HobbyZone - Apprentice STOL - 700mm - Unbox, Build, Radio Setup, Maiden Flight, NX10, & RealFlight
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Flew it today for the first time. Trained on realflight first. Flys very similar to realflight. Watch the wind. It can get away with you. The more power you add in safe the higher it climbs. Great videos, helped greatly.
Yes, it can, but still very glad you're getting in the air!!!! Congrats!
It is so nice to see someone evaluating a plane for beginners. Thanks for taking the time and putting the plane thought its paces. This is why you guys (gal camera crew LOL) are the very best.
The last model plane I flew was when I was 14 (1962, yeah, I'm an old fart LOL) and it was one of those control line circle flyers. RC airplanes were way too expensive for me to ever consider. At one point in my life I even started taking flying lessons to get a private pilot's license. Now that I am retired and have all kinds of time, and more hobbies than I can count, I want to start flying model planes, and this looks like the perfect plane to start with. I like the simplicity of the design. It does not have all the bells and whistles of advanced models but hearkens back to the kind of planes that one would buy when I was younger, it's nostalgic, even though it is electric powered (I hated those old engines with their glow plugs) and sophisticated.
Everybody starts (or re-starts) somewhere. We want to provide as much information as we possibly can to get you back in the air. Things are so much different (and easier and cheaper!) than they were back in the day. This is a great option to jump back in with!
Just received mine today! Flew my 400mm warbird in preparation for tomorrow's flight! Thanks for such an Amazingly thorough review!! I'll use your code for all purchases
Thanks! We really appreciate your support! Good luck on your flight tomorrow... the STOL is a great plane.
I just bought one today, and a few extra batteries. I’ve been debating it for sometime. Gotta say, WOW!! Parts and batteries are affordable, out of the box for my first hobby shop plane is great. I was a little freaked out and nervous from previous experiences that I’ve had from a different plane that may have been more advanced than what I’m used to. Out of the box read the instructions. Went to two different parks and practiced a few things. Did I mention picking up two more batteries was only $22? I had a blast with this new plane.
Yeah, it's a total blast, and super reasonable for price. Now that you're whistle is wet, time to jump in 100% ;) Ohhhhhh yeah!
Replacement parts, such as propellers, are hard to get
Good stuff brother ....been watching for a few weeks now and you got me hooked. I've been playing around with drones for a while with the grand kids. Then started watching you with the these planes and guess what? yep I bought the Apprentice 700 RTF today and I also singed into amazon thru your affiliate link and saved it so now on every amazon purchase (which is a lot more than I'd like to admit) will go thru your affiliate link. I'm going to make the purchases anyway may as well tie you in with it. Winter is almost here, and I can't ride my bike much so I may as well spend some money on planes. Thanks for all you do and educating people in this hobby.
Just setting mine up now and going through the amazingly helpful video for the third time.
I saw that you used a bind plug to bind the NX10, but the Rx can be bound automatically without a plug. If you look back in through the battery hatch to the receiver you'll see there's a flashing LED on the left hand (as you're looking) side of the unbound Rx. This alternates between 20 seconds of continuous flashing and 20 seconds of groups of (I think) four flashes with breaks in between them. For the 20s it's flashing continuously it's available to bind a DSMX transmitter, and for the 20s of intermittent flashing it can bind an SLT transmitter like the one that comes with the PNP version. I guess when you tried without the plug you must have landed on the SLT period.
Thanks for such an awesome channel and for the great amount of time and thought you must put in to produce such long and detailed and entertaining explanations. Now what about a review of the Kavan Twin Shark 2700? That's the one I want when I've learned to fly on this one! 🙂
Thanks for getting me back into the hobby and focusing more on RC Planes than reviewing drones. A lot cheaper and more fun. I wish I had a camera crew. My camera crew just yells a lot! 😎 Happy flying from Nebraska.
Welcome back! Glad to have you here with us!
You are awesone! The lipo adapter is gold. And your videos rock.
Wow, your videos are excellent.
Also special thanks to the Camera crew
Patiently waiting for the B1. Saw a F-4 phantom in my hobbyshop, so now I'm waiting for ur video on that!!
