to take lyrics from a song and discuss the poetic characteristics. I did Metallica's To Live is to Die. After I was done, she told me I had brought filth into the classroom and that I had no respect for authority. She threw me out of class and sent me to the office. The vice principal actually laughed when I explained the situation and he sent me back to class. When I went back to class, it was over. I walked in and she told me that I wasn't very smart and I didn't need to think about college. I put my books in my backpack and told her that she was a failure as an educator. After that she hated my guts for the rest of the year. She would throw insults at me from time to time during class. I would just smile at her, it would send her into fits. I spent a lot of time in the office. I still did my assignments but she would grade them harshly. I made straight B's in her class. She actually called my mom near the end of the year to complain about me. My mom hung up on her.
This is amazing, your resilience and maturity to deal with such a poor excuse of a teacher is admirable. I was also bullied by a few teachers in high school, but didn't have the courage to give it back to them so I spent a lot of high school struggling with my mental health as a result. Bad teachers ruin children's lives, I have no idea why people like that even want to teach or are able to hold their teaching positions. I lived vicariously through your story, knowing that there's people out there who fought back brings a smile to my face.
I have type 1 diabetes. Diagnosed at age 10. Never if I did something like Will did, would I even think to use my diabetes as some sort of excuse for my actions. I also suffered my parents divorce at age 15. There's just no excuse for taking another's life.
The only thing I can think of that could be diabetes related is if he suffered brain damage during is coma before he was diagnosed. Especially since he changed so significantly after that event!
he literally talked about it for months and showed a kid the knife he had in his bag and no one said anything, AND THEN the "review" said there was "no obvious signs" just because there was no "hx of offending". You know who didnt have any hx of offending? chris watts and he killed his pregnant wife and two small daughters. Absolute BS. Everyone who he talked to about killing her and didnt say anything, contributed to her death.
@@danutahanyga4834 I don't think it has to do with geography. In the USA we have children or students who bomb schools we payed attention to Columbine 1999 and the Parkland shooting 2022. I think it's a generation problem. I can only speak from experience I am a Generation X baby and yes I went to school with bad children and yes some students may have talked backed to the teacher but never threatened a teacher. Teacher told you to get out of class and report to the principal office. You got the pink slip detention and your parents had to come to school to talk to the principal. When I was growing up the worst thing you is to have your parent miss work. Spanking your children is considered abuse.Ask any Depression Era, Baby Boomer Generation X and some Generation Z children did we blow up schools no we weren't saints we had chores we didn't have phone's to record misdeeds. Somehow we failed these students by constantly rewarding them with video games clothing and phones
I've worked in mental wards & facilities since 1993. I often wonder, if more people understood that as a prisoner, you are afforded more rights & recourse than a patient in a mental ward, would they still attempt to use that defense? If you are in a mental ward with very violent patients because you yourself are deemed one, how do they think the staff is going to be able to protect them 24/7? We have always had nursing shortages, especially in these dangerous facilities. If the only eyes on you 24/7 are CCTV, then whatever another patient(s) do to you can only be dealt with after the fact, not before. How many of them would change their mind & never commit the heinous crimes in the 1st place if they knew that.
@celticmama98 - You make a very good point. I think there are some crap defence lawyers out there who advise their clearly guilty clients to play the mental health card to get a "softer" option than a proper jail. I like how juries these days rarely buy into the "voices in my head told me to do it" rubbish.
What I have learned that a lot of youngsters are narcissistic. Don’t underestimate what a human being can do to another. Read the sign and take them serious.
The kid that killed his teacher just wanted to kill someone, he had no usual behavioural issues, no home issues, she did nothing to provoke him, he just wanted to kill and didn't like her so he picked her. There are no mitigating factors, he should have gotten a bit longer.
@barry he did come from home problems and emotional issues;he told people that he was going to do this. There was factors in this story but it still doesn't change what he did.
Grown "professional" - "there was nothing about him that would say Will could do something like this" 15 year old high school kid before knowing anything at all- "It was Will wasn't it?!"
My bestfriend has been a knife fanatic since we were in grade school and was even suspended/expelled for bringing knives to school. He owns a multi million dollar knife company today.
Wow, It's so sad for all who died. The last story with the 5 kids was really crazy.But, what they did to Sean & how they acted in courtroom & after what they did they showed no remorse .They deserve what they got.
Being led by someone with the IQ showing a mentality of a 6-7 year old, leads me to not be surprised by their courtroom behavior. They should stay put where they are, hopeless.
They were used to him making statements about death and dying, and they are kids! they do not expect things like that to happen like an adult maybe would.
they give him a Dr because they believe he can be redeemed and become a better person. Does that sound familiar. and society believes that sticking someone who has committed a lot of killings to rot in a cell for life is more humane than just killing them. people would be less likely to commit heinous crimes if instead of life its death. think about three meals? a day dealing with other crazies. even in prison no one wants to mess with some insane psychopath that would kill you as soon as he looks at you.
Will's eyes look so devoid of anything. He looks so detached from the world. How sad that these kids ruined their lives and the lives of so many others so early on. Tragic.
What does turning 18 have to do with psychopathy? “Oh you said you’re 17 and exhibiting the Macdonald triad? Oh well no worries, we can’t diagnose you.” “Wait you said 19? I’m psychopath for sure.”
It's very sad to see these youngsters destroy their own lives and the lives of others through their actions and choices they made themselves. God have mercy on us all
Its sad that people are allowed to multiply when incompetent, incapable, and/or choose to have children for the wrong reasons. Plain, simple. If they were interviewed prior to pregnancy and throughout the life of the family - maybe. If they just come up pregnant - not allowed. If on welfare - not allowed. Etc. If not mentallt, emotionally, financially able to parent a child - no child. I said PARENT a child, not "raise" one. Animals in the wild teach tbeir young how to live independently. Few are born knowing what to do automatically - except of course lizards and snakes which is where tbe term "cold blooded" comes from. Parents who DON'T do their job, do HARD TIME, TOO, unless and ONLY unless, its PROVEN by medical, educational, records, that theyd tried EVERYTHING, including seeking help from the "give birth permission squad". Trust me most if not all of the bs in the world would END.
Very true. A sad little memory from elementary school when one of my friends really needed to go to the bathroom but froze instead of asking. Thankfully the teacher was kind to some of the kids, so she took care of this little girl very kindly. I remember my relief for her case, but I also realized that there are certain differences between kids, and from then on I was really, really scared of the same thing happening to me because I knew I that teacher didn't have patience with me. I would not be treated with such kindness. My only guess is that I was a pale, kind of ugly, nervous little kid and such kids certainly aren't very popular. Well, life kept going and it got better, until unfortunately the love of my life to my horrible sorrow died 3 weeks ago. I am so grateful to get the chance to love him, and to receive his amazing love. I hope all of you find your love, but that it last longer than it did for me.
I and everyone I know have watched all that kind of material when we were teens. We used to watch some heinous stuff. This is natural for young boys to do. These boys obviously had physical defects in their brains where they didn't have the hormones or chemicals that produced the proper emotions that most people have. I f a Dr. had told these kids why they behaved this way maybe the kids would not have done these heinous things.
In the US, it would have been considered the teacher's fault that she was stabbed and the family of the boy would have sued the school and the victim's family for their child being accosted by the police! The teacher's family would have been told that she 'singled him out' for unfair discipline and did not consider his emotional and psychological trauma when she disciplined him for not doing his school work and for going on the field trip. It would have been her responsibility for harassing him into murdering her,
And it would help the community if the adults made sure the teenagers had activities that they could participate in. Sports arts/theater various things that teens are interested in that are positive. If we dont guide them they will come up with something because teens have a lot of energy and they hate being bored.
Absolutely agree with this. It some how depends on peer pressure when kids are in their adolescent stage. When kids are in their adolescence they need proper guidance and strict vigilance. We never know what may trigger their young untamed minds. Some of them may develop intense love for their beautiful teacher. On the other hand some of them may develop intense hate against their teachers. Which ultimately leads to such situations.
All the classmates known what was about to happen but not one opened their mouths, not even when he was walking up on her with the knife. Was it shock or was they looking forward to see if he was going to follow through with it🤷🏽♀️ No one called her name to at less let her get a fighting chance
It's called the bystander effect. Nobody does anything because they expect somebody else will do something. There was a woman who was stabbed and she was in the street screaming for help and none of her neighbors called the police because they thought that another neighbor must have already done it. She died because nobody did a damn thing . Moral of the story here is If you see something don't assume that someone else is going to take care of it, do something about it yourself.
He most definitely knew right from wrong. Once you’re past the age of development into puberty, you truly know right from wrong, and there’s no excuse for his actions absolutely none. My condolences go out to the teachers, family, friends,fellow students and faculty that truly cared and loved their beloved, family, member and teacher💟🛐🙏🏾
Seriously? The prefrontal cortex performs reasoning, planning, judgment, and impulse control, necessities for being an adult. Without the fully development prefrontal cortex, a teen might make poor decisions and lack the inability to discern whether a situation is safe. . Teens tend to experiment with risky behavior and don’t fully recognize the consequences of their choices. A Teen’s Brain Isn’t Fully Developed Until Age 25-26. Another example is the way that the amygdala functions differently in those that have mental illness. However, traumatic experiences can have a significant impact on a teen’s brain development.
@@diaryofarealmom3264 You're correct that the brain is finally developed in our 20s. However, children between the ages of 7 to 15 know right from wrong. I'm Canadian now but was born in France where the age of 7 is called "The age of reason". Children enter a period where they develop an understanding of right from wrong, ar least at their level. 7 year olds know it is wrong to hurt others, to steal, to mock, etc. You say that teens don't fully grasp the consequences of their actions... As a teen I knew very well that smoking or walking on a dark road were "bad" for me, that stealing would send me to jail, that lying was wrong and certainly that killing someone was beyond "bad"!!!
