The biggest factor, and a character trait I love in both characters, is that they are kings first and heroes second. So friends and allies are second to the well-being of their people. It is a pleasantly realistic presentation of the grey area required for such positions.
I always wondered that with characters like Thor and T chala. What happens if they go heroing and they are taken? I'm sure their respective regions would just want them to never leave.
@@jayymorris5285 the thing about black panther is that he didnt join the avengers to be a hero he joined them to keep intel on threats to his nation he goes heroing to stop villains who threaten the earth and also keep tabs on some the earth's strongest beings As for thor he a is a warrior king and his peoples culture revolve around fighting so he just fights wherever he is he has been doing this through out his life he goes to earth fights with mortals and then bounces after a while he only stayed longer than usual cuz he joined the avengers and they are always fighting but that is thor as a prince in the stories where thor becomes king he leaves earth and goes back to asgard and helps from his palace
@@pikadika5781 and? How many times have MCU characters been recasted? How important is T'Challa Black Panther in the Marvel comics? They must not be real fans then.
They ended after Civil War lol. This video didn’t even mention the incursion events where BP and the Illuminati were blowing up planets which also cause strife. Do you read comics?
@@Mmmkay.. yep batman in the comics has contingency plans for every super being he knows/trusts and it just so happens that black panther is similar(sometimes truly he is a genius) and has a "contingency plans" so I made this comment
Wolverine stuck his claws in Namor's chest so adamantium can cut deeper actually. Neither of them could overpower Namor though as he is strong enough to go blow for blow with Savage Hulk
namor is a very mean super hero. he has way too many issues because everything got taken from him. i read the fantastic four strange days comic and in that namor lost atlantis and all his people in it. in his depression he tried to take sue away from reid, which caused a fight between the two of them
@@possiblymaybe6711 she didn’t leave him, he was fine with her being a mutant but her team and namor attacked his home and killed his people was not something he could forgive
This is a perfect video short to explain some of the animosity between Wakanda & Namor before Wakanda Forever is released. Although the film story won’t be exact to the comic elements of the comic story including potential misunderstandings, manipulations, and consequences, should be present in the film.
@@Alexander-wq7qo yea kinda but you never saw her train so you can only assume she did so it’s a bit odd for her to keep up with namor and at the end it feels like a cop out when it happens but it could just be me idk
@@madmank7881 I do not understand. I merely pointed out that they're are DOZENZ of kings in the marvel universe. What are you referring to or trying to say ??
Love these two's feud in hickman's New Avengers run, BP always ready to off Namor everytime he sees him lol. Reading Namor talk is so much fun to read, cause he's such a dickhead, and is weirdly insightful at times
I understand Namor at the Same Time, how the hell did you think there was another way to stop the incursion ? It's one earth or two universes and that's it
Bring back T’challa in the MCU with use of a variant arriving in the main universe he won’t replace Chadwick but we will understand why he is considered the new one
BP- "If I were a lion, and you were a tuna, I would swim out in the middle of the ocean and freaking eat you! And then I'd bang your tuna girlfriend" Neymar -Okay, first off, a lion swimming in the ocean? Lions don't like water. If you'd placed it near a river or some sort of fresh water source, that'd make sense. But you find yourself in the ocean, 20-foot waves, I'm assuming it's off the coast of South Africa, coming up against a full-grown, 800-pound tuna with his 20 or 30 friends? You lose that battle. You lose that battle nine times out of ten. And guess what? You've wandered into our school of tuna, and we now have a taste of lion. We've talked to ourselves. We've communicated.
It got worse. Shuri in the comics is a Hardcore warrior, When Tchalla and Namor made a truce to save Earth from Incursions, The Wakandans kinda Slaughtered the Atlanteans. So Namor "Dry Snitched" about the Gems TO THANOS......Shuri later was killed..😏
I guess comic book Wakanda doesn't have force fields because no way a tidal wave is breaking though the MCU's Wakanda shields! Not even galaxy conquering alien tech could
You picked that up too? Marvel/Hollywood are low key tryin to start something! The viewers are small minded and fall for it and take to social media to beef
They both became cool again after passing Susan Storm between them while she was stay in Wakanda. Fact that they both were smashing her while she was estranged from the Stretch
I have a theory on Wakanda Forever, Atuma is gonna spark the war between Atlantis and Wakanda and plans to overthrow Namor from the throne cuz he's not a pure Atlantian.