Thanks for all your help. I’m thinking about getting back into it now that the kids are grown.
You should! You're part of our TARGET audience, and we try very hard to help people just like you get BACK into the hobby. We hope you'll be with us for a while, as you get your feet under you. There's so much that's changed since you were in the hobby last, I have to assume, as it was a huge change from when I was a kid, and more involved. Difference for me, I didn't ever fly, but would have killed to do this when I was a kid!!!!!!!!
Welcome!
Just got my plane today Love your videos. You are amazing at making these videos.❤
Awesome! Thank you! This plane is a blast, and a GREAT way to get your feet wet in the hobby!!! Soon you'll be getting 1700mm planes ;) Can't wait!
@@BrianPhillipsRCI thought this, but I was wrong. Parts are on backorder for at least 4 months. Do not buy this shit.
Bryan, the props for the apprentice 700 stol are out of stock everywhere. Do you know another brand prop that will fit? Love your channel. Thanks.
Thanks for the review Brian😎 always a blast watching your videos
Thanks for watching!
Very cool plane and remote I like the idea of using it right out of the box with the flight sim. The radio when I seen SLT I remember Tower hobbies had a brand under that name. They had a add on module to put on your transmitter and then you could use one of their receivers. I tried it out but had to send it back due to bad signal / reception and sent me another one but same issue. I figured it just had to do with the area I was flying at. . I eventually sold My Futaba And the SLT and went Spektrum and have not had any signal issues since.
You talking bout anylink? I have a great planes f-86 Sabre
Perfect 1st plane and perfect practice plane in small places. This would also be a fun bird to fpv.
that's a great starter plane and even if someone who has experience just to mess around with it, and to have just for someone to teach them on wish they use jst plug instead of the ph plug, good review☺🛩🛩👍👍
Awesome work Brian !
Thanks!
It's a trainer, beginners don't necessarily need to start with flaps, love it
Does the NX8 give the REVERSE in that 700mm Stol ?? Or do I need to step up to the 10 ? I feel I won’t be ready for nx10 for quite some time
Mine did not need the bind plug. the receiver will cycle alternating between DSMX and SLT it will flash fast for DSMX and slow for SLT. Binded my NX-8 while flashing fast without a plug. I did get the BNF model .
Wow very nice
You’re doing outstanding job showing these planes thank you. It’s too bad it didn’t have a JST same as the micro planes. Batteries could be interchanged. That would’ve been much better AS3X would be nice.
Thanks!
Thanks Wayne! We appreciate your support!
NIIIIICE 👌🏻
Thanks!
Hi Brian. I appreciate your content. Excellent RC channel. Question? I fly the Apprentice 700 rtf and the Carbon S2 1300 rtf, and I'm interested in adding the UMX Turbo Timber 700 bnf to my hanger. Do I need to buy another transmitter or will either of the two rtf kit transmitters also work with the Timber? If not, then is there an inexpensive transmitter that you can suggest for the Turbo Timber 700? Thanks.
I have some 2S 300 mAh 30c batteries with a 3-pin male JST connectors. Any idea if there is a connector/converter that converts the male JST to male PH connector?
Hi Brian, I’m definitely thinking about taking your advice in ordering this plane I see they sell three different batteries? Which one comes with the plane? I was going to order a the 50 C spectrum or the 30 C spectrum not sure which one will work with the charger?
Hi Brian. Would I be able to program flapperons on this airplane to make it an ultra-slow trainer? It seems like it would be a simple programming chore, unlike the flapperons you customized for the Slow Ultra Stick?
Been into rc cars for a few years and I'm about to get my first plane, the Apprentice 700. Question for you, the transmitter that comes with the rtf, will I be able to use it with other planes if I stick with it? Sorry if you've gone over this in the video but I'm easily distracted.
What will be the best choice between this plane and the Arrows Bigfoot 1300mm RTF w/ Vector Stabilization
Great channel, great videos, thanks from Portugal
Do you know if I can pair my DXS transmitter I got with my Aeroscout with this?