I knew right from wrong before puberty. Just because the brain keeps growing till mid 20's doesn't mean we are incapable of making good decisions. Not too long ago people were getting married in their teens and raising families. Children worked on the farms helping out. Now we coddle teens like they're toddlers. We,as a society, have stunned their emotional maturity.
The teachers desk is often near the door. As shocked as you are, most people would subconsciously stay frozen rather than put themselves in the path of a mama with a knife. I don’t know how much reaction time there was.
Too many people think kids don’t need psychiatric help. I’m so mad that most people say “there were no signs.” No, you mean “we ignored the signs. Because we didn’t want to deal with it.” Smart kids should be watched as well. The pressure to be “perfect” is there and it leads to superiority complex and an inferiority complex. They come to thinking they are smarter than everyone else and think they won’t face any consequences because they think they won’t get caught.
The story of the voices doesn’t really hang together well. Schizophrenics are not organized in this way and their voices rarely council violence toward others, it’s usually voices which tell them that they are worthless, evil etc. They might be violent out of fear but planned homicides? No. Schizophrenia doesn’t come and go either, once the disease manifests it is constant outside of treatment, they don’t present as normal except for these short spells n which he murders. Sociopathy can be quite organized but co existing sociopathy and schizophrenia would be exceedingly unusual. It has happened but not in the scenario that this boy demonstrates.
All those kids who knew, knew that he had become obsessed with killing her but no one said a word. My God in heaven. He should be locked up forever, evil is not a mental disease.
Hi here in the US minors are tried as adults that little s o b will be tried as an adult and locked up for at least 25 years maybe almost 30 but now someone in 2012 someone passed a law that are trying to abolish this law but we are trying that bad seed Connick will have been locked up for a long time you can believe it
1:17:18 "A boy had successfully deceived three psychiatrists." 1. He would only have had to read 1-2 personal accounts from actually psychotic people, to concoct his "voices". 2. He was organized in speech and behaviour, with no instances of change to either one; there was nothing different about him until he said he had voices, AFTER he was caught. No... definitely not psychotic, no "voices". -Deceiving psychiatrists can be shockingly easy, as we are used to rely on the words of the patient. Especially when the psychiatrists are picked by the DEFENSE. The psychiatrist for the prosecution was not "deceived", neither am I. -Also, most psychiatrists are predisposed (I want to say programmed) to find some illness or disorder. It's like they don't believe in evil.
If all the things being said about this young boy are accurate, then this seems to be a perfect case for nature over nurture. Though rare, some kids are truly just born bad. Pretty scarey. I wonder if he cares about his life being taken away? And why can't a person be diagnosed as a psychopath until they're 18? I would think they could, if the attributes are there.
Oh, you know the truth about the boys life? No child is born bad - but early abuse and neglect change the brain structure! In a time, where a child can‘t even remember!!! And do you think that someone will really admit what he has done to him??? 🙄
Every seen the twilight zone from the 80s theres an episode about genetic evil in it. It's about people who bury themselves in the mud for 17 years like locusts when they come out they're old and they grow backwards over the course of three days and then have to bury themselves again for 17 years if they do not get a kill in that time they die. So they are genetically evil beings.
Killing or torturing animals is an early sign and as an animal lover , I say that’s pure evil when a child should be protecting a smaller, vulnerable species. Learned at home.
I would advise against it. When you are claiming insanity, you're being evaluated every 2 years. And every 2 years you can get another 2 years indefinitely. It's a lot more demanding, because you actually have to comply with all treatment offered while in prison you just have to wait it out.
Not saying this is the case with him exactly but I completely believe that people can hear voices and still carry out a crime In a smart and organized way
When you're in a psychotic state and you kill someone it's quite different than someone who has prepared by taking a knife hiding Etc. A psychotic murder is very disorganized.
What makes me mad is I’m from Compton california, my dad was in and out of prison for gang violence my mother was a dope head and I never once thought about killing someone…. Yes it took a lot but I hung with some hardcore gang members and never once in my mind I said “cause of my environment I want to kill” I forced myself to play sports to get myself out of city
You can be sure that whoever or whatever taught him his madness is still teaching it to others, and by his act, and before his act, he was teaching it to others. Did no one ever tell him not to murder, and why not to murder? If someone tells me that they are going to kill someone, or kill themselves, I call in the people who deal with such madness. People who do not understand right from wrong are insane, and after a certain age, its a bit late, and there is then little to no hope of changing one"s mentality, one's concepts of right and wrong.
They didn't take him seriously... and even if they had told on him...they can't do anything but talk to him. They weren't going to lock him up. Nothing was going to stop him.
An accessory would be someone who helped. Told him when her back was turned, if another teacher was coming, got him the knife or whatever. The responsibility to warn her or report it beforehand is a moral one and no criminal charges can be brought for that.
When I was in school a teacher went out of his way to bully me in subtle horrible ways, it was constant. I begin to plot his death, for months I planned it, then one day I realised I needed to straighten out my thinking and not give him power over my future.
I remember now after reading this how i was bullied so bad by my math teacher 👩🏫 I went home to cold blue feet after a camping ⛺️ trip my dad made her quit her job but it’s not enough
Someone’s state of mind should have no bearing on whether or not a person goes to prison. The victim is still dead, and they did it. Hey, if they’re insane, tell them you’re sending them on an extended, all expenses paid holiday at an exclusive resort. The courts sometimes seem to lose sight of who the real victim is!
Absolutely. Anyone capable of killing a person obviously has something wrong with them. I don’t care where on the scale their mental illness is. Once they have intentionally killed they have to be put away from the rest of us. Preferably forever.
These kids words need to be taken a lot more serious nowadays. They need to be held accountable if they say anything about killing another individual. There needs to be zero tolerance for any type of language. Ann Maguire’s tragic death was avoidable
I know a lot of people won’t agree with this but, we need to allow spanking again, take away participation trophies and teach boy to be boys and that it’s okay to grow into men. When you talk to kids, you present and they quickly grow to think they are peers, not children. They develop the same u tame and brutal logic that legitimate serial killers develop, whereby kill is somehow a solution.
WOrds mean nothing without actions. DO you know how many kids say they wish they could stab so and so? Millions. Even I said things like that as a kid because I was being a dumb kid who was angry in the moment. These kids were obviously mentally ill for one reason or another but arresting someone for saying something everyone would be in jail. Everyone on Earth is a liar and everyone on Earth thinks and talks about doing dark things now and again. It's called the human condition. People like you that think this kind of thing can be stopped by arresting everyone who says something dark and disturbing apparently think it's possible to change the human also known as the mammalian condition. Animals kill each other for variety of reason always have always will. Unless there is an action after the words then the only thing that should be done is trying to talk to the person and figure out why they feel this way. If they say something to a psychiatrist they want to to hurt people on several occasions then maybe they should be removed from society. But not thrown into jail. Usually people like this are in horrible environments or have genetic conditions that they have no control over. Neither you nor anyone else on Earth can stop the killing of humans by another humans unless we someone find a way to radically alter the genes of humanity as a whole. since these actions usually come from the survival instincts of a person then we would all just die if we removed those. We would become apathetic simpletons who didn't care if we lived or died. We would have no ambition to stay alive or do anything to improve our lives. Unfortunately due to the survival instincts humans will always be this way. The only time we should be sticking people in jail is if they have done something NOT SAID SOMETHING to warrant it because they are KNOWN not SUSPECTED danger to themselves or others. Nobody asked to b thrust onto this dangerous planet so we all need to be a little more empathetic towards each other true, but there will always be those who have become physically and/or mentally ill.
People really need change how they profile killers. Childhood bad or good doesn't decide what a person will do. How someone appears looks or acts (aka shy or is attractive) doesn't tell you this person is a killer. It's in the wiring of the brain. The monsters hide in plain sight. People literally need to do the see something say something. Hear something tell someone. And it needs to investigated. Every time. Schools need more therapist/guidance. The brain is the key.
I'm glad those boys are going to prison see how tough they are now what they did to that poor boy it's horrific May Sean rest in peace my prayers go out to his family
I would be scared at that age to do anything in the moment when the teacher was getting stabbed. I’d think that he would do the same thing to the rest of us. However, he told multiple people who did nothing about it. Those people should hold themselves responsible as well. Also, I understand no one that age can be diagnosed a psychopath yet. But the brain develops until around 25 in males. If it starts this early, it typically delves deeper. I don’t think any of these people should be free. But it’s Britain, so they likely will be. Which is scary.
The amount of questions I have for you as a medical nerd is unreal. If it isn't too much of a reach, please could you DM me? I would love to, in a totally non ironic way, pick your brain.
WHY WAS THAT BOY BEING INTERVIEWED NOT CHARGED AS AN ACCESSORY BEFORE THE FACT, AS WELL AS ALLTHE OTHER PUPILS WHO KNEW WHAT HE WAS PLANNING. IT'S INCONCEIVABLE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALSO HELD RESPONSIBLE.
It's very possible the diabetic coma caused brain trauma. History of head injuries seem to be common of a lot of serial killers. I understand why kids didn't take his threats seriously at first, UK doesn't have much hx of students breaking out in bloodlust, but I'm horrified none of the students tried to stop him once he began to carry it out, he doesn't seem like he was large, he could've been overpowered.
Also no one talks about basic meal patterned brain development which can be serious and deadly. Oftentimes one day it's there and another day it's not and sometimes it takes up to age 25 for the male brain to mature
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. He didn’t like the teacher ! He KILLED the teacher . He was calculating and hateful. It’s called EVIL. Brain injury? 😂😂😂 Unbelievable
How horrible it must be for Shaun's parents, families and girlfriend to listen to how people make up excuses for the killers actions, it's disgusting. I'm shaking my head watching this because everyone has a sense of right and wrong regardless of how you grew up or where you grew up. RIP Shaun from us in Australia
I found it outrageous that those voices never say, go to an elderly person and mow their yard. Or help someone out in some other way. They always want you to kill, pretty much like bs to me.