@@pqcowboychanel You don't understand trends? There's been a clear pattern of behavior that has been consistent in recent years. If you can't put two and two together, that's frankly on you.
While their personalities couldn’t be any more different, T’Challa and Namor are much alike in the sense that they are willing to do whatever it takes for the good of their people, even if the good of their people isn’t good for the rest of the world.
That's cool as it was to make them enemies and keep them like that that's a lie that they stayed like that saying it was irreparable. They made amends at the perfect time when Dr Doom was God in secret wars AKA battle world. Matter of fact only Dr Doom could make them join forces and squash that beef lol.
Remember when Namor tried to steal Sue Storm from Reid Richard and Sue Storm was kinda attracted to him as well because Namor revealed that when Sue was underwater meeting him he can hear her heart beating fast towards him. But she never act upon them.
Then BP and namor had to team up, on another planet, after winning said battle, black panther stabbed namor, left him on the planet, and blew it up with Namor still on it..
Namor is a beast. Tchalla is a tech/Magic enhanced individual...Should be like no match between 'em..considering Namor fought the Hulk and lots of heavy hitters. Plus Namor's attitude is the most badass ever...he's the first Vegeta type of dude i ever seen.
@@possiblymaybe6711 nah.. Plot armour protected...Nice suit ; nice plant but grab him by his neck and make his body explode like an orange with a sweet visit of abyss ;) But yeah...TChalla might be stronger than Bruce...but opposition is Imperus Rex
"Why does Black Panther hate Namor?" Me: Man wants to takeover and flood the world, and tries to ruin good relationships. We don't need anymore reasons.
The biggest factor, and a character trait I love in both characters, is that they are kings first and heroes second. So friends and allies are second to the well-being of their people. It is a pleasantly realistic presentation of the grey area required for such positions.
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Similar to young justice Aquaman he gave up being Aquaman to kaldur now he is king of Atlantis and tries to keep the peace
I always wondered that with characters like Thor and T chala. What happens if they go heroing and they are taken? I'm sure their respective regions would just want them to never leave.
Not gonna lie, After reading a lot of the BP comics... TChalla is the worst king.. like he can't balance being king and BP
@@jayymorris5285 the thing about black panther is that he didnt join the avengers to be a hero he joined them to keep intel on threats to his nation he goes heroing to stop villains who threaten the earth and also keep tabs on some the earth's strongest beings
As for thor he a is a warrior king and his peoples culture revolve around fighting so he just fights wherever he is he has been doing this through out his life he goes to earth fights with mortals and then bounces after a while he only stayed longer than usual cuz he joined the avengers and they are always fighting but that is thor as a prince in the stories where thor becomes king he leaves earth and goes back to asgard and helps from his palace
I suddenly remembered how atlantean steel managed to hurt Aquaman.
Im a big Namor fan
Not anymore
Probably cos cats hate water
DC
ya that's dc. also fun fact, aquaman's trident can pierce superman's skin cause it's imbued with magic.
Man I wish Chadwick Boseman was still around, seeing him play a conflicted T’Challa would’ve been incredible.
I knowwww he was such a great T'Challa nailed the character right away in civil war and of course black panther
They should just recast T-'Challa.
@@microphonejacket But fans would disagree
@@pikadika5781 and? How many times have MCU characters been recasted? How important is T'Challa Black Panther in the Marvel comics? They must not be real fans then.
@@pikadika5781 No they would not. Only those who will be mad are the ones who don't like seeing a straight black man as a king and a super hero.
If someone ruined my marriage with Storm I’d start a war too🤣💀
Tchalla ended his marriage himself. Since Storm was on the opposite team
@@alejandromaldonado6159 nope that’s not what happened….Storm left him
They ended after Civil War lol. This video didn’t even mention the incursion events where BP and the Illuminati were blowing up planets which also cause strife. Do you read comics?
These people just started watching comic book YT videos to get their info. Be patient with them lmao.
@@MrLashai93 You act like you're better just for the fact that you read the comics lmao
Black panther countermeasures, codename: Triton
Yeah those Mitsubishi Tritons are real dangerous
This is underrated to the highest level 👏 💯 👌🏿
Someone please educate me 👀
Is this a comic reference
@@Mmmkay.. yep batman in the comics has contingency plans for every super being he knows/trusts and it just so happens that black panther is similar(sometimes truly he is a genius) and has a "contingency plans" so I made this comment
@@josephbingham6533 The two have some similarities on a surface level, though ultimately their characters are different
I knew vibranium could pierce his skin the only thing that can't is adamantium
What can't pierce what?