Very nice flaying
Plane looks awesome, the price could be lower, especially for the RTF version. In any case thank you for the review 👍
It’s pretty fheap
Have you ever tried to bind using a SLT tx?
Is good the Arrows Pionner 620 ?
Love the videos Brian. One question. I’m a beginner with no experience in flying but have been into R/C cars and planes for many years. What would your recommendation be for a 50 year old newbie pilot? I’m ready to buy either an Apprentice S 1.2 or the Apprentice STOL
Just broke the prop. What propellers work with this plane? Everything I see is on back order? Will any 6x3.5 fit or what other spec do I need to look for?
In my experience, you’re screwed. Yeah you can buy other props and make them fit if you have tools, but if you don’t, just buy some more tools, same as most hobbies. Money pit.
How does this compare to a turbo timber umx
Would there be a way to put leds on it ?
I have seen the Turbo Timber EVO rudder is a weak link . Is the Stol any better ?
Happy to see that you lost that visor bud! 👊
Thanks for the review
Only for this video... don't worry, it'll be back! :)
Isn’t that slt radio same as tactics for great planes ? I see that on those tactic radios
I think this plane will be good to get my youngest to start flying
This is a great beginner option!
I have not yet taken my first flight, I have only tried the simulator, but there is something that was not clear to me, it says in the manual that the flight time is 6 to 8 minutes, the control emits a sound to warn that the plane's battery is already Is it low or do I have to time my flight, how do I find out?Apologies if perhaps it is something obvious but I am using the translator, greetings from Costa Rica
can I still use a spektrum dx6i ?
Another great video… 👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks!
Please do a beginners video with this plane as if it where you're first time flying, you haven't done one in a while and it would be nice to do it with this plane
Just ordered one of these can you bind the included transmitter to another plane? no biggie if not, but would be cool if you could.
never mind don't want you to get in trouble
No lights, what a bummer, but for a beginner, a good one to start on.
LED's are always great, but not a necessity on a beginner plane like this.
Shame it doesn't have proper clevis attachments for the control surfaces. Not a big fan of the bent wire approach as it is really hard to fine tune the trim.
can i use the included battery on a umx plane? i want to buy a Waco or umx conscendo
If you do, you might need a Micro PH to JST connector adapter, just an FYI, see below
1:09:00 The funny thing is that had he not been wearing glasses he would have shot his eye out. The one thing you never did with a BB gun is shoot at metal objects where the BB could bounce as it did with him. Besides, with a piece of soft wood behind your paper target, the BBs could be recovered and reused.
try twice when binding without using bind wire. 2nd time mine did bind
yep, the thing CYCLES between SLT and DSMX and I didn't yet realize it.
gotta love UMX
They are a great size class!
did you get your gmail I sent?@@BrianPhillipsRC
what telemetry data does the NX6 receive from the Apprentice STOL 700?
All the stuff the UMX'es (Rx Bricks) send...SMART battery and esc telemetry, I believe. It's all I need, but some want VARIO on some planes...pretty sure that's NOT in there.
Would you recommend this one over the Sport Cub S2 and Aeroscout for someone who wants to learn to fly a park flyer in manual mode? Or is there a different plane you would recommend? Thanks!
That's tricky... over the Sport Cub S2? Yes, this one. Over the AeroScout? That's tough. Depends on your flying space size. The AeroScout is a little bigger and needs a little more room. Both are excellent options. Also depends on if you want the dual protocol rx.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks a lot, Brian! I also just checked out your video for the UMX Turbo Timber Evo, which seems like another great option, though less durable in crashes? In that video you mentioned the snow in Iowa, which is awesome because I'm in Ankeny! Small world!
@@HisArchitect21hey man. did you make a decision? im in the same spot now. de funcub and the timber evo are really nice. imwant something slower for smaller places. what did you buy? greetings
And the Motor is much quieter than in the UMX-Things!
It is very quite, but other UMX planes that are slower might be using BRUSHED motors. That's probably what you're thinking of...they use that little "gearbox" based system.
I do have your camera gal is a pro , smooth , stays on target , a real pro
Thanks!
