after listening to anders and justice.. its /really/ obvious just how little of anders is actually left by dragon age 2. his speech patterns, his attitude, its almost 100% justice with a thin coating of anders clinging to it..
Jorge Diaz I mean Anders the funny one. Recently, I completed the awakening story mode and I think for me, your party should be Oghren, Nathaniel and Velanna? Just to add mystery in anders justice possession in DA2. You don't need to follow this if you want. I did this because the story falls right into their places if you choose to spare the architect.
Naturally, if your party was Oghren, Velanna, and Nathaniel leaving Sigrun, Justice and Anders at Vigil's Keep, you arrived at the city of amarathine, your party believed that the city is lost. Of course you can persuade the to save the city, leaving the Vigil's Keep to its destruction and killing your spare party members there. In Dragon Age 2, Hawke and Anders meets Nathaniel in Deep Road. Surprised, Nathan told Anders that he saw his dead body in the Keep with an arrow on the neck. Anders replied that if some grey wardens came looking for him, tell them that(anders with arrow in the neck)
@Aleksa Petrovic Velanna feels more natural. It would have been one thing if they didn't try to keep Anders goofy in 2. Just her in Anders role in 2 makes way more sense. Maybe not the medic part helping people, but everything else just fits her and her beliefs better. It's hard to believe the Anders from Awakening would blow up the Chantry. Still hard to believe Anders in 2 would blow up the Chantry.
I mean, the simple fact is, by the time of Dragon Age 2, Justice *has* become a Demon, by his own definition. A spirit corrupted by his desire; in this case, his desire for Justice. That desire was corrupted by Anders' rage against the Chantry into Vengeance. By that time Justice is less interested in Justice than simply attacking the aggressor in any given situation; regardless of how the "victim" feels about the situation. Anders is host to Justice/Vengeance. As a result, the spirit does have influence over Anders' mind and actions, sometimes passively just by influencing him, sometimes actively taking control. Anders already hated the Chantry and the Templars, and on one or two occasions even expresses a mild desire to "rain fireballs on every Templar in existence". But he never acted on that Hatred, choosing simply to flee and hide from them rather than stick his neck out for every mage in existence that may or may *not* want to be "freed" from the Chantry. Justice's influence changed that. Passively, Justice's presence gave him the courage to stand up for Mages more. On occasion, Justice would more forcefully take a stand to strike back at particularly aggressive Templars going too far. When Anders' lover Karl is made Tranquil against his will, that gives Anders a big push. Meredith and her Templars keep getting more and more oppressive, squeezing tighter and tighter, becoming Tyrants even by the standards of how Mages *usually* see Templars. With Justice/Vengeance constantly seething at this within his mind, Anders is gradually pushed to seek retribution on behalf of Mages. He occasionally tries to be the cheerful snarker he used to be, but the plight of Mages is stuck at the forefront of his mind, ever glued there by Justice, smoldering at how Mages are treated. The Chantry would *never* let Mages go free, would never loosen their grasp. The Chantry sees their authority as *ABSOLUTE,* noone and nothing has a higher say than they do in their mind, especially in regards to magic. In order for Mages to *ever* truly be free of the Chantry, it would have to be by force. With the situation in Kirkwall spiraling ever more out of control, Anders/Justice/Vengeance decide to push the whole thing over the edge with one extremely drastic measure, one that will shake the foundation of every Chantry and Circle of Magi on the planet. By destroying the Chantry with the Revered Mother still inside, he forces Meredith's hand, forcing her to invoke the Rite of Annulment. But because he's not only an Apostate, outside the Circle, even before he left the Circle, he was from an *entirely different Circle,* the Kirkwall Circle are outraged and rise to defend themselves. The Mage/Templar war has begun. In Anders' eyes, it was always inevitable; either this war would happen at some point, or Mages would remain under the Templar's heels until the end of time, assuming the Chantry never decided to simply start executing Mages the moment their powers manifest (which, let's be real, Anders/Justice probably saw as a very real possible eventuality, given Meredith). He simply started something he saw as inevitable. He hates himself for what he has become by this point, fully aware of the perversion of Justice's nature by Anders' own mind. But at the same time, he sees nothing he can do to change it. He can only act on what he feels is right. As cheerful and entertaining as Anders is in Awakening, he absolutely has his moments where he gets mopey and angry about the whole Mage/Templar situation. It honestly strikes me as a very logical progression. Whoo, that turned into an essay, didn't it.
I still come back to listen to this and laugh myself off my chair when hearing 'Hey I'm fond of the Howes! I'm also fond of the Whys the Whos and the Whats!'