@@muhammadre3oo52 Did u even read?
@@MrWongWey no im dog
Not true, he was pierced several times by Wolverine, most recently Namor #3 when he went to the House of X seeking aid.
Wolverine stuck his claws in Namor's chest so adamantium can cut deeper actually. Neither of them could overpower Namor though as he is strong enough to go blow for blow with Savage Hulk
Namor's ego is bigger than the ocean.
This makes him more unlikable than Punisher and Deadpool within the Marvel Universe
namor is a very mean super hero. he has way too many issues because everything got taken from him. i read the fantastic four strange days comic and in that namor lost atlantis and all his people in it. in his depression he tried to take sue away from reid, which caused a fight between the two of them
...he's not a hero...he's literally aquaman if he acted like black-atom.
Hes a villain/anti hero. Not a hero
He tries to get with Sue storm regularly
He's a king nothing more nothing less
Really no way black Panther is stronger than amor. Is this another charity cause of blm recalling white guilt?
An underrated rivalry in comic books, these two have had beef for YEARS, and they probably won’t ever come to a resolve.
*Black Panther and Namor: Exist in the same City Block for more than 3 seconds*
Them: We Took that Personally
Namor The Homewrecker
Lol she left him bc she’s a mutant first and a man won’t come between her and her peoples survival
@@possiblymaybe6711 she didn’t leave him, he was fine with her being a mutant but her team and namor attacked his home and killed his people was not something he could forgive
but he is home for black panthers sister
This is a perfect video short to explain some of the animosity between Wakanda & Namor before Wakanda Forever is released. Although the film story won’t be exact to the comic elements of the comic story including potential misunderstandings, manipulations, and consequences, should be present in the film.
Namor is a beast with immense abilities. I hope they don't do him dirty in marvel films.
And they did
@@iwatommy9139 yup somehow shuri made namor “yield”
@@cesarmendoza5600 she cute
@@cesarmendoza5600 I mean the way she did it made sense
@@Alexander-wq7qo yea kinda but you never saw her train so you can only assume she did so it’s a bit odd for her to keep up with namor and at the end it feels like a cop out when it happens but it could just be me idk
In other words: It was ON SIGHT from then on!
There's literally only one king that can get these two to work together Doctor Doom
Ngl ....there are so many Kings in the Marvel Universe 😂
@@markpatjoebilldinousar1111 overpowering someone doesn't mean they're working together
@@madmank7881 I do not understand. I merely pointed out that they're are DOZENZ of kings in the marvel universe. What are you referring to or trying to say ??
Hopefully Namur takes off so my issue #1 of him will be worth more then 88 cents
With inflation it’s probably a dollar now
Shiiiiiii I'll give you three bucks for it!
Tbf Namor was being controlled by the Phoenix force when he flooded Wakanda so it really wasn’t his choice
Not really possessed but infused..like the others in AvX.. Phoenix only boosted their wills and egos...Just check how Cyke/Slim ended this run...
Exactly
He was possessed somewhat, but Namor is so proud that he refuses to apologize for what he did while in that state.
@@blackmanwithcomputer not possessed..infused...ego boosted an their wills as well.
@@FatStarZzzz Yeah, but to an extreme degree. Namor would never have done what he did under normal circumstances.
In a lot of ways part injustice, part tower of Babel in Marvel form
Love these two's feud in hickman's New Avengers run, BP always ready to off Namor everytime he sees him lol.
Reading Namor talk is so much fun to read, cause he's such a dickhead, and is weirdly insightful at times
Agreed. He's funny at his peak dickheadish moments.
I understand Namor at the Same Time, how the hell did you think there was another way to stop the incursion ? It's one earth or two universes and that's it
I'd be pissed to if someone flooded my country
If only we still had Chadwick and the MCU wasn't collapsing, seeing this on screen would be amazing
this reminds me… RECAST T’CHALLA !
The definition of "On Sight".
Black panther is basically Batman when it comes to contingencies 😭
Bring back T’challa in the MCU with use of a variant arriving in the main universe he won’t replace Chadwick but we will understand why he is considered the new one
Cats eat fish simple as
Yea well, cats don't eat sharks so...
