When Apple was debating moving to Apple silicon I doubt it realized that its biggest competition would be older Apple silicon machines! I mean there’s not anything all that compelling about m2 (pro,max)and m3 (pro,max)to justify the significant additional costs over m1. Which is why I believe Apple should’ve considered a design that allowed interested users to upgrade their logic boards. Keep the same screen, batteries, speakers, keyboard, storage, and swap out the logic board. I believe that would’ve driven revenue. But oh well.
Yes, Apple realised that and over M2 & M3, they have corrected their mistake by making their PC ecosystem more relative to the old school of base M3, mid-M3 Pro and the powerhouse M3 Max. That has meant a few changes and complaints, but the new business model was the right way, though it needed some fixing (return of two NAND 256GB). They wanted to impress with the M1, but it has been a Catch-22; too good, as you say!
Graphic designer and video editor. M1 Pro 16" 16GB, 512 SSD. Flawless after nearly 3 years. Best MacBook I've owned. No upgrades on the horizon for me.
Hi I have the same spec, can you kindly narrate your experience regarding storage and 16gb ram utilization with large video files. Also, what sort of work flows would make your 16GB memory pressure turn red?
SAME SETUP: it is so nice as hobbyist UA-camr (in other words, an occasional/infrequent poster of videos), to have such a machine that can easily edit videos on the fly! (:
I managed to score a base model M1 Pro 16 inch about a year ago. It was priced at $1700 open box at Best Buy, and I traded in my 15 inch MacBook Pro from 2019 for about $800, so out the door it was about $1000 with tax. It’s an amazing laptop and like you’re saying is aging so well. It’s really going to be hard to top this laptop.
Film and TV editor here. I bought an M1 Pro 14" in 2021 and it still blows my mind what this thing is capable of. I can playback 8K Red RAW in realtime in Resolve with 16GB RAM. WHAT. Pretty flawless machine IMO, it does everything I need it to do.
I have a base 14” MacBook Pro M1 Pro since March ‘22 (a few months after launch), and for my needs, it’s a BEAST. I watch more movies and video content on it than I do in my living room…
Same here. Got the 14" M1 Pro base model Mac for personal use. Such a strong contender, didn't even slow down a bit since i bought it. I do programming, run Docker containers also play with LLM models too sometimes. I love the fact that It NEVER turn on fans even after pushing so hard. Not gonna upgrade till 2028 atleast.
@@weiss588 actually that is all I do with the same model of MacBook pro, it's just a bummer that I don't have the need to edit videos, would really love to use it to full potential but so sad I can't
I bought the M2 Macbook Air with 24GB or RAM, 2TB of storage from Amazon renewed. Obviously I've only had it for 1 year, but this is the best laptop I've owned, 0 problems, amazing battery life and power, etc. I don't think I'll update this machine until the next 6-7 years honestly
Honestly I feel like that should just be the standard. Buying a new laptop before that is just a waste. For apple I would say that's pretty good for longevity assuming updates don't stop, I don't really know how long Apple supports old laptops.
@@oh-noe because I bought it from amazon renewed. It's not brand new from the apple website, but I have a couple of friends that work at Amazon that have bought the exact same model and they told me that it's worth it, so far I'm delighted
Same. I agree 100%. Worse with gaming, but I didn't buy it thinking it would be good for gaming, and to be fair that's just in terms of support. The games it can play do run pretty well for being a laptop.
@StoopVital nobody buys a Mac for gaming. I just assumed he meant everything besides gaming, which I agree with. OLED is awesome and next level, but even my MacBook air m1 has a great screen. That's probably the only area they can improve in other than support for gaming, which apple has been horrible at
@@hobosnake1the argument that “nobody buys macs for gaming” only applies to the knowledgeable buyers lol, apple and retailers are dishonest with marketing and display only “3x performance, battery life” on the front page and they’d assume it applies to gaming too. Literally saw my friends and family regretting a MacBook Pro, 1200$ device because they thought expensiveness equates to everything
This is your best review to date. I'm a new convert to MacOS after 40 years of DOS/Windows. I stumbled on to a M1 Max 14" (32gb/24c/2tb) on eBay with renewable AppleCare+, and it is the BEST laptop I've owned since the original Toshiba T1100 Plus in the mid 80's (because it was the first full feature DOS laptop). Above all, you are absolutely right about upgrades, and the comparison to a zero time export only saving you 20 minutes per day over this M1 Max. For an "office drone" like myself (productivity without gaming/video processing), I've never felt I'd keep a device for "years" but this one likely outlast my need for a laptop.
You aren't. You are valuing your money too much to buy unrepairable hardware (which, contrary to the video's title cannot age well), which in case of SSD aging and subsequent failure you won't be able to even turn on, let alone salvage your data and swap your drive with a working one. I've got rid of mine as soon as I no longer needed to bugfix and test iOS apps, which I had to do for some time in my life.
So on the topic of what people do with their MacBook's. I am a 3d artist professionally, and while I did have a custom system I built with a 4090 for rendering. And that was insanely fast for rendering for sure. But I had to sell my desktop due to a pretty massive life event. But after that I still had a base M1 MacBook Air I was using as a around the house internet browsing machine. And I was forced to try and use it for my 3d modeling and rendering work. And while it cannot compete with the 4090 I had, it genuinely surprised me. It has faster timeline animation playback than my desktop. And while the rendering was no where near as close to my 4090 it was serviceable. So tempting expectations is a must. But once you do you realise just how good it was. Well skip forward a little bit and now I bought a base 14" M3 Pro MacBook Pro, and wow it handles waay more than I would have ever thought. Couple that with that battery life and everything else, I think I am going to be on Mac for a while. Do I miss my massive steam library for the off chance I would actually play a game? Sure. But there are Steam Decks and such for that.
How is the m3 pro performance vs your old desktop. Also what cpu did you have? It is surprising to me that you experienced better timeline playback on the apple chromebook versus your 4090 machine. Maybe you had a slow cpu or no ASICS or something.
@@tomasradacovsky7227 the base model has a 512gb SSD. And after checking memory usage and actually optimizing my scenes model and textures and so forth, no I’m not using any swap. So you’re wrong. If you’re incompetent and don’t know what you’re doing and don’t set your expectations correctly based on your tools then sure you could wreck your machine. But that’s more of a you problem at that point. To each their own.
My Mid-2010 MacBook pro lasted me for about 10 years, with 2 battery replacements. I got the 16" 2019 MacBook Pro, and continued to use the 2010 model as a second screen for a bit, but my iPad Air 4 has replaced it in that role now. These days for most people, it is going to be like buying a new washing machine. You get one when the old one breaks down. As for what could come in the future, it is mostly going to be new AI features that need a faster neural engine. Subject Lift and Centre Stage for example are AI features. If there was something in a future version of Final Cut that made it quicker for you to select the bits of the video that don't make it here; and that required a faster neural engine; that could maybe significantly reduce your editing time, and make it worthwhile for you to upgrade.
Got my M1 Pro 14" from my previous job and I got to keep it after I was laid off, was using my personal 2018 15" Pro before this and I love the screen size, screen, power and battery life, it's the best computer for me as I work on iOS apps and doing a Software QA gig at the moment.
I’ve had my only MacBook Pro for almost 6 years now. It’s an intel of course but still feels like new. I haven’t upgraded yet because I can’t afford to do it, but I hope I will be able to later this year. I’d probably go for an M3 variant then just because it’s out and it will last longer.