Anders and Justice: 0:00 Anders and Nathaniel: 2:06 Anders and Sigrun: 3:59 Anders and Velanna: 5:52 Anders and Oghren: 8:07 Justice and Nathaniel: 11:04 Justice and Sigrun: 13:18 Justice and Velanna: 14:49 Justice and Oghren: 17:23 Nathaniel and Sigrun: 19:45 Nathaniel and Velanna: 22:09 Nathaniel and Oghren: 25:03 Sigrun and Velanna: 27:52 Sigrun and Oghren: 29:39 Velanna and Oghren: 34:00 Anders: 36:56 Justice: 40:19 Nathaniel: 42:03 Sigrun: 43:25 Velanna: 44:34 Oghren: 45:54
well when you accept a spirit of justice into yourself and it becomes a demon of vengeance because of your hatred against templars the moment it enters your body i think its normal that Anders became a whiny bitch lol.
I want a romancable Female Dwarf like a rogue with sigrun's sort of cheery yet dutiful personality that is why I was so excited when I got to flirt with Harding but unfortunately that wasn't a real Romance
@@twylla5 Apparently the creator of Dragon age inquisition didn't like the idea of your character being with a dwarf, hence why you could only flirt with scout harding, bc dwarfs seemed too childlike in appearance.
I always like that Howe became the Warden's best friend. It was a bro thing like: "My dad was an ass and hated your dad then killed him, but I'm not my dad and you aren't yours. To hell with old hatreds by old men, let's get some fire brandy." (I always play Cousland.)
Since I found out Cullen and Ander's share the same voice actor, I can't unsee Cullen talking to his pet dog the way Ander's talks to his cat and it's hilarious.
Reminds you why Anders got turned into crazy.Justice screwed him up,he even says it at at the end of the game, That allowing Justice in was a horriblemistake and made both ofthem into monsters with the compelling need of Vengeance.
Me in awakening: Lmao he going to become a demon of silence Me in DA2: That was totally not what I meant I thought he would just roam around the fade saying shhhh not blow shit up. Justice I’m not angry I’m just disappointed
Yep. Nathaniel even has the gall of going "fuck,I was hoping Justice would be the dominant personality" when he meets Anders in DA2. In other words,Nathaniel WANTED to screw over Anders.
I wish Anders was voiced by Gregg Ellies in DA2, nothing against Adam Howel in Dragon age 2 I find Gregg made him more likeable and funny. Still, he voiced Cullen and that's mighty fine with me.
My fireballs are bigger than yours... I miss Velanna, at least there was Merrill. And I missed Velannas magic, that was very special, used it more often than the fireballs^^
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR DA:I TRESPASSER DLC! Well mythal endured in flemeth...... Solas even said he imprisoned the evanuris in the fade, rather than killing them. He even stated that; 'The first of my people do not fie so easily' maybe they never could truly die.
Yes, a boring jokester with no personal philosophy that he'd earnestly fight for besides himself, whose niche was already filled by Alistair. A total catch. Truly.
@@optimaltt6070 . Totally agree, and Anders was already annoying and whiny in Awakening, even the Warden can call him out about it. The only difference is in DA2 he gets crazy by the end of Act 3.
They meet 2 times exactly, 1 in awakening just when Anders is recruited. 2nd is in DA2 when you take Anders with you to speak with Alistair. Alistair remembers he was a grey warden.
Søren Wilsen So that was really how Inquisition started out? This goes to my headcanon. I'm sure I can answer the questions regarding a fugitive terrorist mage and the King hanging out and bonding about their Warden pasts. With sass.
Katherine Weber Anders: Say weren't you a Grey Warden once? Alistair: That's the rumor, wait weren't you? Anders: That's the rumor. Alistair: Well, we certainly get around.
If you ask me, this was one of the strongest character lineups in Dragon Age games. Anders, Velanna, Nathaniel and Justice are all A tier Dragon Age companions, and Oghren and Sigrun, while not among the most interesting characters, have fun personalities and play well with the others in banter. It's a damn shame that Awakening is not a full game and pretty much ends upon acquiring the full roster of these colorful personalities, so you never really get to know them as well as you know your companions in other games. I would have paid good money for a full game with all these Warden misfits. The romance options alone would have been a great addition.
honestly i think sigrun as a character could be so interesting if she was a fully developed charatcer, her origin could add a lot to the story and it feels like death is her coping mechanism. wish she was our dwarven companion in origins instead of oghren who i personally dislike, maybe she could've joined us when we meet that group of the legion in the deep roads. I think her and velanna could really benefit from more screentime, the game basically ends when they start to develop
I love the banter in awakening. It really makes one understand why Anders in Da2 is the way he is. Anders always had the same opinions on the circle and templars but was selfish before, only caring about himself, not wanting to get involved and killed. Just wanting to have fun. All while Justice is very much the opposite. selfless, serious, innocent. Them fusing broke them both. A shame but I like broken Anders too. I just did a playthrough where I went gay and romanced him just so my Hawke acts as his body guard after Kirkwall. I'm playing inquisition now. I wonder if that'll be mentioned.