Seems to me to be a bit pricey and small for entry level... I would the Aero Scout as a more cost effective starter plane... I know you were not doing a comparative review but just a single plane review. Just wanted to comment on the Price Point for this plane.
Do LOVE the channel and personally watch EVERY episode!
With Remote ID requirement just around the corner you’ll probably see more
I think you also have to keep in mind the dual-protocol receiver, the weight, the included battery, and the Real Flight trainer edition when comparing the price between this and the AeroScout. Both of them are EXCELLENT trainer options depending on your location and other factors.
I cabnt get the 2s battery to start a charge off a S1100 just gives a ?
Are you 100% sure you're using the right adapter? If you're doing it wrong, it can be dangerous...so check these things...
1) Does your balance lead go into the port correctly (it's BLACK, so HARD TO SEE!)...make sure the polarity is correct... (-) NEGATIVE / GROUND is on the LEFT most pin
2) I assume you have an IC3 to JST adapter, since that's the TYPE of connector you should have on this plane....and it connects ALSO.
3) If you only have the DISCHARGE LEAD (red - jst lead) plugged in, it WON'T WORK!!! You must have the balance lead inserted, and NOT to the RIGHT SIDE - meaning, it would register the cells at the TOP of the range, not 1 and 2...but rather cells 5 and 6 would populate the screen.
4) IS THE BATTERY TOTALLY DEAD? What about below about 2.8V DC per cell? If you don't know how to check, get a DMM (Digital Multimeter) and use the three pins of the balance lead to check between each pair...which are the two cells in series ( hence 2S ) then verify BOTH sets show between about 3.00-4.20 VDC...and if that's true, you have something FISHY going on with the charger.
5) NOW test with another battery, or do this first...does it work? Use a DUMB battery, NOT a SMART battery, as these 2S packs AREN'T SMART (if you didn't pick up on that detail).
6) Okay, now that you've tried most stuff, if it STILL doesn't work - you better get that thing to a hobby shop or contact Horizon Hobby - don't want to get you into a bad situation. When and if you EVER have a charger that miss-behaves, put it on notice. USE EXTRA CAUTION, up to and including charging outside on concrete, if you want to be 100% sure. If there's a REAL problem, don't risk it. Verify it's working before you get caught in a bad situation. Always be careful and respect your chargers and batteries, but even with SMALL lipos, there's a real risk of fire, so don't screw around too much. If you find a stupid issue, fix it. If it's working after you identify and resolve your issue(s), then go back to normal carefulness. - Remember, 2 main ways people get hurt in this hobby 1) prop cuts - which can be terrible & 2) Lipos - don't get hurt EITHER way!
BAL wire was not plugged in, smh
THANKS MAN!
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This reminds me of my micro tundra it’s same size the good thing I have on tundra it also has flaps on it , do you have that plane Brian it’s made by durafly it was sold by hobbyking, it looks a great starter plane though thanks for the vid guy’s, big salute 🫡 Gary 🇬🇧
I've been wanting a Tundra for awhile now, are they pretty durable and have good thrust on 3S ???
@@EJ-74 the micro tundra from hobby king flys on 2s but the larger ones are a good plane
@@gazza4230 Oh ok I didn't even know they had a micro Tundra lol I'm going to have to check them out, thanks!
Looks like a great beginner plane!
We think so!
Which one would be better, this plane or the aeroscout
Apprentice 1.2m. For beginners, you don't want to deal with wind affecting your flight, and with anything less than very low winds this Apprentice STOL wouldn't handle very well, in my opinion. The 1.2m Apprentice can take much stronger winds and doesn't cost too much, even as an RTF kit. I've flown the Apprentice 1.2m in winds strong enough to push the plane around on the ground and I was able to control it just fine in the air, and land properly too. If you don't like the Apprentice, that 1.1m Aeroscout will do you well too. Friend of mine has one and it's sturdy and easy to fly. PERSONALLY? I'd buy the Apprentice, STOL or 1.2m, and the Aeroscout. Once you start buying, it's hard to stop...
Apprentice STOL or Arrows Pioneer for first plane?