@@imaginejargons it’s a 2018. Why would you get an Intel Mac when you can get an M series instead? With those new computers that seem like pure magic, I’d never recommend an intel computer to anybody.
I’ve been a surface and xps user for years, my last personal machine was a fully maxxed out xps15 9520. It cost about the same as the MacBook Pro of the time and it’s been fine. I got a m2 MacBook Air and it’s completely replaced my i9 XPS. The Apple chips are much more powerful and efficient.
I’m still using my 2014 13’’ MacBook Pro retina as a daily driver and it is faster than our company supplied Dell laptop which is only 2 1/2 years old.
the m chips are so good i went for the m2 pro instead of buying the new m3 of any kind. saved myself a chunk of change and still gave me all the performance i would need for future years to come. plus the "downgrade" allowed me to spec up my machine and not come any where near it would be brand new. super happy with it
I’ve been on the Base M1 Air for 2 years now. My only consideration for upgrading would be to a 14” M2 Pro for the HDMI port or wait until OLED models drop. Pixel level inky blacks and faster response times will be well worth the upgrade over Mini-LED
I think the biggest upgrade we could see for the MacBook is Face ID because I'm not exactly sure what else it really needs, like yes new chips will come but the big jump from intel to apple silicon isn't really going to happen again; at least for a good while. Hot swappable batteries and upgradable storage would be nice but not exactly something I'd expect from current day apple. At this point it seems more likely that for the average consumer the system will lose software support before they actually need to upgrade. Also note that after 7 years of a product no longer being on sale(directly from apple) repair technicians can have greater difficulty sourcing parts from apple and after 9 years it becomes basically impossible with I think escalations to higher management being required to even get the part and the request can be denied for any reason including they don't want to provide the part. From what I understand after 7 years all manufacturing of replacement parts is ended and its based on the remaining supplies so if you need a logic board replaced but they don't have the 512gb logic board they may give you a 1TB logic board instead but they won't give you a 256GB logic board as from what I've learned it can't be a downgrade for the customer(based on the serial number specs, if you got a 1TB board for your 512gb model and you need another logic board replaced you could get a 512gb board if one is found) and if they've run out of the part like say the I/O board your repair may be denied unless required by an applicable law in which case they either need to manufacture a new part or find a working part. Also to my understanding after 9 years the warehouse space is cleared out to make room for more parts so Apple literally does not have the parts to supply to technicians anymore except maybe in extremely limited quantities for extreme outlier cases or for their internal engineers to be able to reference the manufactured part if needs be.
It may very well be the best electronic device I've ever owned. As you said, it's really difficult to imagine what they could improve that would make me switch to a new one.
Had a M1 Pro 14” 16gb for a few years. Just sold it and upgraded to an M1 Max with 64gb ram. 16 was a little on the low end for my needs. Amazing laptop though.
The only thing I can think of that could get me to upgrade is probably a thinner design, if they could fit everything this current MacBook Pro can do and not compromise anything but in the thinness of a MacBook Air that would be too tempting for me. I love my 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro but this is a heavy chonky boy and I can see that being a reality several years down the road.
I am using the M1 Pro 16-inch MBP with 32 GB and 512 GB SSD drive and got it refurbished from Apple Store. Good buy to complement my old 15-inch Mid-2015 MBP which I still use! And as Taylor would say, they are both Aging ….All Too Well!
M1 13" macbook pro, 16GB 1TB SSD. Holds up really well after 3 years. Only issue i have is when doing extensive work on after effects but even then, I hardly use after effects so i'm reluctant to upgrade (maybe i'll upgrade to the M1 pro/max)
Video Editor and Animation Designer. M1 Max 64GB with 2TB. I came from a 13" MacBook Pro (2015) i5, 8GB and the Upgrade was insane and every day after the Upgrade is just Fun.
My sister still uses her MacBook from 2012. Of course she’s had to replace the entire screen before and recently did a sketchy workaround procedure to update to the latest macOS but all things considered, it’s impressive and baffling to me at the same time she’s been using the same computer for a dozen years now.
I'm still on my 16" M1 Max with 64GB ram since day one almost (I had it delivered November 13 2021). Hasn't skipped a beat since, amazing machine! I think at this rate it might be the first macbook I will use for it's whole life cycle (probably another 12-24 months). Will be interesting to see how long apple will update this thing, 5-6-7 years maybe even?
I have an M2 Mac, very much spec'd out. And despite how good the M3 Macs are and how much I love raytracing, it is far from a reason for me to upgrade. Plus, when you have 96 GB of RAM and 12 cores, it's much harder to see issues years down the line. This is how you keep people into the Apple ecosystem, design a device that is so good that people may just buy a new one when they don't even need it because their older laptop is predicted to last 20+ years.
Got mine after M2 was released, it's a 32Gb with 1Tb of storage for $1.5k, a total bargin. A total beast of a machine. Was a little skeptical about the notch at first, but got used to it.
Professional developer here - bought the M2 air when it came out two years ago and it's the best laptop I've ever had (and my first apple computer). It handles all my work easily, the battery lasts so long that some days I just don't charge it, and it can even emulate AAA windows games at playable FPS. My only complaint is that the colour shows fingerprints quite clearly. If that's my only criticism after 2 years of effectively constant use, it's a pretty good computer.
My 14" M1 Pro has replaced my PC for all tasks except gaming, and is an amazing piece of kit, especially for the cost £1,450 new in 2022. I will be holding onto it for a long time. I do find it heavy compared to my 2019 HP Envy laptop I had before and a lot more cumbersome to carry around the house etc so I also now have a 2017 MacBook 12" that I use for web browsing, document writing and watching videos on the go. If Apple put the premium displays into the MacBook Air, that would be worth the trade off for a lighter laptop.
Only thing that could get me to consider jumping from the M1 Max MBP (aside from software obsolescence) is a CF express card slot. They really did do a lot for this first gen device. I love it
my M1 Pro 14 inch base model is all I could ever ask for the last few years. battery life has dropped a little bit maybe, but overall theres no task or process I cant complete. sometimes large files can get the fans jumping. but we are talking hundreds of gigs sometimes or transfers.
I feel the same I have the M2 14 inch and I love it! I normally kept my MacBooks about 5 years or so I feel like this bad boy is going to be in my life much longer. I also feel the same way about my iPhones now too I kept my 11 until just the other week and only upgraded because I dropped it in the canal, I can’t imagine getting a new one till at least iPhone 20 or 21
I bought an M1 Macbook air, base spec, for $750 nearly 2 years ago now, and it's holding up great. Still gets the latest MacOS updates, still plenty fast for what I use it for (light tasks/web browsing), and most importantly still has great battery life. Today you can get this great machine for ever cheaper, which is nuts considering how much you are getting.
THIS VIDEO. 110% could not agree more. I bought a used decently spec’d 16” M1 Max, at times I would just wonder “what else do they need to add/upgrade?”, I kind of realized quickly how the next chip iterations would just cater to a smaller niche group of professionals that really need the performance improvement. I smh for some of these M3 review comments saying like “it was time for an upgrade” (this guy was coming from an M1 Max) and another saying “you can feel the difference between M1 and M3”. I remember initially getting the base model M1 MBP with 8GB of RAM back in 2020, that thing ran everything perfectly, the only time it struggled was when I was stacking 60 videos for a multi-cam remote project on Final Cut Pro. Then Apple made the perfect pro laptops a year later.
