Capital System Grinding in Star Trek Fleet Command | Value of Sol, Romulus, & Kronos to 30s/40s
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- While not @everyone can grind in Sol, Romulus, or Kronos, more people can than they realize. Whether you're level 34 trying to score some early blueprints for the future or rep grinding without the deeps pace travel times and warp ranges in the upper 40s, there are multiple benefits to Star Trek Fleet Command players grinding in capital systems. Let's discuss!
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As an ops 46 player, I recently finished my epic grind in Kronos, finally acquiring all 350 bp's for a Korinar. That grind took me about 3 months of grinding. This grind also put me at Leader standings with Feds and Guardian with Romulans. Not to mention all of the other drops (officer exp, speed ups and Ktinga & Borcha bps). Point is you can grind out the ops 46 rares, just takes time and a lot of effort.
Thank you for the vid!
As a level 40 player, I’m always hesitant in attacking higher level hostiles. Your video gave me better insight in not having to travel 10 minutes into deep space to get rep, grinding and loot.
Thanks again!
With the new 4* mining systems in Delta Quadrant, it is not as terrible for people to go up in rep before deep space now. If you can get someone clearing the heavies for you and just focus on the regulars with pmc then you are golden.
This is why I only hit heavies now 😂 i remember what it was like to be struggling with an auger for heavies and a d4 for regular
As always great Vid Brother. Thanks for being there for all of us.
Cheers Rev, by far the best content creator across all games
I used Sol to grind, when I was that range, it was excellent! Sadly Sol has been broken on S26 for about 9 months.... scopely doesn't seem to care
Thanks to Scopely after the last update two days ago it's hard to find regulars in capital systems unless someone hits heavies.
I think that there's a couple of math issues that you left out. I hit 65 Heavy/capital traders in Kronos, and got 2 chests (guess what.....no BPs) At that rate, I'd need to hit 3250 to get 100 chests. Given the typical Scopley drop rate if I was to use this method to grind BPs it would probably take all year, or a couple of years to get enough BPs to build a ship.
I'm lv 41, I grind the normal traders in these systems. Best grindy systems. On my server the regulars spawn on their own. usually 3-6 will spawn on their own
I remember taking down a normal trader in Kronos with a maxed Sallie at player ops level 29 ... that was fun. :) Took me four attempts, but I didn't die even though "losing" the battle (round limit).
Maxed B'rel with mid level PMC can take out the regular transports (not heavy) which can be an amazing points scorer for hostile events.
Sometimes it cant get the kill in 100 rounds of combat, so you get to attack them again on low hull/shield for an extra victory.
It should be noted that if you don’t have a t4 or t5 khan, a t5 Tlaan or a burn officer (augurs only) makes a suitable pairing with Bev/Mudd. Also, the importance of the Lead Expedition ATA, rep (60%) and ops (-2) levels required to start buying the next ship bps cannot be stressed enough. Thanks for the video, Rev!
Add that video to the end credits!
Your PMC K'Tinga is missing a below deck officer.
Sol and Kronos spawn regulars for every regular killed, assuming you don have stuck hostiles. You don't need to clear heavies. If you're having spawning issues, go to Galaxy view and then back to System view.
As always good advice about punching up. But in this instance, you gave Scopely a HUGE pass, on the fact that those systems are bugged on regular vs. Heavy transport rates. The rates of regulars were much higher that they are today due to stuck hostiles with a similar situation to the mantis hostiles. It just doesn’t get as much attention because it’s not tied to a pay-for feature/ship unfortunately. Lower levels use to have a lot of fun grinding those regular capital ships, due to Scopely’s incompetence, and everyone’s acceptance of their very very low quality now, low quality seems to be just accepted as the norm. Which is a very sad state of affairs. I’m saying that as a lover of all things Star Trek…and usually a promoter of the game.
I ground out the Valdore, Ktinga, Bchor and Vorta Vor almost entirely from Cap system normal transport grinding for my dailies every day, mainly with an Ent and the the Jelly when I got it. Only thing I’ve noticed that’s weird is that Sol seems to spawn sooooo many less normal traders.
Peace - Just OPS to 35 from the mighty server 701, all my grinding is in capital systems for the BP drops. About 25 heavies per hull on my ENT
Interesting information.
As a level 29 player, I am always pushing the envelope on how high I can go. I am usually surprised by just how high I can punch. 😊😅
Always enjoy your vids. Thank you for the awesome information.
Glad you enjoy it Eric!
Hi rev just a note I love this so much and are a guiding light for me thank you for all you do
Well, sure enough - you're right Rev. Used the Mudd/Bev/Khan line up, hit a heavy with my T4 Augur (I'm L39), and killed it. Could only kill 1 before dying on the 2nd. But maybe once Im T5 I can get 2.
