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Next time you are frightened by a spider on the wall, just be glad you haven't found yourself on Klandathu. In this review of Starship Troopers, we take a look at the extreme political angles, deep subtext and meaning.. and promptly pay no mind to any of it cause it's just a goddamn sci-fi action flick.
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The bugs launched a rock from the other side of the galaxy towards Earth as an act of war! I'm sure the bugs were initially targeting the dinosaurs since the rock was probably launched 30+ million years ago.
Don't we see the asteroid going through a FTL gate?
For all intents and purposes, even being "warped" from Klendathu space to Earth space would probably have taken a long time (but we don't see how long the ship was out - without FTL, it can take literally years to transmit information).
Both the book and the flick however never were "science fiction", at least the book can be considered "humanities fiction" in that it explores Earth society after it is forced into a deadly conflict.
It’s implied that the event is just a false flag attack.
The asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs killed millions of animals and caused a nuclear winter. All the one in the movie did was blow up Buenos Aires
@Mary-something: No, I am reporting you for libel.
For the rest reading her comment: She makes a #NonSequitur in implying Heinlein's book was "fascist".
Heinlein's book is dystopian, from the POV of characters *in* an authoritarian society. Heinlein was undoubtedly anti-communist, yet the teachers of Rico *use communist terminology* - a dead ringer the positive connotation the POV character feels is, like in Orwell's "1984" and other dystopies, not a representation of the opinion of the author.
Heinlein's book shows the devastating, normalised effects of autoritarism because of the war much more than Verhoeven's flick does. His underlying message - pacifism and demilitarisation leading to totalitarianism - may be controversial, but is the exact opposite of "fascist".
People with a modicum of knowledge in history know that this unwillingness to act accordingly after the so-called "Third Empire" attacked Poland led to the escalation of World War 2. Had the UK and France reacted upon the guarantees they gave Poland and defeated the "Third Empire" right from the start, the war would have been contained. As is, in the end, pacifist France gave the "Third Empire" the time to wrap up Poland, improve their armed forces, and then conquer France and send the UK across the channel in Dunkerque.
Calling something "fascist" that warns of the exact thing that allowed fascist/national socialist Axis Powers to succed in controlling almost all of continental Europe is mere trolling. Nothing else.
Ralf Hagen fascists co-opted tons of communist terminology to confuse the masses while using their funding from major capitalists to crush the socialists. That’s a characteristic especially notable in fascists dude.
You missed a golden opportunity to say “she wants the Casper Van D”.
Underrated comment
5:25
This is also canon. In the novel Federal service for citizenship is 100% voluntary and also discouraged by the Terran Federation. Also those fit to join and lacking "real skills" are either placed on dangerous jobs or are during boot camp weeded out by instructors from company size to platoon size in manpower. All to make sure only those few that in mind really put the greater good over selfish ideas such as "personal security" are able to vote.
Yup 100% correct
Indeed, that was the main point of the book. People who are willing to make sacrifices (including possible death,) for the good of the wider population are more likely to vote for policies that benefit the whole as opposed to personal benefit. Verhoven's failure to actually read the book left him blind to the fact that it was pro-military, not pro-war. There's a big difference.
I have always wondered how the CGI for the bugs looks so good to this day.
True they still look amazing.
Simple: matching your lighting of the subject to the surroundings.
There's a reason all the 'bad' shots of the aliens are in weird or dim lighting compared to the other, high contrast scenes.
Isaac they obviously got the bugs out
What CGI? Those are just giant bug actors.
@Ayaan Brantley How is that relevant to this discussion?
7:23 BUT I CAN
1. "YOUR NAME IS KUNTA KINTE"
2. "The tables have turned, white boy"
3. Guess that's why they call it cool whip
4. Black dude was dressed in a white-beater
5. I really stumbled on to some kinky reverse-slavery film didn't I?
The IRONY of Casper's whip scene was not lost on me
mobile infantry but no vehicles to transport them, they have to walk everywhere lol
ziljin yeah, if they said leg infantry it might've been better
Mobile for the ships that get them to another planet. In the book, they drop from orbit in battlesuits (scout, command, marauder) and fight over large areas. But, you know...shitty movie passed on that tidbit, but kept the plagarized name.
No, they didn't; they wore servo power armour suits and shot nuclear rockets from shoulder launchers. #Battletech Elementals, plus nukes minus eugenics come closest to "Mobile Infantry", or #WH40K Space Marines/Space Marine Terminators.
The nomenclature is consistent with NATO nomenclature. There is IRL infantry, mounted infantry (Dragoons, now obsolete), motorised infantry (in APCs/lorries, like M113/BTRs) and mechanised infantry (in IFVs like the M2 Bradley /BMPs).
So it's good sense to call a waldo-armoured SF extrapolation differently; "mobile" 's consistent with this NATO tactical nomenclature.
Cameron' s "Colonial Marines" is organisational, not tactical.
14:54 the body armor is not very effective against weapons fire... :-(
If you watch the roughneck chronicles you'll see they use tons of vehicles and always bright along a marauder or two.
Clancy Brown plays an angry veteran pretty well. First Shawshank Redemption then Starship Troopers. Boy do I love watching him play those types of characters.
He'll always be The Kurgan to me.
