right? it's a shame they gave him so many later that would basically be dad joke level puns / implications. a bit ironic though really, they veer him into being a straight up demon from hell then get him to say stuff that comes off more lame or funny than badass or scary like this one was.
See, the big problem with this series is that we started with the concept of the Cenobites as creatures based on pleasure, pain and the blurring of the lines between the two and they end up just demons with theme costumes. To use DnD terminology, we're starting with scary-as-hell True Neutral creatures, all the worse due to their lack of genuine malice, and ending up with off the rack Neutral Evil types, just in it for the evlulz.
I've noticed that too... The cenobites were a (hell of a) lot more interesting in the first movie, before everything started going.. well.. to hell. Then it's just demons and evil and... evil demons. :/
Decker Shado The first Ceno got killed by the Doc in the second movie...he turned back to human Actually the cmCeno are actually stuck between life and Death and "bound" to their Lies in the before life. Like Deepthroat for instace she had the Pin in her nose either to represent the nose job or snorting coke. The bracket I guess on her neck, because she broke it. So I my guess she tried to commit suicide so he made a cenobite for it. Plus she started to Decompose in the second movie.From the first. as a matter of fact all 3 were. They were really shitty gross in the second movie! I think the 4 was good because it continued the last 3!
Cenobites are supposedly not supposed to be evil, just extremely sexual who turn your hidden desires against you. Anyone with no kinks or deviantcies are supposedly safe from their powers.
The first two movies are the only ones where pin head and the cenobites were respectful to the source material. they were turned into generic horror film monsters in the later films
Saw this movie in the theatre tripping balls on acid when I was 17. . . so awesome! Afterwards everyone's eyes were dilated and had huge black pupils and I couldn't stop seeing everyone as having Pinhead eyes. Good times, good times.
Admittedly, I've always had a real soft spot for Bloodlines. Angelique as a Cenobite was gorgeous, and really goes back to the aesthetic that the original four had, and as far as I'm concerned this movie had some of the best damned Pinhead monologues out there. The makeup was on point as well, though the Twins were a little uninspired, they still looked great, and since I can't stress this enough, Angelique was stunning. There was so much potential that was wasted in this film due to studio interference, it seems that Weinstein was violating franchises as often as young starlets. Doesn't compare with the first two, but I thought it was a real improvement over Hell on Earth.
I know I'm 9 years late, but i thought I'd share this fun fact. According to lore, the chatterer dog was actually originally a human man that pinhead tortured and morphed into his "pet"
I saw this in theaters and I wasn't disappointed. I came for Doug Bradley and I love all his lines in the film. His makeup and effects were really good and he had perfected Pinhead at that time. His delivery was perfect and he 100% made the film. I was 14 at the time but was a vet to the Hellraiser series already, while 1 and 2 are better films, 3 & 4 are just a Doug Bradley showcase. Ones that are a guilty pleasure of mine. It could have been better no question but I'll take it over the rest that followed. Doug Bradley = Pinhead. Just as Robert England = Freddy. 2 leading men that won't be replaced.
Yeah all the direct to video hellraisers afterward just feel like really long tv episodes. They show pinhead for like 10 minutes in each one which just feels cheap and unrewarding.
2 and 3 left on cliffhangers unfortunately kind of needing to continue in a sequel, but at least this killed off Pinhead for good. The DVD sequels technically happen before this one. I don't even bother with them as continuity wise everything is explained in the first four.
The dog cenobite isn't actually a dog, I was once human. They don't take animals, considered to innocent. Think of it as if the cenobites captured a Furry.
@@pedrogonzalez5741 cenobites aren't demons tho. "angels to some, devils to others" they are a completely different thing unrelated to hell and heaven.
@@AutumnWind92tyler i'm curious do they ever actually mention that in the movies? i cant remember and vjotkr sadly they basically retconned or half retconned that later making them demons from hell or something like that while at the same time randomly calling back to them being the simple pursuers/purveyors' of pleasure or "angels to some, devils to others" they were .. really sucks since the original premise is really good and then changing it just makes some parts make no sense in the very movies that decided to do it. if they ever do remake the hellraiser series while i'd prefer the original way they had the cenos i'd just like them to pick one backstory and stick with it. buttttttt considering the way the sequels went i dont see it being too likely that something turns out well lol
My 3rd favorite Hellraiser sequel. Had some real potential after all we are already talking about a mysterious mechanism and a description of "Hell" as a dimension.
