Both trucks are absolutely incredible. I've had both and both have distinct and unique advantages. At the end of the day nothing tows like a Ford Super Duty.
Your dollar is what's lost its value. Along with some corporate greed. Why not charge the mark up right in the MSRP? OEM's got jealous of dealers during Covid.
He's also showing you the price of a 3500HD and the Denali Ultimate, not just the Denali. A 2024 2500HD Denali is $85,685. So, it has gone up $7,465 in 4 years - $1,866 per year. Which is still disappointing, but not that extreme and absolutely in line with inflation on everything else. The interior upgrades are easily worth that alone, but also the HP and torque have improved over that time.
You are right friend. Denali and platinum and limited used to have way more options. Like wood trim on steering wheel. And a 6.2 gas on half tons with AWD option. Now they are all the same. It’s all just diff trim colors and color match bumpers and grilles. That it. On ford. It different interior colors. That’s all. Ppl are suckers.
@@benjamincoon3158 Upgrades? Like what? Hp and Torque? Hardly makes a difference. A bigger screen? Gimmick, Everything else is the same. WAY overpriced.
@fit4ya1975 Lol, if you think the interior upgrades are minor, that is laughable. It's a night and day difference. The interior was extremely outdated. But, while you say the HP and torque are minor, that increased towing capacity from 14500 to 20k plus (for the Denali/Denali Ultimate trim). I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the interior is specifically why I didn't buy a new one, I stuck with my 2017 because it was the same. I'm now going to get the 2024 Denali Ultimate or wait until October to get the 2025 depending on what updates they make. But they also improved the leather and included real wood in the interior (again, a real upgrade imo) the seats now have a massage feature (you can say it is a gimmick, but I quite enjoy it). So, maybe the better way to say it is, if you have the money and purchasing a 90k vehicle isn't a problem, those upgrades are worth the additional 7,465 from 2020 to 2024. Especially when you consider, adjusted for inflation $78,400 in 2020 is the equivalent of $94,981.14 in 2024. So the fact that it has only gone up 7500, instead of 16,581. The real bitch of the equation is the interest rate that you could've gotten in 2020 (if you financed) compared to what you would get in 2024.
I work in truck accessories, and I will say the GMC Denali pretty much does everything it can to make sure installing bumpers, light bars, aftermarket fog lights, or really anything is nearly impossible for consumers. I’m talking custom tools that the average Joe installing stuff won’t have. The ford you can install with just a handful of tools in most cases.
You can modify a Denali Ultimate or a Denali to have an offroad bumper and a winch. There is the GMC SLT, AT4 and lower trims that can have anything installed. I am not sure what you are talking about.
A couple of things I've notice on my 2024 Chevy LTZ 3500HD are, the transmission temperature is displayed, when tow/haul is selected and the turning radius is improved compared the 2020 GMC Denali 3500HD I traded. Great videos JB!
I must say your reviews are concise and have a seamless flow that's easy to watch. You present the facts in an unbiased way and it's apparent from your videos that you know what you're talking about and not just reading off the spec sheet like other reviewers.
Great video JB! I agree that the GMC looks better and has the nicer interior, but I own something that GMC does not have, and that is a truck with an awesome turning radius, the F-450.
GMC for the Win! The GMC has the Transformer look. Fords look better in Platinum Tremor trim package. Limited is $10K overpriced to say it's Limited to whomever wants to buy it.
I just bought a2024 f-250 xl, my opinion the truck has enough options for our needs. That said how can anyone justify paying double the price, does anyone need all these features for driving 15,000 miles a year! If anyone is using a truck to drive commercial buy a OTR
The looks of Ford trucks are very bland. The GMC wins in the looks area for sure. I think the GMC wins all around, but the power stroke is hard to beat IMO for power and MPG. I love the Ford seats, but GM wins everywhere else.
Nice video, but you were biased. For example, you failed to point out many negatives on the GMC such as the column shifter blocking a portion of the screen when in drive. Also, when you went over to the center console in the Ford you neglected to open it to show how easy it is to access items below the tray. In the GMC you have to remove the tray. Also, to unlock the doors from the outside, on the Ford you just grab the handle, it will unlock and you can open. On the GM, you have to push the button on the handle, then grab it to open. Lastly, maybe I missed it, but the GMC does not have adjustable pedals...I think you left that out too. Overall a nice video but I think you left out a few major downsides on the GMC.