Yeah like this "fish" can fight Hulk...plot armour is protecting Tchalla... Grab this king and make him visit the abyss...
Nice try.
BP- "If I were a lion, and you were a tuna, I would swim out in the middle of the ocean and freaking eat you! And then I'd bang your tuna girlfriend"
Neymar -Okay, first off, a lion swimming in the ocean? Lions don't like water. If you'd placed it near a river or some sort of fresh water source, that'd make sense. But you find yourself in the ocean, 20-foot waves, I'm assuming it's off the coast of South Africa, coming up against a full-grown, 800-pound tuna with his 20 or 30 friends? You lose that battle. You lose that battle nine times out of ten. And guess what? You've wandered into our school of tuna, and we now have a taste of lion. We've talked to ourselves. We've communicated.
i mean cats also hate water sooo
@@pilgrimmwise7528 no one said they did kiddo😉
namor ego is like gladiators😂 that why nothing ever goes well for him bc he always loses everything
He always bitchslaps lmao
namor the pissed off aquaman
Namor came first.
@@OmarScarborough-b6u i know that i was just comparing there temperament
This broke my heart finding out they always had a problem.. Daredevil annual #3
Wild, from the Ultimate Alliance games I would have never known
It got worse. Shuri in the comics is a Hardcore warrior, When Tchalla and Namor made a truce to save Earth from Incursions, The Wakandans kinda Slaughtered the Atlanteans. So Namor "Dry Snitched" about the Gems TO THANOS......Shuri later was killed..😏
I guess comic book Wakanda doesn't have force fields because no way a tidal wave is breaking though the MCU's Wakanda shields! Not even galaxy conquering alien tech could
Haven’t watched the movie yet but water can seep through a lot. It can go under
Holy crap this is the second black panther movie the fight between the city of Atlantis and wakanda 😳
Of course
I just remembered that Namor isnt even a hero, he is just a guy who happens to own the ocean
He's just able to fight the Hulk...fly and visit the abyss like the next flat...
Tchalla is only plot armour protected.
For real.
@@FatStarZzzz sure he can do all that. He's all a Grade A Jerk.
After reading these comments I see where Rick and Morty got Mr. Nimbus from
The african naija vs The American Niiji. Subliminal truths.
You picked that up too? Marvel/Hollywood are low key tryin to start something! The viewers are small minded and fall for it and take to social media to beef
Whaaaaaay
What does Naija and Niji mean? can you enlighten an afro like me? Thanks in advance
They both became cool again after passing Susan Storm between them while she was stay in Wakanda. Fact that they both were smashing her while she was estranged from the Stretch
Bp pulled out the batman stratagies
Namor is just a homewrecker at this point
I have a theory on Wakanda Forever, Atuma is gonna spark the war between Atlantis and Wakanda and plans to overthrow Namor from the throne cuz he's not a pure Atlantian.
Dr.doom will b secretly involved
RIP Black Panther.
too sad this will never happen. or it will be a love story with namor and shuri after a common enemy comes in.
No, don’t say that If they do the enemies to lovers trope I swear to god
@@pqcowboychanel hahaha expect the unexpected 😂
@@pqcowboychanel That unfortunately sounds likely. And of course we all know who of the two will be the "leader" of the relationship.
@@maxxor-overworldhero6730 are you seriously complaining about something that you think is going to happen?
@@pqcowboychanel You don't understand trends? There's been a clear pattern of behavior that has been consistent in recent years. If you can't put two and two together, that's frankly on you.
He made a contingency plan for Namor, makes sense why people compare Black Panther to Batman
Cannot wait for black panther 2
T challa-you see that fish man?i hate it
While their personalities couldn’t be any more different, T’Challa and Namor are much alike in the sense that they are willing to do whatever it takes for the good of their people, even if the good of their people isn’t good for the rest of the world.
Man I wish they would recast t'challa. Would love to see this kinda conflict on the big screen
I wish you weren’t yelling lmao
Namors true powers are just stealing other hero’s wives
He didn’t steal her. It was X-men vs avengers…. She’s an X-men he’s an avenger they’re on opposite sides
Who knew mr nimbus had another arch enemy
They need a movie
Black panther>>>
MCU needs to reboot Black Panther like Spiderman.
Man Namor doing Tchalla dirty!