When the entire grey warden group and you know this is probably the most accurate way of how they all interact on a daily basis's , just because of the diverse people
That conversation involving Sigrun telling Velanna she's does what she's been doing to prove not to them but herself; that hits me pretty hard in the feels
I keep asking myself how Hawke and company would react to meeting Anders and Justice from the past. What would they think? Would they like these versions of them more? Would they be saddened that Anders and Justice used to be so amiable (and funny in Anders’ case) before they became an abomination?
I am watching this and realize that the actors who did Oghren and Anders voices must have had a blast doing their banters with the other characters, you can literally hear how happy they sound. DAA Anders, you will be missed, you were one of my favorite characters in DA, until you let a spirit into you and left you with his demon( I am making a baby joke here for those that does´nt get it)
justice reminds me of sten , i could actually give my first born for a conversation between those two? don't let me get started about morrigan and velanna.
he became a borderline abomination. Anders offered to let Justice into his body, but due to Anders' anger Justice became a spirit of vengeance instead. That destroyed Anders' personality.
I'm so happy this video exists! I didn't get to recruit Velanna because of a bug, and I would have greatly regretted never getting to hear flirty Nate.
Thinking about how originally it was going to be Velanna instead of anders who would reappear in da2 merged with justice, and there's adequate foreshadowing for both
Whew, i find all the comments about how perfect Anders was in Awakening so depressing. I don't think he was perfect. I think he was hiding his pain and anger behind a smart mouth. I much prefer the fully realized person he was in DA2.
johnson yeah, I don't think you were actually meant to "enjoy" a severely mentally ill character so much as appreciate the honesty of the game showing what a lifetime of abuse would do to a person.
I really wish fhe old Bioware team was still around. These DLC characters were so much more likeable than a majority of 2 and Inquisition's main characters, and with less play time.
Man I would have loved to see what velanna with justice as originally planned would be like. She’d whine about the Dalish like how Anders whines about the mages. Would also be cool to see velanna interact with Merrill, and also when we meet Nathaniel it’d be cool to see that they had a romance that was prematurely ended cuz of justice. Also justice crazed Velanna would be like Azula :D
@@Nakarotto1 its possible that they originally were supposed to have something developed in the future but bioware dropped their plans for velanna thus we get nothing about it. Originally velanna was planned to return for kirkwall but they changed it to anders. Some of her planned story was salvaged for Merril is my guess
SKYRIM addict His vulgarity made him so great. You'd know he'd piss off the other party members. But everytime it was still a hilarious new way of saying it.
I find him funny but he's my 2nd least favourite companion in Origins because the concept is a done-to-death stock character, he doesn't add to the setting and, worst of all, he's a massive arsehole but you can never really call him out on it. The game assumes you think he's a lovable buffoon and only lets you laugh or roll your eyes; you can't actually disapprove of his actions or attitude. (This isn't the only time Bioware's done this. I consider Black Whirlwind in Jade Empire to be worse.) That being said, I think Origins/Awakening has the strongest lineup of all of Bioware's games. I don't mind Oghren and even Zevran (my least favourite) is nowhere near the bottom of my list for all Bioware companions.
Yep it’s almost like he almost became a demon but barely holding it off .....Justice was all Justice all forms in a way....it’s sad to see something like that go awry
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Anders: "I need healing!"
My Warden: "You're our healer, Anders."
My Warden: Cullen...is that you?
Ironic, he can heal others, but not himself.
@@rambofan334 They studied 'Heal Allies' and 'Heal Self' in different classes in the circle and Anders escaped during the latter.
Imagine if Justice met Cole. That would be an awesome conversation.
Imagine if Justice could have existed without possessing a body like Cole did.
I think Cole would have a problem with the innocent people Justice and Anders killed in DA2, he is compassion and always wants to help people.
Cole: "they didn't do anything wrong, they were victims"
Justice: "they must die for their deeds"
@@Davidofthelost . Cole killed many innocent people too. Just saying.