I was opening my capital loot boxes around 20-25 at a time. I was also averaging about a dozen Kelvin prints every couple hundred boxes.
Thanks so much for this one rev, been hitting my head against a wall on these ones, i almost guessed the right crew for heavies the other day but had gorkon instead of mudd, it finished my para bellum event but yeah now i can kill a couple in augur while enterprise hits the others:)
As an ops 34 player, shhhhh....don't tell others the secret. There's already enough competition from the high level players in the capital systems. Lol.
Hardly a secret and high lvl players are in deep space grinding, or should be.
@@Tfloyd69 im only 33 but high lvls dont have to go to deep space any more the newer galaxys next to stella hood give bonuses for higher lvl players im in Franklin 60 tho
Heck yea i give the secret out too lol working on the month brog mission an cant figure out forth one yet
i am 35 and i can take these down with my augur pretty reliably with a sub optimal crew, but my augur is maxed due to latinum so that helps.
I built a fleet of G4 ships out of capital system grinding, and I don't use G4 ships for the grind because they're just too expensive to operate. I recommend people to move your station to nearby system and just use your good old G3 epics to grind. I use D4 for the heavies (just the classic PMT with below deck officers like Hugh and Mariner, I get about 10 kills per hull) and Ent with PMc for the reg transports.
ngl, i used that punch up crew with a tier 3 defiant and got smacked..
Love and appreciate your tips and advice! ❤
I am lev 39 player, my maxout Bortas failed with the recomanded crew to destroy even a single heavy Transporter in Klingon capital, even buffed by Ceritos.
Limited success here T4 Auger with punch up crew took the heavy to roughly half health. The regular transports with PMC are 3 but are over 100 rounds so 6 attacks.
For the T4 Augur, might need an exo, but someone else with at T4 augur beat the heavy in 1 fight.
@@RevDeuce any thought on berating Scopely about the bugged field training missions? Pretty sad for anyone new coming to the game to immediately get blasted with a rather impactful bug.
Hi Rev, going to give this a try. Never tried as a level 36. Love the videos as ever.
Thanks Richard! let me know how it goes
Got wiped. Lol
Which crew did you use, on which ship?
Enterprise, 4 million power. I tried a few crews and ended up with PMC and it worked a treat. Never thought I could kill a 24 m transport with little damage. Did have to watch your vid a few times. These videos are awesome and love your responses to questions. You have advised me many times. Going to try a heavy now!!!
When I kill a transport the log says I was defeated and no rewards given. Strange. Kills were in Kronos.
Great video, thanks Rev
It would be awesome of them to up the drop rate a little. Nothing drastic, just a little better.
I'm going to give this a go. I was surprised recently at suddenly being able to take down 49 heavies in Kronos for an event. I used to have to suicide run 4 or 5 times to complete that damage event. The K'T8nga seems to have made the difference. Korinar blue prints are so expensive even a few would help.
Try 5/bev/snw Ortega in cap seat with nero & tal on heavies.
Living in Wolf and grinding Sol got me 1 bil at ops 35 plus tons of bps.
Plus there was the secret for grinding dailies that we dont need anymore.
condolences, thats one way to wreck yourself
@DerPizzadieb not really I jumped to 39 when I got it done, there is only 1 daily I can't complete and it's not a big deal
Yet another stonking video :-) Keep em coming mate 🙂
Thanks, will do!
Here's the crews to use: under 42 use blue bev as capt with meth Mudd and either khan or talaan or Nero or GG as capt, snw hemmer and tal. If 42 and above pmt works as well as snw officers. Plus per hit they offer the highest rep gain till 185 warp space
As for comparable ds systems to capital systems, you have to wait till warp 185 (50) systems. And even then loot chest drops are equal.
Correct! I probably should have been specific in that and showed people.
Yep, but also the 50 explorers in those systems are actually easier than the heavies.
Hmmm, might be time to try them out again....
extra benifit of the capitol systems - you can grind the kills to get your training missions done up to 49's ,and is definitly the perfect systems to do the high level daily kills - enti tier 4 can already grind the normal ones quite nicely with pmc crew
I use my maxed Augur with Cpt 5of11 + Georgiou (Rank 4) + Tyler (maxed)
With my strongest Attack Officers
Heavies & normal captial Freighters die in 11 rounds
Because of hull research i am able to 10 before i have to repair
I’m ops 42, t5 k’t’inga pmt is my most reliable crew for heavies. Easily kill 10-12 before repair
yup! Great run!