Mr Krabs rules :)
Clancy brown is great even in the bad movies he’s in he’s usally the best part like pet sematary 2 bad movie but he’s great in it
whipping scene cracked me up lol !!
"Your name is Kunta Kinte! What's your name?"
"my name is toby " !!
Great review! Starship Troopers is one of my favorite SciFi books, which I re-read every so often. The movies had NOTHING to do with the book, except some characters and the bugs, and I enjoy it for what it is (not criticize what it isn't). I also thought the actors and actresses greatly added to the enjoyment (I ALWAYS love Ironside, and even Busey added to the fun).
As you say, the movie is popcorn entertainment, and well made with from that standpoint.
Insane quality on the CGI. Also, no Starcraft without this movie.
Starcraft predates the movie. While it was released 1 year later it was in development for more than 2 years before starship troopers, and that including the remake after orcs in space flopped at e3 1996.
@@NoESanity The book is way older tho.
Nice Flaming Lips pfp
No StarCraft without Warhammer 40k you mean.
@@talon12020 That too. Zerg are essentially Tyranids
Well, it's more interesting when you consider that it also merged with an idea Paul Verhoeven had about making a movie through the eyes of the Hitler Youth in Nazi Germany. Basically portraying the bad guys as the good guys who don't know they are the bad guys.
***** I agree! People like Paul Verhoeven take Starship Troopers too seriously.
Verhoeven has a love affair with violent and sexualized imagery
Starship Troopers is amazing. The book is better, but I enjoy the movie.
WARNING: bugs were killed in the making of the movie
Shot...blown up...nuked...yeah...I think that pretty much sums it up! I thought it was a kickin' movie. Gotta give 4 1/2 stars out of 5.
Blood, guns, explosions, and violence the perfect ingredients for the perfect movie
@@ronaldshank7589 Nah, you missed the kids stepping on big roaches
@@chrisperrien7055 Oops! You're right. I did forget about that part.
The dialogue was purposely meant to be cheesy because the entire movie is a parody of plenty of cliches found in movies. The entire point of the movie is that you start off by taking it seriously but then start beginning to realize that you were voting for the wrong people the entire time because they are blindly killing the bugs with hatred based off of what the media has told them about them. It's fascism in a different form. Kinda like the way Nazis blindly treating Jews like they weren't people. If you closely pay attention to the movie you'll notice that the Arachnids only attack the people once they've begun firing at them on their home planet. Also the arachnids are never actually shown to want to take over other planets. Even when earth was attacked all you saw were explosions that was it. Almost as if it was all propaganda to encourage everyone to hate the Arachnids and Love hating them because they were celebrated for it. This is what fascism is. Convincing selfish people that they are the most important. The movie was meant to be satire. Look it up. Hope you found this interesting :)
...God you people are the worst.
@AdisTheBeast Everybody knows this. It is blatantly obvious. He may as well be telling people the point of "They Live(1988)" while acting smart.
"OMG GUYS ITS AN ALLEGORY FOR CAPITALISM!!!" < No shit.
Pieces109 damn Mormons
Emotional Idiot I don’t think you know anything about fascism. It is literally the opposite of telling individuals they are the most important. It is about self sacrifice for your people and duty to your nation above personal gain. It is about the wealthy and the not wealthy working together for the good of each other in cooperative interest. Read Giovanni Gentile’s Short works on fascism.
"If you closely pay attention to the movie you'll notice that the Arachnids only attack the people once they've begun firing at them on their home planet."
( 09:10 Bugs shoot at the ships before they even land on the planet.)
Emotional idiot is the preacher and the lions represents the bugs in the following video
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Denise Richards has one of those faces that during youth is just utterly spectacular, both soft and angular, with features that are larger than life. Later on however her type of looks depend entirely on how her collagen stores hold up, bcz she's all features instead of bone structure. That's why Dina looks hotter today than Denise!
I would say this is a terrible loss but her breasts are implants, and she has little talent.
I saw her recently in a horror flick called THE TOYBOX and she a Mischa Barton looked really wasted :-0
Totally should have gone for Diz. Carmen seems attainable, but never will be, regardless of the situation at the end of the film. If they ended up together at the end, I would expect to see a post-credit scene where she shovels the “It’s not you, it’s me” speech, and rides away with some turd. That’s the human experience.
I herd that the uniforms the solider were in battle was later used in Power Rangers Lost Galaxy .
The Toku Hunter Don't remind me of that piece of shit. The name alone is enough to know it is shit (the Mario Bros. Movie was underrated because it was created for people who haven't played a Mario game).
The props from this film popped up all over the place. Which makes it weird that the Morita props never made it to any sequels, leaving future films stuck with crappy looking AK47's wrapped in a oversized shell...
The armour was used by the purple bellies in Firefly.
It's appropriate. They fought bug themed aliens that season.
17:36
Keep in mind, Xander had been stabbed through the right leg, just below his ass cheek.
There was no way he was gonna be running to get away if he had done what Carmen did.
He shoulda used those buns of steel videos more.
Sure see Gary's resemblance in his son.
11:48
Sigh...Decker.....Super Mutant Bombideer Beatle and I probably butchered the spelling but that's not the point.
I didn't notice it until this review and I feel stupid for that, he looks just like him! Look at them teeth!