Very informative videos, Thanks. I don;t know if you have done it but, can you do a comparison between a Ram 3500 Limited and a Ford F350 Platinum or Laramie vs. Lariat?
After 3 Duramax trucks I went with the 24 f350. A lot of the reviews from this channel helped me make that decision. Three months in I realize I made a huge mistake. Found the ford takes on water with a driveway car wash. Floods the passages side floor.
It's nothing new this is an example of how a free market works. I agree the inflation in 2024 is out of control but you can still get a 24 F350 XL Supercrew 4X4 with close to the same capabilities for $54,000. It's not like these are the only options for a 3500 series truck these are examples of the most expensive vehicles they build at whole.
Why do people make such ignorant comments?? You don't have to buy a truck with all the options...and it has nothing to do with the country falling apart..
As a Ford owner, I used to like the GMC grill from a few years ago...they fugged it up with that ridiculous trim surround 1/2 way around the bottom of the grill The chevy HD has been hideous for years...looks like Vincent Schiavelli..
Go ask any non-truck person which truck they think cost $100k. They will say neither but that the GMC looks more like a $100k truck than the Ford. The Ford looks like a regular truck, not $100k truck.
A lot of people don't realize the Duramax runs an HP4 fuel pump, and the Ford is running a CP4 the HP4 is a MUCH better unit, and has nothing to do with the old CP3 & CP4 pumps Very robust unit
The GMC self driving is sick, the GMC (and Chevy)and the ram have definitely proven to have the more reliable engines in this era so for me those are way to go
I can't answer this question without saying both but the thing is I don't li,e the refresh for the ford limited I would have went for the 2022 model year with that being said I would have taken both but the ultimate would have been first
We have both GM and Ford products in our house. GM hands down looks way better than the Ford. Ford looks like an old mans truck. Needless to say, I couldnt afford either.
They did not collaborate on the HD 10 speed, only the 1/2 ton. There is a video of a GM engineer differentiating that and that they only worked with Allison on the HD 10 speed design.
You'd think after all these years, you'd have it right by now. They absolutely co-developed the HD 10 speeds with Ford using beefier internals. Allison has nothing to do with it except for selling their name to GM. Maybe you can learn from these: ua-cam.com/video/M0cJJ_4L18k/v-deo.htmlsi=6_gFzIiD5ww0vpyI ua-cam.com/video/FUmxJ-6pRpk/v-deo.htmlsi=QG4ab1v6RAeey3o4
Linking videos with incorrect assumptions does not make you correct. There is a video of a GM chief engineer specifically stating that the 10L1000 was not codeveloped with Ford, only the 10L80. He also stated they worked with Allison during the design and testing. You'd think after all these years, you'd have it right by now.
No, I'll say it even more quickly. I will keep my 2002 Ford Super Duty F350 XLT Power Stroke Crew Cab with only 38,100 miles on it, always garaged, and cost me new, $39,400.00, 22 years ago. The prices on these far more inferior, aluminum-bodied, hunks of metal are priced so damn high that even President Trump couldn't afford one. Ford, GM, and Stellantis are going to go broke because no fool would pay these prices.
why GM has those butt ugly mirrors that just look terrible with the uneven arms just amazes me, no symmetry .. just ruins the whole aesthetic of the truck.. the orange side light markers are also awful.. the truck would look so much better with these two things corrected.. just makes it look tacky
If you're going to spend this stupid amount of money on a TRUCK, you might as well get the most expensive everything the manufacturer offers......ridiculous that we've allowed prices to become unobtainable by regular working people who need just a regular work truck. When plain Jane half tons start....START... at $51,xxx, it just shows how ignorant we've become. Regardless of "economic increase" this and "technology improvement" that, vehicles should NOT cost this much. But again, we're the ones who've allowed this by continuously pulling out loans for these overpriced boxes on wheels and saving manufacturers from themselves.
That’s nuts, gm’s interior looks like it was designed by the same people that built a play school toy. Plus the interior falls apart after a few years.
@@brianbarclay4316 Respectively I disagree. I have a 2020 Denali HD. Interior looks the same as when I bought it. What makes you say that the interior looks like it was designed by the same people that built a play school toy? What do you not like about it?
@@brianbarclay4316Ford fanboy in da house. This is a first year interior in the gmc so how do you know it will fall apart in a few years? Enjoy that time bomb of a fuel pump on the Ford.
@@pnwdweler4100 I’m talking about gm’s history of building cheap interiors that fall apart. The fuel pump thing is a crock if you run good fuel. We have several 6.7 powerstrokes at work and have never had a fuel pump fail!