I worked with schizophrenic people in my career as an RN. Believe me their voices were hideous. I don't know about this guy, but my patients were in fact told to kill themselves, that they were ugly, stupid, horrible etc 24/7, sometimes they said they were screamed at. None were told to hurt others thankfully, but they did harmed themselves. I have severe chronic pain 24/7 and had to retire but I would rather have this pain than even one day with schizophrenia.
The voices are almost always negative. I work in forensic psychiatry and have a patient who actually cut half his nose off. But you don't notice those people who have very negative voices telling them they're worthless and deserve to die. Not so long ago a patient cut his own throat and it was a blood bath.
Maybe they do…and you’ve got yourself a decent kid. My son would help the oldies at Christmas. He would go shopping for them, hang decorations for them, and visit them. He’d then go take their decorations down lol. He’s in the military now, because he feels that need to help.
This goes to show that there are so many feelings in someones childhood, if it's mostly there own or a parent's, that are'nt felt. That lack of empathy I think some how learnt from observing someone who's not caring about something that matters.
We just had a school shooting that many children were Swiss Cheese.Try and use your explanation to the parent whose children that were mortally deformed and the police allowed this shooting. Listen I grew up with a neglected childhood bullied at school and my sister was raped by our step-dad and she became pregnant. She kept my niece. She was only 13 years old but she looked 9. We somehow became productive members of society. So who cares about your childhood when you harm others. Prison are full of people who were abused just like honest people who have been abused. It's your choice of how you want to live your life.
@@nicolebailey4426 But, when a small child grows up after living like that, there are ALWAYS effects, even if you deny it doesn't. Some turn to drugs, or alcohol, and some can't manage to stay in relationships, They might live a life of loneliness, and not be able to keep a job, maybe become homeless. And, I'll bet, your sister isn't REALLY okay, deep down in her soul. It ALWAYS stays with you, because you can't erase your childhood, or the emotions, that go along with abuse I'm a woman and have very low self-esteem. I always believed nobody liked me, I'm basically a recluse, and live out in the country, by myself on a farm. I have the ringer turned off on my phone, and rarely answer it. My one sister is the only one I'll let into my house. I was horrifically physically abused in school by a bully twice my size, for over 5 years, she was never punished, and when she would beat me so bad, my eyes were swollen shut, and my face was swollen and discolored from bruising. (I also, had a "stepfather", and a brother-in-law, if you know what I mean). My mom would send me to my aunt's house in another state until I healed. Once, my bully beat me so bad, My eyes were hemorrhaging, and I couldn't even hold my head up, my neck muscles were so weak, I literally had to hold my head up with my hands while walking home. There were tons of kids cheering her on, every time. I was terrified to leave the house because she was always "hunting me". I BEGGED not to go to school. My real father abandoned ONLY me...he had a great relationship with my siblings, hence the feeling nobody likes me. I never committed a crime, did drugs or drank, graduated from college with a degree in science, and got a great job that I would do for free, but, it pays well. I'm an attractive woman, so I've been told, nice and compassionate...so basically, I turned out just fine...but, I DIDN'T...did I? So, I have a DOG, And I love her so much, more than people, and, I would die for her...but, she's the only one, I let into my life.
@@danni1993 I'm sorry you went through your turmoil I suffered from some abuse in my childhood as well. Despite what happened to you, You chose to do good. Alot of prisoners come from bad homes. However, just like I believe just because you had a rotten childhood I don't deserve to be your victim. Either get help or kill yourself. One song I love this song by Mary J Blige is No more Drama. Only God knows how the story begins for me but I chose to Win.
@@nicolebailey4426 Wow, you have been through a lot along with your sister. Your comments effected me deeply and I wish you and your sister ALL the best!! You made a great statement. Thank you
They all do it because they enjoy it. They love the power, control, the stealing of life, revenge, winning, the fear caused…it’s not a mystery why they do it.
We blame everything except the kids. It's voices in the head, or poverty, or problematic family life, or peer pressure, violent games, pronography etc... How about the kids are just differently wired? They have the propensity to become criminals.
Someone in the room could've at least warned the teacher about the killer walking towards her with a knife. Those kids should be ashamed of themselves.
I mean to be fair they could of had their heads down doing their school work and not paid attention to him walking in. But ya, you'd think atleast 1 of them would of seen him coming. Probably in shock though.
how is possible that no other student alert the teacher, and how no one helped her in the classroom when he was going to stab her showing a knife that was big as half of him.
I would think it only 2nd nature to cry out some kind of warning. Everyone would respond differently, some frozen, some crying out some kind of sound. Even small children. It's not a heroic action so it begs the question, why there was no warning to alert this poor woman. Don't think it's suggested any of these teens rush him to disarm. It feels like kids have become numb. It was called bystander apathy where each figured someone else would report his threats. This too says something sad about society in general
I hate that when people divorce, they act like they're the only victim, with sorrow and pain, etc. But never thought their children went through twice the heartbreak of the parent. And specially hate the " i love you son, i will always, you're father and i tried but we can't work out it seems.". Why does it take you like more than 5 years to know you're not meant to be together.... Just say you're bored of your married life and want to runaway. I'm so sad and angry with these irresponsible parents.
Yup I agree. The worst is when divorced parents only ever have one child and then put pressure on a young child to CHOOSE who they want to be with on holidays then throw tantrums and guilt trips when they don't get it their way.
I don't think divorce is that black and white. What if your spouse was having an affair? And wouldn't end it? What if your spouse started doing drugs or drinking excessively? What if your spouse treated their children terribly? Or became abusive?? What if divorce was to give their children a better future in a healthier environment than the one they were in?? My opinion is your comment is pretty ridiculous.
@@ashleyrose4115 that a$$hole spouse is also the parent of the child, so its still irresponsible parent. The one who is not at fault is not to blame there, but the other parent.
The more students tell authorities the better even if they were scared they can tell police they fear Will will hunt them down if he knew they reported..what's worse standing by watching a murder or doing your best as a decent human trying to protect another from loosing their life? I wouldn't sit and watch my teacher be murdered. Those other students /people on social media, were pre warned he was going to kill..and showed the knives...they should of told police asap
How can they say there was no sign of how dangerous he was when he expressed himself so clearly? The voices in my head defense comes up so often. I wonder why people think that will work. Maybe it's part of psychopathy, thinking you can make people believe anything. On the subject of rehabilitation or young criminals changing over time, check out the interviews of the mansion family members.
@@jmdenison Unfortunately the adult was in need of help. How can they obey and respect an adult their teacher. 7 times stabbing and nobody got help or jump this kid. A gun is one thing but you can disarm a person with a knife
@@nicolebailey4426 because they are kids, not adults. and stabbing makes no noise and takes just 2 or 3 seconds no time to jump up and do anything. the kids were concentrating on their studies and had their heads down and minds on their work. stabbing is silent, and she probably didn't even cry out because even she didn't know what was going on. you can easily stab someone with a knife 7 times quickly and no one will know. try it on your whole chicken next time at dinner prep while your husband is reading a book in the kitchen nearby and see if he notices anything. Use a medium 7" blade boning knife. sharpen it first and make sure it passes the cucumber or tomato test. (slight pressure to produce shaved whole razor thin slices)
Do the crime pay for the crime life in prison no parole. My heart weeps for the families for the loss of their loved ones ♥️ RIP Beautiful Victims 🦋💐🌈💜💙
I had a teacher I hated with a passion. She is to this day still 1 of the most evil people I've ever met. I found a way to get rid of her without having to commit a crime though.
I have a sister-in-law, her youngest son and his wife who are teachers, and I can’t begin to imagine the grief it would cause our families if this were to happen to any of them.
38:50 ~ why is it surprising that he neglected to show remorse, when given the chance, afterwards. Wouldn’t the state of him having remorse preclude his ability to commit the crime in the first place?
The TV psychiatrist says you cant be psychotic while committing a murder and then lucid enough afterwards to cover your tracks... is this true? Very curious.
I think they're getting into the legal definition for insanity. If there is planning and if there is cover up afterward it's unlikely that one would be declared insane.
@@UnknownCharacterof2024 I knew someone who had what he called psychotic breaks when things got too much, where hed throw and break things, even things he valued, and then regret it afterwards when he had come out of it. I believe this to be a genuine thing..
Why for the life of me if other people knew why someone didn't warn her, It sounded like a spoiled rotten kid that couldn't get what he wanted. No rules for him but know there is.
There is a multitude of teachers being assaulted and verbally abused by either students and/or parents on a daily basis and this is not reported in the news until someone actually dies. Teaching is no longer for the faint hearted, trust me.
My heart goes out to any teacher who has to put up with nonsense You can't learn anything without a teacher. School used to be home away from home. Also teacher's have their own children and they miss out on their learning watching your badass children.
I disagree. Many children commit horrible crimes when they are very young and especially boys during the ages of 15 to 25 and apparently scientists have discovered it's just part of normal male brain development. Many of them go on to be wonderful kind caring people that commit no more crimes. It's just children can be very dangerous between the ages of 15 and 25. It's just brain wiring and brain development. Unfortunately it's normal in human beings
I wonder why none of the students came forward to tackle him before he had the chance to step or at least after the first of realizing that they could help
If other students knew he had his knife on him and he talked about what he was going to do why did not any of them go to the school officials or even the teacher herself it could’ve been Prevented
Because no one believed him. Kids aren't like adults. They believe all the other kids are listening to adults and it was to what other kids say is nonsense
Weird to not really believe something is gonna happen but also be afraid of being the snitch or afraid of turning his ire on them--the brain works to explain things away and make abnormal things normal to survive.