Is he as crazy as Gary?
@@TwinkHerder Probably
Kinda of important that a man's children look like him, otherwise , ya' know.
17:41- Dude, that brain-bug brain-sucking scene messed my brain up for a while when I first saw it as a kid. Also, just to clarify, Zander was already stabbed through the leg when pinned by the bugs, which is why he gave Carmen the knife.
He knew his limp would make him too slow to escape even if he'd kept the blade to disable the brain-bug and free himself. Plus, he loves Carmen and deduced based on her shoulder-wound that she had better odds of survival than his.
Yes, there's a tiny chance he could've also cut her free and the two could've made up for his limp by her helping him, but their speed would've been slowed regardless. Honestly, I found it the one noble moment in the plot for Zander's character.
The book is considered required reading for the NCO corps. That is, a good NCO often suggests the new NCO being mentored should sit down and read the book. Paying close attention to things within the story such as the service itself. Not how it is structured, but how one is psychologically influenced to make the decisions for joining as seriously as possible. In fact, the first chapter deals with people being actively discouraged. This is to weed out people who just want to use federal service as a free ride. It sifts through and makes people either *want* it or *not want* it. There is no in between. You then are taught the significance of your decision and how your actions influence one another.
The importance here, is the need for committing not only to the self but to the unit as a whole. You are as much a backbone as the others, but your responsibility is to others. Helping and mentoring them, but not letting yourself slack.
The Books other major themes have influenced how the Military conducts business. And honestly, when considering the movie version, I see it as an episodic tale of Rico coming to understand that his service has very real effects. On himeself and on others. It teaches him the importance of what he does, but does not make him the true hero. He is simply the grunt which gives abbreviated leadership, and through those roles, he comes to understand his place within the larger system.
@moon-moth1 Actually, heinlen disagrees with you...
When you read the book, it's clear from the outset that he was not critiquing the military but was instead criticizing what he saw as a weak foreign policy that resulted from elitism from people who never served in the military. He was a starch anti communist and actually believed that libertarian principles were the more beneficial route to take in the United States.
You're thinking of the movie. Which was a critique of militarism.
Writing in his 1980 volume Expanded Universe, Heinlein would say that the publication of a newspaper advertisement placed by the National Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy on April 5, 1958, calling for a unilateral suspension of nuclear weapons testing by the United States sparked his desire to write Starship Troopers. Heinlein and his wife Virginia created the "Patrick Henry League" in an attempt to create support for the US nuclear testing program. Heinlein stated that he used the novel to clarify his military and political views.
In contrast to the others, Heinlein firmly endorsed the anti-communist sentiment of the Cold War era in his writing. Heinlein served in the US Navy for five years after graduating from the United States Naval Academy in 1929. His experience in the military profoundly influenced his fiction.
Wtf!?! This movie is already 20 years old??
EDF + Dead Space would be amazing
Ahhhhh Starship Troopers, the amazing movie that took the normies almost 20 years to pick up on the satire...
Nya Stclair It worked on me.
*AMERICANS not normies
@@SethPlato01 don't cut yourself on that edge.
not sure how old you are but people were talking about this film being satirical in 1997. ebert said: 'The one redeeming merit for director Paul Verhoeven's film is that by remaining faithful to Heinlein's material and period, it adds an element of sly satire.' www.rogerebert.com/reviews/starship-troopers-1997
@@blue-cn8hc Except for the minor detail that the film is in no way faithful to Heinlein's material. The only similarities between the two are the title and some of the character names. Heinlein's widow was so appalled that she demanded - successfully - that his name be removed from the film credits.
Verhoeven is a Dutch socialist, so I see why he hated the book. The book was very good. It seems fascist at first, but as you read through the book, Heinlein was attempting to describe/define a society that was liberally free, had few laws, no racism, was an economic powerhouse, free from corruption, and actually worked. He observed that in all democratic societies, the key has always been who gets to vote; and societies have always restricted the vote. In his fictional Citizens Federation, becoming a citizen was the only way to get a vote, and that was all it gave you: no special privileges. So there are a high percentage of people who were "civilians" (non-voting people). This doesn't prevent one from achieving success, as Rico's parents are civilians but are extremely wealthy. They do in fact look down on the citizens. But that is part of the key to why the society works. Only those who are willing put the needs of others ahead of their own, and work together as a team can gain the right to vote. Demagogues and con-men will get weeded out during the process. One doesn't HAVE to do military service, but it is the common way to gain citizenship. Most people don't make a career out the military; they do their 4 year stint and get out. Like our real life modern society only about 1-3% of the population actively serve.
Also, the federation is an actual federation, with multiple alien spieces being a part of it, it's just that the Skinnies and the Bugs, along with their ideologies, prevent them from wanting to join and puts them in conflict. It's even portrayed as sort of depressing that they have to fight.
"no corruption" ...you could literally buy citizenship^^
Heilein was indeed attempting to describe a "functioning" fascist soiciety...but none of the things you mentioned applied, neither in the book nor in reallity. The society he discribed was fictional, because all societies that tried implementing these fascist policies failed miserably in history from within and outside.