@brianbarclay4316 What's funny about GM fan bois crying about CP4 pumps is that it was GM's lack of a lift pump that caused the fail rate average to be higher... Sad part is that I've fallen for the internet hysteria and now run Archoil in my '24....though I've never had a failure in my 4 previous PSD's over 100's of thousands of miles....
Both trucks are absolutely incredible. I've had both and both have distinct and unique advantages. At the end of the day nothing tows like a Ford Super Duty.
I had a 2020 Denali 2500 Duramax. Sticker was $78,400. There is absolutely no way these new trucks are worth $22,000 more.
Your dollar is what's lost its value. Along with some corporate greed. Why not charge the mark up right in the MSRP? OEM's got jealous of dealers during Covid.
He's also showing you the price of a 3500HD and the Denali Ultimate, not just the Denali. A 2024 2500HD Denali is $85,685. So, it has gone up $7,465 in 4 years - $1,866 per year. Which is still disappointing, but not that extreme and absolutely in line with inflation on everything else.
The interior upgrades are easily worth that alone, but also the HP and torque have improved over that time.
You are right friend. Denali and platinum and limited used to have way more options. Like wood trim on steering wheel. And a 6.2 gas on half tons with AWD option. Now they are all the same. It’s all just diff trim colors and color match bumpers and grilles. That it. On ford. It different interior colors. That’s all. Ppl are suckers.
@@benjamincoon3158 Upgrades? Like what? Hp and Torque? Hardly makes a difference. A bigger screen? Gimmick, Everything else is the same. WAY overpriced.
@fit4ya1975 Lol, if you think the interior upgrades are minor, that is laughable. It's a night and day difference. The interior was extremely outdated. But, while you say the HP and torque are minor, that increased towing capacity from 14500 to 20k plus (for the Denali/Denali Ultimate trim). I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the interior is specifically why I didn't buy a new one, I stuck with my 2017 because it was the same. I'm now going to get the 2024 Denali Ultimate or wait until October to get the 2025 depending on what updates they make. But they also improved the leather and included real wood in the interior (again, a real upgrade imo) the seats now have a massage feature (you can say it is a gimmick, but I quite enjoy it). So, maybe the better way to say it is, if you have the money and purchasing a 90k vehicle isn't a problem, those upgrades are worth the additional 7,465 from 2020 to 2024. Especially when you consider, adjusted for inflation $78,400 in 2020 is the equivalent of $94,981.14 in 2024. So the fact that it has only gone up 7500, instead of 16,581. The real bitch of the equation is the interest rate that you could've gotten in 2020 (if you financed) compared to what you would get in 2024.
I work in truck accessories, and I will say the GMC Denali pretty much does everything it can to make sure installing bumpers, light bars, aftermarket fog lights, or really anything is nearly impossible for consumers. I’m talking custom tools that the average Joe installing stuff won’t have. The ford you can install with just a handful of tools in most cases.
You can modify a Denali Ultimate or a Denali to have an offroad bumper and a winch. There is the GMC SLT, AT4 and lower trims that can have anything installed. I am not sure what you are talking about.
The gmc looks sweet. Best looking truck out there in my opinion.
I’m a hardcore Ford guy but the GMC front end looks better
A couple of things I've notice on my 2024 Chevy LTZ 3500HD are, the transmission temperature is displayed, when tow/haul is selected and the turning radius is improved compared the 2020 GMC Denali 3500HD I traded. Great videos JB!
Denali Ultimate all day long.
The GMC is the absolute best looking as far as the exterior goes… I like how GM and Ford have electronic controls and knobs.
I am in the market and going to make the plunge for one of these trucks. Your reviews, delivery, and knowledge is the best! Thanks
I must say your reviews are concise and have a seamless flow that's easy to watch. You present the facts in an unbiased way and it's apparent from your videos that you know what you're talking about and not just reading off the spec sheet like other reviewers.
The GMC looks a lot better and when you open up the hood, it don’t look like it’s all clutter in the engine compartment like the Ford.
Ball of snakes
Great video JB! I agree that the GMC looks better and has the nicer interior, but I own something that GMC does not have, and that is a truck with an awesome turning radius, the F-450.
I'd take the Ford. But preferably the F350 Platinum Tremor with high output powerstroke.
GMC for the Win! The GMC has the Transformer look. Fords look better in Platinum Tremor trim package. Limited is $10K overpriced to say it's Limited to whomever wants to buy it.
