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The value of OPC hunting in STFC vs Pointless PVP events set up by Scopely
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- I think @everyone knows how much I enjoy OPC hunting! I'm a firm believer that, especially for F2P, it adds enjoyment and lessens the amount of grind time in the game. There's a difference between pirating and being a rogue. However, STFC doesn't always set up events with the player's (and their social structures) in mind. Today (2-15-2023) Scopely released an open-ended 2 day "purge" style PVP event that will frustrate players because it just invites an open free for all in any system.
Topics covered:
1. The joys of OPC hunting and some of my latest tags
2. Why PVP events like today need designated systems and bracket structures when we aren't in Incursions
3. Respecting the playstyles of all players
4. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to drop those questions in the comments!
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Fully agree with you.
I remember last time a full server wide PvP event was tried. It turned servers into ghost towns, with most of the server shielded.
Less than 2 hours after the event started, thats how my server was.
Shame scoopley forgot there own lessons of the past.
I think you nailed it with the video today. I mainly pve, and I have ships that aren’t opc getting hit several times a week when these events come around. My station lives under a peace shield near constantly, I’m ready for the game to make pvp better and not just a free for all. Thanks for advocating for all of us Rev
100% agree with you Rev. The people who win this event aren't even going to win by actual PvP. The people who win this will be the ones who trade hits with sarco's or Enterprise & Leslie. If it was just an SMS I'd engage in it because there would be rewards for the effort. This will only reward a handful of people but will inconvenience or out right piss off everyone else. They've run pvp events like this before and everyone just turtled (even the PVPers). Pvper's aren't happy because there are no targets besides humping dead bases, Nobody else is happy because they can't work on dailies without being constantly attacked. This arc is doing a great job towards curing my FOMO, I see an event like this and just pop a 3 day shield. I'd rather do taxes.
Actually had more fun doing my taxes honestly.
@@elidelajandro You must be getting a refund :)
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Yay! Scopley just gave me a reason to do something else for 2 days. They just tanked the holiday event by making the rest of it's time open PvP. As long as I can get my BP events done I'm good. PvP events are only popular if they are limited to specific systems....
This is the event that SCOPELY rolled out a few years ago where everyone just went home and shielded. We are seeing this today. Also, my alliance figures this event was in response to the failure of Incursions.
Location specific and operations level is a far better idea for pvp events. For instance, some players rely on Si Vi Para Bellum, which is running at the same time as the pvp event. If these events do not get changed, it will lead to players quitting the game
I got a bit lucky, was able to get Get the pve events done before everyone realized that there was a pvp event
I think quitting would be a bit extreme as most seasoned players know to avoid peak times and when the PvPers have completed the event they will move on. Annoying, yes, quit? Not for this.
They should just call this event the 2-day Purge SLB. Most of my alliance has recalled their ships and shielded. Another name for this event is the Taking a 2-day break from the game event. Assonine.
I agree in most of what you said. But not in token space! You need quite some ressorces for tokens and just for opc I think you should not be shoot. Live long and prosper!
This game is enough of a grind. We don't need open pointless pvp putting a wrench in that for 6 hours, let alone 2 days. I haven't missed dailies in more than 3 years and I'm thinking of logging off for 2 days because this is absurd. And I'm not even an anti-PVP player.
Why would you not log in just because of a pvp event? That’s just sad just play the game and don’t do the event that simple
@Samuel Adams guessing you don't have a server where it's impossible to do anything except that event while it's ongoing. I either participate in the event or i sit and stare at my station floating. I don't mind PVP, but I'd rather spend time with family than stare at a floating station. And the event doesn't have enough value to participate in.
@@beeznutz6555 that’s fair I just don’t see why people let certain events stop them from playing same with the “monthly purge” our server does people just not log in because of 1 thing they don’t like that just mess it all up for them for some reason
@@samueladams2141 I’ll tell you why, to send a message. The game has many fundamental design flaws. The biggest one is a terrible combat system. It’s just not fun at all. I’m amazed by people who care about winning a PvP battle. The other is a ridiculous amount of grind, with almost zero ways to get more efficient through specialization and trade.