Believe it or not this is one of the better Hellraiser sequels. I know that's not saying much for the series, but I actually enjoyed this one more than a lot of others, like Deadites. The sets are terrible for the most part, but who cares right? If you are deep enough into this series that you are already watching this movie, then that tells me you are already a Hellraiser fan. That being said, overall this was an enjoyable movie for me and would recommend it to any Hellraiser fan. While this guy gave this a 2/5 stars, I would give it a 3.5/5 stars or 7/10 rating. The plot was cool, I enjoyed the time travel aspect where half the movie took place at the Marquis DeSade's home in 1500's Paris. When you look at all of terrible sequels have been put out, this movie sits near the top of the garbage dump making it a worthwhile few hours of entertainment than any Hellraiser fan should enjoy. If we used the IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes ranking system then this film may have come in around 5.5/10. Luckily we don't need to use that scale. Since we are horror fans already! Fuck Golfing.just saying that sport sucks.
Fun Fact: Bruce Ramsay and Christine Harnos (Rimmer) got married 4 years after making the movie and have been together ever since. So I guess Bloodline wasn't totally useless. lol
The whole point of the cube in the first and second movie is that desire summons them, so you can't solve the cube unless you want to... even if you do it by proxy... but I guess now Pinhead is a serial killer even a robot with no desires can solve it.
I always thought that was the point: the box has so much power and wants to be solved, its power/evil seeped into the building and the architect who created it. The box is desire, desire inspires creativity (good and bad), and creativity can lead to one's own downfall as hubris etc begins to taint us. That said, I'm pretty drunk .
I have this movie somewhere but didn't remember much. I have to say Angelique obviously being played by the same actress because it is the same character who is simply long lived would have worked better if they would have cast a different actor to the role of each descendant. Unless of course we are meant to think it is always a reincarnation.
I went and saw this one at the theater as a youngster. Loved it! Still do. I was mad about it being in space at first, but most of it wasn't in space, and the plot and ending made it acceptable in the end.
From what I’ve seen of the first two movies. The Cine bites aren’t really bad guys just jailers trying to do their job. Especially in the first one. And if you don’t open the puzzle they won’t show up those making them less villains or scarier than Jason or Freddy.
most frustrating part of hellraiser is how well they made the cenobites and how mysterious yet neutral they felt and it was all about wanting to summon them rather then doing it just because.
Having seen it in the theater opening night in my city there was a scene cut and not added to any DVD where they explain how the box(es) work by bending light to open the portals and close them. Dark light for the Cenobites and umm... light light(?) to end them.
Doesn't this movie contradict the second one where it showed them having dozens if not hundreds of the puzzle boxes. To the point where it's implied that the cenobites made them.
The outer space wraparound in "Hellraiser: Bloodline" has got to be one of the most unnecessary framing devices I've ever seen. Those segments did not need to be included at all and only serve to make you feel like you're watching an entirely different movie.
Technically, he, (Pinhead), meant it as a: "gotta catch 'em all" and not as a: "don't wanna hurt/blow/kill stuff"... In short, "desire brought us to become cenobites, then it, (desire/curiosity), got us some more toy(s) to torture and/or kill, so let's not get hasty, aw'ight?" The cenobites, in the movie(s), are waaay more "Freddy Kruger-ish", as in: "laughing skull", not: "evil/sadistic influence"... The movie(s) cenobites are nowhere as refined, (evil, but still...), as in the books. At first, they're twisted, yet pragmatic, but not full-fledged: "gonna get ya!" Luckily, in the first 2 Hellraiser(s), they did, (mostly) use fair-play. Like in the books, the one first rule to get "damned" is: "consent by ownership" and yeah, while being "tortured forever" is a nasty fate, you're safe UNTIL you stupidly try using the puzzle box with DESIRE for PAIN in your SOUL, 'cause then, you WILL open it). What actually both summoned the cenobites and doomed them in the first place was the(ir) will to "solve" a craving for pain, (with deviant sex), since harmless pleasure wasn't "fun enough", sooo... Basically, the statement: "it is not hands that..." was just a way to say: "Don't harm the girl! She's doing this for "?" and we wanna know who "?" is, since "?" got us a new plaything... Let's try to get "?", the REAL culprit(s) by A) Luring them,( literally), in HELL, B) going al "slasher villain" to get "ze everyone" and/or finally, let us C) if having a quick "look-see" can help us summon HELL ITSELF ON EARTH!!! Ps: The books are another thing altogether, but in the movie(s), it's: "Let's rampage around the place but we'll save the one that solved the Lament Configuration for last, (or just plain kill and/or transform: it/him/her/them instead, 'cause why torture what we can kill? Yeah, it's not like we "cenobites" are "demons of pain" whom enjoy torment through desire(s) and exist solely to experience/inflict pleasure through infinite suffering of the flesh... Deeerp!