I just bought a2024 f-250 xl, my opinion the truck has enough options for our needs. That said how can anyone justify paying double the price, does anyone need all these features for driving 15,000 miles a year! If anyone is using a truck to drive commercial buy a OTR
Id take the gmc im a gmc Person just cuz of the refresh and updates look
That would be cool if GM and Ford actually collaborated on transmissions.
The looks of Ford trucks are very bland. The GMC wins in the looks area for sure. I think the GMC wins all around, but the power stroke is hard to beat IMO for power and MPG. I love the Ford seats, but GM wins everywhere else.
Nice video, but you were biased. For example, you failed to point out many negatives on the GMC such as the column shifter blocking a portion of the screen when in drive. Also, when you went over to the center console in the Ford you neglected to open it to show how easy it is to access items below the tray. In the GMC you have to remove the tray. Also, to unlock the doors from the outside, on the Ford you just grab the handle, it will unlock and you can open. On the GM, you have to push the button on the handle, then grab it to open. Lastly, maybe I missed it, but the GMC does not have adjustable pedals...I think you left that out too. Overall a nice video but I think you left out a few major downsides on the GMC.
Very informative videos, Thanks. I don;t know if you have done it but, can you do a comparison between a Ram 3500 Limited and a Ford F350 Platinum or Laramie vs. Lariat?
Personally, I’d rather have a Chevy 3500 high country in the midnight
Gmc is the new fancy
Very nice video, man they sure do make it tough to decide.
After 3 Duramax trucks I went with the 24 f350. A lot of the reviews from this channel helped me make that decision. Three months in I realize I made a huge mistake. Found the ford takes on water with a driveway car wash. Floods the passages side floor.
100 grand for a truck.........our country is falling apart
Agreed
It's nothing new this is an example of how a free market works. I agree the inflation in 2024 is out of control but you can still get a 24 F350 XL Supercrew 4X4 with close to the same capabilities for $54,000. It's not like these are the only options for a 3500 series truck these are examples of the most expensive vehicles they build at whole.
Why do people make such ignorant comments??
You don't have to buy a truck with all the options...and it has nothing to do with the country falling apart..
As a Ford owner, I used to like the GMC grill from a few years ago...they fugged it up with that ridiculous trim surround 1/2 way around the bottom of the grill
The chevy HD has been hideous for years...looks like Vincent Schiavelli..
Ford Platinum is what I bought
!!!’ You really did like the thumbnail idea!
Great video JB which one you prefer
Go ask any non-truck person which truck they think cost $100k. They will say neither but that the GMC looks more like a $100k truck than the Ford. The Ford looks like a regular truck, not $100k truck.
A lot of people don't realize the Duramax runs an HP4 fuel pump, and the Ford is running a CP4 the HP4 is a MUCH better unit, and has nothing to do with the old CP3 & CP4 pumps Very robust unit
Agreed Denso>Bosch.
Cp3 was best even without a lift pump in DMAX.
The GMC self driving is sick, the GMC (and Chevy)and the ram have definitely proven to have the more reliable engines in this era so for me those are way to go
Clearance lights are just poser lights on a SRW. They are required by law on a dually because of the width.
I can’t get past the brown leather seats in the GMC. Don’t understand why there is no option for a different color.
The Ford Limited only has the work truck grey/blue 🤮
The GMC has abetted look!
I can't answer this question without saying both but the thing is I don't li,e the refresh for the ford limited I would have went for the 2022 model year with that being said I would have taken both but the ultimate would have been first
please do a review on a 2024 GMC SLE Regular cab dually Duramax 🙌
Do a video on that red single cab dully
He has already.
2024 3500 GMC WHITE FROST TINT TRICOAT MINE IS BEAUTIFUL FORD LOST ME WITH THE GOOFY FRONT ENDS
We have both GM and Ford products in our house. GM hands down looks way better than the Ford. Ford looks like an old mans truck. Needless to say, I couldnt afford either.
Isn't BAP avaiable on the Ford?
GMC would be my choice ❤
GMC looks and rides so much better
GMC looks better. I don't like the ultimate interior, stick with the black leather
GMC for me always
Gmc looks better
They did not collaborate on the HD 10 speed, only the 1/2 ton. There is a video of a GM engineer differentiating that and that they only worked with Allison on the HD 10 speed design.
You'd think after all these years, you'd have it right by now.
They absolutely co-developed the HD 10 speeds with Ford using beefier internals.