You realize corruption is an indomitable force right no matter how you restrict voting rights and that’s the big problem if people have to be citizens to be in politics then they usually have to serve in the military meaning the military becomes politicized meaning people will scheme and plot their to the top to gain better political standing we have historical president for this because in Rome public office was restricted by your length of military service.
The very idea of authoritarian government saying "agree or be stripped of the right to speak your mind" is basically why "them Frenchies ain't got no kings anymore" and the reason why US aren't going around conquering the whole continent is because capitalism work... Make money to live well and that's pretty much it! Peaceful cooperation and actual DIPLOMACY goes better WITH than WITHOUT the voting rights being available for all, not to mention "the whole freedom of speech" isn't a "bonus"... It's what gave their independence any legitimacy whatsoever to begin with. One side, you get the "Confederates" loosing their "slaving rights", but on the other side of the same coin... Barack Obama was president and Opra is a multi-billionaire business woman... Equality for all isn't an utopian pipe-dream anymore.
Ps: I'm sure the book meant well, but reality is better at making dreams come true.
@@hopperthemarxist8533 Yep and we have several good examples of Socialism working right? Like Venesula, oh no umm ok North Korea..wait..thats no good..ummm Russia? No their bots got Trump elected. Can you point out where Socialism has..you know..worked?
Something that *needs* to be mentioned, and is referenced by Deker, is that in the book they had *power armor* with jetpacks, hence the name Mobile Infantry. The book is famous for being the first ever use power armored suits in sci fi. Iron Man, 40k, Fallout, and Halo, just to name a few, all get their power armor ideas from this book.
Having both legs /torn/ off at the hips is a mortal wound, unless you get immediate medical attention. The femoral artery is like the goddamn new jersey turnpike, raczac (sp?) had about a minute before he was beyond any help, and maybe another minute past that point before he's gone.
it's upsetting how few people understand this movie!
It’s upsetting how little Verhoven understood the book.
Loved this review! Starship Troopers was my favourite movie as a kid, and it still remains today one of my favourite sci-fi films of all time, but I do agree with all the points you raised in this video. :)
I'm also surprised though you didn't make note of what I always saw as a inconsistency error in this movie. Minor, yes, but regardless still a inconsistency error. During the scene you mention at 13:47, if you watch that scene again, that telecommunications guy who had his brains sucked out was still seated in the same chair he was when he made the call. Yet, if you look at the bug hole adjacent to him, it is both very deep and narrow. How in the hell did the Brain Bug fit through there and then wiggle its way up to suck this guys brains out? That part always bothered me, lol.
I liked the movie, But as a bigger fan of the book, I sorely wish it wasn't a starship movie, since anyone who read the book can agree, the marauder suits were awesome.
Also the entire idea about the militarizem is only slightly correct. to be come a citizen you need to join a federal service, which the book states is more than just the mobile infantry and navy. it also states than any job could potentially become a federal service with no small amount with of political pull, as in the galactic freighters. its a good read, and if you go into the book with a clean slate, then you can get quite a bit from the book
in short, get both
+gillecroisd 92 He didn't crap on the movie, he literally said to get both.
Funny that you should focus on the Rico-Carmen relationship. In a vital, deleted scene, you see Carmen embracing and kissing Rico after they celebrate the brainbug capture. It was met with ultimately hostile reactions by test screen audiences. Many of those having watched the original cut, wanted to kill Carmen. I blame Verhoeven for giving in to general emotions and deleting that pivotal scene.
Yeah, too bad Dizzy in the book was a guy, who got injured fighting Skinnies in the first chapter of the book. . . . . . Then died on the way up to the Rodger Young.
And the book is better. Read it. Rico did not promote that quickly in the book. Trust me. It is worth the 10 bucks on Amazon.
Loved it.
Xendrius who didn’t?
Starting my nightly ritual of 2 or 3 decker re-runs before bed, why not start with this classic. For the algorithm!
One of the best sci-fi movies ever made considering that it's got an all-star cast and awesome special effects! Add to the fact that it's one of Paul Verhoeven's most iconic movies makes it an even more iconic and memorable sci-fi movie!
A shame you didn't make the Invader Zim reference. I would have totally gotten it!
but he did though...
Yeah because he was named after Sgt. Zim in that movie. Both Invader Zim and SpongeBob r 2 Nick shows and Clancy Brown (Mr. Krabs) played Sgt. Zim.
Tarantel666 I’m four years late but it’s good to see the two people who commented missed the joke
Oddly enough, the PC game Starship Troopers was a highly entertaining squad based game that somehow managed to (successfully, mind you) blend elements from the movie (Zegema Beach invasion) and book (Power armor). To me, the gameplay still holds up today, and recommend checking it out if you can.
FUCKING YES, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR YOU TO DO A REVIEW OF THIS. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now you should do a Starship Trooper month
I do occassionally try to work in "It's an UGLY planet! A BUG PLANET!" into conversation, context is pretty obvious there. Also, the soundtrack by Basil Paledoris, who also did Robocop for the director (I know it's Paul V but I can't spell his name), is AWESOME. 'Klendathuu drop' is fantastic.
i think this is one of the best movies ever made!
At least it's one of the better Verhoevens. BTW, have you seen "Soldier of Orange?" It was Verhoeven's breakthrough in the Netherlands (Holland).
the majority of the directors early work is all good
And then they reused the armor for the Mobile Infantry for Power Rangers Lost Galaxy.
