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For those of us at 41 with only 3* Epic ships maxed the grind is insane. 1 or 2 Xindi scrap per kill in the 34 systems cause trying to kill the level 40 hostiles is virtually impossible. This is just another Wave Defense that Scopely is focussing on pleasing it's high level players. Far too many grinds building up in this game. Just another part of the game I will have to put off.
I have a max Augur around 9.6m power and I can kill 1 level 40 Xindi per hull. Still way faster than killing 34/35 hostiles though. I get around 90 scraps per 40 killed plus a chance at a chest with another 100. I'm still only doing single pulls right now though. I use Ent-E Picard/Ent-E Data/Nero with Tom Paris below decks to max mitigation. Also have Tendi for more health and then the rest of the slots stacking defense for Tom Paris. Make sure you are not using anyone to boost your crit rate or you will fail.
I did that 2 day event spent somewhere between 4-5 billion and got 6k in rewards not really sure how this new arc is economically feasible hopefully Doply will listen to you Rev
At 60k a pull I either don't have the time to grind it efficiently or I don't have the Trit to grind it quickly....... personally I'm just skipping the loop.
hi. thanks as always for the content. my level Ex borg store only has 2 chests Stella and botany bay, what level are you at as you have way more chests... thanks as always
I'm a 44, out there with a 22 mil ktinga. I DID NOT get enough uc credits from the missions to unlock t3 of the delay. How the hell do I get uc credits? Best I can see is by killing 34s, which would take 3000 kills to do 1 scrap trade. That's stupid as shit
I’m not gonna mess with it anymore as there’s a bunch of waste of time you only get one Cyndi scrap maybe three at the most it’s gonna take me five years to get it finished when you need 3500.
So I’ve gotten myself into a situation where I maybe over pushed to 53 and still do not have the ships for my level. I utilize the Voyager at T10 for my daily grinds. I need 60k for 1 pull of the Xindi and that will take a very long time. Hoping that when I eventually get the Corvus, it might help punching up.
Don't hope too much. With the Corvus (T2) Pike Moreau Ent-E Data (that's the only way I have to generate the damage needed) I can barely kill 1 51 xindi hostile interceptor. Pay out is ~2k with The Doctor below deck and the xindi escalation favour at 2. Maxed Particle Beam.
The grinding in this game is OUT OF CONTROL! We should be able to kill 1 or 2 hostiles and have the resources we need across alien ships for all turn-in example EXCHANGE, BORG PROBES, The SECTION 31 (great feature, payout SUX eggs) and grind for ship parts 4* 5* This is too much time to be spending on 1 game.
I double pulled mine last night and got credits and uncommon credits. No rare or epic ones were given, so the information that we get at least one is not correct in my experience.
Same with me, you are not guaranteed to get rares and/or epics the data they have is wrong or Scopley changed things on them. I would think it is the second one.
😢As I've just got to ops 38 and unlocked the Exborg none if this is available to me right? As I'm going to be camping at 39 I've no need to bust my balls attempting Xindi space or am I missing something?
I’m in a similar boat as you (camping 39 to get research where it needs to be) and I’m hoping the rumors/assumptions of a new ship to ease the grind in upcoming months to make this better by the time players like us even get there. We shall see
They nerfed the pulls - but they also nerfed the drops on the miners - 41 miner was yielding me 1200 now 660. I also think they did something with the cube. Yesterday I could hit a 32 swarm and charge mine. Today 0.9 for 1 swarm....
Ok so, 1st off nice vid as always. Secondly, I'm at lvl 39 and still haven't been told I needed to be at lvl 40 to even be able to start accessing this new feature... communication? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? Thirdly, this is complete BS for the simple fact they're basically forcing anyone under 40 to go to 40... so why? Not cool Dopely! NOT kewl!
I activated the Borg solo favor. I didn’t grind for it. The tokens were gained through an event. I do Borg solos nightly and it seemed worth. The rest of them don’t seem that interesting. 🤷♂️
You mention "double pull" for xindi scraps... I've watched your crew videos and DJz twitch stream, tried nearly every level hostile i can reach with every crew that even has an ounce of logic. Ops 54 with T4 Northcutt but have found best scrap yields using Pilum (4th strongest ship) and have BARELY been able to afford single pulls. Obviously that was not DJz experience on his stream... have you been able to grind enough for a double pull yet?