So, a PvP event like this one has no value. It only serves to depopulate servers. Killing another ship for no loot is a lose lose. Make it an SLB, and it’s lose lose with a prize to the biggest losers on your server. Guys who paid money to get ahead, get bigger ships, and delude themselves into thinking they are smarter or better than anyone else. Ironically, because of the dirt tiering system, and weak economy system, the idiots are simply losing their food supply as lower power players choose to simply quit or start playing sporadically.
Here, here!
Thanks Rev, always great hearing you voicing the opions of the many
Open PvP while people are trying to do that ridiculous 3 mil Trit mission is kind of a swing and a miss. I don't mind the open PvP when mining in general is optional. That Trit mission is not so optional. Thursday's battlepass better not be mining or that will really tweak some players that like to do the battlepass over flow.
Completely agree but I think there’s one element you overlooked: The completely unbalanced nature of PvP. I like PvP that has a purpose and where I have a chance to win OR lose. Territory battles with an similarity powered alliance can be a lot of fun. I hate seeing a level 60 come in and steamroll everyone (yes, they paid good money for their toys and want to play with them, that’s fine). I like going into battle against a stronger (on paper) player and seeing my better crewing/research/usage of the triangle win out.
I strongly believe that Scopely needs to take a big step back and rethink the basics of what makes pvp fun.
Nailed it rev. I'm mostly pve. Today took multiple ships to do my dailies.
Every time I went into a system to do them. I was hit after only get 3-5 hostiles. Ended up shielding for the day and not doing everything
Agree with you 100%. All this means is I have all my alliance mates asking over and over why someone hit them, and it'll be next to impossible to finish dailies for the next two days. Stupid and pointless this way.
Great vid Rev! I much prefer pvp in select systems. I can chose to participate if I want than being forced to scale back my play for two days bc whales gotta throw their small nacelles around.
Never seems to amaze me how many new lows Scopely comes up with.
Thank you for the video..I wondered why all my ships was getting attacked..I’ll just take the day off…
This is like a single-server incursion - you know because everyone loves incursions so much.
-Shawn
Agreed all around, Rev. Wouldn't argue against a single point you made.
I agree totally with your opinion. PvP yes, but in dedicated systems, not galaxywide. This causes me a 2 day pause, including not to finish all needed events. Btw this 2 day shows up again, that there is more in the world than STFC. Maybe I'll extend these phase 😎...
I agree. You hit the mark today. Scopely needs to find a way to work with PvP and PvE players. Yes there could be more PvP events but putting them GALAXY WIDE kills the gameplay within an hour (maybe 2). Folks on my server were saying it was "unrestricted" PvP but they were not hitting "allied" alliances. Basically they were putting their own "restrictions" while tossing a server accepted RoE. They even stated that the RoE says Scopely events trump the RoE when the RoE doesn't state that (again the larger player/spenders putting their own "restrictions" in place). Another example was saying "token" space was a no PvP area.
Setting up a system for PvP (preferably one barely used for events) would make sense. Your PvP folks can enjoy the game and the PvE folks can as well.
I'm surprised Scopely didn't learn this lesson from when they did the PvP in Swarm space during Incursions. Hopefully the fam stuff goes well @RevDeuce.
It's common on my server to hold vigils and memorials in Rigel, no bases or nodes, similar systems mainly used by junior player for missions may work.
Hi Rev.
"Everyone in one/two systems" means "how many times have I to be hitted to complete the PvP event?".
"Everyone in one system (level based)" means "I hope I won't have to ask for help in galaxy chat to complete the PvP event".
"Everyone everywhere" means "If you don't want to be hitted you can go to play with your kids or pets".
On play store, game description says "work with and against thousands players in real time". I know this game can't be a PvP game anymore but for two days it can be the shadow of a PvP game.
So, I'm happy for having scored 921 million points in "Unified Unimatrix - SLB" event.
Best regards.
This PvP event is causing carnage, it's hilarious!!
I do think that we need more PVP events in the game and creative ways to do PVP. This may have missed the mark, but on my server there are a few of us who enjoy PVP and very few of us 'bigs' so the challenge with the system events is we need to trade hits with much smaller players and coordinate these hits.
Have something to indicate which systems are Red Flag, have its font in a different or alternating color to show there's more than a raid happening?