I love "Star Wars" I love "Blade Runner" I love " Aliens" I love " Predator" I love "The Matrix" etc. But my all time favorite Science Fiction movie, is always gonna be "Starship Troopers", and it's only by nostalgia, i was no more than 6 years old when it was it theahters, and i was blown away! I have loved it and seen it ever since, 30 times at least. Love it tell death!
Been watching your reviews for about two hours since I discovered you. Awesome stuff. You're well spoken and pretty damn funny. Keep up the great vids.
The point of the book was to try and find a system of government that could fight against communism without sacrificing the liberties of the people to something like Facism. The idea was that you had to do some form of service, could be military, could be janitorial work for the gov, for the common good to vote, but that's all it did for you, gave you the right to vote. That's it. Nothing else. Most people in the book actually looked down on people that wanted to become citizens, as it was seen as sort of like being "Holier-than-thou". It's a fantastic concept. Also, the biggest twist of the book, that Rico was a non-white filipino, is completely lost on any movie version, as it can't really portray just how shocking that was to the people of the 50s.
Hay i can explain the electric igniter antennea.
Its ancestors who lacked the spraying fuel, would use the antennea as a defence or cattle prod, kinda like electric eels, if you tried to eat it or something, it would jab you with it and zap you, with stuns you long enough for the bug to counter attack or escape.
But given it limited range, they eventually developed the sprayer as range trumps melee for survivability.
Decker, could you please review John Carpenter's The Thing?
I'd really love to see your opinions on it.
Has Michael Ironside ever starred in a movie or ever played a different type of character?
He was a pretty chill, tubby good guy recently in “Nobody”
There are two categories of people in relation to Starship Troopers: those who loved the movie, and those who've read the book.
What about those of us who love the movie and have read the book?
That psychic powers are real was a pretty broadly accepted SF trope at the time the book was written and up through the 70s, almost as much as "faster than light travel is easy": no real explanation needed. One of the main vectors of the infection was John W. Campbell, editor of "Astounding", who never met a crank theory he didn't like (Dianetics, flying saucers, homemade anti-gravity machines...)
I think what's special about Starship Troopers is that it is a popcorn movie and a really intelligent satire on U.S. imperialism at the same time.
I also find it striking how much this seems to be a satirical comment on the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan post 9/11 while being made 5 years before the fact.
Most of the bugs are an absolutely amazing achievement of computer animation, they feel extremely kinetic and real in the way they can throw their bodies around, ridiculously terrifying... just the way they needed to be.
Really too bad they made these terrible sequels that seem to miss this completely.
omgsolikevalleygirl ^^This and the best part is,most people don't even get that is satire.I actually have the impression not even the reviewer got it.Paul Verhoeven also makes fun of chliche teenie soaps,like ''Beverly Hills 90210'' etc. who were popular at the time(the whole highschool stuff),macho war action movies and militarism in general.
One of the best scenes is,when Jake Busey asks the drill instructor,during knife training:''What's the point in training how to use a knife,when we can nuke a whole planet with the push of a button?'' After that the drill Sgt. throws the knife,impales his hand on the wall and responds:''If you can't use your hand,you can't push any buttons,soldier.'' Perfect description of ''military logic'' AKA ''don't ask any logic questions,do what you're told,even if the order doesn't make any sense.'' The fact,that the reviewer didn't mentionend,shows that he didn't get the movie at all.
@doubleP he called it a simple sci-fi popcorn movie
+omgso. Its a satirical movie about FASCISM. Its not a critic of USA in the sense you think. Half the scenes are ripped right out of ww2 and Nazi propaganda footage.
"while being made 5 years before the fact."
Wow, its like the movie wasnt about USA, but was actually about what they claimed in the making of. Which was fascism.
And USA full fills all of the 14 points of fascism, so it is a borderline fascist country with an illusions of democracy.
Gripen1974 how so?
one of my favorite sci fi movie hands down!
Was Decker a stand up comic in another life? This guy is fucking hilarious.
Wow, didn't know Mr. Krabs was in Starship Troopers until now!
Funny that, my World Literature teacher taught us about how to decode the words that talk about the intentional humor it had.
Yes it was Clancy Brown. He played Zim whose name is given 2 that green alien who's invader but not really one or that smart 2 rule Earth.
The brain bug scene...I saw that when I was like 8..it scared me for years
17:37 I mean, to play Zander's advocate, he wasn't present in the Planet P trap scene where they find Farley's corpse with his "brain sucked out", he just wanted to give his beloved something to defend herself with, assuming the Brain Bug was just going to rough him up for interrogation, and the moment the Brain Bug pulled out the proboscis, he probably realized he was fucked.
Wouldn't just about ANYONE rather be shot by their platoon leader than eaten alive by A GIANT FUCKING WASP??? And the first rule about impaled objects in EMS is NEVER remove an impaled object unless it's impacting the airway. That bug leg was nowhere near Dizzy's airway.