My biggest gripe with MacBooks in general but especially my 16" M1 Pro is the weight. For commercially Li Ion batteries a 100Wh only requires about 375g (with more advanced packaging Apple can probably get this lower). Looking at the rather small cooling system, leads me to the conclusion that the largest contributor to the high weight of this device is the chassis. Going with a carbon fibre or sacrificing some structural solidity could really improve the real world usability. Laptops break for lot of reasons, snapping in half is pretty rare.
I got the 2020 13’ M1 MacBook Pro… first gen that came out with the chip. Have never had any complains. Part of me wishes I waited for 2021 16’ model for bigger screen, hdmi, magsafe… but still a great machine. Has never let me down (Computer Engineering)
Still on the M1 Macbook pro 13" with a touch bar. Its been holding up great. Only thing I would've done differently is get more hard drive space. I was going to wait to upgrade until we got FaceID or oled displays but my next Macbook pro will probably be my last one because I plan on maxing out the specs
I got one as well the day they were announced and it's still going so strong. I don't see any reason it can't last another 5 years at this point. The leap from my 2017 Intel i7 silica MBP to this is night and day.
Around 3 months ago i bought base model macbook pro 14 with m1 pro, it cost 1400 bucks, and its total beast even though its base model, they are trulyl not aging
If I could get away with a MacBook pro for college I would, only issue is that I'd need to run a fair amount of software in VMs, my mom has an M1 14in and it's been amazing, super nice to use too
Honestly Apple silicon is an interesting thing, I think really the biggest issue with it is it’s just way ahead of software demand, you almost just need software to get more complex and demanding much faster in order for a generational upgrade to even make sense. Maybe now that windows is finally moving more towards arm there will be more incentive to upgrade software
I picked up my first MBP 14 base model at Costco last year for $1500. Solid deal since M2 just came out. I haven't had any issues with it and it's amazing to travel with.
Felt the same way with my M1 Air. It was my first Mac and I got it for college. I’ve since finished my whole degree on that one device and it just never had a hiccup. I can only look at upgrading because of the I/O of the pros honestly.
I can attest to the M1 rave reviews. I have the M1 MacBook Pro, 13 inch. Im a musician (drummer) that uses Logic Pro often to record and send out session files regularly. I bought my MacBook refurbished from Apple June 2021, and I have 95% battery compacity.
Bought the 13" MBP M1 in 2021, been using it up 'til now. Dang, maybe the best purchase i had made. Sadly change back to windows cause of Engineering Software needs though, gave it to my bro and still running smoothly, dang, even the battery life is just crazy good (2-3 days of usage)!
I got a base 14 inch pro as a birthday gift a couple years ago, my first Mac and I love it. Still runs like new and it runs basically any game or program perfectly
It's only 2.5 years old... My old PC from 2017 still runs anything you throw at it. And that's 3x times older. And yeah, performance upgrades are starting to stagnate, but 2.5 years really isn't a long time...
I think it’s probably fine. Late adopters will go M3 or M4 and earlier adopters will jump when there is a significant speed increase or better screen comes along.
The first gen M1 Pro MacBook Pro is still a very good buy today, when you can buy it refurbished for 50% or less of the original purchase. Especially when you can get maxed out RAM and higher storage options.
I got an M1 Max with 4tb of storage in 2022 thanks to travelling and student discounts saving me almost 2k when compared to my home country. It’s an absolute beast and I’ve not even needed to use my desktop with the exception of super low level debugging.
I’m a lifelong PC user, but m1 gave me a reason to buy a used MacBook Air and eventually an m1 iPad Pro and even an m2 Mac mini because I found them for so cheap on the used market. Great performance, great battery life, and not much heat output. Got the MacBook Air because I don’t have to worry about cleaning out fans and can smoke (not tobacco) around it without worry. Really, my only issue is the fact that you can’t just easily upgrade the RAM or SSD; it’s technically possible, but not realistic lol.
I got a refurbished MBP 16" 16GB w/ 1TB SSD for $1500 last year and I seriously don't think I'd ever need to upgrade it until the SSD eventually gives out a decade from now. I can't name a single hardware flaw and it's the best battery experience I've had with a laptop period (used exclusively Asus and Surface laptops for the previous decade). I'm mainly a programmer and game dev and I do light video editing and 3D rendering. I have a beefy Windows rig at home but needed a portable option because I'm frequently traveling or not at home most of the day. For the first time, a MacBook was a viable option for my specific workflow and I'm very happy with this. Compile times are fast, and it handles basic 3D like a champ even on battery.
M1 Pro 16inch owner here. I’ll be upgrading to M4 Max. If the M4 in iPad is already showing RTX 2060 GPU performance in that small power envelope, I’m ready for a Mac with moser. gaming laptop performance
If the device does what you need why upgrade. I still use my iPad Air from 2014. Other than short battery life it still does media consumption just fine.
"Still" rocking my 16" M1 Pro. Like you, I simply can't say anything negative about it. Best Apple product I've ever owned. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon. Sure, I have a Windows laptop to play the odd AAA game but it can't touch the M1 Pro in otherwise regular computing--and it's newer and not all that shabby (13th gen i9 + RTX 4070).
I mean I kinda hope and expect a premium device holds up easily three years on, all my devices are and are truckin along just fine through thick or thin
M1 macbook was my first ever macbook, and I am soooooo impressed by it with the ability and how long the battery last. Everytime i use back my dell work laptop I was like wtf out of battery again
Year and half ago, I swapped i9 to m2 max, best performance jump I ever saw ❤️🔥 Probably I’ll swap this after 5-6 years no sooner. I’m working as software developer, frontend oriented.
I had the worst issue with web pages using too much memory on a 16GB M1 Pro. Having to repeatedly input my login credentials while doing research because the webpage just continued increasing RAM usage until the page was forced to close and reopen while I was researching effectively was hardening my vibes. I upgraded and have never reencountered it. Also, when the effort is put into porting a game for it, they run like a dream. Baldur’s Gate 3 and Death Stranding run well in low-power mode on an M3 Max, which I could never imagine happening on a Windows gaming laptop.
I have an M1 MBA and honestly it’s just the perfect machine for me. I don’t really do video editing or heavy things but occasionally gaming and honestly it just feels like the perfect fit. It’s been over a year for me and I can’t see myself replacing my laptop for probably another 5 years and even then idk if it would really be worthy for my workflow
Just bought my first MacBook with an M3 ever in my life and it's been a phenomenal experience for everything I do. Now I find myself in the situation where I'm selling all of my other laptops just so I can have this singular one, already sold my gaming laptop for the same price I paid for this, now I just have two more lol.
5:37 I think the real problem is that there are still a lot of apps not using the potential of 120Hz. Correct me if I'm wrong but even Apple's own native apps still barely support 120Hz. So, yeah, it's nice, I love all the frames I can get for buttery smooth visuals, but there's no way I'm replacing my M1 Pro this early. The hardware is nice and it will get nicer as the years go by. But it doesn't matter if the software isn't up to par.
My 11 year old Mid-2012 MacBook Pro is on its last legs and even getting an M1 Pro MacBook Pro will be light years ahead of what I have. I might keep it for another 11 years should I buy one.
i have my m1 for almost 2 years, but lately i have been noticing that it gets way hotter than it used to, even when doing simple/light tasks. + the battery has been draining really fast since a couple months.