I think taking out the clown cenobites was a huge mistake seeing as thanks to the world of cut footage from movies somehow ending up on the internet not only were they one of the creepiest things I have ever seen in this series they also made such a fantasic contrast to the more modern cenobites that it actually has an interesting effect on how we percieve the evolution of the cenobites.
It may not fit into the series arc too well, but i used to enjoy this as a kid back in the 90's,when I'd catch it on the movie channel late at night. Was definitely one of the more entertaining instalments. Also, spot Adam* Scott as Jacques.
Good flick. Gave a good back story, was well acted, & just good bloody fun. (Better than the campy, cheese powered part III anyhow). Yes, parts 1, & 2 were for all intents & purposes, "better," but I gotta give props to Bloodlines. Sidenote: I know jumping atound the place can be disorienting to a storyline, but hey, it's served Tarentino pretty damn well, sooo...
Wouldn't it have been nice if they brought in h.r Geiger to design a rivaling group of rivaling cenobites, establishing different "cabals" of cenobites trying to gain the favor of the lord of hell? Nah better make a cenobite dog...
Thank you decker! because of your clown cenobite comment I started looking for it and found the restored work print. OMG! that work print is so much better! Thank you thank you thank you!
Sooo...This is where I _started_ with Hellraiser. Maybe not the bottom of the barrel, but certainly the chunky layer floating atop the slurry at the bottom of the barrel.
15:17 The Dog was probably at the wrong place at the wrong time, just like The Twin Cops, Doc, The DJ, and The Bartender, none of them touched the box either, but they all became Cenobites, so I'm assuming The Dog was killed and then transformed just like the rest of them
Oy.. It showed "sent to subscribers" on my side almost instantly this time. In contrast, the Hellraiser III Review is still "sending to subscriber feeds."
Apparently there was more to the behind the scenes, like the director refusing to show the studio footage of what he filmed already, and shit like that, so Bob Weinstein said after he was done filming after 36 weeks, or something like that, he was gone, regardless of how much he liked the movie so far
If I ever meet Adam Scott I'm gonna say "Hey you're that guy from that movie.... Hellraiser 4!" Just to see if he's embarrassed. Or even remembers it...
I've always looked at it this way bloodline was pinheads final days. All the movies after that are just people throughout time that he's encountered. That's how I justify it anyways LOL
I forgot Kym Myers from Elm Street 2 was in this. The cenobites in Bloodline sucked even more donkey balls than the cenobites in the third movie. I hope one day they do another gothic not a blockbuster type Hellraiser movie. Another cool video Decker looking forward to watching your other videos.
Great review, I really disliked how stupid they made Pinhead look at the end to be so easily tricked like some typical slasher villian. I look forward to your opinion on Inferno because personally, i think its the best sequel of all the movies since Hellbound of course.
That was the best? :| To be fair, that's the latest I've watched, but.. so far, my biggest thought is "I absolutely hate the main character." ...Though to be fair, I think I'm supposed to dislike him.
Decker Shado Tried to discover your real name after you reviewed 'Adrenalin: Fear the Rush' pointing out the irony of dropping the last letter in a word (cos Decker Shado's FAR too cool-sounding a name to be such a lucky circumstance) but I am pleased to say that there is nothing on Wikipedia (bear with me) about yourself, unlike the supremely self-promoting money-hungry Nostalgia Critic. I do generally enjoy the guy's reviews, but you seem to be a more humble soul who prefers to do what you do simply because you love doing it. Many kudos points to you, hairy gentleman. Plus, your love - nay, obsession - with the Alien saga is fantastic. I'm the same: I love all the xenomorphic media, and share similar disappointments regarding the...less than stellar post-Aliens stuff. But, eh...yeah. Keep up the good work. And never sleep without a shotgun: Creepy's only a moment away...
Decker Shado I'd imagine that you're definitely meant to dislike Thorne and I think the actor does a really good job with the character. The reason why I liked Inferno so much is I found the psychological nature of the story to be really interesting and quite gripping at times. It's not a perfect movie but if you go into watching it with low expectations and by looking at it as more of a standalone film rather than a sequel (most of them feel this way anyway) then I think its a pleasant surprise. In comparison to the original two movies, Inferno is obviously very far away from what they were but with the whole storyline on being stuck in your own personal hell with Pinhead as the tormentor, in my opinion it's quite accurate as to what a Hellraiser movie should be. Also, Pinhead looks seriously badass in Inferno; especially during the scene when its snowing inside. Remember this is a straight to DVD film and although it had a larger budget than most, the effects etc are still quite impressive.