A Fish vs a Cat. I’ll be damned
I enjoyed the part where the squadron supreme knocked his head off
It goes further than that…go back, way back…there is a certain invisible Woman involved.
bro wakanda did attack Atlantis to we can't forget that
That's cool as it was to make them enemies and keep them like that that's a lie that they stayed like that saying it was irreparable. They made amends at the perfect time when Dr Doom was God in secret wars AKA battle world. Matter of fact only Dr Doom could make them join forces and squash that beef lol.
Namor's design always looks sick hope they portray him the same in Wakanda forever
Mainly because Namor keeps getting in the way of the fish diet of the big cats in Wakanda. Fresh fish>Canned fish.
Sounds good rivalry
Mr. Nimbus
Com on Just Recast Black Panther we need the character
This is why T'challa needed to be recast . Us comic book readers would love to see TchallaThe Black Panther go against his arch enemy
kyber Island bet u get a great light sabre there
Lol i like how the beef is sort of political because of that island
ITS ON SIGHT
I heard X-men. I heard Storm. Yes!
Namor is also quite powerful even capain marvel couldn't hurt him
These beef is well written
"This is what happens when you invade Wakanda."
Can’t wait to see namor in the mcu !!
I had same feeling..but i saw this atrocious trailer. They 're gonna screw this one... Like everything recent.
Black superhero and his nemesis is water lol checks out
Africans love water. My home town makes its living off water. It’s only Americans that have an issue w water
I'm kinda sad that Ororo and T'Challa aren't together anymore...
Well, Call Mr. Nimbus and this Namor guy problem will be solved
Remember when Namor tried to steal Sue Storm from Reid Richard and Sue Storm was kinda attracted to him as well because Namor revealed that when Sue was underwater meeting him he can hear her heart beating fast towards him. But she never act upon them.
He’s pretty asf so makes sense
I wish they'd put prince namor on the tube
I thought Wakanda had a shield around it?
THAT EDGE UP
He's The Submariner not Namor.
Mister Nimbus!
Black Panther hates Neymar !? 😥💔
Ones a king size he others a kang
Looks like the Rick and Marty villain that controls the police
THEY WERE LOVERS🌈
🤡
The reason why we as readers should hate namor: he destroyed the marriage of two great characters
Hold up storm could have stopped mother nature's wrath....why? How? This makes no sense?
I cannot believe this!?!
Namor had the Phoenix Force. This was Avengers vs X-Men
Plus Storm was technically on The X-Men’a side
@@jms7265 T'challa, needs better lawyers to handle the divorce.
where are from the comic illustrations shown in this video??????????????????????????
Isn't that the guy from Rick and Morty who claims to be Rick's nemesis?
Then BP and namor had to team up, on another planet, after winning said battle, black panther stabbed namor, left him on the planet, and blew it up with Namor still on it..
Dammit two of my favorite marvel characters hate each other
Namor is a beast. Tchalla is a tech/Magic enhanced individual...Should be like no match between 'em..considering Namor fought the Hulk and lots of heavy hitters.
Plus Namor's attitude is the most badass ever...he's the first Vegeta type of dude i ever seen.
Batman can beat the whole Justice league and Bp is the MCU equivalent with his own planning
@@possiblymaybe6711 bonjour.
Quite "nope" since T'Challa is enhanced with a magic flower.. ;)
@@FatStarZzzz so he’s even stronger than bman exactly
@@possiblymaybe6711 nah..
Plot armour protected...Nice suit ; nice plant but grab him by his neck and make his body explode like an orange with a sweet visit of abyss ;)
But yeah...TChalla might be stronger than Bruce...but opposition is Imperus Rex
and then T'Challa set up the destruction of Atlantis and Namor set up the destruction of Wakanda (again). These two have a serious rivalry lol
I think they're a little more than rivals..
@@KingNexusMOCs whatever you wanna call it, you know what I mean...
@@KingNexusMOCs they should just kiss n make up
Namor underestimated black panther and lots of damage was done to Atlantis
He's Mr.Nimbus and he controls the Police
Namor looks like deep(the boys)
*the deep looks like Namor
Why was this presented it as Black Panther hating Namor, instead of the reverse??
"Why does Black Panther hate Namor?"
Me: Man wants to takeover and flood the world, and tries to ruin good relationships. We don't need anymore reasons.
Same reason every other character hates Namor. He's a tool. A Royal Tool! Imperius Rex!