I got a M1 Pro (double binned version) 14 inch 512gb MacBook Pro! It is so good and super fast for everything I do! I play a lot of Minecraft on it and it’s getting usually 150+ FPS in Minecraft! I do some light music production in MuseScore and everything is so so much faster. I upgraded from a 2013 MacBook Pro 13 inch, it was really struggling the past few months and this just blows it out of the atmosphere it’s that fast! I definitely recommend this laptop
I think Macbook Pros getting OLED in 2026/2027 will also be when Apple finally goes touchscreen. That's the only way i think it'd really warrant the upgrade cause like you said the MiniLED is so good as is. But yeah technically the OLED will use less power, have higher contrast, be able to achieve true black on the per pixel level and depending on which version of OLED they're using (look up the improvements of the new QD-OLED over WOLED, let alone compared to LED) it'll have big color accuracy improvements while simultaneously being able to hit the same brightness as MiniLED with much less chance of burn in. But overall yeah M1 series is holding up AMAZINGLY. As someone else here said, even MKBHD who famously upgrades to the newest thing because his time/efficiency is money, hasn't upgraded from his M1 Max laptop. That says it all right there.
Hey Drew, How did you hang your Apple boxes on your wall? What did you use? I want to do something similar rather than having them collect dust in the closet lol.
I have an m1 base model 13 inch, and it is my first laptop after my school Chromebook. I find it capping out in its capability relatively often, due to the 8 gb of ram and lack of IO. If I had the 14 inch pro, I think I would be just fine with that. the only other issue I have with my laptop which is entirely my fault is that I broke the screen on it a few months ago and it is now essentially a desktop. I think I will get an m3 (m4 pro depending on how soon that rolls out) pro 14 or 16 sometime soon.
My 2017 MacBook is aging like bread left outside, it cant run a web browser without fans ramping up, even though the internals have been cleaned and had fresh thermal paste.
If the HDMI port doubled as a capture card IN port, supporting 4k60 capture, 4 thunderbolt ports, a little better battery, and I’m set. I suppose they COULD do a 17” or 18” with a numerical keypad, that might be okay, but eh. The capture and an additional port would be best. Oh! Some GPU or encoding/decoding enhancements would be greatly appreciated. At least with my M1Max 32/64 still gets super laggy editing an hour long podcast with motion graphics, 3 4k cameras(2 Sony, 1 iphone)
I have an M1 Mini that is aging equally well. It runs so well that every time I think of upgrading to a different model, I have to really consider if it's worth it. The most likely scenario I can think of that will finally make me upgrade is if I switch to a laptop. Other than that, I can't think of a single reason to replace it. Apple really outdid themselves with the release of the M-series CPUs.
I bought the exact MacBook Pro you have at release (just with 2TB storage) and I’m pretty sure it’s gonna go the same way as my 2018 12.9-inch iPad Pro in terms of just keeping it for years and years because of how well it’s aging. The one downside of it 2.5 years later is I have quite a few cycles on the battery and it doesn’t last as near as long (understandably), but even that is nowhere near as bad as the intel days with the 15-inch 2019 MBP battery life 😂
In December 2023 I upgraded from a M1 13in mbp to a 16in m2 pro with 1tb. The m1 Mac was fine for my needs but 8gb ram weren’t enough since I‘m making music and doing a lot of real time audio stuff and because I’ve improved my production a lot since i got the m1 in 2021. the upgrade was definitely worth it. But if I had the M1 Pro 16in I probably wouldn’t have upgraded. And i could have gotten the m3 pro instead of the m2 pro but 1st it was cheaper and 2nd has worse multicore performance because a lot of DAWs can’t fully utilize all cores. The performance cores yes but not the efficiency cores and since the m3 has 50/50 of those i felt like I was at a loss and went for the m2. I‘m very happy with it and it basically handles everything that I throw at it. Even playing some games via whisky is great :)
9:12 Honestly when I traveled to Florida and I was carrying around my 16 in M1 Pro MacBook Pro and I brought a 500GB NVMe SSD it was kind of hard to keep it from falling and I almost dropped it on a plane which would have been embarrassing, but I do have a 1TB internal SSD so I do have quite a bit of storage if I do need it but I edit videos on the external NVMe SSD since it's pretty fast being a gen 4 M.2 PCIe SSD
I'm running an M1 and I love being able to Texture, model and edit photos on the go and then sending off those assets to my PC for rendering in apps such as blender.
I upgraded from an 9th gen i7 MBP16 to the M2 Pro MBP16 about 10 days back. The difference is night and day. I have found nothing that this does badly in these 10 days, I could count at least 10 that the old one did 1 week in. Don't know how this can be bettered.
I've tried to convince myself multiple times to upgrade to a 16" M3 Pro but my 16" M1 Pro is still so good I can't find a reason. If anything, I'd go for the M1 Max for the GPU cores which you can get for $1600 these days. That Space Black does look nice though.
I think the M1 chip is a double edged sword. Apple made it too good. The M1 pro and M1 Max MacBooks are so good that MKBHD didn’t even upgrade.
I still have my M1 Max MacBook Pro, plenty of power.
No need to update.
When Apple was debating moving to Apple silicon I doubt it realized that its biggest competition would be older Apple silicon machines! I mean there’s not anything all that compelling about m2 (pro,max)and m3 (pro,max)to justify the significant additional costs over m1.
Which is why I believe Apple should’ve considered a design that allowed interested users to upgrade their logic boards. Keep the same screen, batteries, speakers, keyboard, storage, and swap out the logic board. I believe that would’ve driven revenue. But oh well.
Yes, Apple realised that and over M2 & M3, they have corrected their mistake by making their PC ecosystem more relative to the old school of base M3, mid-M3 Pro and the powerhouse M3 Max. That has meant a few changes and complaints, but the new business model was the right way, though it needed some fixing (return of two NAND 256GB).
They wanted to impress with the M1, but it has been a Catch-22; too good, as you say!
@@j340_official yep, hopefully Apple doesn’t purposely throttle older MacBooks to get people to upgrade.
@@andyH_Englandnow they have to contend with Qualcomm X Elite. And soon zen 5 and arrow lake. So big generational upgrades will likely come back.
Graphic designer and video editor. M1 Pro 16" 16GB, 512 SSD. Flawless after nearly 3 years. Best MacBook I've owned. No upgrades on the horizon for me.
Hi I have the same spec, can you kindly narrate your experience regarding storage and 16gb ram utilization with large video files. Also, what sort of work flows would make your 16GB memory pressure turn red?
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it is so nice as hobbyist UA-camr (in other words, an occasional/infrequent poster of videos), to have such a machine that can easily edit videos on the fly! (:
@@micosstar Thank you kind sir :)
I totally regret NOT getting 16GB RAM which is why I have to get an M3 now 😢
Even old macbook pros… I owned an i7 16ram 2011 MBP, paid 1k in 2012, sold it in 2021 for 500 bucks, in perfect condition. Not a scratch
I managed to score a base model M1 Pro 16 inch about a year ago. It was priced at $1700 open box at Best Buy, and I traded in my 15 inch MacBook Pro from 2019 for about $800, so out the door it was about $1000 with tax. It’s an amazing laptop and like you’re saying is aging so well. It’s really going to be hard to top this laptop.
That’s a great deal!
Film and TV editor here. I bought an M1 Pro 14" in 2021 and it still blows my mind what this thing is capable of. I can playback 8K Red RAW in realtime in Resolve with 16GB RAM. WHAT. Pretty flawless machine IMO, it does everything I need it to do.