We only had one alliance on our server hitting empty miners. Myself I only hit warships. Live or die, I hit every floating warship I could attack. And then on day 2 it was very hard to find any warship to hit. Hitting miners gives about 1 million points for that LB. But a warship, I was getting up to 19 million points for one attack.
You are on point Rev. I will take it a step further, why am I competing against monsters in events and PVP.......Scale the game
The borg mission part 9 where players have to mine 3mill in tritanium is inane
I don't often OPC hunt as mining while at work or over night gets me everything I need and takes less in game time than OPC hunting. That said I agree with everything you said in the video. I'll be bubbled with all my ships in except for a few minutes to rush through events when I get home tonight. And spend a lot of my day explaining the PvP event to alliance members who don't play all day.
I can tolerate and engage in them like incursions if they are one day so i can do dailies on the front end and back end of the event, but a multi-day pvp system wide is too much. I like the single system pvp the most.
I would like to thank Scopely for running this PvP event and allowing me to bubble up for 48hrs and have break from the game, was very much needed 😊 Keep up the good work of ruining the game for your player base Scopely (sarcastic tone)😬
Right on the money Deuce. As soon as I saw it was PVP everywhere, I recall every miner I have and now I'm just waiting for it to be over. PVP everywhere makes it hard to get anything done when you're constantly being hunted by the top alliances when your mid-level. It also makes it less fun.
I agree that PvP events should be the same model as previous iterations. Set systems for level brackets.
I agree that PVP events should be kept to a few systems instead of open galaxy. Those who want to participate in the PVP events will participate and those who don't will just avoid those systems. That is impossible to do for the next two days, if you have a ship out right now, it is being targeted, including those miners mining 3 MILLION Tritanium.
I'm happy with pvp in specific systems, I k ow a lot of new players can find it a but daunting and these events can be quite helpful in allowing them to learn in a more controlled way.
I agree, this event is trash. The worst part is it's 48 hrs. My server has basically gone nuts, any ship anywhere is just being destroyed. It's incursion without the extra sever. In a game that is basically 50% mining, it's hard to do those things during an event like this. I'm not a big PvP player, but I usually try to get the SMS events done. I actually had some fun last month with the Vidar PvP events that they ran. But this one makes me want to just check out for the 2 days.
It should have been limited to actual warships and bases only, make miners exempt from scoring apart from receiving points for being attacked but no points for attacking miners. Open ended is going to cause some fun discussions for the admirals of most alliances as well.
Thing about open PVP events is that, on servers with RoE, there's a large component of uncertainty. You spend the better part of the year avoiding PvP because RoE discourages it, then you get a PvP event hidden couple layers down that not everyone is aware of and suddenly and without warning the quiet of RoE is shattered and you're left wondering what's p*ssed off this alliance or player. Can we hit miners without loot? Can we hit friendlies or allies? What is the scoring metric? Can we hit stations? Can we hit in territory and do we abandon RoE like we do in incursions? Suddenly this event is no longer fun...it's too much guess work and then it's...pointless PvP. Thanks for the video Rev. Keep it up :)
Thanks Rev. I completely agree, it’s the pointless PvP that causes problems, not the piracy. I’ve been on several new servers over the years, full of brand new player, who actually believe the number of player ships they blow up helps them. As in, their rankings on the stats leaderboards give them a boost. I really believe that a lot of players leave in the 20’s when they figure out that #1 gets exactly the same as #5000. Nothing.
Feels like Scopely’s been tossing spaghetti on the wall for the PvP events the last year or so. Trying to find a one-size-fits-all solution, when even the players who enjoy PvP have different preferences. Id actually like it if Scopely created a PvP day, like Lat Rush, Swarm Sunday or Cerritos Wednesday. Predictable, where PvP and PvE players can plan ahead but maybe like Cerritos Wednesday where it’s an sms, and SLB and a third event where they’re trying out something new.
On my second account, there's a rogue player that we can't do a thing about - we're the #3 alliance, but the rogue is in the 50s... those of us in the 30s can do absolutely nothing about it, Scopely won't do anything about it... The catering to the whales and making the brackets you can hit so crazy that 50s can hit 30s is just unacceptable.