@@SeventhheavenDK Yes, but Cole did it because he thought he was relieving them of their suffering. Justice did it as an act of revenge.
after listening to anders and justice.. its /really/ obvious just how little of anders is actually left by dragon age 2. his speech patterns, his attitude, its almost 100% justice with a thin coating of anders clinging to it..
i think because anders supposedly died in awakening. the real anders
+Edward Marasigan I don't follow
Jorge Diaz I mean Anders the funny one. Recently, I completed the awakening story mode and I think for me, your party should be Oghren, Nathaniel and Velanna? Just to add mystery in anders justice possession in DA2. You don't need to follow this if you want. I did this because the story falls right into their places if you choose to spare the architect.
+Edward Marasigan No I want to know I just started DA2 and u think that Justice took over Anders
Naturally, if your party was Oghren, Velanna, and Nathaniel leaving Sigrun, Justice and Anders at Vigil's Keep, you arrived at the city of amarathine, your party believed that the city is lost. Of course you can persuade the to save the city, leaving the Vigil's Keep to its destruction and killing your spare party members there. In Dragon Age 2, Hawke and Anders meets Nathaniel in Deep Road. Surprised, Nathan told Anders that he saw his dead body in the Keep with an arrow on the neck. Anders replied that if some grey wardens came looking for him, tell them that(anders with arrow in the neck)
*Listens to the banter between Justice and Anders* Huh, they did foreshadow that shit didn't they?
If you have Justice, Anders, and Nathaniel in your party, it feels even more like foreshadowing.
Also Justice and Nathaniel.
@Aleksa Petrovic Velanna feels more natural. It would have been one thing if they didn't try to keep Anders goofy in 2. Just her in Anders role in 2 makes way more sense. Maybe not the medic part helping people, but everything else just fits her and her beliefs better. It's hard to believe the Anders from Awakening would blow up the Chantry. Still hard to believe Anders in 2 would blow up the Chantry.
I mean, the simple fact is, by the time of Dragon Age 2, Justice *has* become a Demon, by his own definition. A spirit corrupted by his desire; in this case, his desire for Justice. That desire was corrupted by Anders' rage against the Chantry into Vengeance. By that time Justice is less interested in Justice than simply attacking the aggressor in any given situation; regardless of how the "victim" feels about the situation.
Anders is host to Justice/Vengeance. As a result, the spirit does have influence over Anders' mind and actions, sometimes passively just by influencing him, sometimes actively taking control. Anders already hated the Chantry and the Templars, and on one or two occasions even expresses a mild desire to "rain fireballs on every Templar in existence". But he never acted on that Hatred, choosing simply to flee and hide from them rather than stick his neck out for every mage in existence that may or may *not* want to be "freed" from the Chantry. Justice's influence changed that. Passively, Justice's presence gave him the courage to stand up for Mages more. On occasion, Justice would more forcefully take a stand to strike back at particularly aggressive Templars going too far.
When Anders' lover Karl is made Tranquil against his will, that gives Anders a big push. Meredith and her Templars keep getting more and more oppressive, squeezing tighter and tighter, becoming Tyrants even by the standards of how Mages *usually* see Templars. With Justice/Vengeance constantly seething at this within his mind, Anders is gradually pushed to seek retribution on behalf of Mages. He occasionally tries to be the cheerful snarker he used to be, but the plight of Mages is stuck at the forefront of his mind, ever glued there by Justice, smoldering at how Mages are treated.
The Chantry would *never* let Mages go free, would never loosen their grasp. The Chantry sees their authority as *ABSOLUTE,* noone and nothing has a higher say than they do in their mind, especially in regards to magic. In order for Mages to *ever* truly be free of the Chantry, it would have to be by force. With the situation in Kirkwall spiraling ever more out of control, Anders/Justice/Vengeance decide to push the whole thing over the edge with one extremely drastic measure, one that will shake the foundation of every Chantry and Circle of Magi on the planet.
By destroying the Chantry with the Revered Mother still inside, he forces Meredith's hand, forcing her to invoke the Rite of Annulment. But because he's not only an Apostate, outside the Circle, even before he left the Circle, he was from an *entirely different Circle,* the Kirkwall Circle are outraged and rise to defend themselves. The Mage/Templar war has begun.
In Anders' eyes, it was always inevitable; either this war would happen at some point, or Mages would remain under the Templar's heels until the end of time, assuming the Chantry never decided to simply start executing Mages the moment their powers manifest (which, let's be real, Anders/Justice probably saw as a very real possible eventuality, given Meredith). He simply started something he saw as inevitable. He hates himself for what he has become by this point, fully aware of the perversion of Justice's nature by Anders' own mind. But at the same time, he sees nothing he can do to change it. He can only act on what he feels is right.