Raptures Lost But Inferno didn't feel like a Hellraiser movie. It felt like a generic psychological horror thriller with "Hellraiser" slapped on the title for marketing purposes, and Pinhead and the box shoehorned in at the last minute.
Even with you explaining the story the whole time I was still like seriously wtf is actually happening, the whole film made zero sense and was so inconsistent and mashed together it seemed like 3 different jigsaw puzzles being mixed together and me being expected to solve a puzzle with all the wrong pieces 😂
Just because the cenobites are demons, doesn't mean all demons are cenobites. Who ever said the dog was a cenobite? I always saw it as a hellhound. Exposed flesh is a common characteristics in cenobites, yes, but they are not bound to that design.
Now that Harvey Weinstein is fired from the company now we can get a director's cut of this show how awesome it is with the scenes & work print added 2gether making every scene making sense. With Special Features.
" DO I LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO CARES WHAT GOD THINKS! "
One of the best Pinhead lines ever!
right? it's a shame they gave him so many later that would basically be dad joke level puns / implications. a bit ironic though really, they veer him into being a straight up demon from hell then get him to say stuff that comes off more lame or funny than badass or scary like this one was.
I always liked his "Demons to some, Angels to others", line.
@@ieatpeopleand what the iconic line from Hellworld "How's that for a wake-up call?"
See, the big problem with this series is that we started with the concept of the Cenobites as creatures based on pleasure, pain and the blurring of the lines between the two and they end up just demons with theme costumes. To use DnD terminology, we're starting with scary-as-hell True Neutral creatures, all the worse due to their lack of genuine malice, and ending up with off the rack Neutral Evil types, just in it for the evlulz.
I've noticed that too... The cenobites were a (hell of a) lot more interesting in the first movie, before everything started going.. well.. to hell. Then it's just demons and evil and... evil demons. :/
Decker Shado And demonic evil! Oddly enough, given it's a series with this name the Hell aspect of things really ruins the creativity.
Decker Shado The first Ceno got killed by the Doc in the second movie...he turned back to human Actually the cmCeno are actually stuck between life and Death and "bound" to their Lies in the before life. Like Deepthroat for instace she had the Pin in her nose either to represent the nose job or snorting coke. The bracket I guess on her neck, because she broke it. So I my guess she tried to commit suicide so he made a cenobite for it. Plus she started to Decompose in the second movie.From the first. as a matter of fact all 3 were. They were really shitty gross in the second movie! I think the 4 was good because it continued the last 3!
Cenobites are supposedly not supposed to be evil, just extremely sexual who turn your hidden desires against you. Anyone with no kinks or deviantcies are supposedly safe from their powers.
@@mrfivegold Exactly my point. Later film just used them as generic demons.
I like how pinheads looks around and is like WTF just happened
The first two movies are the only ones where pin head and the cenobites were respectful to the source material. they were turned into generic horror film monsters in the later films
Whomever named Rimmer was either a huge fan of Red Dwarf, or ass play.
Let's just go with him being a fan of BBC comedies, for our own sake.
Nineball WoT e
Or a fan of ... unique fetishes
Ahh red dwarf, back when the BBC actually made good comedy.
Nineball WoT Knowing this series, most likely the latter.
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The “Amen” at the end of this movie is one of my favorite cinema moments.
Saw this movie in the theatre tripping balls on acid when I was 17. . . so awesome! Afterwards everyone's eyes were dilated and had huge black pupils and I couldn't stop seeing everyone as having Pinhead eyes. Good times, good times.
Damn, Im 17 right now and I watched it the first time like a month ago, I was also tripping! I liked it alot.
"I've invented Sudoku, bitch!"
Probably one of Decker's greatest lines ever.
Best part is this quote from a different Hellraiser review
Admittedly, I've always had a real soft spot for Bloodlines. Angelique as a Cenobite was gorgeous, and really goes back to the aesthetic that the original four had, and as far as I'm concerned this movie had some of the best damned Pinhead monologues out there. The makeup was on point as well, though the Twins were a little uninspired, they still looked great, and since I can't stress this enough, Angelique was stunning. There was so much potential that was wasted in this film due to studio interference, it seems that Weinstein was violating franchises as often as young starlets. Doesn't compare with the first two, but I thought it was a real improvement over Hell on Earth.
A character named Rimmer but no Red Dwarf sequel reference...