Im gonna be a first time flyer. I have boats and 60+ cars. Ive been looking at the 1.5 apprentice sts. Wouldn't it be a safe plane to start with also?
The 1.5 apprentice is a popular club trainer especially at larger fields. I’ve only flown it on the sim but it’s probably the easiest plane to fly on the sim very forgiving. This STOL 700mm version would be better for smaller areas and parks since its wingspan is less than half of the full size 1.5m (1500mm) apprentice. You’d just need more area to fly the larger aircraft.
Bigger planes will handle wind better. How often are there ideal conditions for flying? Not very often, at least for me. I'd go with the bigger plane, at least the 1.2m. Personally, I'd buy the larger plane and this new one too...
I like that it comes in RTF and BNF options. I can see that plane getting the Frankenstein treatment if it ends up under my Christmas tree.
Full time flaps, LEds, floats and 3s 800mAh POWER!! 😂
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Bnf type need spectrum TX which is more expensive so.... I don't know if bnf worth
@@user-yq5dm5gq2q The folks that already use Spektrum TX and already have a few batteries will gobble em up.
It'll be another UMX plane that can go on vacation with the fam.
Do you think it would handle a 450mah battery?
Probably. If it fits, the plane should be able to handle that minuscule amount of weight, but do please check you CG and make sure you're still good to go.
And what would the NX6 receive from the Habu STS
All the stuff that the Habu has, like battery level and other telemetry details...the DXs / DXe only has the ability to give certain feedback to the Tx, so if you have the NX6 - you'll get more, or at least you'll SEE / HEAR it ;)
Hi Brian can you get to the BNF plug with the wings off Thanks Woody 🏴
just saw a house just likeyours on add on appvideo waseven same color loooked like yours!!!!
Any chance you can leave a link to tower hobby. For some reason i cant check out with horizon. Dont know why. Ive bought from every other company but not horizon. Thanks. Im going to buy that one
Sure thing! If you just use this link...
bprc.me/TowerHobbies
and search for the Apprentice STOL, that will work! I'd make you a direct link, but we are currently at Bigfoot in Birmingham! Thank you so much for your support!
In those tight corners, in experienced mode, you only use the ailerons? or you mix with rudder??
It's a UMX Apprentice!
Sure is!
What is the best beginner plane
There isn't necessarily a "best" beginner plane. It depends on budget, flying area, experience/comfort level, etc. This Apprentice STOL is a great option, but we list other choices at www.brianphillipsrc.com/beginnerplanes
Props are on month long back order
Another month, still waiting
Still waiting. F horizon
that was same experence i have glod berg ranger 30 020 cox itwent across front yard acrossfield to hay field 70 ‘ distant i was all over plans investigateing the cg😮
had a nice calm day here in OHIO flew aprentis stol flys great tattu 300s only last 10 min is cold weather under70 hard on flite time? i think its good considering...........? 42:34 lets see how pond/ lakecomming 43:26 43:27 43:29
where did the power lines go?
We paid to have the buried. :)
@BrianPhillipsRC no shit!! I love your and your wife's videos. The "put it in the hole" inuendos and such. I have ordered the RealFlight Evo simulator and am getting my first plane, hobby zone apprentice STOL S. Thanks for what you and you woman do!!
41:25 I don't know why a person who is experienced and has more sophisticated equipment and advanced planes would buy this except as a teaching tool for giving flying lessons.
I'm thinking of buying something like this for flying in my culdesac when I don't feel like packing up my large planes and driving to my flying location.
@@Whatever11131 It looks like a great beginner's plane, unfortunately it is currently sold out. I'm betting this video by Brian has a lot to do with that.
Wow can't believe they made a stol out of this plane lol
I need the original USB charger that came with this Apprentice stol 700mm.
Can you help me out in anyway. Thank Mike.
You can find a replacement here...
bprc.me/USB-C_Lipo_Charger
You need the PH2.0 to replace the original.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you so much. Great demo on the apprentice, I'm very excited to try it out. 😀
Nice video sir. But if you have communicating with company tell them that is too expensive for training model. Thanks.