How did you comment if it blew your mind?
I have a base 14” MacBook Pro M1 Pro since March ‘22 (a few months after launch), and for my needs, it’s a BEAST. I watch more movies and video content on it than I do in my living room…
Incredible deal! They are fantastic media players
Same here. Got the 14" M1 Pro base model Mac for personal use. Such a strong contender, didn't even slow down a bit since i bought it. I do programming, run Docker containers also play with LLM models too sometimes. I love the fact that It NEVER turn on fans even after pushing so hard. Not gonna upgrade till 2028 atleast.
imagine buying a macbook *PRO* to watch videos...
@@weiss588 actually that is all I do with the same model of MacBook pro, it's just a bummer that I don't have the need to edit videos, would really love to use it to full potential but so sad I can't
@@weiss588 watching videos is what I enjoy, but the MacBook is used for work…😉
I bought the M2 Macbook Air with 24GB or RAM, 2TB of storage from Amazon renewed.
Obviously I've only had it for 1 year, but this is the best laptop I've owned, 0 problems, amazing battery life and power, etc.
I don't think I'll update this machine until the next 6-7 years honestly
For how much did you buy?
@@playFootball100 $1300
@@AlWwW1 wow that's how much I paid for my m2 air 8gb ram and 256gb storage lol. That's a steal
Honestly I feel like that should just be the standard. Buying a new laptop before that is just a waste. For apple I would say that's pretty good for longevity assuming updates don't stop, I don't really know how long Apple supports old laptops.
@@oh-noe because I bought it from amazon renewed. It's not brand new from the apple website, but I have a couple of friends that work at Amazon that have bought the exact same model and they told me that it's worth it, so far I'm delighted
My M1 Max MacBook was my first macOS device and my experience has been phenomenal. It’s easily the best laptop I’ve owned in any category
Same. I agree 100%. Worse with gaming, but I didn't buy it thinking it would be good for gaming, and to be fair that's just in terms of support. The games it can play do run pretty well for being a laptop.
in any category ? Oled? Gaming ?
@StoopVital nobody buys a Mac for gaming. I just assumed he meant everything besides gaming, which I agree with. OLED is awesome and next level, but even my MacBook air m1 has a great screen. That's probably the only area they can improve in other than support for gaming, which apple has been horrible at
@@StoopVitalthe best they’ve owned, they may have not owned a gaming laptop
@@hobosnake1the argument that “nobody buys macs for gaming” only applies to the knowledgeable buyers lol, apple and retailers are dishonest with marketing and display only “3x performance, battery life” on the front page and they’d assume it applies to gaming too. Literally saw my friends and family regretting a MacBook Pro, 1200$ device because they thought expensiveness equates to everything
This is your best review to date. I'm a new convert to MacOS after 40 years of DOS/Windows. I stumbled on to a M1 Max 14" (32gb/24c/2tb) on eBay with renewable AppleCare+, and it is the BEST laptop I've owned since the original Toshiba T1100 Plus in the mid 80's (because it was the first full feature DOS laptop). Above all, you are absolutely right about upgrades, and the comparison to a zero time export only saving you 20 minutes per day over this M1 Max. For an "office drone" like myself (productivity without gaming/video processing), I've never felt I'd keep a device for "years" but this one likely outlast my need for a laptop.
I'm too broke to be watching this
Same brother
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You aren't.
You are valuing your money too much to buy unrepairable hardware (which, contrary to the video's title cannot age well), which in case of SSD aging and subsequent failure you won't be able to even turn on, let alone salvage your data and swap your drive with a working one.
I've got rid of mine as soon as I no longer needed to bugfix and test iOS apps, which I had to do for some time in my life.
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@@protogionlastname6003 i mean ur not wrong and its way too damn expensive
So on the topic of what people do with their MacBook's. I am a 3d artist professionally, and while I did have a custom system I built with a 4090 for rendering. And that was insanely fast for rendering for sure. But I had to sell my desktop due to a pretty massive life event. But after that I still had a base M1 MacBook Air I was using as a around the house internet browsing machine. And I was forced to try and use it for my 3d modeling and rendering work. And while it cannot compete with the 4090 I had, it genuinely surprised me. It has faster timeline animation playback than my desktop. And while the rendering was no where near as close to my 4090 it was serviceable. So tempting expectations is a must. But once you do you realise just how good it was.
Well skip forward a little bit and now I bought a base 14" M3 Pro MacBook Pro, and wow it handles waay more than I would have ever thought. Couple that with that battery life and everything else, I think I am going to be on Mac for a while. Do I miss my massive steam library for the off chance I would actually play a game? Sure. But there are Steam Decks and such for that.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing
How is the m3 pro performance vs your old desktop. Also what cpu did you have? It is surprising to me that you experienced better timeline playback on the apple chromebook versus your 4090 machine. Maybe you had a slow cpu or no ASICS or something.
@@definingslawek4731 apple chromebook 😂
You bought a base model m3 pro, so 8GB ram for rendering which will be swapping always on that tiny 256gb ssd. That ssd will die fast lol 😂
@@tomasradacovsky7227 the base model has a 512gb SSD. And after checking memory usage and actually optimizing my scenes model and textures and so forth, no I’m not using any swap. So you’re wrong.
If you’re incompetent and don’t know what you’re doing and don’t set your expectations correctly based on your tools then sure you could wreck your machine. But that’s more of a you problem at that point.
To each their own.
My Mid-2010 MacBook pro lasted me for about 10 years, with 2 battery replacements.
I got the 16" 2019 MacBook Pro, and continued to use the 2010 model as a second screen for a bit, but my iPad Air 4 has replaced it in that role now.
These days for most people, it is going to be like buying a new washing machine. You get one when the old one breaks down.
As for what could come in the future, it is mostly going to be new AI features that need a faster neural engine. Subject Lift and Centre Stage for example are AI features.
If there was something in a future version of Final Cut that made it quicker for you to select the bits of the video that don't make it here; and that required a faster neural engine; that could maybe significantly reduce your editing time, and make it worthwhile for you to upgrade.
When you get an M1 Pro in five years, you’ll love it!
@@TylerMaximus It will likely be an M8 Pro that I replace it with.
Got my M1 Pro 14" from my previous job and I got to keep it after I was laid off, was using my personal 2018 15" Pro before this and I love the screen size, screen, power and battery life, it's the best computer for me as I work on iOS apps and doing a Software QA gig at the moment.
I’ve had my only MacBook Pro for almost 6 years now. It’s an intel of course but still feels like new.
I haven’t upgraded yet because I can’t afford to do it, but I hope I will be able to later this year.
I’d probably go for an M3 variant then just because it’s out and it will last longer.
What year is it? I've been planning to get a 2018 MacBook Pro, core i9, but I've been hearing bad things about heating and it's battery
@@imaginejargons it’s a 2018. Why would you get an Intel Mac when you can get an M series instead? With those new computers that seem like pure magic, I’d never recommend an intel computer to anybody.
I’ve been a surface and xps user for years, my last personal machine was a fully maxxed out xps15 9520. It cost about the same as the MacBook Pro of the time and it’s been fine. I got a m2 MacBook Air and it’s completely replaced my i9 XPS. The Apple chips are much more powerful and efficient.
I’m still using my 2018 MacBook Pro and I’m chillin
I’m chilling with my 2015 MacBook Pro. Replaced the battery. Zero issues. Everything runs smooth. Macs are absolutely solid products.