Bitch I thought that just now
I know I'm 9 years late, but i thought I'd share this fun fact. According to lore, the chatterer dog was actually originally a human man that pinhead tortured and morphed into his "pet"
I saw this in theaters and I wasn't disappointed. I came for Doug Bradley and I love all his lines in the film. His makeup and effects were really good and he had perfected Pinhead at that time. His delivery was perfect and he 100% made the film. I was 14 at the time but was a vet to the Hellraiser series already, while 1 and 2 are better films, 3 & 4 are just a Doug Bradley showcase. Ones that are a guilty pleasure of mine. It could have been better no question but I'll take it over the rest that followed. Doug Bradley = Pinhead. Just as Robert England = Freddy. 2 leading men that won't be replaced.
Same. I must've been like 11. Loved it!
The ending was great, perfect finish if you want the series to end there.
The franchise should've ended right here.
Yeah all the direct to video hellraisers afterward just feel like really long tv episodes. They show pinhead for like 10 minutes in each one which just feels cheap and unrewarding.
***** Should've ended after the 2nd one as far as I'm concerned.
2 and 3 left on cliffhangers unfortunately kind of needing to continue in a sequel, but at least this killed off Pinhead for good.
The DVD sequels technically happen before this one. I don't even bother with them as continuity wise everything is explained in the first four.
even the second one is iffy, too over the top
I think it should have ended at 2
don't you think that Angelique probably gave Jaques some kind of immortality spell? that's probably how he'd been alive for 200 years
The dog cenobite isn't actually a dog, I was once human. They don't take animals, considered to innocent.
Think of it as if the cenobites captured a Furry.
Isnt the devils dog??
@Eamonn Wright oh ok
@@pedrogonzalez5741 cenobites aren't demons tho. "angels to some, devils to others" they are a completely different thing unrelated to hell and heaven.
@@AutumnWind92tyler i'm curious do they ever actually mention that in the movies? i cant remember and vjotkr sadly they basically retconned or half retconned that later making them demons from hell or something like that while at the same time randomly calling back to them being the simple pursuers/purveyors' of pleasure or "angels to some, devils to others" they were .. really sucks since the original premise is really good and then changing it just makes some parts make no sense in the very movies that decided to do it. if they ever do remake the hellraiser series while i'd prefer the original way they had the cenos i'd just like them to pick one backstory and stick with it. buttttttt considering the way the sequels went i dont see it being too likely that something turns out well lol
@@wugglesx somehow I completely ignored the sequels. Fair point my dude.
Unfortunately Jason was in the other Space Station.
But that movie was decent this one on the other hand deserves to go to hell (pun intended)
Rabid Dingo there were 3 space stations
Station 1 jason
Station 2 leprechaun
Station 3 pinhead
Clever joke
troublesome 96 don't forget killer clowns
And a on coming ship is carrying a xenomorph
My 3rd favorite Hellraiser sequel. Had some real potential after all we are already talking about a mysterious mechanism and a description of "Hell" as a dimension.
Fun Fact: Kim Myers is now dating another guy with horrible nightmares in a different movie franchise.
Is it weird that I find the the dog Cenobite more interesting than some of the Cenobites in the last movie?
Jurassic Reptile nope.
Jurassic Reptile chatterrer beast
Believe it or not this is one of the better Hellraiser sequels. I know that's not saying much for the series, but I actually enjoyed this one more than a lot of others, like Deadites. The sets are terrible for the most part, but who cares right? If you are deep enough into this series that you are already watching this movie, then that tells me you are already a Hellraiser fan. That being said, overall this was an enjoyable movie for me and would recommend it to any Hellraiser fan.
While this guy gave this a 2/5 stars, I would give it a 3.5/5 stars or 7/10 rating. The plot was cool, I enjoyed the time travel aspect where half the movie took place at the Marquis DeSade's home in 1500's Paris. When you look at all of terrible sequels have been put out, this movie sits near the top of the garbage dump making it a worthwhile few hours of entertainment than any Hellraiser fan should enjoy. If we used the IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes ranking system then this film may have come in around 5.5/10. Luckily we don't need to use that scale. Since we are horror fans already! Fuck Golfing.just saying that sport sucks.
well after this was either re-edited scripts for 4-8 and 9-10 were cop outs
I agree totally. Always liked this one, but the series dropped off a cliff after this.
Fun Fact: Bruce Ramsay and Christine Harnos (Rimmer) got married 4 years after making the movie and have been together ever since. So I guess Bloodline wasn't totally useless. lol
Wow that's so cool...they make the perfect couple.
Good for them. No sarcasm.
Oh and that's not a dog cenobite. Its another chatterer cenobite. A human converted into an animalistic dog looking cenobite. Fyi.✌
Well, apparently that's what they summoned Angelique for - so that she would use her magic to keep them young forever.
This one was more passable than III
I enjoyed the film. It was a good, satisfying, creative way to convincingly kill off Pinhead.
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@@vezer_yt8474 Couldn't have said it better myself.