As cheerful and entertaining as Anders is in Awakening, he absolutely has his moments where he gets mopey and angry about the whole Mage/Templar situation. It honestly strikes me as a very logical progression.
Whoo, that turned into an essay, didn't it.
@President Hanosh . Maybe that is why they changed it.
"Why do you want me to kill the bush?!"
~Anders ( 5:19 )
Little did Justice know, Sir Pounce-a-lot enslaved Anders, not the other way around.
What is this? Futurama?!
I like to see a banter between :
Velanna /morrigan
Alistair/anders
Sigurn/shale
Justice/sten
Gledania Minos
Also oghren v sera. Battle of vulgarity
@@edwardhim2276 Here's to Dragon Age 4
@@edwardhim2276 man, I really want Oghren and Sera in 4 now
Carrie Smith I could imagine him mocking the bards song
Sera was never a good lookin girl
Her tongue was filled with lies and rot
Alistair anders exists for 1 moment, if you meet Alistair with anders in your party
I still come back to listen to this and laugh myself off my chair when hearing 'Hey I'm fond of the Howes! I'm also fond of the Whys the Whos and the Whats!'
Justice: I would NEVER possess a living host
Me: *hysterical laughter* *crying*
*Laughs in blown up Chantry.*
Anders and Justice: 0:00
Anders and Nathaniel: 2:06
Anders and Sigrun: 3:59
Anders and Velanna: 5:52
Anders and Oghren: 8:07
Justice and Nathaniel: 11:04
Justice and Sigrun: 13:18
Justice and Velanna: 14:49
Justice and Oghren: 17:23
Nathaniel and Sigrun: 19:45
Nathaniel and Velanna: 22:09
Nathaniel and Oghren: 25:03
Sigrun and Velanna: 27:52
Sigrun and Oghren: 29:39
Velanna and Oghren: 34:00
Anders: 36:56
Justice: 40:19
Nathaniel: 42:03
Sigrun: 43:25
Velanna: 44:34
Oghren: 45:54
Thank you!!!
Thank you so much!!
thank you!!!
Thank you
Nathaniel: I take it you're an admirer then?
Oghren: What? No! No!! ...not unless--NO!
Kokobro Just give in, Oghren...🤣
Kind of miss the old Anders. He's changed so much. Makes me a little sad.
I wanna know why he's spontaneously homosexual and constantly whining. I blame Justice.
I don't mind him being Homosexual, and actually he became bi. It's just the whining I am bothered by.
He was always bi. He flirts with Nathaniel too.
Why does it make you sad?
well when you accept a spirit of justice into yourself and it becomes a demon of vengeance because of your hatred against templars the moment it enters your body i think its normal that Anders became a whiny bitch lol.
I admire how Velanna actually seemed happy when anders complimented her ears
so funny, Velanna is an elf but she's just so insecure about her ears
i guess her ears are too big even for an elf
I want a romancable Female Dwarf like a rogue with sigrun's sort of cheery yet dutiful personality that is why I was so excited when I got to flirt with Harding but unfortunately that wasn't a real Romance
Assassin Cactus Hopefully there will be one in da4. There's not nearly enough love for our short stocky friends.
@@twylla5 Apparently the creator of Dragon age inquisition didn't like the idea of your character being with a dwarf, hence why you could only flirt with scout harding, bc dwarfs seemed too childlike in appearance.
@@goth9ever Way to contribute to the infantilization of irl people with dwarfism :/
@@milody496 Look it up, these are not MY opinions, but that of the creator, i was relaying the reason, not my perspective.
BUDDY DO I HAVE NEWS
Justice- Oghren banters: Ohhh so that's why Justice won't let Anders drink... huh, never noticed that
/sigh. Old Anders was the best. He was so sassy and humorous.. Also, Nathaniel Howe for president.
I always like that Howe became the Warden's best friend. It was a bro thing like: "My dad was an ass and hated your dad then killed him, but I'm not my dad and you aren't yours. To hell with old hatreds by old men, let's get some fire brandy." (I always play Cousland.)
Okay Nate humming was actually adorable.
"I..I'm fine! It's just a flesh wound!"
God I laughed SO hard during so much of this. Such a great game series.
Pre Justice Anders gives me feels...
It's probably because it's that sweet sweet Cullen voice
Pre Anders Justice also gives me feels
He was annoying even then.
Since I found out Cullen and Ander's share the same voice actor, I can't unsee Cullen talking to his pet dog the way Ander's talks to his cat and it's hilarious.