I have only turned in 1 single refine. I am not interested in another grind. I will interact with it when forced to for a event. Once i see 5 min grind ill think about doing it daily.
I like the new stuff in the export faction store. Tried the recommended crews on the lvl 40 xindi with max beam still died 😭 am getting more scrap, but still a looooooong grind 😴
Some nice stuff in there, but not worth the massive repair bills and time investment. Todays box cost reduction helps, but not nearly enough to bother with this unless you eiter are a spender or have no job and can do raiding all day
I's about done with Scopely. We say we need a better game life. They say We hear you, we'll work on it. Then, they give you a hard grind for pathetic rewards. I'm a free to play, I understand I'm not their focus. But it's to the point the free to play can't get ahead decently. Then you get on a server what is full of jerks. Scopely fix the parking in augment space. Yay. about time, then you have a few 50 plus and a 6- plus player decide your shouldn't have that ability so they clear you from augment space. I'm just done. It's a game. It should be fun. It's no longer fun.
Where i understand that we love this game , we are so sick of great stuff that takes forever on our daily grinds to reach the good stuff in them this is so sad they keep laying down the pains on us over and over without making things faster on our daily grinds, everything good at the end of this loop is nice but 99% of us allready dont have the time to do it, i mean for the average player it will take years to get to the good stuff, and the grinds in game on everything is killing our patience,no mobile game should do this to there customers. We love the game but hate our time it takes from us to have anything worth having.
Xindi grind is not worth the effort. I think the ship abilities are bogus and intentionally and not accidently made so you got to buy another weak ass ship like the Franklin. I'm betting territory might have something to help get BP's lol😂 I bet you can buy it first. I'm just saying that seems to be the way of things.
Not a fan of this loop or research expansion. It only has a few researches that are worth it and you have a bunch of stuff that is fillier to make it look like they put a lot of stuff in here. I totally disagree with the trade-down mechanic. The pull rate and amount for the rare and epic are so low that wasting them to get UC is a stupid move. When you get to the end of the tree you will have so many UC you will not be able to use them (like all the other trees). So far this month is not going in the right direction and if the NX-01 Enterprise comes out next month to make the grind better/easier I think a lot of people will stop playing. Especially if the NX-01 is not free to play from day one.
This is total stupid scopely is just forcing us to move instead of us enjoying the game. At this rate instead of having new players join us we will have a mass exit. The people that are going to stay will be the wallet warrior's. Im a 39 and i cant see any of this. Which is so stupid.. leave it to scopely this arc is absolutely stupid and not needed.
Nothing says jist another money grab and not for the players is a hostile that takes away your critical and u get owned. But wait there's more. For the low low price of 100usd. U can get a prime to help u out.
The favours are nice but the grind time and cost is so high it's not fun to do. This is supposed to be a fun game but every new arc just feels like a boring chore.
Hate how scopely use all the talk over crewing and discussions about this as a good thing. This should be ignored until they make it achievable or the exonomy of it better a bit like the new galaxy research
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Impossible grind, ridiculous payout, stupid reward. Thanks Scopely.
For those of us at 41 with only 3* Epic ships maxed the grind is insane. 1 or 2 Xindi scrap per kill in the 34 systems cause trying to kill the level 40 hostiles is virtually impossible. This is just another Wave Defense that Scopely is focussing on pleasing it's high level players. Far too many grinds building up in this game. Just another part of the game I will have to put off.
I have a max Augur around 9.6m power and I can kill 1 level 40 Xindi per hull. Still way faster than killing 34/35 hostiles though. I get around 90 scraps per 40 killed plus a chance at a chest with another 100. I'm still only doing single pulls right now though. I use Ent-E Picard/Ent-E Data/Nero with Tom Paris below decks to max mitigation. Also have Tendi for more health and then the rest of the slots stacking defense for Tom Paris. Make sure you are not using anyone to boost your crit rate or you will fail.
how is your tech tree
What am I missing then? It's definitely not a 5-10 minute loop for me, more like 1-2 hours if I want a single pull
I did that 2 day event spent somewhere between 4-5 billion and got 6k in rewards not really sure how this new arc is economically feasible hopefully Doply will listen to you Rev
How do you get to the Particle Beam Favor? It's grayed out and unable to click it?