You are correct, I had my 3 ships in grinding space (swarm lvl 32 ) and got them all popped I almost went full send on them but asked first what was the deal. He let me know there was a event on so, I let it go. I refuse to do pointless pvp even if it is a KOS player. I even rarely hit ships we are at war with unless they are opc.
The PVP events that are system specific are good, preferred if they would target them to be more leveled based. But generally on my server the higher level players will parked there lowest level ships in the systems to help out the lower level players to complete the events and others will post messages in GC to work with others if they want to practice PVP skills or test out PVP crews. This free for all is horrible and will drive players like myself out of the game.
Rev LOVE and APPRECIATE these vids! Can you address or run a short vid on teammates or opposing players sitting on zeroed nodes for hour's! Personally I know of friend of friend who will kill my teammates if on zero after 90min.
Yeah I logged in and like 10 people were complaining asking if there was a war going on.
What really sucks with this event is that some of us, like me, are mining for that 3 mil tritanium goal in one of the missions and this is disrupting hundreds of players, if not thousands, from completing it for two days. Personally I'm a PvE player, but I participate in some of the PvP events if I find worth in it. There's no worth in it here
I enjoy the system-based PvP events because it shows that the big, tough "warriors" are full of it. The semi-recent event in Murilia(sp?) I sat there for hours and never got hit.
How many of us remember how early on in this game they introduced a simular PvP Event and the effect it had on the game? Everyone shielded throughout the event and game play stopped. Geez, will they never learn?
Totally forgot about this point but to launch a PvP Event at the same time that they have launched a mission where we have to mine 3 million in tirtanium is more than stupid. Let's not even mention that I thought we had left such missions behind long ago.
My 2 year old got up at 2am (UK time) this morning. So I did the last of my dailies, mostly mining, all my events, and then restarted my mining at the morning reset time.
Cheers wee man, daddy appreciates ya 😂
If you do your dailies, almost no reason to take such little amounts of OC. Got like 50m + raw of everything
Here’s a PVP event idea for Scopely. A Weekly event PVP event, in Territory. Warship only, smack warships and score based on hull damage. It could revitalize territory capture. 😎👍
How do players interact with the game? They use their ships to do things. How does the game get engagement? Players use their ships to do things. How does this event impact that? It stops all of those activities. Yea maybe you’ll participate and get some kills. Suddenly a level 60 appears. The fun stops. The using ships stops. The engagement stops. This is why we have 1-day shields.
Just saw this vid for the first time. The last two pvp events were infact zone based this past week. Seems like they took the feedback and acted on it 😊
Hi REv - great video - I am on S27 - we are basically treating it as 2 days of open PURGE - some players have shielded and closed up until its over others are running around killing anything that is not nailed down 😂 - but to your point about pointless… it is very very disruptive. I have lost any faith that Scopay cares anymore or even tries. Like I have been doing for more than 4 years - I will find my way - the bigger question is why should I even bother anymore? Scopay is chasing the fan base away IMO - boring events, boring ARCs - obvious money grabs - too many bottlenecks etc. etc. Keep being there for us Rev!
Hello fellow S27'r!
I. Absolutely. 100%. Agree. With you Rev 🖖
I agree with you 100%. PVP should be for those who enjoy it. Not for Scopley to force it.
So this is twice this arc where they perhaps set up unwilling participants for PvP events then go back and look at the scoring and call it a success. At the beginning when we all bulldozed through the main storyline missions and got caught on the rather stupid "mine 3M trit" mission and guess what event was 24hrs later catching everyone purposely going opc to finish the mission. Then today we have the weekly Cerritos elite event where it's probe hunting yet the brand new systems don't score so we're all funneled into the old ones tripping over each other while there's a PvP event and tons of people will take advantage of hitting a floating Cerritos. Now I have to throw the disclaimer up here that yes this is a combat game and I personally agree with the "opc is opc" and "shield or share" ideas but its really hard to hear morons brag about their hunting skills in things like GC or on some discord page when all they did was hit soft targets not really designed for said combat then run like a coward as soon as something that can fight shows up.