"Aren't you just the cutest little thing, yes you are Sir Pounce-a-lot."
"I said duck! If that was a fireball you'd be dead right now!"
Oh my god the banter between Anders and Oghren is pure gold
Velanna and Nathaniel dialogue is great.
I could listen to Nathaniel's voice forever.
Yesssss
i never heard the one with anders and oghren making fun of each other im dying
I love how everyone picks on Velanna and her insecurity about her ears.
Nathaniel, I love ya man, but I'm going to partially blame you for the DA2 Anders mess
A joking mage and a vengeful Templar. Greg Ellis and his range...
"I do believe that's the best pirate I've ever seen."
When Anders and Oghren are doing the voices making fun of each other I just lose it every time.
The tone in Anders's voice when he says: "What do you think I should call him? Frederick??" always gets me. Hilarious.
Me listening to Velanna and Nathaniel: "Oh just bonk already!"
Ahhh Sigrun so brightening everything she says is so cheerful
lmao they be roasting her on those ears
who are the characters below ?
Gledania Minos Versions of OP's wardens in the expansion
"Check the sky for flying pigs!" Pre-Justice Anders was sassy and way more humorous! I love him.
Steven Blum (Oghren) is a god-damned national treasure.
nathaniel: i always liked the outdoors🌲🍂🌳🐻😊
also nathaniel: *steps in mud* what the fuck
you know, listening to anders and justice talking....
Reminds you why Anders got turned into crazy.Justice screwed him up,he even says it at at the end of the game, That allowing Justice in was a horriblemistake and made both ofthem into monsters with the compelling need of Vengeance.
+LeonGun8 that moment and the intimate moments with Hawke are just about the only moments in which its actually anders
9:35-10:15 AHAHAHAHAHA OGHREN KILLED IT :D
Me in awakening: Lmao he going to become a demon of silence
Me in DA2: That was totally not what I meant I thought he would just roam around the fade saying shhhh not blow shit up. Justice I’m not angry I’m just disappointed
I actually like Nethanial and Velanna diologe
12:05 so Anders has Nathaniel to blame lol
Yep. Nathaniel even has the gall of going "fuck,I was hoping Justice would be the dominant personality" when he meets Anders in DA2. In other words,Nathaniel WANTED to screw over Anders.
flower bean I wouldthink both.Nathaniel liked Justice in Awakening and he IS kind of an asshole.
Aw I miss Justice he used to be so pure :( also Sigrun is adorable
I wish Anders was voiced by Gregg Ellies in DA2, nothing against Adam Howel in Dragon age 2 I find Gregg made him more likeable and funny. Still, he voiced Cullen and that's mighty fine with me.
I think it's because Anders was meant to be a more serious character in DA2
Ever since playing DA2, I've wished Adam Howden had played Anders in Awakening. I find it jarring to hear Cullen's voice coming out of Anders' mouth.
@@bekkers29 yeah all the pro Mage lines in Cullen's voice is really jarring
My fireballs are bigger than yours... I miss Velanna, at least there was Merrill. And I missed Velannas magic, that was very special, used it more often than the fireballs^^
I liked Merril more, having Dalish Elf Wardens clan come back was great
The elves were long lived, maybe ageless but not immortal.
Immortal is the inability to die full stop, why is that such a hard concept to grasp?
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR DA:I TRESPASSER DLC!
Well mythal endured in flemeth......
Solas even said he imprisoned the evanuris in the fade, rather than killing them.
He even stated that;
'The first of my people do not fie so easily'
maybe they never could truly die.
I've never heard immortality described as such. As I have always understood it, immortal and ageless mean about the same thing.
Nah. According to Trespasser some of them were straight up immortal.
Mythal died and she still lived so...
Thus Little Nate sums up the Anders in DA2
I miss the old Anders here...
Yes, a boring jokester with no personal philosophy that he'd earnestly fight for besides himself, whose niche was already filled by Alistair. A total catch. Truly.
Your replying to a 7 year old comment.
You know that right?
@@optimaltt6070 . Totally agree, and Anders was already annoying and whiny in Awakening, even the Warden can call him out about it.
The only difference is in DA2 he gets crazy by the end of Act 3.
So it sounds like Nathaniel was the one who gave Justice the idea to possess Anders.
Secretly, Nathaniel is a Sith Lord.
Gosh...I ship Nathaniel and Velanna so hard. They're so adorable. I miss the Awakening cast so much.
Despite having much less dialogue, I actually like the Awakening cast even more than the Origins cast.
Nathaniel you have some apologizing to do after encouraging Justice like that...