When I think about it the Society depicted in the book is actually far more similar to the US during the 19th century, than to a fascist dictatorship like Italy or Spain. It's a society where everyone has equal rights, except for suffrage.In a way it grants it's population much more freedom, since it has abandoned institutional sexism, racism and slavery. Suffrage is tied to military service which is not mandatory, but voluntary. You can still run for office, have your business, access to public goods if you don't volunteer or fail to qualify. This is very similar to the situation in the US before universal suffrage.
The society of the book is also one that is under the very real threat of annihilation. The militaristic culture is the result of humanities constant war with the bugs, who are a much more formidable foe in the book, than in the movie.
Given the style of warfare the book is truly visionary. Heinlein was enlisted in the Navy and engaged in aeronautical engineering during WW2. He envisioned surgical strikes, powered armor, space marines and a small military with highly trained soldiers.
One thing that bothered me ... if Clendathu is 50.000 ly away from earth and they launch Asteroids to hit us, if we're generous and say they travel at 0,5c they'd need 100.000 years to reach us ... mhh.
Rubashow Heinlein wasn't enlisted in the Navy, he was appointed to the Naval Academy. He graduated from Annapolis in 1927 and served until he contracted tuberculosis. He was medically retired, and after several failed careers, started writing science fiction in 1939. He soon became one of the most prolific and inventive of science fiction writers, taking the genre from the pulps, to the slicks, to novels in hard covers. Starship Troopers was written to be published as the 13th novel in his popular series of juvenile novels for Scribners; his editor at Scribners rejected it, breaking the chain of options. Heinlein then took it to Putnam's, who published it immediately unchanged from Heinlein's manuscript. Putnam's became his publishers for the most productive period of his life, including for Stranger in a Strange Land, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and Time Enough for Love.
Audie Murphy went from Private to Lieutenant on the "Battlefield ".
And won medal of honor
I was a starship trooper once....true story.
TheConspiredOne
...you were an extra in the film??
Nah...a real one.
Has that been legen... wait for it... dary?
i don't get it.
Roughnecks! Suit up!
Starship Troopers (the film) is really a satire about fascism and propaganda. The idea of big brother utopia where you're not allowed to vote unless you've served in the military. Sure, it's possible to see it as just a popcorn flick, but the film didn't just take the name of the book, it flipped the message right around. It's staggering how many people fail too see this. Case in point: Verhoeven himself said that Casper van Dien (Rico) totally bought into the (fake) fascist propaganda of the movie, and did not see the satire at all. Just a goddamn sci-fi action flick? Not when Paul Verhoeven is around. ;)
Евгения Ремезова
I couldn't disagree more. I did military service for seven and a half months. It taught me no life lessons of worth. Handing over rule to the military is fascism.
Paul Verhoeven survived the Nazi occupation of his native Netherlands in WWII.
all military propagenda always picture war as "necessity". Nazis make war on other country to "protect" Germany from foreign "menaces"...
Евгения Ремезова I can agree with you.
Hell I wouldn't mind a system like in the movie, the propaganda is same as it is irl, if not at least done a bit better.
Also could someone tell me where are the facists? The only nazi reference I remember was Carl wearing that gestapo uniform.
Fascism didn't incorporate big brother mentality. Starship Troopers (film) is a dumbass adaptation from a dumbass director who couldn't read more than two chapters into a book which started off with an action scene. Really, the book's message could be and is left up to interpretation while the movie tries to act like it understands the concepts of National Socialism and Fascism but instead twists it into a retarded goddamn sci-fi action flick. Really, just read about an ideology before criticizing it.
A lot of the things you picked out were actually explained in the movie with throw away lines. Like how they know the asteroids are coming from the Bug Home world. They keep sending them constantly using the Plasma Bugs as de-orbital batteries to send them at Earth. Rico was saved by Rasczak as his Corporal says "Who do you think saved your ass!" It actually surprises me that they do try and answer some of the reasons things happen.
Also, correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the book meant to be a satire of Ultra fascism? I have yet to read the book but last I checked, the author was very pro USA and wrote the book to make fun of fascism. Citation is in a documentary about how Sci Fi authors changed the world or predicted things... I think it is episode 4 which is about Robert A. Heinlein.
The book was actually very militaristic, going into extremely meticulate detail about the military organization and the government surrounding it. It does a great job of establishing setting but it bogs down any anti war message that it may have had (it's been years since I've read it but I do remember the book dedicating pages apon pages of expository fluff)
Vaerhoven despised the book because he felt it had a pro war message, which struck a nerve with him because he experienced war firsthand as a child. So he literally turned it into 90210 with war hungry, Xenophobic, imperialist, fascists invading foreign planets.
Both have their merits, though I prefer the movie as its message has actually gotten more relevant as time progressed
Love your reviews and I respect that you don't review movies you haven't purchased. Definitely can tell you're a great guy to drink with and talk movies'n'shit with.
eat some LSD, watch this movie.........see the "it's afraid" scene.....and start feeling really bad for the bugs. oh well.
I am pleased that Weird Al Yankovich has a clone who reviews movies, apparently.
I'm surprised how different it was from the book; I thought the Satire of the Over-Militarized Utopia was an intentional commentary made by the original book, in order to show how wrong the Federation is. Frankly this review made me realize some things; that we never truly learn if the Bugs are to blame for the destruction of Buenos Aries. What if all the Bugs were doing on Klendathu during the invasion, was just reasonable retaliation against an incoming invasion? Among all the Anti-Bug Propaganda, it probably came off as the Bugs actually DID want to kill us.