6 more sequels to follow 🤨
The whole point of the cube in the first and second movie is that desire summons them, so you can't solve the cube unless you want to... even if you do it by proxy... but I guess now Pinhead is a serial killer even a robot with no desires can solve it.
"Rimmer" was the hologram character from the Brit tv serials "red dwarf".
probably the best hellraiser after the original is indeed Bloodlines.
Great review as always, Decker!
"I've invented Sudoku, bitch!"
That line left me in stitches! XD
How to make a prequel and sequel fit in the same movie as the current model, and still f-ck it up!
I wonder how the hellraiser guy would react if he woke up and someone had hammered all the spikes in is head. "JUST A PRANK BRO!"
The presence of the box in the city and in the foundation could have possibly also influenced the architect along with his dreams.
I always thought that was the point: the box has so much power and wants to be solved, its power/evil seeped into the building and the architect who created it. The box is desire, desire inspires creativity (good and bad), and creativity can lead to one's own downfall as hubris etc begins to taint us. That said, I'm pretty drunk .
I have this movie somewhere but didn't remember much. I have to say Angelique obviously being played by the same actress because it is the same character who is simply long lived would have worked better if they would have cast a different actor to the role of each descendant. Unless of course we are meant to think it is always a reincarnation.
I went and saw this one at the theater as a youngster. Loved it! Still do. I was mad about it being in space at first, but most of it wasn't in space, and the plot and ending made it acceptable in the end.
From what I’ve seen of the first two movies. The Cine bites aren’t really bad guys just jailers trying to do their job. Especially in the first one. And if you don’t open the puzzle they won’t show up those making them less villains or scarier than Jason or Freddy.
most frustrating part of hellraiser is how well they made the cenobites and how mysterious yet neutral they felt and it was all about wanting to summon them rather then doing it just because.
"a dark ritual of dark magical darkness"
Having seen it in the theater opening night in my city there was a scene cut and not added to any DVD where they explain how the box(es) work by bending light to open the portals and close them. Dark light for the Cenobites and umm... light light(?) to end them.
I liked the ambition and how they managed to package it in less than 90 minutes. I like this more than the other sequels.
The guy get himself a rimmer? NICE 😎
Doesn't this movie contradict the second one where it showed them having dozens if not hundreds of the puzzle boxes. To the point where it's implied that the cenobites made them.
The outer space wraparound in "Hellraiser: Bloodline" has got to be one of the most unnecessary framing devices I've ever seen. Those segments did not need to be included at all and only serve to make you feel like you're watching an entirely different movie.
Definitely think it would have been a lot more coherent and contextually appropriate if they had waited until the end to do all the space shit.
So am I the only one who wondered whatever happened to "It is not hands that call us...." upon seeing the nonsense with the robot?
venuspluto67 would make sense that anything can potentially open it, as long as the intent from someone present is there.
Technically, he, (Pinhead), meant it as a: "gotta catch 'em all" and not as a: "don't wanna hurt/blow/kill stuff"... In short, "desire brought us to become cenobites, then it, (desire/curiosity), got us some more toy(s) to torture and/or kill, so let's not get hasty, aw'ight?"
The cenobites, in the movie(s), are waaay more "Freddy Kruger-ish", as in: "laughing skull", not: "evil/sadistic influence"... The movie(s) cenobites are nowhere as refined, (evil, but still...), as in the books. At first, they're twisted, yet pragmatic, but not full-fledged: "gonna get ya!" Luckily, in the first 2 Hellraiser(s), they did, (mostly) use fair-play. Like in the books, the one first rule to get "damned" is: "consent by ownership" and yeah, while being "tortured forever" is a nasty fate, you're safe UNTIL you stupidly try using the puzzle box with DESIRE for PAIN in your SOUL, 'cause then, you WILL open it). What actually both summoned the cenobites and doomed them in the first place was the(ir) will to "solve" a craving for pain, (with deviant sex), since harmless pleasure wasn't "fun enough", sooo... Basically, the statement: "it is not hands that..." was just a way to say: "Don't harm the girl! She's doing this for "?" and we wanna know who "?" is, since "?" got us a new plaything... Let's try to get "?", the REAL culprit(s) by A) Luring them,( literally), in HELL, B) going al "slasher villain" to get "ze everyone" and/or finally, let us C) if having a quick "look-see" can help us summon HELL ITSELF ON EARTH!!!
Ps: The books are another thing altogether, but in the movie(s), it's: "Let's rampage around the place but we'll save the one that solved the Lament Configuration for last, (or just plain kill and/or transform: it/him/her/them instead, 'cause why torture what we can kill? Yeah, it's not like we "cenobites" are "demons of pain" whom enjoy torment through desire(s) and exist solely to experience/inflict pleasure through infinite suffering of the flesh... Deeerp!