I want Alistar to meet Anders. They are so alike.
Er, they do. If Alistair is King. No funny banter happens, though.
They meet 2 times exactly, 1 in awakening just when Anders is recruited. 2nd is in DA2 when you take Anders with you to speak with Alistair. Alistair remembers he was a grey warden.
If they hung out in this era though, the concentrated sass would rip a hole in the fabric of the world and let in all the spirits of the fade.
Søren Wilsen So that was really how Inquisition started out? This goes to my headcanon. I'm sure I can answer the questions regarding a fugitive terrorist mage and the King hanging out and bonding about their Warden pasts. With sass.
Katherine Weber Anders: Say weren't you a Grey Warden once? Alistair: That's the rumor, wait weren't you? Anders: That's the rumor. Alistair: Well, we certainly get around.
ANDERS AND OHGREN HAVE THE /GREATEST/ BANTER
wooow the sexual tension between Nathaniel and Velanna XDDD I ship them!!
Ur really cute
Velanna is too crazy.
I FUCKING LOVE THIS ANDERS HE IS PERFECT
it's tough, after all it's Cullen :[
+Alvin the Chipmunk
Greg Ellis, although I imagine Steve valentine (Alistair) would have done just as well.
If you ask me, this was one of the strongest character lineups in Dragon Age games. Anders, Velanna, Nathaniel and Justice are all A tier Dragon Age companions, and Oghren and Sigrun, while not among the most interesting characters, have fun personalities and play well with the others in banter. It's a damn shame that Awakening is not a full game and pretty much ends upon acquiring the full roster of these colorful personalities, so you never really get to know them as well as you know your companions in other games. I would have paid good money for a full game with all these Warden misfits. The romance options alone would have been a great addition.
honestly i think sigrun as a character could be so interesting if she was a fully developed charatcer, her origin could add a lot to the story and it feels like death is her coping mechanism. wish she was our dwarven companion in origins instead of oghren who i personally dislike, maybe she could've joined us when we meet that group of the legion in the deep roads. I think her and velanna could really benefit from more screentime, the game basically ends when they start to develop
I love the banter in awakening. It really makes one understand why Anders in Da2 is the way he is.
Anders always had the same opinions on the circle and templars but was selfish before, only caring about himself, not wanting to get involved and killed. Just wanting to have fun.
All while Justice is very much the opposite. selfless, serious, innocent.
Them fusing broke them both.
A shame but I like broken Anders too. I just did a playthrough where I went gay and romanced him just so my Hawke acts as his body guard after Kirkwall. I'm playing inquisition now. I wonder if that'll be mentioned.
Oghren one made me laugh "Well the noble caste has a stick up its collective butt a stick called tradition."
Velanna is voiced by Grey Griffon who also plays Azula in Avatar The Last Airbender. How did I only make that connection now?
Velanna and her ears... хD
When the entire grey warden group and you know this is probably the most accurate way of how they all interact on a daily basis's , just because of the diverse people
Anders: “What do you think I should call him Fredrick?”
My Warden: “...What’s wrong with Fredrick....
That conversation involving Sigrun telling Velanna she's does what she's been doing to prove not to them but herself; that hits me pretty hard in the feels
Nathaniel/Vellanna
When will we get an actual female Dwarf romance. Or a non magic elf that doesn't make my ears bleed
I keep asking myself how Hawke and company would react to meeting Anders and Justice from the past. What would they think? Would they like these versions of them more? Would they be saddened that Anders and Justice used to be so amiable (and funny in Anders’ case) before they became an abomination?
As everyone else pointed out, the Anders and Justice banter is pretty sad, and makes me wistful for Anders before his DA2 downspiral.
Valenna is a dalish blonde Morrigan.
Is that a bad thing?
+Retbullgivesyouwings we didnt get a god baby nor a god mother so its not a good thing
With a giant chip on her shoulder.
No no no no nou!!!!
She's different from Morrigan she's wayyyyy different i just cant put it to words
The banter here is so good! It's like an actual dnd party
I am watching this and realize that the actors who did Oghren and Anders voices must have had a blast doing their banters with the other characters, you can literally hear how happy they sound.
DAA Anders, you will be missed, you were one of my favorite characters in DA, until you let a spirit into you and left you with his demon( I am making a baby joke here for those that does´nt get it)
I love Anders❤️
“I’m not only a dwarf, I’m a moron!!”🤣😂🤣😂
I miss the pre-da2 anders
Me too.
Justice really messes him up.
He also needed his cat.
+Kendra Long Honestly, Justice and Anders sorta screw each other up.