Absolutely agree. I stopped playing tonight because of that event. One alliance decided to go full tilt On the event, Killing anybody and everybody. Of course, we found everyone of them that we could and was mining and killed them back But it wasn't even an hour into that I was feeling horrible about it. It's just not my style and it made the game not fun. which sux because I'm Pretty much married to this game. 100% I've spent more money on this game then my ex wife!! lol so i'm not going anywhere soon if i have my way, but these pointless pvp events really are crashing my mood on the game. - First timer/S. 90
🤣😂🤣 I’m in PREY on 142, PVP is what we do 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
1000% Right Rev. Everyone is just sitting in shielded bases until end of event. Whale player cleaned up at start of pvp. Should have had a designated area for pvp for level. LLOP 🖖
I agree I can't leave my station, to do anything in game, without getting killed.
No points for survey ships under protected cargo
Another thought: To effectively PVP, you need specific crews - which you won't be using for anything else. So say you want to go out and do the "hit Federation hostiles" part of today's events. Except you can't, because while you're running PMC or SNW Pike crew, the bad guy is coming with his Borg below-decks officers and his Cardy or Strike Team primary crew. So how is that fair from a PVP perspective? Think of crews as loadouts - you're carrying "ordinance" for one kind of target, but the bad guy is armed for something else. It's like taking an F-16 armed for air-to-ground and putting it against an F-16 (or an F-22!) armed for air-to-air. And you can't switch it out on the fly; you have to have that crew onboard going in, or you're toast.
Unless both parties have PVP crews (and roughly similar ships/researches/whatever), it's just encouraging predatory behavior from griefers, whales, and people who just want to start trouble. And for what? A chance to rank on a leaderboard and get a handful of points to redeem for resources. Same thing you get hitting Federation hostiles.
No thanks. They should have just dedicated systems to this, and left the rest of the galaxy alone.
OPC is standard operating procedure, and everyone should be fine with that. PvP in a specific system for points is ok, because it means you can do that if/when you want to, and if/when you don't, you can go do your mining or your Franklin grinding or whatever without worry about BigBux60 zipping by in his Sanctus and smacking your ships for giggles. But today's event is basically a two-day "purge" event mid-month, which means basically shutting down any operation where you can't actively watch for these larger, more predatory players. If you're not into that, it's a two-day forced break from the game. Not what you want to do to keep people engaged.
Oh yeah. Also, good luck if you haven't finished that "mine 3 million tritanium" mission.
I disagree on there needing to be a purpose, but I agree that this was way too disruptive to non-pvp play (specifically, pve and mining). Here are two proposals:
1. Raid rss (players can opt out easily by shielding, also as a bonus, there’s a purpose!)
2. Score only defense platform hull damage (no purpose, but perhaps an easier to score event for Scopely - same option to opt out by shielding and continue non-pvp play). Thanks for the video!
I quite like this PVP event, as it includes every player and not just those who have paid for the Meta PVP crews.
I’m liking this without even seeing it 😅 just the description alone should be enough for scopely to wake up and recognize the issues that open pvp cause!
I gave up on looking for opc ships or warships in open space. I attacked base with ships defending. DOnt think that was what they were thinking with the event but you get the points.
maybe they would do like territory only pvp, or faction area, like one time in rom space, one time fed, one time kdf, one time augment, one time in the exchange purple area,( definately would give some space for pve folks not to MINE in said sectors for few days etc) just like they tried the cardassians area for pvp a bit back then?
Agree 💯. Server is bubbled. Sleeping. Best wishes for you and your family.
This event would be massively better if it was 1 day. I'd like to meet the genius behind making it 2 days.
Here is my suggestion for pvp. Have a "warzone". A single system that each week/day/X time period, opens up and for y time period is open world pvp, but with a specific ship set. 26 faction ships, 32, 34, 42, etc. Only those ships can enter and pvp. It allows for the triangle and pvp crews and whales can still be king of the hill but won't own everyone endlessly.
This will allow players to test it crews, use older ships, have more of a balance, and give players another way to earn stuff.
It can be a king of the hill where you see how long you or your alliance can hold a node, the center of the system, earn points based off damage or kills, etc. You can change it up to endless possibilities. It could be solo, alliance, and even cross server(s). There is so much you can do.