Allison has nothing to do with it except for selling their name to GM.
Maybe you can learn from these:
ua-cam.com/video/M0cJJ_4L18k/v-deo.htmlsi=6_gFzIiD5ww0vpyI
ua-cam.com/video/FUmxJ-6pRpk/v-deo.htmlsi=QG4ab1v6RAeey3o4
Linking videos with incorrect assumptions does not make you correct. There is a video of a GM chief engineer specifically stating that the 10L1000 was not codeveloped with Ford, only the 10L80. He also stated they worked with Allison during the design and testing.
You'd think after all these years, you'd have it right by now.
@@folkenheath
Link that video...or it didn't happen.
The reply gets deleted every time I put a link in it.
It's called, Allison 10-speed transmission in 2020 Silverado HD, from HWT
The video number is lBocpjvch8M
There’s so much wasted space next to and around the cup holders with the GMC. Ford uses that space way better
Yes they did a better job on ford the chevy center is better than GMC but the ford did a job with it
You forgot about the ram 3500 tradesman
That's the only way they can pay the us workers to bolt them together.
No, I'll say it even more quickly. I will keep my 2002 Ford Super Duty F350 XLT Power Stroke Crew Cab with only 38,100 miles on it, always garaged, and cost me new, $39,400.00, 22 years ago.
The prices on these far more inferior, aluminum-bodied, hunks of metal are priced so damn high that even President Trump couldn't afford one.
Ford, GM, and Stellantis are going to go broke because no fool would pay these prices.
Fords rears are stamped made in INDIA 😅😢😢😢
Any truck with an independent front suspension is not a heavy duty truck.
Who cares about heavy duty just get it to go get some groceries and furniture from from IKEA
Interesting take. It's wrong but still interesting.
@@xhawkeye8717 face it nobody that has any real work to do with a truck buys a gm, they just don’t hold up to it!
@brianbarclay4316 have a fleet in so ca best decision co made.
@@brianbarclay4316 Lies. They hold up to a LOT of abuse. You must be a Ford loyalist.
GMC Sierra or NOTHING. THAT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS. 😊
why GM has those butt ugly mirrors that just look terrible with the uneven arms just amazes me, no symmetry .. just ruins the whole aesthetic of the truck.. the orange side light markers are also awful.. the truck would look so much better with these two things corrected.. just makes it look tacky
Gm made the transmission period. N😮😮😮😊
GM all the way everyday
The ford wheel look like some cheap after market. Like Moto or MB motoring from discount tire.
If you're going to spend this stupid amount of money on a TRUCK, you might as well get the most expensive everything the manufacturer offers......ridiculous that we've allowed prices to become unobtainable by regular working people who need just a regular work truck. When plain Jane half tons start....START... at $51,xxx, it just shows how ignorant we've become. Regardless of "economic increase" this and "technology improvement" that, vehicles should NOT cost this much. But again, we're the ones who've allowed this by continuously pulling out loans for these overpriced boxes on wheels and saving manufacturers from themselves.
I just hate Ford's use of materials on the interior. So much hard plastic and cheap materials. GMC has a much better interior.
That’s nuts, gm’s interior looks like it was designed by the same people that built a play school toy. Plus the interior falls apart after a few years.
@@brianbarclay4316 Respectively I disagree. I have a 2020 Denali HD. Interior looks the same as when I bought it. What makes you say that the interior looks like it was designed by the same people that built a play school toy? What do you not like about it?
@@brianbarclay4316Ford fanboy in da house. This is a first year interior in the gmc so how do you know it will fall apart in a few years? Enjoy that time bomb of a fuel pump on the Ford.
@@pnwdweler4100 I’m talking about gm’s history of building cheap interiors that fall apart. The fuel pump thing is a crock if you run good fuel. We have several 6.7 powerstrokes at work and have never had a fuel pump fail!
@brianbarclay4316
What's funny about GM fan bois crying about CP4 pumps is that it was GM's lack of a lift pump that caused the fail rate average to be higher...
Sad part is that I've fallen for the internet hysteria and now run Archoil in my '24....though I've never had a failure in my 4 previous PSD's over 100's of thousands of miles....
GMC way better
But Ford building the transmission in china.
All in China. F150 32% American. Bronco 18 % American ranger .08 % American. Shame on ferd terd😢
Chins China China that was easy ferd.😮😢
The GMC wheels are No-Gos…yuck.
The ford just looks so ugly.