Truth be told, I ALWAYS wanted there to be a Starship Troopers 4 - with the sequels, they began to explore just how corrupt the Federation was. I mean seriously; you get hanged for Protesting...In Starship Troopers 2, it gives the impression that the Federation WANTS the war, thereby confirming the theory that the Buenos Aries was just an excuse to begin such a war. Seriously; I want a movie where it's finally all out in the Open. Then Rico can go all Captain America and Winter Soldier the Federation, just like Cap did SHIELD.
But no...The sequels kind of RUINED that opportunity, because the Third one establishes that YES...the Bugs want to wipe us out too.
He did not get the movie.
+Pedro Lopez Please explain to me what the movie stands for then? To me there is nothing to get as more than half of the movie was a relationship drama/teenage drama mix.
+KA R What does his looks have to do anything with a review he makes? To answer ad hominem with another ad hominem: You sound like a high-school jock on steroids and an unhealthy protein diet condescending anything not larger than your body mass.
+Arda Emirgeloğlu damn that was actually a well thought out insult that wasn't just curse words you sir have won a internet cookie
the movie is a satire of fascism, jingoism, & military culture
not only that its a satire of how we view a "hero" in a film the hero is supposed to save the day Rico just survived and played a small role in a bigger picture same with all the characters who contributed little to the plot but are still recognizable they represent how little of a difference an individual actually makes compared to the whole that is why the battle was won when Rico was rescuing Carmen he probably unintentionaly forced the Brainbug into an ally squad
You really have to need some backstory and read the book to fully understand it.
Question, since the bugs are described as colonizing other planets by "hurling their spore into space" how exactly is clearing the other planets supposed to help them take Klandathu? They aren't going to be able to move reinforcements between planets as far as the humans know.
Love your vids. Never stop doing them!
I wish for a by the book....uhm.....book....adaptation. Power suits should be interesting
David Oncioiu Hearing how vastly different the book is, I have to say I'm at least intrigued to track it down and give it a read. Maybe I'll even get past chapter 2!
Decker Shado I had the opportunity to read it at some point but I was 12 and with the attention span of a squirrel on crack. I might have it at home, if I find it I'll surely read it. Quick question: If an book adaptation would happen, who would you see as the actors portraying characters and what writer/director? Also: who would you WANT to act and direct?
David Oncioiu Hard to say as the fact that I haven't read the book yet means I'm completely ignorant on the subject outside of what I managed to dig up while researching the film. So I think I'll have to avoid making either rash decisions based on ignorance of the material, or simply because I'm also too out of the loop with what's going on in Hollywood right this minute.
"Do you think you could dig up Al Jolson?"
Decker Shado Well, I guess we'll have to read it now :))
agreed
Gonna say first i loved this movie when i first saw it. Though later in life I'm laughing how every time i see this movie now i cant help but notice that at the scene of 10:20 if you pause it with the tall man within the corridor to the left of the tank Rico's in is actually my girlfriends father and when i found out he played an extra in this movie. What's more is I just laughed even harder that his motivation in that scene was "where is the bathroom?" as i now see that as he walks back and forth in that corridor during the scene. This movie just got even better for me knowing that haha XD
£70.00 for all three StarShip Trooper from Amazon has to be a really bargain, come in comes in Box set with word La Trilogye.
Seems watching these Decker Shado reviews about StarShip troop movies has saved me £70.00, that's about $500.00 in real money. Boy thanks Shado the man from Hawaii.
would be a pretty interesting video game imo
Mike Perry there was
When i saw this on your channel... I screamed in excitement!
Easter Egg in Casper meets Wendy : CVD talks about killing bugs.
Why do so many people say nukelar instead of nuclear? I don't get it.
I liked the movie, my grandpa took me to see it when I was 6.😅
me:hey zim your famous.
zim:What i'm famous, grr i'm famous!
grrr:TACOS!!!
zim:Yes, grr we will get victory tacos.
Their armour is worse then paper. Why don’t they update it or make it stronger.
Decker Shado
Just thought I'd let you know their is a fourth film in the series 'Starship Troopers: Invasion' and an animated series known as 'Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles' that attempt to tell a different story of how the events take place.
In addition their is a reboot planned that promises to be more faithful :P
AT&T in the 23rd century? Thought they would have a better coverage plan.
Klendathu is on the opposite side of the galaxy from Earth. So even traveling at light speed, that meteor would have taken 100,000 years to reach Earth.
Yeah, I always found it weird, make me questions the federation because it makes no sense that the bugs were able to control a meteor.
7:16 dude was probably like "now you know how it feels" lol
I find it ironic that Aliens is a more faithful adaption of Starship Troopers than this movie. They both use basic BDUs and such, but the marine cast of Aliens were required to read Starship Troopers to get more into their roles.
Electric antennae makes more sense than shooting laser beams out of a creature's double beaks. Like in the anime.
Decker thinking that this is a movie about a relationship is the most cute and innocent thing ever :>
Actually Decker let me help clarify why Zanders gave her the knife. He knows one of them gonna die and if he acted then they’re both dead since they are pinned downed and are surrounded by millions of other bugs waiting to rip them to shreds. He sacrificed himself so Carmine can have a better chance to survive long enough for Rico to save her... either that or their Psychic friend told him to give her the knife.