I think taking out the clown cenobites was a huge mistake seeing as thanks to the world of cut footage from movies somehow ending up on the internet not only were they one of the creepiest things I have ever seen in this series they also made such a fantasic contrast to the more modern cenobites that it actually has an interesting effect on how we percieve the evolution of the cenobites.
The dog wasnt a cenobite but a cenobite pet. Brought to you by a wiki I read years ago
I liked 1,2, and 4 the rest was Hell to watch
"Rimmer?"
A "Red Dwarf" reference?
“Hollywood hates the number 4”
Mista names these sequels
It may not fit into the series arc too well, but i used to enjoy this as a kid back in the 90's,when I'd catch it on the movie channel late at night. Was definitely one of the more entertaining instalments.
Also, spot Adam* Scott as Jacques.
Good flick. Gave a good back story, was well acted, & just good bloody fun. (Better than the campy, cheese powered part III anyhow).
Yes, parts 1, & 2 were for all intents & purposes, "better," but I gotta give props to Bloodlines.
Sidenote: I know jumping atound the place can be disorienting to a storyline, but hey, it's served Tarentino pretty damn well, sooo...
really, a character named rimmer in a sci-fi movie and no red dwarf reference???
Wouldn't it have been nice if they brought in h.r Geiger to design a rivaling group of rivaling cenobites, establishing different "cabals" of cenobites trying to gain the favor of the lord of hell? Nah better make a cenobite dog...
Thank you decker! because of your clown cenobite comment I started looking for it and found the restored work print.
OMG! that work print is so much better! Thank you thank you thank you!
a joke i often do in this movie is that the reason why pinhead turned the twins into cenobites is because they interrupted his sexy time with angelic
13:38 Air Conditionioning lol
12:00-12:05 Fucking killed me!!!
Thanks for the review Decker =P
It just seemed... fitting. :)
+Decker Shado hedonistic dog, wait can dogs even be hedonists they're dogs. (yes I know it ment to be a human twisted into a dog shape)
The actress playing Angelique also played the peasant girl who bangs Christian Slater in the Name of the Rose.
So many good qotes i cant name them all XD also Decker i always get exited to see a new video of yours!
hi. I watched them in a random order but really enjoyed these summer of hellraiser vids a lot
You would think that the twin Sinabites heads would be more fused together judging by the Scene where we actually see their heads get twisted together
14:45 I like to think that pinhead just casually speed walked there
You could be a announcer for a wrestle match.
The Summer Of Hellraiser intros are too good haha
Sooo...This is where I _started_ with Hellraiser. Maybe not the bottom of the barrel, but certainly the chunky layer floating atop the slurry at the bottom of the barrel.
15:17 The Dog was probably at the wrong place at the wrong time, just like The Twin Cops, Doc, The DJ, and The Bartender, none of them touched the box either, but they all became Cenobites, so I'm assuming The Dog was killed and then transformed just like the rest of them
The Hellraiser sequels were a mess.
Keep up the good work Decker! Btw youtube took 3 days to show this upload in my feed :/
Oy.. It showed "sent to subscribers" on my side almost instantly this time. In contrast, the Hellraiser III Review is still "sending to subscriber feeds."
Explain the Lament Configuration blowing up after solving. It's supposed to remain intact! It's like blowing up Jason with C-4
Thank you for your fantastic review.
You summed it up quite well.
Apparently there was more to the behind the scenes, like the director refusing to show the studio footage of what he filmed already, and shit like that, so Bob Weinstein said after he was done filming after 36 weeks, or something like that, he was gone, regardless of how much he liked the movie so far
I've always wondered about the Cenobite vs. tortured in Hell thing.
I wonder if the studio people think we won't notice the changes, don't care or don't remember/read the plot to the prior movies themselves.
If I ever meet Adam Scott I'm gonna say "Hey you're that guy from that movie.... Hellraiser 4!" Just to see if he's embarrassed. Or even remembers it...
I've always looked at it this way bloodline was pinheads final days. All the movies after that are just people throughout time that he's encountered. That's how I justify it anyways LOL
There can't be 🐕 Cenobites because we all know ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN.
I forgot Kym Myers from Elm Street 2 was in this. The cenobites in Bloodline sucked even more donkey balls than the cenobites in the third movie. I hope one day they do another gothic not a blockbuster type Hellraiser movie. Another cool video Decker looking forward to watching your other videos.