@@jmdenison idk if it's just because I'm American and American school kids have unfortunately learned to never take that stuff lightly, but I'm 16 and I feel like myself AND many, not all, but many, of my peers would tell someone. It baffles me he told a whole class and then some and no one took it seriously but I guess that kind of stuff also just doesn't really happen in Britain like it happens here so I guess maybe they weren't expecting it🤷♀️
@@jessbach4795 I don't think anyone was expecting it but I do not expect children and I do not want other children to confront a dangerous psychotic teen boy with a knife who has already stabbed a teacher 100 times. the police would agree and so would the parents. they are not skilled or trained to take any action against a crazed killer.
I believe it depends on the individual child. How many cases have we heard where children sacrificed themselves to save others? Especially during school shootings.I don't think you can hold every child underneath the same umbrella based on a belief that a child will not act like an adult in an emergency situation. Some children have and do act heroically in certain circumstances.
Understanding why they act like they do, doesn't change the fact that they are dangerous and should never be let loose on society.
I agree with you that they should Never be allowed back into society. I would not be surprised though if they released them at a future date. The justice system has been flipped wrong side up by the progressive idiots.
British justice... this kid will get out when he's 35 and laugh and walk the streets and party.... lol
So why doesn't anyone do or say anything about making keeping large dangerous mutts as pets illegal? There are so many vicious dog attacks against children the numbers would shock you. Everyone on this stupid planet cares more about their mutts then other people. Even people in their own families! My mom clearly loves and loved her dogs more than me or my sister! If we all treated each other as well as we treat these worthless crap eating, dead body rolling, corner peeing, incessant barking animals we would all be so much better off. I wish the rest of the world would follow Britains lead and made pitt bulls illegal. However if they want to take our guns away here in the states then they need to take the guns away from the police and from the militaries as well. Unfortunately due to human nature there will always be guns. A gun and knife are inanimate objects. They cannot kill or hurt anyone without the action of a human being to work them. Large dangerou bully breed dogs are NOT inanimate objects and can and will hurt people if they get the urge.
Understanding why they act that way is important to see if it could be avoided in a future situation. It’s recognizing that crime and violence is a part of society and culture and that we are all responsible for making our society a better place. Ensuring that there is a way for each potential future offender to have a place that they belong that is safe (physically and emotionally), that they receive the support they need educationally, psychologically, etc… ensuring that parents have the support to learn to be good parents and to be able to provide the care and support (including financially) for their children… if we do nothing, we are allowing the problem to grow by focusing on an “us vs them” mentality. It’s most likely too late for these youth, which means you’re right about them being dangerous and needing to be separated from the general society. But how many more tragedies do we need to hear of or experience before we seek to stop them before they start?
@@kellybraun7048 you are so right for examining what Was done could help those who have problems or emotional issues that need help with. You have to pay attention to the signs.
18 years is a life sentence?
No, being imprisoned for life is a life sentence.
Yeah, it aggravates me, too... Because 18 years isn't a life sentence. Yes, it's a very long time in jail, but it's not life. Life is forever.
Yeah it really depends some countries life in prison means about 20 to 25 years in prison some countries take 30 years as life imprisonment so it really depends. But the actual term and definition should be imprisoned for life to death in prison. It's so sad. At times like this I really wish there was the hudud law of Islam where by an eye for an eye is the punishment..
So Life sentence doesn't mean "Jail for life", but that you have a crime on your record, that will forever aggrevate every small thing you do wrong in the future. You can get locked up for misdemeanors that otherwise would make you pay 60 Pounds.
In other words, Life sentence is a lifelong aggravating factor for the rest of your life. Its never called a "Life-prison-sentence" but a sentence that includes a *long* prison time, and later on an aggravating factor for future misdemeanors or crimes.
@@JamRock_Jr. Yeah, no thank you. People always cry for "Eye for an Eye" and Death sentences, but as soon as it's getting used on people you are unsure of their crime, it's just wrong, and its no argument that "In these cases its clear" - People will try to make up reasons why it should be expanded to even unsure crimes.
I don't want innocent blood on my hands, even if that means a guilty person may live. - Don't get me wrong, im all for Life *prison* sentences, but never "Eye for an Eye" because that one includes killing the person that *might* killed someone
@@Schluviel an 18 year sentence is still a joke since the teacher is still dead.
Who sees their friend talk about one teacher that way and 1. keeps on being friend with that person, 2. doesn't say anything? That is absolutely deranged.
Right! It sounds cliché but; See something, say something, for Christ's sake!
People have changed in the last half century and steadily getting worse!! . That's for sure.
Severe immaturity.
i love the way the psycologyst sits there and says nobody could have known... eyeroll.
Middle is not violent
I love this show, I wish they wouldn’t repeat over and over the same thing. Each episode would take half the time.
it was made for age of television commercials where they would try to catch people switching channels during commercial. The would have to hook them quick and recap the story to spark interest. Fortunately we do not have to endure the advertisements in these types of shows which are Finally coming on to youtube...
Yeah, that I didn't care much for. Repeating what they had already said. That made it annoying to me.
Yes, it's incredibly annoying. They literally repeated the same info and scene 5+ times.
If it really was produced for TV, they should have just gone over it and cut certain parts before uploading it here.
I listen on 1.25 speed, try it, it's a good speed and saves time.
Cheers.
For real!!
I don’t understand why people think 20 or 25 years is a long sentence for a murderer, especially when they killed more than once. If it was up to me, they would serve at least 50 years. Think of the years they have taken from their victims!
He stole her life so his should be stolen too
And I would tie them in a chain gang and let them work and every penny earned go to the families of the victims. Why do people see imprisonment as the ultimate punishment? Of course, taking them out of society is important but to take them out and have them live and eat rent free with no responsibilities??? 👎🏽
Death penalty should be meted out to this murderer...a life for a life.
Because the “point” of incarceration is “rehabilitation” and we should want them to get better, be better and go on to be contributing members of society. I agree. In a perfect world that makes sense. But my sense of “fair” does not agree. It’s actually something a lot of philosophers have discussed over the years. Philosophy tube does a wonderful video on it if you’d like to learn more.
I also think 25 years was fine when people died around 50 and offended around 25. Now that people often younger and live nearly double, the punishment should be 50 years at least.
UK always gives lighter sentences!
But then, cops don't carry guns, either.
He went back into the classroom and sat down and NONE of the other children ran out screaming. They just sat there.
They were obviously terrified of Will Cornic and justly so. I myself have been around some weird people and the best thing to do is act normal around them.
🙄 We're birthing Zombies, seriously I'd hope my kids would get off there butts and check. 🤷🤷🤷👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉
I don't understand how none of the students did anything to stop him.
When he showed his classmates the knives you would have thought at least one of them would have told a teacher or the head.
How is it that no one seems to believe someone when they talk about killing someone. Any threat should be taken seriously.
Unfortunately he's not alone. The Spanish teacher Ann Maguire was stabbed to death in a classroom by 15 yrs old Will Cornick. Cornick also posted his plans on social media but nobody cared.
You are absolutely right
Agree with you.
6:42 and no other student tried to help her, just wow
1:49:00 THIS! What this man said echos my sentiment exactly. You can't just say that young people don't know better due to their youth, environments, and underdeveloped minds. Most people don't make decisions to torture and kill.
Absolutely. I'm sick of hearing of people's upbringing and such. No degree of "abuse" is unique to them, and if it doesn't invariably result in becoming a monster, then it's irrelevant. As for their ADHD, here's a little test: when given a "life" sentence, were they still joking and distracted? disgusting creatures. They should have as much of a chance as they gave their victim. I hate that our society doesn't believe that justice entails retribution.
. . . There were no signs and no way to prevent the teacher from being killed, when he kept telling people and showed kids the knives?? Come on, now, let's take some accountability here. . .
If you were being bullied, why not go after the bullies, instead of two innocent people?!
Anyone could claim they hear voices.
I'm glad the jury didn't fall for it.
The voices are telling me to touch myself. 😆
That would require courage. It’s well established that victims go on to attack less powerful such as more vulnerable, or younger children..or animals
ngl "FA cup" did make me giggle
They can sit in prison and hear voices, ok by me
Strange that the prosecution argued he didn't have psychosis, he was convicted on the basis of not having psychosis, yet rather than immediately going to prison, he was sent to a secure psychiatric institution. It's almost as though he has a psychiatric problem...
The case where the 5 kids killed a boy in the Laundry is just heinous and those 5 kids should be in prison for life without the possibility of parole because they are just too dangerous to live in society. I have handled those kinda cases before and have witnessed children do crimes like that and it's very rarely do they change to become a better human being in society therefore those 5 kids should be put being bars for the rest of their entire life without possibility of parole at all.
Having watched and listened to the above video documentary, yes, I believe unfortunately, terribly that some are born evil. I wish that were not the case but it may be possible
That happens in England I think that is there law
@@patttyannhudson thats the problem.. the victims lost their child and these children are later in freed and given a chance and also everything being paid for. so imagine what closure did the victim have knowing later on their childrens killer are gonna be free and be in society.. and even the studies are paid for by the government. just imagine this. it really has happen. all these clearly sending a wrong message
I've noticed that in the past in Canada also they only get 25 years in America you ain't getting out
@@patttyannhudson people become eligible for parole after 25 years- doesn’t mean they get out. One example is Paul Bernardo
I will never understand how not one student alerted the school or the teacher about cornices intensions
Even when he showed the knives to the other students in the day even the student he winked at as he was about to do it !! No warning at all just tragic. RIP
They were all in on it and completely got away with it.