At 60k a pull I either don't have the time to grind it efficiently or I don't have the Trit to grind it quickly....... personally I'm just skipping the loop.
hi. thanks as always for the content. my level Ex borg store only has 2 chests Stella and botany bay, what level are you at as you have way more chests... thanks as always
I'm a 44, out there with a 22 mil ktinga. I DID NOT get enough uc credits from the missions to unlock t3 of the delay. How the hell do I get uc credits? Best I can see is by killing 34s, which would take 3000 kills to do 1 scrap trade. That's stupid as shit
It looks nice. Pity I'm stuck in OPS 39 and ascension is nowhere to be heard of :(
this is horse manure. only have now 973 scraps. 3 days now rev. so thank u for another loop I cannot do like waves.
Epic and rare borg credits are only a chance for the scrap turn in. You're not getting at least one of each.
Everybody that complains about the research hasn't got to the point where it's a 185 days to complete.😂😂😂😂
185 days is easy money. try over 400 days for one 😂
@@LotharsAreola no thanks 🤣🤣🤣
Nice story but takes me 20 hulls to get one pull 60,000 scraps for one pull and I average 3000 per hull
I’m not gonna mess with it anymore as there’s a bunch of waste of time you only get one Cyndi scrap maybe three at the most it’s gonna take me five years to get it finished when you need 3500.
I hope Scopely adds more grinding on top of this. I love grinding so much that my teeth no longer exist.
It looks like they have lowered the amount needed for Xindi scrap turn in now.
Ive not got the Xindi scrap exchange box? Not sure how one gets it but life is too short to worry about it...
multi hour grind a day for a new 39 that went to 42. Absolute BS
So I’ve gotten myself into a situation where I maybe over pushed to 53 and still do not have the ships for my level. I utilize the Voyager at T10 for my daily grinds. I need 60k for 1 pull of the Xindi and that will take a very long time. Hoping that when I eventually get the Corvus, it might help punching up.
Don't hope too much. With the Corvus (T2) Pike Moreau Ent-E Data (that's the only way I have to generate the damage needed) I can barely kill 1 51 xindi hostile interceptor. Pay out is ~2k with The Doctor below deck and the xindi escalation favour at 2. Maxed Particle Beam.
The grinding in this game is OUT OF CONTROL! We should be able to kill 1 or 2 hostiles and have the resources we need across alien ships for all turn-in example EXCHANGE, BORG PROBES, The SECTION 31 (great feature, payout SUX eggs) and grind for ship parts 4* 5* This is too much time to be spending on 1 game.
I can't even kill one 40 with even one of my ships
You want me to grind this.... DAILY?!
BWHAHAHAA
**Inhales **
BWHAHAHAA
(PS... By "you" I mean Scopely)
thank you
I double pulled mine last night and got credits and uncommon credits. No rare or epic ones were given, so the information that we get at least one is not correct in my experience.
Same with me, you are not guaranteed to get rares and/or epics the data they have is wrong or Scopley changed things on them. I would think it is the second one.
😢As I've just got to ops 38 and unlocked the Exborg none if this is available to me right? As I'm going to be camping at 39 I've no need to bust my balls attempting Xindi space or am I missing something?
I’m in a similar boat as you (camping 39 to get research where it needs to be) and I’m hoping the rumors/assumptions of a new ship to ease the grind in upcoming months to make this better by the time players like us even get there. We shall see
They nerfed the pulls - but they also nerfed the drops on the miners - 41 miner was yielding me 1200 now 660. I also think they did something with the cube. Yesterday I could hit a 32 swarm and charge mine. Today 0.9 for 1 swarm....
How does one even UNLOCK the favors to begin with???
I. Want. Them. All. Noooooow. Lol. As always. Well, it'll be nice in a few years when I DO have them all!
Ty Rev.
Pass
Ok so, 1st off nice vid as always. Secondly, I'm at lvl 39 and still haven't been told I needed to be at lvl 40 to even be able to start accessing this new feature... communication? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? Thirdly, this is complete BS for the simple fact they're basically forcing anyone under 40 to go to 40... so why? Not cool Dopely! NOT kewl!
I activated the Borg solo favor. I didn’t grind for it. The tokens were gained through an event. I do Borg solos nightly and it seemed worth. The rest of them don’t seem that interesting. 🤷♂️
You mention "double pull" for xindi scraps... I've watched your crew videos and DJz twitch stream, tried nearly every level hostile i can reach with every crew that even has an ounce of logic. Ops 54 with T4 Northcutt but have found best scrap yields using Pilum (4th strongest ship) and have BARELY been able to afford single pulls. Obviously that was not DJz experience on his stream... have you been able to grind enough for a double pull yet?