+kelli campbell
The cat is still in the inventory of the hero of Ferelden.
justice reminds me of sten , i could actually give my first born for a conversation between those two? don't let me get started about morrigan and velanna.
So the frames on the bottom are your canon Cousland. Mahariel, Brosca, Aeducan, Tabris and Amell? Potentially I could have a couple mixed up.
i never noticed nathaniel’s little hum...... i’m in love...........
"Baby Rock Dwarves"
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29:18
33:02
I love the banter between Oghren and Anders, most xD
2:09 - 2:14 why now I'm imagining Nathaniel run after Anders with a sword in his hand? XD
I skipped Awakening before playing 2 and like omg Anders what did they do to you?
ikr!! it's so frigging weird
it was originally supposed to be the elf mage, I'm not sure if it would've been more or less out of place.
They wanted to show what happens to a person when they're possessed
he was such a chirpy little cutie pie. Then justice happened....
he became a borderline abomination. Anders offered to let Justice into his body, but due to Anders' anger Justice became a spirit of vengeance instead. That destroyed Anders' personality.
I'm so happy this video exists! I didn't get to recruit Velanna because of a bug, and I would have greatly regretted never getting to hear flirty Nate.
Justice and Nathaniel talk about justice possessing a living person
Love the banter between Anders and Oghren, he is so funnily disgusting is Oghren
Thinking about how originally it was going to be Velanna instead of anders who would reappear in da2 merged with justice, and there's adequate foreshadowing for both
Oghren and Anders banter is the best
Anyone else ship Nathaniel and Velanna?
+scififan599 i am, now that i heard all of their conversations
“LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT MY LIFE IN ONE WORD.. ‘Burp’”
The amount of times justice said he would never possess a mortal is a little disturbing
Whew, i find all the comments about how perfect Anders was in Awakening so depressing. I don't think he was perfect. I think he was hiding his pain and anger behind a smart mouth. I much prefer the fully realized person he was in DA2.
Agreed.
Yea no i dont enjoy that one i like smarty anders
johnson yeah, I don't think you were actually meant to "enjoy" a severely mentally ill character so much as appreciate the honesty of the game showing what a lifetime of abuse would do to a person.
nah, i think awakening anders was genuine, but the moment he let justice possess him... gg. i like both daa and da2 anders.
He wasn't definitely perfect in Awakening either.
Omg i didn't realize Anders was so funny, like my god. XD
I swear... Anders is starting to sound like David Tennant.
I really wish fhe old Bioware team was still around. These DLC characters were so much more likeable than a majority of 2 and Inquisition's main characters, and with less play time.
Love Velanna
It's so irritating for Anders and Cullen to have the same voice.
7:25 Azula's voice comes out when shes being sadistic lol
They should have put some damn romance options in awakening..
nooooo, why did I let Nathan go, he's such a good companion 😭
Man I would have loved to see what velanna with justice as originally planned would be like. She’d whine about the Dalish like how Anders whines about the mages. Would also be cool to see velanna interact with Merrill, and also when we meet Nathaniel it’d be cool to see that they had a romance that was prematurely ended cuz of justice. Also justice crazed Velanna would be like Azula :D
Nathanial and Velanna
It is kinda of a surprise those two didn't hook up afterwards. I wonder if they meet again later in life.
@@Nakarotto1 its possible that they originally were supposed to have something developed in the future but bioware dropped their plans for velanna thus we get nothing about it.
Originally velanna was planned to return for kirkwall but they changed it to anders. Some of her planned story was salvaged for Merril is my guess
dunno y ppl hate Oghren. He is one of the most awesome ones
SKYRIM addict His vulgarity made him so great. You'd know he'd piss off the other party members. But everytime it was still a hilarious new way of saying it.
I find him funny but he's my 2nd least favourite companion in Origins because the concept is a done-to-death stock character, he doesn't add to the setting and, worst of all, he's a massive arsehole but you can never really call him out on it. The game assumes you think he's a lovable buffoon and only lets you laugh or roll your eyes; you can't actually disapprove of his actions or attitude. (This isn't the only time Bioware's done this. I consider Black Whirlwind in Jade Empire to be worse.)
That being said, I think Origins/Awakening has the strongest lineup of all of Bioware's games. I don't mind Oghren and even Zevran (my least favourite) is nowhere near the bottom of my list for all Bioware companions.
I miss Justice :(
Anders-Justice is just so different. And Vengeance is obviously no better.
Yep it’s almost like he almost became a demon but barely holding it off .....Justice was all Justice all forms in a way....it’s sad to see something like that go awry
02:14 Howe clever