I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. If you want to learn to fly the right way, you're going to buy a hobby grade, durable airplane with quality equipment, a minimum of 4 channel controls, and plenty of aftermarket support, and for $230 this plane is a bargain. If you're thinking about those $40 planes you see at target, Walmart, or those cheesy Chinese websites, you are taking a very bad first step towards learning to fly. You get what you pay for...
I know exactly what I say. To attract someone you should have attractive prices. Ι mean all these serious companies.
Hey Brian i wanted to ask you ur opinion nd or thots on banana hobby
Hola amigo me gustan mucho tus videos me puedes vender uno
I have trouble with the two minute video let alone two hours
I don't blame you, I too don't have time for a 2 hour video. Our content is for people trying to learn a lot, aka beginners and people returning to the hobby, so if we're not for you, that's fine. Just remember, there's loads of other people on UA-cam that will never answer your questions, and help you make bad decisions ;) Good luck!
Hey Y'alls I'm #1 Again! 🤣🤣😁😎
Congratulations! ;)
Yay another high win with big wheels...
Horizon seriously is just getting lazy at this point.
Yeah, that SR-71 is a real snooze fest, right?
Do women like "squishy"??????
Can anyone say Toys R Us.. Now there really wasting their time and skill on producing stuff they should be selling at the dime store.. I'm truly wondering about HH O well just my 2cents.
Pretty sure big box stores didn't and will never sell quality planes and equipment like the Apprentice line. Durability? 4 channel control? Stability software? Real Flite simultaor? Adequate parts support? TRU never sold anything like that...
Another Timber/cub no creativity in this WACKED company, They really could use a AIRPLANE ENCYCLOPEDIA!!!!!
They're trying to lure in new fliers. This plane isn't for the quarter scale EDF crowd that only flies on ultra high rates and no expo...
This plane is sooo unneeded ! Just a waste of time and money .
Again, more people are learning to fly on smaller airplanes than ever before! And we want to GROW the hobby by offering models like this that more people can afford to buy and fly in more spaces and smaller spaces...without having to worry about remote ID or FAA registration because it's under the 250 gram weight limit. If you already know how to fly then it's "unneeded" for you...but it is needed to grow the hobby!
This plane was very much need due to the New Faa I'd requirements. It's just small enough to be exempt from needing an ID module.
@@FalconWing1813 we’ll I fly at a proper air field and flying scale and Rc model planes bs tots is what I’m into
@@shownuff891I tried that club field stuff, but the crew was not very nice to new people. Especially rookies like I was at the time. I decided I did not want to pay all that money to them to just act that way. Lol. So I just went solo at local schools. But that was many years ago. I don't fly anymore but do enjoy watching everyone fly on you tube.
Is there such a thing as an RC plane, a toy, that's "needed?" If so, who are you to decide who needs what planes to fly? I'll make my own decisions about what I need and don't need to fly, thanks...
@BrianPhillips, I accidentally damaged the circuitry. While connecting the battery, some sparks flew, and the wire on the plug got burned (like a fuse wire blowing off). I think such damages can be prevented by adding a power switch like on the Apprentice 1500. Is it feasible to add a switch like on the STOL? If so, what hardware do you suggest?
How'd you even hook it up backwards? The power wires are keyed on your battery, since it's a MicroPH 2S lead, so if you line them up right, they go together...if backwards, they're not supposed to even press in.
I would say, rather than try to add a switch, use a little more caution in landing your battery lead. There used to be power switches on SOME planes, but even then, they were primarily on planes were you had to REACH PAST the prop to load a pack. This was more for safety of the pilot than for polarity protection, as I understood it.
That being said, accidents happen. I hooked up a 6S pack backwards ONCE to an XT90, which I didn't realize you could force an IC5 into an XT90, but you CAN...evidently. Once I fixed the end on the ESC, she fired up and worked flawlessly. I was lucky...VERY lucky, and it only cost be a half hour of work, and a new XT90 end, and new IC5 end...
@@BrianPhillipsRCTo put it in my words: I screwed it up by connecting the battery in the wrong direction, i.e. + to - and vice versa. Right?
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