This kind of event, when your core missions have you mining MILLIONS of TRITATIUM is a huge inconvenience. And when you have those "pvp 'because'" players crying loudly about how pvp in only one system is ""bad"", you get these events.
Amen Rev!
I popped a shield after getting hit twice UPC. I'll be back online in a couple days
Opc hunting slows down everyone's growth for the most part.
I will explain.
Unless you are getting a double pull+ in opc in a single hit, you actually spend more time searching systems, flying to and from, scanning, repairing, etc than if you just dropped a miner and went about other stuff. Those who do a lot of hunting tend to lose raw resources over the long haul.
The other side of the coin is you slow down everyone else's growth as well. Instead of players going fastest crews for mining, they focus on protected cargo crews which can drop a ships mining speed in half. The longer it takes to mine the less resources the entire server has access too. The less refineries, the less resources overall for spending.
Most servers have rules against hitting an active miner. Zero are good and some say opc is good. But which is best for the server? No opc hits or no opc hits under a thresshold like 100k opc.
In deep space, it is typically a 5 minute trip, one way, to get to a system. So 10 minutes to dump cargo. At 60k an hour, that is 10k lost every hour or 2. That is 240 to 480k a day. Per node. That is hundreds millions of raw materials lost every day. It is even worse when you use protected cargo crews instead of speed crews. A single node could be down a few million a day.
Now. Factor in lost rss to repairs and additional travel time and the entire server is hurt way way more than you think. And for what? So a few do not have to mine as much. And what else do you do with your ships? Have them sitting in your station? Wasted.
Opc hunting has a purpose and can be beneficial but only for less than 1% of 1% of the population. Most players lose time, resources and mats by opc hunting. It slows down everyone else's growth and it makes mining 4* and 5* harder for everyone else.
If you want faster growth for everyone, your server shouldn't have opc hunting or have it with a high thresshold. And if you hit opc, be sure to take it all so any excess is not lost to space.
I hate pvp without set systems. Lots of players just shield and stay in there bases while the event is on
About 2 years ago, Scopely had a whole server pvp event and it turned into dead server, no one mining, no one hunting for 2 full days, I remember they said sorry about the bad planning. I guess Scopely now have a new team that do not learn from mistakes from history, no lesson learned and put out this totally dumb, 2 days full server wide pvp SLB. omg. this month sucks.
I am one that doesn’t want to participate in ANY PVP and forcing me to participate in PVP is just messed up.
Totally agree with u Rev Deuce.. It has created some chaos in our server, 91. roe violations. basicly it's a rouge event. And we have a basic RoE in place as well. Even as a player, I agree with ur opc way/style. 👍
Great video, as always. I don't quite agree, though. People enjoy protection 99.9% of the time and still complain nonstop. It is pure entitlement. A 48hr royal rumble does well to remind people how good they actually have it. Plus, it allows people to blow off a little steam and get rewards for it.
Love the content as always 😁😁🍺
OPC hunting PVP is beyond crazy because imo attacking ships should ONLY match up to ships that have a similar ship power instead of a overpowered ship vs a less powerful or miner ship.
There are plenty higher players that take an unfair advantage against newer players that will discourage people from playing the game.
Also, PVP events should ONLY be in certain spots in space and not all over the place.
As a strictly f2p player and someone who hates pvp. I misses out on today's events because I couldn't complete them without being attacked. I felt my day off to relax with the game was ruined by all out pvp.
It's been fine for me. In 7th place from a couple base defenses. Haven't had any issues with miners being hit upc
I do pvp for incursions, war, territory, and controlled pvp. I don’t participate in server pvp or purges at all and normally protest buy not spending for a while. So I am off line for 2 days the longer they make it the more I might be an X player.
Glad you made this video I agree pvp event is nonsense I've been hit doing missions not even mining opc is fine but doing dailies or missions and getting hit is ludicrous
OPC is OPC, but forcing me to PVP all the time is taking the game backwards, and could cause wars to break out on ROE servers. Some of my alliance is talking about shielding up and staying away till it is over.