Same here. I just have some overheating issues and lagging, and also battery service, but other than that its still good
Hell, I use my iPad Air from 2019 for adobe illustrator. My gaming pc is even older, 2015
I’m still using my 2014 13’’ MacBook Pro retina as a daily driver and it is faster than our company supplied Dell laptop which is only 2 1/2 years old.
@@michaelbradley3393 hell yeah!
the m chips are so good i went for the m2 pro instead of buying the new m3 of any kind. saved myself a chunk of change and still gave me all the performance i would need for future years to come. plus the "downgrade" allowed me to spec up my machine and not come any where near it would be brand new. super happy with it
im so thinking about it, get a base m3 or a maxed out m2
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 maxed out m2 everyday of the week. base m3 is simply not it
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 maxed out m2 every day of the week. itll prolly even be cheaper
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 maxed out m2
I’ve been on the Base M1 Air for 2 years now. My only consideration for upgrading would be to a 14” M2 Pro for the HDMI port or wait until OLED models drop. Pixel level inky blacks and faster response times will be well worth the upgrade over Mini-LED
I think the biggest upgrade we could see for the MacBook is Face ID because I'm not exactly sure what else it really needs, like yes new chips will come but the big jump from intel to apple silicon isn't really going to happen again; at least for a good while. Hot swappable batteries and upgradable storage would be nice but not exactly something I'd expect from current day apple.
At this point it seems more likely that for the average consumer the system will lose software support before they actually need to upgrade. Also note that after 7 years of a product no longer being on sale(directly from apple) repair technicians can have greater difficulty sourcing parts from apple and after 9 years it becomes basically impossible with I think escalations to higher management being required to even get the part and the request can be denied for any reason including they don't want to provide the part.
From what I understand after 7 years all manufacturing of replacement parts is ended and its based on the remaining supplies so if you need a logic board replaced but they don't have the 512gb logic board they may give you a 1TB logic board instead but they won't give you a 256GB logic board as from what I've learned it can't be a downgrade for the customer(based on the serial number specs, if you got a 1TB board for your 512gb model and you need another logic board replaced you could get a 512gb board if one is found) and if they've run out of the part like say the I/O board your repair may be denied unless required by an applicable law in which case they either need to manufacture a new part or find a working part. Also to my understanding after 9 years the warehouse space is cleared out to make room for more parts so Apple literally does not have the parts to supply to technicians anymore except maybe in extremely limited quantities for extreme outlier cases or for their internal engineers to be able to reference the manufactured part if needs be.
It may very well be the best electronic device I've ever owned. As you said, it's really difficult to imagine what they could improve that would make me switch to a new one.
Had a M1 Pro 14” 16gb for a few years. Just sold it and upgraded to an M1 Max with 64gb ram. 16 was a little on the low end for my needs. Amazing laptop though.
The future won’t be about regular performance but about AI and tokens per second.
The only thing I can think of that could get me to upgrade is probably a thinner design, if they could fit everything this current MacBook Pro can do and not compromise anything but in the thinness of a MacBook Air that would be too tempting for me. I love my 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro but this is a heavy chonky boy and I can see that being a reality several years down the road.
I am using the M1 Pro 16-inch MBP with 32 GB and 512 GB SSD drive and got it refurbished from Apple Store. Good buy to complement my old 15-inch Mid-2015 MBP which I still use! And as Taylor would say, they are both Aging ….All Too Well!
M1 13" macbook pro, 16GB 1TB SSD. Holds up really well after 3 years. Only issue i have is when doing extensive work on after effects but even then, I hardly use after effects so i'm reluctant to upgrade (maybe i'll upgrade to the M1 pro/max)
Video Editor and Animation Designer. M1 Max 64GB with 2TB.
I came from a 13" MacBook Pro (2015) i5, 8GB and the Upgrade was insane and every day after the Upgrade is just Fun.
My sister still uses her MacBook from 2012. Of course she’s had to replace the entire screen before and recently did a sketchy workaround procedure to update to the latest macOS but all things considered, it’s impressive and baffling to me at the same time she’s been using the same computer for a dozen years now.
12 years is a good run.
@@hermanwooster8944 that is 14 years
I'm still on my 16" M1 Max with 64GB ram since day one almost (I had it delivered November 13 2021). Hasn't skipped a beat since, amazing machine! I think at this rate it might be the first macbook I will use for it's whole life cycle (probably another 12-24 months). Will be interesting to see how long apple will update this thing, 5-6-7 years maybe even?
I have an M2 Mac, very much spec'd out. And despite how good the M3 Macs are and how much I love raytracing, it is far from a reason for me to upgrade. Plus, when you have 96 GB of RAM and 12 cores, it's much harder to see issues years down the line.
This is how you keep people into the Apple ecosystem, design a device that is so good that people may just buy a new one when they don't even need it because their older laptop is predicted to last 20+ years.
i torture my m1 air and i often use it with gpu and cpu maxed. out on games and my work flow.its been great.
Got mine after M2 was released, it's a 32Gb with 1Tb of storage for $1.5k, a total bargin. A total beast of a machine. Was a little skeptical about the notch at first, but got used to it.
That's a ridiculous bargain, honestly.
Wallpaper/screensaver link? That flowing thing is too cool at 4:37
Hey there, were you able to find it. I was thinking the same thing!
@@amarzbar_ nope…
Professional developer here - bought the M2 air when it came out two years ago and it's the best laptop I've ever had (and my first apple computer).
It handles all my work easily, the battery lasts so long that some days I just don't charge it, and it can even emulate AAA windows games at playable FPS.
My only complaint is that the colour shows fingerprints quite clearly. If that's my only criticism after 2 years of effectively constant use, it's a pretty good computer.
My 14" M1 Pro has replaced my PC for all tasks except gaming, and is an amazing piece of kit, especially for the cost £1,450 new in 2022. I will be holding onto it for a long time. I do find it heavy compared to my 2019 HP Envy laptop I had before and a lot more cumbersome to carry around the house etc so I also now have a 2017 MacBook 12" that I use for web browsing, document writing and watching videos on the go. If Apple put the premium displays into the MacBook Air, that would be worth the trade off for a lighter laptop.
Only thing that could get me to consider jumping from the M1 Max MBP (aside from software obsolescence) is a CF express card slot. They really did do a lot for this first gen device. I love it
my M1 Pro 14 inch base model is all I could ever ask for the last few years. battery life has dropped a little bit maybe, but overall theres no task or process I cant complete. sometimes large files can get the fans jumping. but we are talking hundreds of gigs sometimes or transfers.
I feel the same I have the M2 14 inch and I love it! I normally kept my MacBooks about 5 years or so I feel like this bad boy is going to be in my life much longer.
I also feel the same way about my iPhones now too I kept my 11 until just the other week and only upgraded because I dropped it in the canal, I can’t imagine getting a new one till at least iPhone 20 or 21
i bought an MBP 16" M2PRO 1TB instead MBP3PRO and i think this is gonna be my laptop for many years
I bought an M1 Macbook air, base spec, for $750 nearly 2 years ago now, and it's holding up great. Still gets the latest MacOS updates, still plenty fast for what I use it for (light tasks/web browsing), and most importantly still has great battery life. Today you can get this great machine for ever cheaper, which is nuts considering how much you are getting.