Right?! Better to say anything even if it turns out to be nothing! Ugh. This is insane…😡
They are children
@@ryleebrettsmommy2704Girl, don’t act like being a teenager gives anyone an excuse to not know right from wrong to such an extend. Crazy. Imagine he would have gotten a member of your family and everyone would have known before but not said anything. Would you still say that?
My sophomore and junior years in highschool, I had the same literature teacher. I didn't really care for her my sophomore year but really disliked her my junior year. She went out of her way to embarrass me in front of the class and often spent class time to berate me. I finally got tired of it and I just gave it right back to her. She gave us an assignment to take lyrics from a song and discuss the poetic characteristics. I did Metallica's To Live is to Die. After I was done, she told me I had brought filth into the classroom and that I had no respect for authority. She threw me out of class and sent me to the office. The vice principal actually laughed when I explained the situation and he sent me back to class. When I went back to class, it was over. I walked in and she told me that I wasn't very smart and I didn't need to think about college. I put my books in my backpack and told her that she was a failure as an educator. After that she hated my guts for the rest of the year. She would throw insults at me from time to time during class. I would just smile at her, it would send her into fits. I spent a lot of time in the office. I still did my assignments but she would grade them harshly. I made straight B's in her class. She actually called my mom near the end of the year to complain about me. My mom hung up on her.
This is amazing, your resilience and maturity to deal with such a poor excuse of a teacher is admirable. I was also bullied by a few teachers in high school, but didn't have the courage to give it back to them so I spent a lot of high school struggling with my mental health as a result. Bad teachers ruin children's lives, I have no idea why people like that even want to teach or are able to hold their teaching positions. I lived vicariously through your story, knowing that there's people out there who fought back brings a smile to my face.
Good for you & you still did great in school. Props to your mom for hanging up on your teacher too!!! 😊❤🙏✌
Did everyone clap
@@charlibonesstrange Yes.
See? You restrain from killing her. It is possible.
I have type 1 diabetes. Diagnosed at age 10. Never if I did something like Will did, would I even think to use my diabetes as some sort of excuse for my actions. I also suffered my parents divorce at age 15. There's just no excuse for taking another's life.
The only thing I can think of that could be diabetes related is if he suffered brain damage during is coma before he was diagnosed. Especially since he changed so significantly after that event!
What is that kid name in south park that got diabetes
I’ve never heard of diabetes being used as an excuse for murder. Honestly.
I LOVE-LOVE-LOVE these really long true crime compilations! Keep 'em coming!
agreed
Hello Debra how are you doing hope you’re having a great time with your family may God bless you and your family
Absolutely!
do you like them as in the murders or as in the story
@@MegaBossmare a
I can’t believe how light these sentences are. And I thought the American judicial system was crazy…
he literally talked about it for months and showed a kid the knife he had in his bag and no one said anything, AND THEN the "review" said there was "no obvious signs" just because there was no "hx of offending". You know who didnt have any hx of offending? chris watts and he killed his pregnant wife and two small daughters. Absolute BS. Everyone who he talked to about killing her and didnt say anything, contributed to her death.
I'm also terrified by the murders friends due to not saying a word to warn the teacher.
We have become immune to violence I bet some one used their phone to record rather than dial for police
Sad, isn't it. More evidence of good parenting imo.
@@idontextback ⁶
Yes, I am puzzled by this too. One reason could be that the Brits have been conditioned not to speak out. I see this in Australia.
@@danutahanyga4834 I don't think it has to do with geography. In the USA we have children or students who bomb schools we payed attention to Columbine 1999 and the Parkland shooting 2022. I think it's a generation problem. I can only speak from experience I am a Generation X baby and yes I went to school with bad children and yes some students may have talked backed to the teacher but never threatened a teacher. Teacher told you to get out of class and report to the principal office. You got the pink slip detention and your parents had to come to school to talk to the principal. When I was growing up the worst thing you is to have your parent miss work. Spanking your children is considered abuse.Ask any Depression Era, Baby Boomer Generation X and some Generation Z children did we blow up schools no we weren't saints we had chores we didn't have phone's to record misdeeds. Somehow we failed these students by constantly rewarding them with video games clothing and phones
I've worked in mental wards & facilities since 1993.
I often wonder, if more people understood that as a prisoner, you are afforded more rights & recourse than a patient in a mental ward, would they still attempt to use that defense?
If you are in a mental ward with very violent patients because you yourself are deemed one, how do they think the staff is going to be able to protect them 24/7?
We have always had nursing shortages, especially in these dangerous facilities. If the only eyes on you 24/7 are CCTV, then whatever another patient(s) do to you can only be dealt with after the fact, not before.
How many of them would change their mind & never commit the heinous crimes in the 1st place if they knew that.
@celticmama98 - You make a very good point. I think there are some crap defence lawyers out there who advise their clearly guilty clients to play the mental health card to get a "softer" option than a proper jail. I like how juries these days rarely buy into the "voices in my head told me to do it" rubbish.
What I have learned that a lot of youngsters are narcissistic. Don’t underestimate what a human being can do to another. Read the sign and take them serious.
Teenagers all are. They lack it. It’s science. It’s sad because they will mature and realize what they have done, but there is no excuse.
Please do not let this deranged individual out at the age of 35, please do not grant him parole 🙏🏻🙏🏻
The kid that killed his teacher just wanted to kill someone, he had no usual behavioural issues, no home issues, she did nothing to provoke him, he just wanted to kill and didn't like her so he picked her. There are no mitigating factors, he should have gotten a bit longer.
How can YOU know? Do you really believe Someone will admit abuse or neglect??? 🤦🏼♀️
@barry he did come from home problems and emotional issues;he told people that he was going to do this. There was factors in this story but it still doesn't change what he did.
Grown "professional" - "there was nothing about him that would say Will could do something like this"
15 year old high school kid before knowing anything at all- "It was Will wasn't it?!"
These are always so well done. Very good production value. Happy long time subscriber
My bestfriend has been a knife fanatic since we were in grade school and was even suspended/expelled for bringing knives to school. He owns a multi million dollar knife company today.
And I bet he hadn’t killed or even cut anyone right? UK’s obsessed with knives as though they were only created as weapons is a sign of stupidity.
That's awesome!
Wow, It's so sad for all who died. The last story with the 5 kids was really crazy.But, what they did to Sean & how they acted in courtroom & after what they did they showed no remorse .They deserve what they got.
👀 got a while to that story.. I'm watching
My mind is changing about people as young as 13 hanging out with 19 year olds. People say that doesn’t happen, well it’s shown to happen here 🤷♀️
Being led by someone with the IQ showing a mentality of a 6-7 year old, leads me to not be surprised by their courtroom behavior. They should stay put where they are, hopeless.
How could the other students stay quiet ??? Wts wrong with society???🤯 he doesn’t need Dr he needs a cage!!!
Maybe they were scared it could happen to them.
They were used to him making statements about death and dying, and they are kids! they do not expect things like that to happen like an adult maybe would.
they give him a Dr because they believe he can be redeemed and become a better person. Does that sound familiar. and society believes that sticking someone who has committed a lot of killings to rot in a cell for life is more humane than just killing them. people would be less likely to commit heinous crimes if instead of life its death. think about three meals? a day dealing with other crazies. even in prison no one wants to mess with some insane psychopath that would kill you as soon as he looks at you.
Because they are literal children...
Some people joke about inappropriate stuff and you get used to it and think their lying or you fear them simple as that
Will's eyes look so devoid of anything. He looks so detached from the world. How sad that these kids ruined their lives and the lives of so many others so early on. Tragic.
He's a classic malignant narcissist. What is the most shocking, the emotionless reaction of other students. Kids are so cold nowadays.
And so sad that they didn’t get the help .
It does take a village to raise a child
What does turning 18 have to do with psychopathy?
“Oh you said you’re 17 and exhibiting the Macdonald triad? Oh well no worries, we can’t diagnose you.”
“Wait you said 19? I’m psychopath for sure.”
It's very sad to see these youngsters destroy their own lives and the lives of others through their actions and choices they made themselves. God have mercy on us all
Its sad that people are allowed to multiply when incompetent, incapable, and/or choose to have children for the wrong reasons. Plain, simple.
If they were interviewed prior to pregnancy and throughout the life of the family - maybe. If they just come up pregnant - not allowed. If on welfare - not allowed. Etc.
If not mentallt, emotionally, financially able to parent a child - no child. I said PARENT a child, not "raise" one.
Animals in the wild teach tbeir young how to live independently. Few are born knowing what to do automatically - except of course lizards and snakes which is where tbe term "cold blooded" comes from.
Parents who DON'T do their job, do HARD TIME, TOO, unless and ONLY unless, its PROVEN by medical, educational, records, that theyd tried EVERYTHING, including seeking help from the "give birth permission squad".
Trust me most if not all of the bs in the world would END.
Very true.
A sad little memory from elementary school when one of my friends really needed to go to the bathroom but froze instead of asking.
Thankfully the teacher was kind to some of the kids, so she took care of this little girl very kindly. I remember my relief for her case, but I also realized that there are certain differences between kids, and from then on I was really, really scared of the same thing happening to me because I knew I that teacher didn't have patience with me. I would not be treated with such kindness.
My only guess is that I was a pale, kind of ugly, nervous little kid and such kids certainly aren't very popular.
Well, life kept going and it got better, until unfortunately
the love of my life to my horrible sorrow died 3 weeks ago.
I am so grateful to get the chance to love him, and to receive his amazing love.
I hope all of you find your love, but that it last longer than it did for me.
its not sad at all to see these killers ruin their lives only the innocent victims
…except for them
I and everyone I know have watched all that kind of material when we were teens. We used to watch some heinous stuff. This is natural for young boys to do. These boys obviously had physical defects in their brains where they didn't have the hormones or chemicals that produced the proper emotions that most people have. I f a Dr. had told these kids why they behaved this way maybe the kids would not have done these heinous things.