I just hit 2nd Triple faction lock 2 days ago Rev! 1 billion each!
Before I got my Valdore or K'T'inga I was hitting heavies with my maxed Enterprise for Para Bellum.
Got excited for the video cuz I want to see how u can make my experience with Romulus and qonos grinding better if possible never good as sol grinding ty wolf system!
Yes you grinding with pilum and ktinga etc is great but you need a tonne of trit.
Probably more efficient using 2 g3s to clear heavies, cost repairs significantly less
I'm sitting on about 30 Billion right now
I knew but I wanted to comment anyway 😄 Keep up the great content, fellow Beard Boy!
I know so much lol, but I did knot know, if u have the bps but not the rep, you can build it! There! Haha
Crew for heavy Traders is Bev, Fat Mudd, and Tlaan. I use T5 Ent or T5 Aug.
The problem with sol is they don't drop jelly bps but if you go to Romulus or Kronos they drop the 4* bps sol needs to be modified to drop those bps
No system drops ISS Jelly BPs
@Rev Deuce which is honestly stupid I have half of the bps for plum and the klingon ship they need tonadd it
Another good crew I have been using is PMT, can be useful for some lower lvls. I started using it on my ENT a while back for some events to speed things up now I use it on my kelvin. I will be trying some of your suggestions though. I want to be able to take out more with less damage.
what is your ENT power?
@@chrissmith8931 9 mil
@chriscarey8336 thanks for the info mate
Thank Rev. Great info
Your awesome dude big fan
You rock!
My g3 can do it for pike moreau chen lights i dont use it much for bev young mud khan heavys with the valdore t5 15mill+ for heavys. I do one each atm.
Ty for the video and llap rev deuce!
9:30 thats one stronk bortas lol
Definitely can't do it with 3 ships now. I have a valdore, augur and jellyfish and jellyfish blows up every time.
Been doing this for long time. Got my valdore and Kelvin without spending a penny.
I’m attempting to use these crews to grind in Sol, and they aren’t working. I’m lvl38 but can’t make a scratch on the hostiles
I can take on the transports (not the heavy), with my t3 enterprise , but it takes 262 rounds and 3 battles
I can take down one heavy with my Enterprise, I haven't tried with my D4 or my auger yet, going to try some of these crews so I can start farming bps
Why SNW Uhura on the Pilum? I use the same setup on a Kelvin with T'lann instead. Much Better results by far.
What's the Romulan equivalent of Ty'Gokor? Sometimes getting regular transports sucks when there is no one bigger to kill the heavy ones consistently to force them to spawn...
There is not one. Ty'Gokor is unique.
Rev, need tour help. Just got back from game after a 3 year break. Currently ops 42, with a t9 enterprise at 7.6 mil power, t9 d4 at 7.3 mil power and a tallios at 6.2 mil power. My strongest ship is only able to kill two heavy s per hull. My next strongest ship cannot kill the regular transports in Krono‘s and are immediately destroyed. I don’t have any of the new officers from the next generation, deep space nine, strange new worlds, or the original series. I do have all of the officers back from what was available in summer of 2020 and that’s it. What can I do to enable myself to go to a capital system and grind successfully? Any help would be greatly appreciated,
I recently ground out a complete set of Kelvin bp’s. 100% from loot drops almost all from Sol.
This is the way I got my Valdore when I was trying to lock Klingon, and Sol is broken on serve 26 we don’t get Transport
I just wanna get an augur without having to grind romulan rep. Because by the time im getting those 3 star epics I will only have my romulan rep at neutral or slightly lower thanks to faction locking (im going fed and Klingon duel btw). And im more of an interceptor fan than anything else, but I can definitely see the value of having a lumbering behemoth for territory battles. If someone could comment me a list on what romulan systems to commit genocide in to get augur Blueprints I would really appreciate it!
The big problem for a lot of players in the 30s is the operation costs of doing this grind, especially for the punch up crew. There needs to be someone to grind heavies for you if you want to do it at scale. Keep in mind that the punchip example is a whale's bortas with huge stats and buffs (3.7M for a 28 is absolutely nuts), most players need an epic ship to do a heavy at minimum. Good that you mention the ecplise 45s, those also only work if you have a whale to carry you...
Well was wondering where to park my base for kronos and romulus captial grinding!?
On 46 you must use SNW Pike + Hemer + smb, collect ful cargo ann go repair)
The reg and the heavy seem to have the same hull and Sheilds as the heavy what is the difference
This was very helpful
For Server 133 Sol and Kronos spawn Regulars on kill, Romulus is a bit trickier. I do 25 Regular traders in Kronos for my dailies (double grinding Fed and Rom) and slowly getting my K't'inga/Korinar.