Is that kid from the Stephen King's Shining Miniseries?! (Watch the Nostalgia Critic to see why I'm mad)
I was about to say the same thing. I think that is him. I mean this did come out around the same time as the Shining miniseries.
I couldn't stand that kid in the miniseries.
Yup, also played Uh-Huh in the little rascals
Love that Ashley Marie Johnson plays John’s wife. You know Ellie I’m last of us!!
Great review, I really disliked how stupid they made Pinhead look at the end to be so easily tricked like some typical slasher villian. I look forward to your opinion on Inferno because personally, i think its the best sequel of all the movies since Hellbound of course.
That was the best? :| To be fair, that's the latest I've watched, but.. so far, my biggest thought is "I absolutely hate the main character."
...Though to be fair, I think I'm supposed to dislike him.
Decker Shado
Tried to discover your real name after you reviewed 'Adrenalin: Fear the Rush' pointing out the irony of dropping the last letter in a word (cos Decker Shado's FAR too cool-sounding a name to be such a lucky circumstance) but I am pleased to say that there is nothing on Wikipedia (bear with me) about yourself, unlike the supremely self-promoting money-hungry Nostalgia Critic. I do generally enjoy the guy's reviews, but you seem to be a more humble soul who prefers to do what you do simply because you love doing it. Many kudos points to you, hairy gentleman. Plus, your love - nay, obsession - with the Alien saga is fantastic. I'm the same: I love all the xenomorphic media, and share similar disappointments regarding the...less than stellar post-Aliens stuff. But, eh...yeah. Keep up the good work. And never sleep without a shotgun: Creepy's only a moment away...
Decker Shado I'd imagine that you're definitely meant to dislike Thorne and I think the actor does a really good job with the character. The reason why I liked Inferno so much is I found the psychological nature of the story to be really interesting and quite gripping at times. It's not a perfect movie but if you go into watching it with low expectations and by looking at it as more of a standalone film rather than a sequel (most of them feel this way anyway) then I think its a pleasant surprise. In comparison to the original two movies, Inferno is obviously very far away from what they were but with the whole storyline on being stuck in your own personal hell with Pinhead as the tormentor, in my opinion it's quite accurate as to what a Hellraiser movie should be. Also, Pinhead looks seriously badass in Inferno; especially during the scene when its snowing inside. Remember this is a straight to DVD film and although it had a larger budget than most, the effects etc are still quite impressive.
Raptures Lost But Inferno didn't feel like a Hellraiser movie. It felt like a generic psychological horror thriller with "Hellraiser" slapped on the title for marketing purposes, and Pinhead and the box shoehorned in at the last minute.
I don't disagree that's what it was but personally I rather liked it, each to their own.
It needs to be a tv series it'd help it a lot
Pinhead is my favorite cenobite because i like his voice and his actor did a good job on his character
The director who reshot the film for Dimension was Joe Chappelle, the same guy who directed _Halloween:_ _The_ _Curse_ _of_ _Michael_ _Myers_.
George Bean which are both shit
I'm a fan of the first film I feel it's good
Even with you explaining the story the whole time I was still like seriously wtf is actually happening, the whole film made zero sense and was so inconsistent and mashed together it seemed like 3 different jigsaw puzzles being mixed together and me being expected to solve a puzzle with all the wrong pieces 😂
I'm hoping "rimmer" is a nod to Red Dwarf lol
Bloodlines was legitimately the last Hellraiser movie I've watched.
0:08 I revisit this for that adorkable intro (intentional) goof. xDDDDD
I also kinda wished they kept the progression the same, starting with the creation of the box, present day, and then the space station at the end
That dog centobite was my favorite.
So does the Lament Configuration know when its being solved by machine so it just explodes it.
Just because the cenobites are demons, doesn't mean all demons are cenobites. Who ever said the dog was a cenobite? I always saw it as a hellhound. Exposed flesh is a common characteristics in cenobites, yes, but they are not bound to that design.
love the variety of movies you review, from all countries, from all years, some serious, some funny, horror, monsters, all are welcome on your page!
If I had to guess I would say angelic probably just solved the puzzle box herself and let pin head in
Holy Shit! The Film Producers are Cinobites. They thinks cutting up and editing the films is for our pleasure but it's actually our pain!!!
Now that Harvey Weinstein is fired from the company now we can get a director's cut of this show how awesome it is with the scenes & work print added 2gether making every scene making sense. With Special Features.
18:00 why would they equip future soldiers with a damn Calico M950
I enjoyed this movie a little more than 3. But after 4... its awful
I'm shocked they made nine Hellraiser films... lol
10 now
@@randalgraves6979 Oh god! Please No!!
Dude I love your videos your so funny...