This guy was just getting started. Be happy you got him when you did
In the US, it would have been considered the teacher's fault that she was stabbed and the family of the boy would have sued the school and the victim's family for their child being accosted by the police! The teacher's family would have been told that she 'singled him out' for unfair discipline and did not consider his emotional and psychological trauma when she disciplined him for not doing his school work and for going on the field trip. It would have been her responsibility for harassing him into murdering her,
Yes crazy as it sounds you are correct though that is some s*** here
Most Americans have twisted mind.
Being in a group of friends is not in itself so wrong, but it is what activities they do is what's important.
And it would help the community if the adults made sure the teenagers had activities that they could participate in. Sports arts/theater various things that teens are interested in that are positive. If we dont guide them they will come up with something because teens have a lot of energy and they hate being bored.
I disagree
Absolutely agree with this. It some how depends on peer pressure when kids are in their adolescent stage. When kids are in their adolescence they need proper guidance and strict vigilance. We never know what may trigger their young untamed minds.
Some of them may develop intense love for their beautiful teacher. On the other hand some of them may develop intense hate against their teachers. Which ultimately leads to such situations.
All the classmates known what was about to happen but not one opened their mouths, not even when he was walking up on her with the knife. Was it shock or was they looking forward to see if he was going to follow through with it🤷🏽♀️
No one called her name to at less let her get a fighting chance
Why do u think the kids knew or were even paying attention
Nevermind the next comment as i listened further i heard that he had told other students. Crazy
It's called the bystander effect. Nobody does anything because they expect somebody else will do something. There was a woman who was stabbed and she was in the street screaming for help and none of her neighbors called the police because they thought that another neighbor must have already done it. She died because nobody did a damn thing . Moral of the story here is If you see something don't assume that someone else is going to take care of it, do something about it yourself.
no, the video said he hid the knife in his SLEEVE.
Pretty much lots of people were to blame, her life could of and should of been prevented.
He should not get away!The fact he said he was going to kill her and afterwards behaving like he had done nothing.Come on!
He didn't get away. He was sentenced to a minimum of 20 years of prison.
@@danutahanyga4834not enough. Should be 55 years in Jail . No rehabilitation on this kinda sick mind.
Who ever did the lighting for the psychologist must have been on their first day.
😆
Or had a personal issue against her because that was just cruel. 😂😬
He most definitely knew right from wrong. Once you’re past the age of development into puberty, you truly know right from wrong, and there’s no excuse for his actions absolutely none. My condolences go out to the teachers, family, friends,fellow students and faculty that truly cared and loved their beloved, family, member and teacher💟🛐🙏🏾
Seriously?
The prefrontal cortex performs reasoning, planning, judgment, and impulse control, necessities for being an adult. Without the fully development prefrontal cortex, a teen might make poor decisions and lack the inability to discern whether a situation is safe. . Teens tend to experiment with risky behavior and don’t fully recognize the consequences of their choices.
A Teen’s Brain Isn’t Fully Developed Until Age 25-26.
Another example is the way that the amygdala functions differently in those that have mental illness.
However, traumatic experiences can have a significant impact on a teen’s brain development.
@@diaryofarealmom3264
You're correct that the brain is finally developed in our 20s.
However, children between the ages of 7 to 15 know right from wrong.
I'm Canadian now but was born in France where the age of 7 is called
"The age of reason".
Children enter a period where they develop an understanding of right from wrong, ar least at their level.
7 year olds know it is wrong to hurt others, to steal, to mock, etc.
You say that teens don't fully grasp the consequences of their actions... As a teen I knew very well that smoking or walking on a dark road were "bad" for me, that stealing would send me to jail, that lying was wrong and certainly that killing someone was beyond "bad"!!!
Exactly
Mental Illness
I knew right from wrong before puberty.
Just because the brain keeps growing till mid 20's doesn't mean we are incapable of making good decisions.
Not too long ago people were getting married in their teens and raising families. Children worked on the farms helping out.
Now we coddle teens like they're toddlers. We,as a society, have stunned their emotional maturity.
How could the kids just sit there not get up and run to go get help? That is just sad
They were just kids, I'm sure they were scared and it probably happened so fast. So sad.
This is what's known as "the last generation". It's biblical. God said this would happen. And here we are. Just saying.
The teachers desk is often near the door. As shocked as you are, most people would subconsciously stay frozen rather than put themselves in the path of a mama with a knife. I don’t know how much reaction time there was.
Madman
It’s called freezing
Too many people think kids don’t need psychiatric help. I’m so mad that most people say “there were no signs.” No, you mean “we ignored the signs. Because we didn’t want to deal with it.”
Smart kids should be watched as well. The pressure to be “perfect” is there and it leads to superiority complex and an inferiority complex. They come to thinking they are smarter than everyone else and think they won’t face any consequences because they think they won’t get caught.
I think Fairweather was so obsessed with serial killers that his subconscious made up the voices to allow him an excuse to fulfill his obsession.
Hard to say. Though I guarentee he'll do it again if given the chance
He was obsessed because he had the same blood lust within
The story of the voices doesn’t really hang together well. Schizophrenics are not organized in this way and their voices rarely council violence toward others, it’s usually voices which tell them that they are worthless, evil etc. They might be violent out of fear but planned homicides? No. Schizophrenia doesn’t come and go either, once the disease manifests it is constant outside of treatment, they don’t present as normal except for these short spells n which he murders. Sociopathy can be quite organized but co existing sociopathy and schizophrenia would be exceedingly unusual. It has happened but not in the scenario that this boy demonstrates.
All those kids who knew, knew that he had become obsessed with killing her but no one said a word. My God in heaven. He should be locked up forever, evil is not a mental disease.
Hi here in the US minors are tried as adults that little s o b will be tried as an adult and locked up for at least 25 years maybe almost 30 but now someone in 2012 someone passed a law that are trying to abolish this law but we are trying that bad seed Connick will have been locked up for a long time you can believe it
It is mental health though.
A1²²2²²²²²²Q²
²22
You are weak. You think world's all sunshine and rainbows?
I don't understand why none of the students who saw the knives and knew what that guy was planning to do did not warn the teacher!!
1:17:18 "A boy had successfully deceived three psychiatrists." 1. He would only have had to read 1-2 personal accounts from actually psychotic people, to concoct his "voices". 2. He was organized in speech and behaviour, with no instances of change to either one; there was nothing different about him until he said he had voices, AFTER he was caught. No... definitely not psychotic, no "voices".
-Deceiving psychiatrists can be shockingly easy, as we are used to rely on the words of the patient. Especially when the psychiatrists are picked by the DEFENSE. The psychiatrist for the prosecution was not "deceived", neither am I.
-Also, most psychiatrists are predisposed (I want to say programmed) to find some illness or disorder. It's like they don't believe in evil.
If all the things being said about this young boy are accurate, then this seems to be a perfect case for nature over nurture. Though rare, some kids are truly just born bad. Pretty scarey. I wonder if he cares about his life being taken away? And why can't a person be diagnosed as a psychopath until they're 18? I would think they could, if the attributes are there.
Oh, you know the truth about the boys life?
No child is born bad - but early abuse and neglect change the brain structure! In a time, where a child can‘t even remember!!! And do you think that someone will really admit what he has done to him??? 🙄
Every seen the twilight zone from the 80s theres an episode about genetic evil in it. It's about people who bury themselves in the mud for 17 years like locusts when they come out they're old and they grow backwards over the course of three days and then have to bury themselves again for 17 years if they do not get a kill in that time they die. So they are genetically evil beings.
Killing or torturing animals is an early sign and as an animal lover , I say that’s pure evil when a child should be protecting a smaller, vulnerable species. Learned at home.
"crazy" shouldn't be an excuse to avoid prison sentences for these types of crimes... Anyone who does this is "crazy" by definition!
The most shocking is, how do all of these crazys find each other?
Hes a psychopath, no remorse, no empathy, nothing behind the eyes.
Feigning madness is a perfectly sane thing to do, so the truly insane thing to do is claim sanity. Someone should write a book a bout that....
I would advise against it. When you are claiming insanity, you're being evaluated every 2 years. And every 2 years you can get another 2 years indefinitely. It's a lot more demanding, because you actually have to comply with all treatment offered while in prison you just have to wait it out.
@@martinepeters9891 interesting information.. do they usually get released earlier??
Not saying this is the case with him exactly but I completely believe that people can hear voices and still carry out a crime In a smart and organized way
When you're in a psychotic state and you kill someone it's quite different than someone who has prepared by taking a knife hiding Etc. A psychotic murder is very disorganized.
What makes me mad is I’m from Compton california, my dad was in and out of prison for gang violence my mother was a dope head and I never once thought about killing someone…. Yes it took a lot but I hung with some hardcore gang members and never once in my mind I said “cause of my environment I want to kill” I forced myself to play sports to get myself out of city
Wya rn
What sport
What team
@@Yeahokwewillc played baseball D1 went to UNR in reno and finished with a bachelors in social work
@Michelle Craigmiles meant dope head lol autocorrect I’ll fix it now
@@michaelvalencia7234 Yet…look at you now. You didn’t live on your knees. Amazing 🙏🏽🌹
@@pommiebears didn’t want my kids to see what I saw when I was younger
You can be sure that whoever or whatever taught him his madness is still teaching it to others, and by his act, and before his act, he was teaching it to others. Did no one ever tell him not to murder, and why not to murder? If someone tells me that they are going to kill someone, or kill themselves, I call in the people who deal with such madness. People who do not understand right from wrong are insane, and after a certain age, its a bit late, and there is then little to no hope of changing one"s mentality, one's concepts of right and wrong.
Yes they need longer sentences for murder.