THIS VIDEO. 110% could not agree more. I bought a used decently spec’d 16” M1 Max, at times I would just wonder “what else do they need to add/upgrade?”, I kind of realized quickly how the next chip iterations would just cater to a smaller niche group of professionals that really need the performance improvement. I smh for some of these M3 review comments saying like “it was time for an upgrade” (this guy was coming from an M1 Max) and another saying “you can feel the difference between M1 and M3”. I remember initially getting the base model M1 MBP with 8GB of RAM back in 2020, that thing ran everything perfectly, the only time it struggled was when I was stacking 60 videos for a multi-cam remote project on Final Cut Pro. Then Apple made the perfect pro laptops a year later.
My biggest gripe with MacBooks in general but especially my 16" M1 Pro is the weight.
For commercially Li Ion batteries a 100Wh only requires about 375g (with more advanced packaging Apple can probably get this lower).
Looking at the rather small cooling system, leads me to the conclusion that the largest contributor to the high weight of this device is the chassis.
Going with a carbon fibre or sacrificing some structural solidity could really improve the real world usability. Laptops break for lot of reasons, snapping in half is pretty rare.
Wait till thundrbolt 5 or usb 5 ports will come to macs. Then you’d definitely like to upgrade
I got the 2020 13’ M1 MacBook Pro… first gen that came out with the chip. Have never had any complains. Part of me wishes I waited for 2021 16’ model for bigger screen, hdmi, magsafe… but still a great machine. Has never let me down (Computer Engineering)
Still on the M1 Macbook pro 13" with a touch bar. Its been holding up great. Only thing I would've done differently is get more hard drive space. I was going to wait to upgrade until we got FaceID or oled displays but my next Macbook pro will probably be my last one because I plan on maxing out the specs
I got one as well the day they were announced and it's still going so strong. I don't see any reason it can't last another 5 years at this point. The leap from my 2017 Intel i7 silica MBP to this is night and day.
I have a 2020 M1 Air 8/512 since 2021, and as a product design student it never got any slower, just incredible
I've been using my Dell for seven years now. 7!
I'm running on Ubuntu and the fans are silent
My windows laptop from 2013 is still kicking! I've given it 16gb of ram and a 512gb ssd to work with and it works great!
Around 3 months ago i bought base model macbook pro 14 with m1 pro, it cost 1400 bucks, and its total beast even though its base model, they are trulyl not aging
If I could get away with a MacBook pro for college I would, only issue is that I'd need to run a fair amount of software in VMs, my mom has an M1 14in and it's been amazing, super nice to use too
Honestly Apple silicon is an interesting thing, I think really the biggest issue with it is it’s just way ahead of software demand, you almost just need software to get more complex and demanding much faster in order for a generational upgrade to even make sense. Maybe now that windows is finally moving more towards arm there will be more incentive to upgrade software
I picked up my first MBP 14 base model at Costco last year for $1500. Solid deal since M2 just came out. I haven't had any issues with it and it's amazing to travel with.
My family has two 16 inch M1 Pro and I have the 14 inch and it has aged amazing. As long as I renew everyone’s Applecare we do not plan on upgrading.
Felt the same way with my M1 Air. It was my first Mac and I got it for college. I’ve since finished my whole degree on that one device and it just never had a hiccup. I can only look at upgrading because of the I/O of the pros honestly.
I can attest to the M1 rave reviews. I have the M1 MacBook Pro, 13 inch. Im a musician (drummer) that uses Logic Pro often to record and send out session files regularly. I bought my MacBook refurbished from Apple June 2021, and I have 95% battery compacity.
Bought the 13" MBP M1 in 2021, been using it up 'til now. Dang, maybe the best purchase i had made. Sadly change back to windows cause of Engineering Software needs though, gave it to my bro and still running smoothly, dang, even the battery life is just crazy good (2-3 days of usage)!
3:30 when you are building / rendering demanding stuff; you can do miracles on custom stationary pc, compared to laptop
I got a base 14 inch pro as a birthday gift a couple years ago, my first Mac and I love it. Still runs like new and it runs basically any game or program perfectly
Got the M1 Max when it came out. Never felt like it couldn’t pull something off or was too slow. Magnificent machine
It's only 2.5 years old... My old PC from 2017 still runs anything you throw at it. And that's 3x times older.
And yeah, performance upgrades are starting to stagnate, but 2.5 years really isn't a long time...
I think it’s probably fine. Late adopters will go M3 or M4 and earlier adopters will jump when there is a significant speed increase or better screen comes along.
The first gen M1 Pro MacBook Pro is still a very good buy today, when you can buy it refurbished for 50% or less of the original purchase. Especially when you can get maxed out RAM and higher storage options.
I got an M1 Max with 4tb of storage in 2022 thanks to travelling and student discounts saving me almost 2k when compared to my home country. It’s an absolute beast and I’ve not even needed to use my desktop with the exception of super low level debugging.
My moms m1 Mac mini is still kickin too
1000% agree, the MBP 16” 2021 is awesome! Outperforms my wife’s 2023 Dell XPS in every aspect!
I’m a lifelong PC user, but m1 gave me a reason to buy a used MacBook Air and eventually an m1 iPad Pro and even an m2 Mac mini because I found them for so cheap on the used market. Great performance, great battery life, and not much heat output. Got the MacBook Air because I don’t have to worry about cleaning out fans and can smoke (not tobacco) around it without worry. Really, my only issue is the fact that you can’t just easily upgrade the RAM or SSD; it’s technically possible, but not realistic lol.
I got a refurbished MBP 16" 16GB w/ 1TB SSD for $1500 last year and I seriously don't think I'd ever need to upgrade it until the SSD eventually gives out a decade from now. I can't name a single hardware flaw and it's the best battery experience I've had with a laptop period (used exclusively Asus and Surface laptops for the previous decade).
I'm mainly a programmer and game dev and I do light video editing and 3D rendering. I have a beefy Windows rig at home but needed a portable option because I'm frequently traveling or not at home most of the day. For the first time, a MacBook was a viable option for my specific workflow and I'm very happy with this. Compile times are fast, and it handles basic 3D like a champ even on battery.
I got the M1 macbook air in 2021 had it for 3 years still going strong still i would say it dose everything i need it to do.
M1 Pro 16inch owner here. I’ll be upgrading to M4 Max. If the M4 in iPad is already showing RTX 2060 GPU performance in that small power envelope, I’m ready for a Mac with moser. gaming laptop performance
If the device does what you need why upgrade. I still use my iPad Air from 2014. Other than short battery life it still does media consumption just fine.
"Still" rocking my 16" M1 Pro. Like you, I simply can't say anything negative about it. Best Apple product I've ever owned. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon. Sure, I have a Windows laptop to play the odd AAA game but it can't touch the M1 Pro in otherwise regular computing--and it's newer and not all that shabby (13th gen i9 + RTX 4070).
I mean I kinda hope and expect a premium device holds up easily three years on, all my devices are and are truckin along just fine through thick or thin
Cs student here. Got the M1 Pro 14 32gb ram, 1tb ssd for $2200 new for school a few months back then. One of the best purchases ever
M1 macbook was my first ever macbook, and I am soooooo impressed by it with the ability and how long the battery last. Everytime i use back my dell work laptop I was like wtf out of battery again
Year and half ago, I swapped i9 to m2 max, best performance jump I ever saw ❤️🔥
Probably I’ll swap this after 5-6 years no sooner.
I’m working as software developer, frontend oriented.