I've been kicked out of alliances for attacking Franklin's before
I'm level 35 and still only have a tier 8 Franklin
Wrong wrong wrong Rev, have to disagree with you wholeheartedly with this one. Having a event which purges the server for a couple days is totally okay. I know the cry babies cry because the game is been around so many years now that most players have become complacent. And just want to turn this game into Farmville. This is still a war game and always will be! These crybaby should have been around when the game first started, they would have really cried because we had server purges once a week, and smash any ship at any time just because on server 16. And the people that didn't join in stayed bubbled, simple as that. If I cried every time we had a mining event I would be crying all the time, so just get over it! And thank you scopely for having more PVP events for us more aggressive players, thumbs up to you scopely!! It's about time LOL PS scopely please continue to have more PVP events for us more aggressive players so we can enjoy the game a lot more also. 🖖🇺🇲
This paradigm will literally kill the game you enjoy.
About p2w, f2p, pvp, pve, etc ...
We should have some balance with something like; "the more players that you have destroyed (outside of; pvp events, zero nodes, etc ROE) the less rewards you get"
I don't know why they haven't figured out that most STFC players want to build ships/bases and not PVP. Incursions would be fixed in a second if they just had a dedicated PVP server that those who want to PVP enter for a 24 hour period and can't leave. Those who don't want to PVP stay at home. Those who participate get the rewards. Those who stay home, just do their normal routine without the rewards. Fixed it for you, Scopely. Took all of two brain cells.
My thoughts are PvP is poorly designed in this game. One of the glaring aspects are the ranges you can hit. It is much too easy for big ships to hit down, especially as you go up in the game. Strike teams did help balance that, until everyone gets strike teams.
In my opinion, the range you should be able to hit down should be decreased. I'd say keep the bigger range to hit up, but I'm sure some would argue that they don't like not being able to preemptively defend against lower ops ships.
I just really think, like you said, there needs to be a reason for PvP, outside OPC hunting and griefing.
Totally agree with the pvp. They need to have a single system for different banding
OP hunting is my bread and butter. YOU DOWN WITH OPC? YEAH YOU KNOW ME.
Rev you need to create an alter ego channel and can start doing skits on Scopely event planning! These decisions are just a parody waiting to happen:) Still have 1.8mil of Trit to mine and a Fed recruit event to finish....Just going to wait until later when servers not as busy...or just say lump it throw on a 3 day shield and come back later and help the lag by not being on:)
Biggest problem with PVP is the power disparity between ops/ship levels. At ops 44, I whip out my 13 mil Valdore, go to the PVP systems and then proceed to get stomped by the ops 46 guy with his 28 mil Korinar. These logarithmic power hikes horribly unbalance PVP.
The hailing frequency pvp event is ridiculous, why is there no level split. We have several players with 52 ships who just spend there time hitting everything smaller than themselves and avoid battles with similar ship as they may lose. Put them in a different system then they can decide if to use there 80m plus ships to battle each other or use smaller if they don’t want to waste the rss
The open PvP is frustrating because when events or missions call for mining, there is just set back after set back because of it. Same goes for daily hostile grinds and hostile grinds for other events. I just strongly dislike open PvP events, cause everyone turns rogue and it is annoyingly frustrating.
Good job you’re not on my server, my alliance just kills all, 😂🤣😂🤣
If you want a ghost town of a server, pretty much run this event.
I agree with(almost) everything you say in this video. Great job.
Glad to hear it!
I agree with you wholeheartedly. We've had these open ended PvP events before. And back then we (the players) told them to stop with these and change it to only certain systems and/or ships. The difference before - those events was only 1 day long. Why do they think it would be better for a 2 day event, when they have lots of other events also running that REQUIRES PvE. I'm not going to be able to do my daily tasks. So that puts my progression back by at least 1 day. I know that does not sound like much. But they want me to buy this pack and buy that pack but put out crappy PvP events. That just makes me put up a shield for 2days and cut my losses. My losses will also be Scopely losses. Because I will be much less inclined to buy any packs.
I find this strangely funny because it's so hypocritical. You said it right here in your video: "Don't force PVE people to have to be PVP people."
But that's exactly what the entire Infinite Incursions exists to do!! And you rave about that being such a great addition to the game!
It makes the PVE players frustrated and have to stop playing for a few days at a time.