The asteroid which collided with the Roger Young due to Carmen's navigational error is the exact same one that destroyed Buenos Aires -- BECAUSE the collision knocked it out of its natural orbit and into an intercept course with the Earth. Unable to stop the catastrophe from occurring, the Federation Council blamed it on the bugs whom they were about to attack, anyway.
I'd say either the Imperial Guard from Warhammer 40k were the inspiration for the starship troopers, or Vice Versa. I mean come on, the armor looks SO similar.
So, like, how did the meteor get to Earth in a measurable amount of time? And how did the bugs have such good aim? And how did the collision with a ship not throw the rock off-course?
They do come up with a small reason for the psychic ability. NPH described that the running theory is that it's a new evolution of man (that is trickling into human genes)
Melanie Trump took cues from Juan Rico
Every time I see a movie its based on a book which makes people question the movie righting it is eager than making a movie out of it
I LOVED THIS MOVIE !!! . THERE'S SO MUCH ENERGY FROM THE ACTORS..
They are really on fire in this..They all play their roles with such conviction that it makes it the great movie it is . 👍👍👍
Dina Meyer was much better looking than Denise Richards in the movie
I never understood the part at 3:18. He says he sees the ace of spades, pushes the button, and there's an ace of spades on the screen, yet he gets it wrong? Wtf?
It would have been interesting if Johnny Rico (real first name "Juan") had been played by a Filipino. Of course, Heinlein didn't reveal this in the novel until the last few paragraphs.
while i love the movie it is absolutely unacceptable that the director didnt even put down enough effort to read more than 2 chapters just because his political view was different. sounds more like he was so insecure in his stance that he couldnt have any opposing views presented to him. honestly thats beyond pathetic and symptomatic for the hollywood elites.
I get that my take on Starship Troopers (the book) is not a common one, but i totaly disagree that it romanticized the society it portrayed.
Spoilers ahead, but i kinda need to venture the waters to make my points.
In the book we start with a war agains an enemy that is by all means fascinating. They are not just "Spacebuggs" but their own highly evolved spiecies and society.
But the war-forged society of earth cant see them for what they are. The society has blinded itself.
We start at war, we end at war, the society dont realy achieve anything.
The journey of the main character is not an epic tale of heroism, but rather the sad tale of someone who looses everything to a war that society cant comprehend or do anything about. First he looses his home due to the ineptitude the society has for defending itself (I mean earth has spaceships, massive weapon arrays, infantry equipped with nukes and so much more, and the enemy attacks earth successfully by tossing rocks at it? Realy? Home fleet cant blow up an asteroid?). He looses all his friends throughout the story, most of them through war, but some of them lose themselves in the organization, becoming people he no longer can recognice. And at the end he looses the last remnants of his family as his father joins his squad under him, subverting the Father/Son relationship into a Commander/Solder relationship.
Basicly he goes from being Rico and becomes Anonymous Solder Nr. 427 (Just picked a number, not referencing the book)
As we start the book the first enemy that are described are rebels, showing a drastic and dramatic split within humanity. Its not realy brought up again, but it sure as hell is still there.
The army is stuck in its own self-glorification to the degree that they think they can win by just throwing bodies at the enemy, because the mentality is "Army, Fuck Yea!" much like Vietnam.
I could go on, but it was a while ago i read the book, and would need to read it again for a longer analysis of it, but this was my feeling as i read through it the first time, and it was only strenghtended by a second read through.
In essence, the book has an unreliable narrator, his views brainwached by the machinery of the organization he is a part of. Concider that we meet the narrator allready a part of said organization, and whatever views are shown of him Before he joins up are him reminiscing back.
To me, its not a "Military, Fuck yea!" story, but rather a "Guys, look at this sad tale and tale heed from it" sort of thing.
And yea, i have heard that Heinlein very much intended it to be a "Military, Fuck Yea!" story, but i have never heard or read him express that himself (Though he might have, just not heard it), and gogo Death of the Author. Whatever he meant as he was writing it counts for nothing, since we make the story our own.
Just my perspective on it.
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I absolutely love this movie... except for all of the scenes containing Denise Richards from after she and Rico and Neil Patrick Harris join the Armed Services until about when she and Zander crash land into that cavern. In my opinion the movie would have been better without the Carmen scenes. It was with these scenes that ST crossed the line between campy to shitty. I have nothing against Denise Richards but I feel like the film could have easily been improved by writing her out and replacing her screen-time with a sub-plot about Karl. They could have totally expanded on the Psychic elements of the film and made it more than just some hamfisted sci-fi shit. They had Michael Ironside, Clancy Brown, Neil Patrick Harris and Jake Busey just sitting around and they didn't get half the screen-time Denise Richards got. Hell, I liked Jake Busey's character more than Denise Richards' in the first five seconds he appeared on screen ha ha
+Bailey Deverell
he was a bitch... i mean really a bitch...
17:41 Since the brain bug just sucked out his brains, wouldn't it already know he handed her a knife ?
That moment at 5:40, it was so... sage like in quality. You sound so wise, like yoda.