Why did none of the students tell on Cornick if they knew? Doesn't it make them an accessory to the murder that they said nothing?
Good old British bravery is being handed down to the kids
They didn't take him seriously... and even if they had told on him...they can't do anything but talk to him. They weren't going to lock him up. Nothing was going to stop him.
No one believed him. Dark humor
An accessory would be someone who helped. Told him when her back was turned, if another teacher was coming, got him the knife or whatever. The responsibility to warn her or report it beforehand is a moral one and no criminal charges can be brought for that.
@@genevievegreene1595 Should be.
Why do they keep saying they served a life sentence? The shortest one was 6 years. The family are the only people who have to serve a life sentence.
When I was in school a teacher went out of his way to bully me in subtle horrible ways, it was constant. I begin to plot his death, for months I planned it, then one day I realised I needed to straighten out my thinking and not give him power over my future.
I remember now after reading this how i was bullied so bad by my math teacher 👩🏫 I went home to cold blue feet after a camping ⛺️ trip my dad made her quit her job but it’s not enough
@@leannedominguez9012 I am so sorry you went through that.
BJamo. So sorry you went through that. But glad you had the self control to realize that and move past it. You are stronger than your tormentor . HUGS
Well done! You didn’t allow someone who was abusing you, to have power over your mind and your future!!
Fk that teacher 😠💩
Good show. Love it. But I think it could have been done it half of the time if they do without the repeats.
Someone’s state of mind should have no bearing on whether or not a person goes to prison. The victim is still dead, and they did it. Hey, if they’re insane, tell them you’re sending them on an extended, all expenses paid holiday at an exclusive resort. The courts sometimes seem to lose sight of who the real victim is!
Absolutely. Anyone capable of killing a person obviously has something wrong with them. I don’t care where on the scale their mental illness is. Once they have intentionally killed they have to be put away from the rest of us. Preferably forever.
Those 5 boys that killed Sean are such disgusting cowards.
These kids words need to be taken a lot more serious nowadays. They need to be held accountable if they say anything about killing another individual. There needs to be zero tolerance for any type of language. Ann Maguire’s tragic death was avoidable
I know a lot of people won’t agree with this but, we need to allow spanking again, take away participation trophies and teach boy to be boys and that it’s okay to grow into men.
When you talk to kids, you present and they quickly grow to think they are peers, not children. They develop the same u tame and brutal logic that legitimate serial killers develop, whereby kill is somehow a solution.
WOrds mean nothing without actions. DO you know how many kids say they wish they could stab so and so? Millions. Even I said things like that as a kid because I was being a dumb kid who was angry in the moment. These kids were obviously mentally ill for one reason or another but arresting someone for saying something everyone would be in jail. Everyone on Earth is a liar and everyone on Earth thinks and talks about doing dark things now and again. It's called the human condition. People like you that think this kind of thing can be stopped by arresting everyone who says something dark and disturbing apparently think it's possible to change the human also known as the mammalian condition. Animals kill each other for variety of reason always have always will. Unless there is an action after the words then the only thing that should be done is trying to talk to the person and figure out why they feel this way. If they say something to a psychiatrist they want to to hurt people on several occasions then maybe they should be removed from society. But not thrown into jail. Usually people like this are in horrible environments or have genetic conditions that they have no control over. Neither you nor anyone else on Earth can stop the killing of humans by another humans unless we someone find a way to radically alter the genes of humanity as a whole. since these actions usually come from the survival instincts of a person then we would all just die if we removed those. We would become apathetic simpletons who didn't care if we lived or died. We would have no ambition to stay alive or do anything to improve our lives. Unfortunately due to the survival instincts humans will always be this way. The only time we should be sticking people in jail is if they have done something NOT SAID SOMETHING to warrant it because they are KNOWN not SUSPECTED danger to themselves or others. Nobody asked to b thrust onto this dangerous planet so we all need to be a little more empathetic towards each other true, but there will always be those who have become physically and/or mentally ill.
People really need change how they profile killers.
Childhood bad or good doesn't decide what a person will do.
How someone appears looks or acts (aka shy or is attractive) doesn't tell you this person is a killer.
It's in the wiring of the brain. The monsters hide in plain sight.
People literally need to do the see something say something. Hear something tell someone. And it needs to investigated. Every time.
Schools need more therapist/guidance.
The brain is the key.
I'm glad those boys are going to prison see how tough they are now what they did to that poor boy it's horrific May Sean rest in peace my prayers go out to his family
I would be scared at that age to do anything in the moment when the teacher was getting stabbed. I’d think that he would do the same thing to the rest of us. However, he told multiple people who did nothing about it. Those people should hold themselves responsible as well.
Also, I understand no one that age can be diagnosed a psychopath yet. But the brain develops until around 25 in males. If it starts this early, it typically delves deeper. I don’t think any of these people should be free. But it’s Britain, so they likely will be. Which is scary.
No point in watching anything from Brit-en. Too frustrating because no one EVER gets punished appropriately.
seriously insightful
Yay! Stuff to listen to while I embalm 🤘
👍😁
The amount of questions I have for you as a medical nerd is unreal. If it isn't too much of a reach, please could you DM me? I would love to, in a totally non ironic way, pick your brain.
Ann Maguire's death was absolutely preventable. Up to the moment the stabbing beganit could have been prevented in so many ways.
I imagine if that happen in my country, the other children word at least scream or warn the teacher. This is really strange.
WHY WAS THAT BOY BEING INTERVIEWED NOT CHARGED AS AN ACCESSORY BEFORE THE FACT, AS WELL AS ALLTHE OTHER PUPILS WHO KNEW WHAT HE WAS PLANNING. IT'S INCONCEIVABLE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALSO HELD RESPONSIBLE.
It's very possible the diabetic coma caused brain trauma. History of head injuries seem to be common of a lot of serial killers.
I understand why kids didn't take his threats seriously at first, UK doesn't have much hx of students breaking out in bloodlust, but I'm horrified none of the students tried to stop him once he began to carry it out, he doesn't seem like he was large, he could've been overpowered.
Also no one talks about basic meal patterned brain development which can be serious and deadly. Oftentimes one day it's there and another day it's not and sometimes it takes up to age 25 for the male brain to mature
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. He didn’t like the teacher ! He KILLED the teacher . He was calculating and hateful. It’s called EVIL. Brain injury? 😂😂😂 Unbelievable
@@jmdenison if he murdered YOU or someone you loved, you would definitely not be excusing his vile behavior
@@gabrielamartiniuc6322 while I get your point I do not agree with it. raise your vibrations. take the high road
@@gabrielamartiniuc6322 hang on there chemosabe. murder and suicide is there to teach us lessons, so what have you learned?
The children who saw the messages and stood by and watched him do it are complacent. Shameful.
How horrible it must be for Shaun's parents, families and girlfriend to listen to how people make up excuses for the killers actions, it's disgusting. I'm shaking my head watching this because everyone has a sense of right and wrong regardless of how you grew up or where you grew up. RIP Shaun from us in Australia
I found it outrageous that those voices never say, go to an elderly person and mow their yard. Or help someone out in some other way. They always want you to kill, pretty much like bs to me.
I worked with schizophrenic people in my career as an RN.
Believe me their voices were hideous. I don't know about this guy, but my patients were in fact told to kill themselves, that they were ugly, stupid, horrible etc 24/7, sometimes they said they were screamed at.
None were told to hurt others thankfully, but they did harmed themselves.
I have severe chronic pain 24/7 and had to retire but I would rather have this pain than even one day with schizophrenia.
The voices are almost always negative. I work in forensic psychiatry and have a patient who actually cut half his nose off. But you don't notice those people who have very negative voices telling them they're worthless and deserve to die. Not so long ago a patient cut his own throat and it was a blood bath.
Maybe they do…and you’ve got yourself a decent kid. My son would help the oldies at Christmas. He would go shopping for them, hang decorations for them, and visit them. He’d then go take their decorations down lol. He’s in the military now, because he feels that need to help.
Those 5 criminals didn’t get enough punishment. Life sentence should be life sentence.
This goes to show that there are so many feelings in someones childhood, if it's mostly there own or a parent's, that are'nt felt. That lack of empathy I think some how learnt from observing someone who's not caring about something that matters.
Absolutely. I feel that lack of empathy in myself and I know where it came from.
We just had a school shooting that many children were Swiss Cheese.Try and use your explanation to the parent whose children that were mortally deformed and the police allowed this shooting. Listen I grew up with a neglected childhood bullied at school and my sister was raped by our step-dad and she became pregnant. She kept my niece. She was only 13 years old but she looked 9. We somehow became productive members of society. So who cares about your childhood when you harm others. Prison are full of people who were abused just like honest people who have been abused. It's your choice of how you want to live your life.
@@nicolebailey4426
But, when a small child grows up after living like that, there are ALWAYS effects, even if you deny it doesn't.
Some turn to drugs, or alcohol, and some can't manage to stay in relationships, They might live a life of loneliness, and not be able to keep a job, maybe become homeless.
And, I'll bet, your sister isn't REALLY okay, deep down in her soul.
It ALWAYS stays with you, because you can't erase your childhood, or the emotions, that go along with abuse
I'm a woman and have very low self-esteem. I always believed nobody liked me, I'm basically a recluse, and live out in the country, by myself on a farm. I have the ringer turned off on my phone, and rarely answer it. My one sister is the only one I'll let into my house.
I was horrifically physically abused in school by a bully twice my size, for over 5 years, she was never punished, and when she would beat me so bad, my eyes were swollen shut, and my face was swollen and discolored from bruising. (I also, had a "stepfather", and a brother-in-law, if you know what I mean).
My mom would send me to my aunt's house in another state until I healed. Once, my bully beat me so bad, My eyes were hemorrhaging, and I couldn't even hold my head up, my neck muscles were so weak, I literally had to hold my head up with my hands while walking home. There were tons of kids cheering her on, every time. I was terrified to leave the house because she was always "hunting me". I BEGGED not to go to school.