Why would you want another player to take on the heavy "for you"? What do you get out of that?
Sure its possible.
But as you said, you can only kill 3-4 heavies before dying.
That's terribly innefficient and would take a long time with travel times to do.
What a drain on rss as well.
I spent 2 or 3 turns in the area and hardly got any drops of anything at all. Waste of time
@Rev Deuce
Max Augur @ 7.5m power, Romulus, SNW crew and can’t kill a heavy OR a regular! What on earth…😮
Would it be just as efficient to grind BPs from hostiles in the Yarega system (Fed)? Does anybody know the comparative drop rates for BPs?
nothing beats capital system if you're going after G4 bps, and rares don't drop until you hit 50+ hostiles in deep space. upper 40 systems like Yarega will drop more G3 rares than anything else
Awesome video! - Some folks (S27) have been wondering... Pilum vs Talios - both can get up to 50m+ but what's the compare and contrast? which ship is best suited to certain situations?
Pilum is better in every meaningful way. Talios can technically get higher in the 50s. But you'd never replace a pilum with a talios.
@@RevDeuce I feel vindicated trying to max a Pilum then XD
Super helpful!!
Im Ops35 with a T6 D4 using Hugh on LD and I’m killing these heavy traders. I’ll have prints WAAAAY before I’ll be able to use them.
ok so you need a t6 ship to do this
@@oleonard7319 And not a naked one either...learned about that the hard way. Hugh is a HUGE help as well.
Doesn't work for me, I'm lvl 43 with a maxed Ent with your Pic (C) Bev and Cath crew and couldn't even take out 1 heavy in Kronos!!
Enterprise had PMC on it, not cath crew. you'll need a 4* ship if you're trying to do that.
Im a L40. What can I hit? My Stella is 932k; My Enterprise is 3.24M; my Intrepid is 2.35M. I have PMT&;. 5-9/11; Bev, Khan, Gorkon & Riker. Pls advise.
Your ships are very underpowered/weak for your level. Pike-Moreau-Chen on your ENT should be able to take out the regular transports though.
these 2 new ship primes are big
Sol is the fastest cause wolf system is next door... and the chest I do them 25 or so at a time and get more bps then u did for 100... 50 bp from Kelvin under 30 from hydra and dam 300 or less for newton to go.. so yeah In my opinion I say do it around 25 chest at a time. Now I'm about 120mill or so to go to 1billion romulan rep!
Omg I hated the Antares bps lol 😂
You need to make a much more specific video for mid to low-level 30 players on how to do this. What you showed in the video isn't specific enough to ship tiers and officers' levels
Guess that depends on you. I used this same method as a mid-30s player and several have already come to me with SS in the same situation who are able to replicate my success. it is possible others are too high leveled without proper ships/officers, though.
@@RevDeuce I tried a number of times and only ended up burning through about 30% of the haul before. I lost
@@RevDeuce I mean i can grind
level 46 Jem hadars but not these things
I did know before the video and learned after grinding ohh newton bp waaaaa lol just need lvl 46 shipyeard no rep needed lol
What teir are your Bev and skinny Mudd? I still struggle with the heavies with that crew in a 9 mil augur
try pmt instead
Is there an analogous Fed system to Ty'Gokor?
Thanks for the video Rev! As far as 4* bp, is this faction rep dependant? Ops level?
hostile level
I don't have any ships strong enough to fight these. I have been level 39 for 6 months or so. My ships just get instantly blown up.
Picard, Bev, Cath in a T8 enterprise took down about 20% of one heavy. It seems I'm not better than I think I am.
Cath needs to be like T4 or T5 to be better than T'Laan I believe.
How do you tell the difference between heavies and regular transport
It's in their name
Can I get like level 41 BPs if I’m only level 39 Ops?
Are the blueprint drops depending on level?
Drops are based on the hostiles you hit not your Ops level.
Did everybody forget about Tal?
the Sol spawn rates in 14 are so bad for regular transports, they practically spawn like candy in romulus compared to sol for us
Do you get more BPs from grinding a capital system like Kronos vs. grinding the 49s & 50s in the deep space part of that same faction's territory? Because I can kill a lot more of the deep space ships than the heavy transports at my lvl.
About the same
I'm lvl 35... I call bull. I'm going to go try.
Well, put me down for "I'm a level 38 and got my ass handed to me even by the regular transports, despite using the punch-up crew"
Lvl 39, ftp, fed admired. Been grinding kronos for weeks now, still had nothing better than vahklas bps, its a joke 😡
10K rep per hour? I do 10 mill in a hour