Keeping my '21 14" M1 Max 24 core / 32GB RAM MBP until it no longer gets updates. It does anything I ask of it without complaint.
One of my regrets is not getting the M1 Pro for twice the cost of the air when I had the chance. The current Pro models are just way too expensive.
Still rocking my M1 Pro and it’s still beyond great for what I use it for (development).
I had the worst issue with web pages using too much memory on a 16GB M1 Pro. Having to repeatedly input my login credentials while doing research because the webpage just continued increasing RAM usage until the page was forced to close and reopen while I was researching effectively was hardening my vibes. I upgraded and have never reencountered it.
Also, when the effort is put into porting a game for it, they run like a dream. Baldur’s Gate 3 and Death Stranding run well in low-power mode on an M3 Max, which I could never imagine happening on a Windows gaming laptop.
I have an M1 MBA and honestly it’s just the perfect machine for me. I don’t really do video editing or heavy things but occasionally gaming and honestly it just feels like the perfect fit. It’s been over a year for me and I can’t see myself replacing my laptop for probably another 5 years and even then idk if it would really be worthy for my workflow
Just bought my first MacBook with an M3 ever in my life and it's been a phenomenal experience for everything I do. Now I find myself in the situation where I'm selling all of my other laptops just so I can have this singular one, already sold my gaming laptop for the same price I paid for this, now I just have two more lol.
5:37 I think the real problem is that there are still a lot of apps not using the potential of 120Hz. Correct me if I'm wrong but even Apple's own native apps still barely support 120Hz.
So, yeah, it's nice, I love all the frames I can get for buttery smooth visuals, but there's no way I'm replacing my M1 Pro this early.
The hardware is nice and it will get nicer as the years go by. But it doesn't matter if the software isn't up to par.
The only things I can think of that would interest me in moving on from the M1 Pro MBP would be maybe OLED and bumping the storage and memory up
My 11 year old Mid-2012 MacBook Pro is on its last legs and even getting an M1 Pro MacBook Pro will be light years ahead of what I have. I might keep it for another 11 years should I buy one.
i have my m1 for almost 2 years, but lately i have been noticing that it gets way hotter than it used to, even when doing simple/light tasks. + the battery has been draining really fast since a couple months.
I got a M1 Pro (double binned version) 14 inch 512gb MacBook Pro! It is so good and super fast for everything I do! I play a lot of Minecraft on it and it’s getting usually 150+ FPS in Minecraft! I do some light music production in MuseScore and everything is so so much faster. I upgraded from a 2013 MacBook Pro 13 inch, it was really struggling the past few months and this just blows it out of the atmosphere it’s that fast! I definitely recommend this laptop
I think Macbook Pros getting OLED in 2026/2027 will also be when Apple finally goes touchscreen. That's the only way i think it'd really warrant the upgrade cause like you said the MiniLED is so good as is. But yeah technically the OLED will use less power, have higher contrast, be able to achieve true black on the per pixel level and depending on which version of OLED they're using (look up the improvements of the new QD-OLED over WOLED, let alone compared to LED) it'll have big color accuracy improvements while simultaneously being able to hit the same brightness as MiniLED with much less chance of burn in. But overall yeah M1 series is holding up AMAZINGLY. As someone else here said, even MKBHD who famously upgrades to the newest thing because his time/efficiency is money, hasn't upgraded from his M1 Max laptop. That says it all right there.
Hey Drew,
How did you hang your Apple boxes on your wall? What did you use? I want to do something similar rather than having them collect dust in the closet lol.
Thumb tacks!
I have an m1 base model 13 inch, and it is my first laptop after my school Chromebook. I find it capping out in its capability relatively often, due to the 8 gb of ram and lack of IO. If I had the 14 inch pro, I think I would be just fine with that. the only other issue I have with my laptop which is entirely my fault is that I broke the screen on it a few months ago and it is now essentially a desktop. I think I will get an m3 (m4 pro depending on how soon that rolls out) pro 14 or 16 sometime soon.
My 2017 MacBook is aging like bread left outside, it cant run a web browser without fans ramping up, even though the internals have been cleaned and had fresh thermal paste.
If the HDMI port doubled as a capture card IN port, supporting 4k60 capture, 4 thunderbolt ports, a little better battery, and I’m set. I suppose they COULD do a 17” or 18” with a numerical keypad, that might be okay, but eh. The capture and an additional port would be best. Oh! Some GPU or encoding/decoding enhancements would be greatly appreciated. At least with my M1Max 32/64 still gets super laggy editing an hour long podcast with motion graphics, 3 4k cameras(2 Sony, 1 iphone)
I have a 14" base model. Incredible. 😎
Have changed the display without guarantee though. 😵💫
I have an M1 Mini that is aging equally well. It runs so well that every time I think of upgrading to a different model, I have to really consider if it's worth it. The most likely scenario I can think of that will finally make me upgrade is if I switch to a laptop. Other than that, I can't think of a single reason to replace it. Apple really outdid themselves with the release of the M-series CPUs.
I bought the exact MacBook Pro you have at release (just with 2TB storage) and I’m pretty sure it’s gonna go the same way as my 2018 12.9-inch iPad Pro in terms of just keeping it for years and years because of how well it’s aging. The one downside of it 2.5 years later is I have quite a few cycles on the battery and it doesn’t last as near as long (understandably), but even that is nowhere near as bad as the intel days with the 15-inch 2019 MBP battery life 😂
In December 2023 I upgraded from a M1 13in mbp to a 16in m2 pro with 1tb. The m1 Mac was fine for my needs but 8gb ram weren’t enough since I‘m making music and doing a lot of real time audio stuff and because I’ve improved my production a lot since i got the m1 in 2021. the upgrade was definitely worth it. But if I had the M1 Pro 16in I probably wouldn’t have upgraded. And i could have gotten the m3 pro instead of the m2 pro but 1st it was cheaper and 2nd has worse multicore performance because a lot of DAWs can’t fully utilize all cores. The performance cores yes but not the efficiency cores and since the m3 has 50/50 of those i felt like I was at a loss and went for the m2. I‘m very happy with it and it basically handles everything that I throw at it. Even playing some games via whisky is great :)
I just bought my first Macbook Pro M1 used for a 40% discount. Very well taken care of and looking forward to using it :)
9:12 Honestly when I traveled to Florida and I was carrying around my 16 in M1 Pro MacBook Pro and I brought a 500GB NVMe SSD it was kind of hard to keep it from falling and I almost dropped it on a plane which would have been embarrassing, but I do have a 1TB internal SSD so I do have quite a bit of storage if I do need it but I edit videos on the external NVMe SSD since it's pretty fast being a gen 4 M.2 PCIe SSD
I'm running an M1 and I love being able to Texture, model and edit photos on the go and then sending off those assets to my PC for rendering in apps such as blender.
i got a launch day m1 mbp and port issue asside, i love this laptop, if they had a pro motion screen on an air, i'd upgrade but i'm still cruising
I upgraded from an 9th gen i7 MBP16 to the M2 Pro MBP16 about 10 days back. The difference is night and day. I have found nothing that this does badly in these 10 days, I could count at least 10 that the old one did 1 week in. Don't know how this can be bettered.
I've tried to convince myself multiple times to upgrade to a 16" M3 Pro but my 16" M1 Pro is still so good I can't find a reason. If anything, I'd go for the M1 Max for the GPU cores which you can get for $1600 these days. That Space Black does look nice though.