Tough to see the benefit in efficiency favors which can only be acquired by doing a very long and tedious loop every single day.
I am stuck and can’t tear up because I got or need three ships. There’s no way I can get and I’m not paying $300 to get one ship.
Garbage Loop , Garbage Scopley
I have only turned in 1 single refine. I am not interested in another grind. I will interact with it when forced to for a event. Once i see 5 min grind ill think about doing it daily.
CAN WE HAVE A SIMPLE STEP BY STEP PLEASE
Smells like a new Prime coming out or multiple armadas
I like the new stuff in the export faction store. Tried the recommended crews on the lvl 40 xindi with max beam still died 😭 am getting more scrap, but still a looooooong grind 😴
Can’t start till server unlocks. Hopefully 102 will unlock soon.
@@user-wt1tc4wo2e if it goes by active users then we need a merge. Haven’t gotten new players in a couple months
Some nice stuff in there, but not worth the massive repair bills and time investment. Todays box cost reduction helps, but not nearly enough to bother with this unless you eiter are a spender or have no job and can do raiding all day
It will be nice in the long term to convert epics, rares, and uncommons down to commons to use in the ex-borg research tree.
Not worth the grid!
-This loop is bad, and Scopely should feel bad.
I's about done with Scopely. We say we need a better game life. They say We hear you, we'll work on it. Then, they give you a hard grind for pathetic rewards. I'm a free to play, I understand I'm not their focus. But it's to the point the free to play can't get ahead decently. Then you get on a server what is full of jerks. Scopely fix the parking in augment space. Yay. about time, then you have a few 50 plus and a 6- plus player decide your shouldn't have that ability so they clear you from augment space. I'm just done. It's a game. It should be fun. It's no longer fun.
and some of those people clearing augment space and the jerks are likely scopely people...cause they love saying its a war game and all that nonsense.
Boo, Voyager crew locked behind an Ops40 loop!
I am a 44 with my monivine being 12 million
60k for 1 chest pull??? c'mon smh
Where i understand that we love this game , we are so sick of great stuff that takes forever on our daily grinds to reach the good stuff in them this is so sad they keep laying down the pains on us over and over without making things faster on our daily grinds, everything good at the end of this loop is nice but 99% of us allready dont have the time to do it, i mean for the average player it will take years to get to the good stuff, and the grinds in game on everything is killing our patience,no mobile game should do this to there customers. We love the game but hate our time it takes from us to have anything worth having.
This Xindi grind sucks
Really hard to even notice the “favors” when completing the daily grind is impossible for a lot of us.
not interested in another grind.
You sound like ECO, we need more data.
Xindi grind is not worth the effort. I think the ship abilities are bogus and intentionally and not accidently made so you got to buy another weak ass ship like the Franklin. I'm betting territory might have something to help get BP's lol😂 I bet you can buy it first. I'm just saying that seems to be the way of things.
so u can by those packs to help ya out.
Not a fan of this loop or research expansion. It only has a few researches that are worth it and you have a bunch of stuff that is fillier to make it look like they put a lot of stuff in here.
I totally disagree with the trade-down mechanic. The pull rate and amount for the rare and epic are so low that wasting them to get UC is a stupid move. When you get to the end of the tree you will have so many UC you will not be able to use them (like all the other trees).
So far this month is not going in the right direction and if the NX-01 Enterprise comes out next month to make the grind better/easier I think a lot of people will stop playing. Especially if the NX-01 is not free to play from day one.
This is total stupid scopely is just forcing us to move instead of us enjoying the game. At this rate instead of having new players join us we will have a mass exit. The people that are going to stay will be the wallet warrior's. Im a 39 and i cant see any of this. Which is so stupid.. leave it to scopely this arc is absolutely stupid and not needed.
Nothing says jist another money grab and not for the players is a hostile that takes away your critical and u get owned. But wait there's more. For the low low price of 100usd. U can get a prime to help u out.
The favours are nice but the grind time and cost is so high it's not fun to do.
This is supposed to be a fun game but every new arc just feels like a boring chore.
Hate how scopely use all the talk over crewing and discussions about this as a good thing. This should be ignored until they make it achievable or the exonomy of it better a bit like the new galaxy research
Another crap shoot grind. Scopely needs to do better to lessen the grinds so they're not so impossible and failure content
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