My real father abandoned ONLY me...he had a great relationship with my siblings, hence the feeling nobody likes me.
I never committed a crime, did drugs or drank, graduated from college with a degree in science, and got a great job that I would do for free, but, it pays well. I'm an attractive woman, so I've been told, nice and compassionate...so basically, I turned out just fine...but, I DIDN'T...did I?
So, I have a DOG, And I love her so much, more than people, and, I would die for her...but, she's the only one, I let into my life.
@@danni1993 I'm sorry you went through your turmoil I suffered from some abuse in my childhood as well. Despite what happened to you, You chose to do good. Alot of prisoners come from bad homes. However, just like I believe just because you had a rotten childhood I don't deserve to be your victim. Either get help or kill yourself. One song I love this song by Mary J Blige is No more Drama. Only God knows how the story begins for me but I chose to Win.
@@nicolebailey4426 Wow, you have been through a lot along with your sister. Your comments effected me deeply and I wish you and your sister ALL the best!! You made a great statement. Thank you
They all do it because they enjoy it. They love the power, control, the stealing of life, revenge, winning, the fear caused…it’s not a mystery why they do it.
We blame everything except the kids. It's voices in the head, or poverty, or problematic family life, or peer pressure, violent games, pronography etc...
How about the kids are just differently wired? They have the propensity to become criminals.
Someone in the room could've at least warned the teacher about the killer walking towards her with a knife. Those kids should be ashamed of themselves.
I mean to be fair they could of had their heads down doing their school work and not paid attention to him walking in. But ya, you'd think atleast 1 of them would of seen him coming. Probably in shock though.
Narrator: "no red flags"
Red Flags: 🧠👁👄👁 🚩
how is possible that no other student alert the teacher, and how no one helped her in the classroom when he was going to stab her showing a knife that was big as half of him.
Knowing that all these people knew of his threats & not one person stepped forward is horrific. What a sad disconnect 😢
And who are you, Bruce Willis?
@@HLl564 Well said. Totally clueless.
You do realize these were all kids right?
I would think it only 2nd nature to cry out some kind of warning. Everyone would respond differently, some frozen, some crying out some kind of sound. Even small children. It's not a heroic action so it begs the question, why there was no warning to alert this poor woman. Don't think it's suggested any of these teens rush him to disarm. It feels like kids have become numb. It was called bystander apathy where each figured someone else would report his threats. This too says something sad about society in general
I hate that when people divorce, they act like they're the only victim, with sorrow and pain, etc. But never thought their children went through twice the heartbreak of the parent. And specially hate the " i love you son, i will always, you're father and i tried but we can't work out it seems.". Why does it take you like more than 5 years to know you're not meant to be together.... Just say you're bored of your married life and want to runaway. I'm so sad and angry with these irresponsible parents.
Yup I agree. The worst is when divorced parents only ever have one child and then put pressure on a young child to CHOOSE who they want to be with on holidays then throw tantrums and guilt trips when they don't get it their way.
having divorced parents is much better than having parents that hate each other. Also having divorced parents doesn’t make you wanna kill ur teachers
I don't think divorce is that black and white. What if your spouse was having an affair? And wouldn't end it? What if your spouse started doing drugs or drinking excessively? What if your spouse treated their children terribly? Or became abusive?? What if divorce was to give their children a better future in a healthier environment than the one they were in??
My opinion is your comment is pretty ridiculous.
@@ashleyrose4115 yup
@@ashleyrose4115 that a$$hole spouse is also the parent of the child, so its still irresponsible parent. The one who is not at fault is not to blame there, but the other parent.
The more students tell authorities the better even if they were scared they can tell police they fear Will will hunt them down if he knew they reported..what's worse standing by watching a murder or doing your best as a decent human trying to protect another from loosing their life?
I wouldn't sit and watch my teacher be murdered.
Those other students /people on social media, were pre warned he was going to kill..and showed the knives...they should of told police asap
How can they say there was no sign of how dangerous he was when he expressed himself so clearly?
The voices in my head defense comes up so often. I wonder why people think that will work. Maybe it's part of psychopathy, thinking you can make people believe anything.
On the subject of rehabilitation or young criminals changing over time, check out the interviews of the mansion family members.
So... All those kids watched and did nothing to help her.. Many knowing his intentions!!!!??? WTF
I agree...6/7 yr olds know right from wrong!
Yes but kids are taught to obey the adults and to sit in their seats when they are in a classroom
@@jmdenison Unfortunately the adult was in need of help. How can they obey and respect an adult their teacher. 7 times stabbing and nobody got help or jump this kid. A gun is one thing but you can disarm a person with a knife
@@nicolebailey4426 because they are kids, not adults. and stabbing makes no noise and takes just 2 or 3 seconds no time to jump up and do anything. the kids were concentrating on their studies and had their heads down and minds on their work. stabbing is silent, and she probably didn't even cry out because even she didn't know what was going on. you can easily stab someone with a knife 7 times quickly and no one will know. try it on your whole chicken next time at dinner prep while your husband is reading a book in the kitchen nearby and see if he notices anything. Use a medium 7" blade boning knife. sharpen it first and make sure it passes the cucumber or tomato test. (slight pressure to produce shaved whole razor thin slices)
Do the crime pay for the crime life in prison no parole. My heart weeps for the families for the loss of their loved ones ♥️ RIP Beautiful Victims 🦋💐🌈💜💙
All these murderers deserve the death penalty, at minimum life in prison
I had a teacher I hated with a passion. She is to this day still 1 of the most evil people I've ever met. I found a way to get rid of her without having to commit a crime though.
...and? Do tell.
Graduated???
How?
How could JF’s parents not know he wasn’t correct/normal ?
Denial unfortunately
I have a sister-in-law, her youngest son and his wife who are teachers, and I can’t begin to imagine the grief it would cause our families if this were to happen to any of them.
Not one student did any thing. These are the children of our future. How scary
38:50 ~ why is it surprising that he neglected to show remorse, when given the chance, afterwards.
Wouldn’t the state of him having remorse preclude his ability to commit the crime in the first place?
The TV psychiatrist says you cant be psychotic while committing a murder and then lucid enough afterwards to cover your tracks... is this true? Very curious.
I think they're getting into the legal definition for insanity. If there is planning and if there is cover up afterward it's unlikely that one would be declared insane.
It’s true because if the person doesn’t seem to know there actions are wrong then they won’t see a need to cover their tracks.
@@UnknownCharacterof2024 I knew someone who had what he called psychotic breaks when things got too much, where hed throw and break things, even things he valued, and then regret it afterwards when he had come out of it. I believe this to be a genuine thing..
This is just very sad to watch. His friends knew of his intention but did nothing. And then the narrative seems he's being glamorised.
Why for the life of me if other people knew why someone didn't warn her, It sounded like a spoiled rotten kid that couldn't get what he wanted. No rules for him but know there is.
Mental illness or insanity pleas should not be a determining factor on trial.
I do not understand why no other student told the teacher or made an effort to stop him.
Most people who get outraged with being disciplined really are out raged at themselves but wont front up to any responsibility for their own mistakes.
I guess this is edited for tv with commercials and recaps, but basically 40 percent of it is repeating sound bytes already stated.
There is a multitude of teachers being assaulted and verbally abused by either students and/or parents on a daily basis and this is not reported in the news until someone actually dies. Teaching is no longer for the faint hearted, trust me.
My heart goes out to any teacher who has to put up with nonsense You can't learn anything without a teacher. School used to be home away from home. Also teacher's have their own children and they miss out on their learning watching your badass children.
I totally agree!
Yes I think he should spend the minimum 27 yrs in prison and more!
I disagree. Many children commit horrible crimes when they are very young and especially boys during the ages of 15 to 25 and apparently scientists have discovered it's just part of normal male brain development. Many of them go on to be wonderful kind caring people that commit no more crimes. It's just children can be very dangerous between the ages of 15 and 25. It's just brain wiring and brain development. Unfortunately it's normal in human beings
I wonder why none of the students came forward to tackle him before he had the chance to step or at least after the first of realizing that they could help
Because he farted teeheehee 🍑💨
If other students knew he had his knife on him and he talked about what he was going to do why did not any of them go to the school officials or even the teacher herself it could’ve been Prevented
Because no one believed him. Kids aren't like adults. They believe all the other kids are listening to adults and it was to what other kids say is nonsense
Thats what i want to know. Why didnt just one of them tell of his plans. Had they this would of been prevented
Weird to not really believe something is gonna happen but also be afraid of being the snitch or afraid of turning his ire on them--the brain works to explain things away and make abnormal things normal to survive.
@@jmdenison idk if it's just because I'm American and American school kids have unfortunately learned to never take that stuff lightly, but I'm 16 and I feel like myself AND many, not all, but many, of my peers would tell someone. It baffles me he told a whole class and then some and no one took it seriously but I guess that kind of stuff also just doesn't really happen in Britain like it happens here so I guess maybe they weren't expecting it🤷♀️
@@jessbach4795 I don't think anyone was expecting it but I do not expect children and I do not want other children to confront a dangerous psychotic teen boy with a knife who has already stabbed a teacher 100 times. the police would agree and so would the parents. they are not skilled or trained to take any action against a crazed killer.
And no one bothered to stop him ? Hit him with a chair, warn her, yell for help... Wth
Adults think that way children do not
I believe it depends on the individual child. How many cases have we heard where children sacrificed themselves to save others? Especially during school shootings.I don't think you can hold every child underneath the same umbrella based on a belief that a child will not act like an adult in an emergency situation. Some children have and do act heroically in certain circumstances.
If you can trust a teenager to drive and work they know better.