Maybe I like PVC shrapnel in my chest, legs, and face?!... Gosh cant a guy just enjoy his ambulance ride and visit to the ER? LOL I'm sorry it's not funny but it kinda is at the same time. I get it You would think PVC would work cause it looks to be about the same OD and ID overall. Though if you have a 4 inch Salute dont ya think your gonna wanna use professional equipment at that point? Granite not everyone is using Salutes but even just Max Load 60s. You can hear them from a mile away easily! Now if ur using festival balls I could see it maybe working but even then why go cheap? If it gets stuck the black and the flash powder that's packed in those shells is enough to essentially turn it into a pipe bomb that then is gonna leave your face and body torn up. So I guess my point is always use HDPE. UNLESS Your using Festival Balls then Fiber glass works just fine. Though Fiber Glass over time will bust open on ya. HDPE mortars will burst too actually. If you load about 8 ( 60 Gram ) Shells in a HDPE mortar back to back the mortar itself will over heatsl start to melt your shell will get stuck and or you'll get a low break and someone can easily get hurt. Moral of the story use as professional like things as possible get racks and do 1 shell out of a mortar at a time. That's your safest best bet and your Mortars should last a long time.
neither can Glass , I have a piece of glass in my toe , that only recently part of it came out from years back. they prayed my toed to see if there was something wrong with my toe because it was swelling and turning purple and causing my excruciating pain. They ended up just saying it was a corn , was using corn remover and it started bleeding and skin started peeling , after about a week I felt something sharp and pokey at the top my skin , grabbed tweezers , pulled it out and lo behold . It was a pretty decent sized piece of glass .
My first rack was from Pyroboom and had a canister shell blow in the tube. The HDPE tube bowed and had a hole in it, but it didn't shatter or send any shards. The rack cracked, but held its integrity enough to fire off the rest of the shells without issue. I've ordered two more racks from Pyroboom since. Great company, great customer service.
I was planning to start building a massive mortar rack for next year, initially I just thought PVC should work, but I'm glad I took the 30 seconds to search out what to use for reliability, I may have just saved a lot of peoples lives that will be at my next display. I still plan to have the entire rack secured inside 1" thick plywood walls, at least 2-3' high, but will definitely not go the cheap route on this project now.
Glad I did research first. One of many that thought "well if the dinky cardboard tube is sufficient for a motor tube then pcv should be fine" didnt think of the brittle aspect if a shell goes wrong.
Thanks for the video. Was gonna make a mortar launcher set with scrap PVC. But had to check safety recommendations first. Your video was extremely helpful and educational.
Thanks for the safety vid. No doubt that PVC would be a full tilt fragmentation pipe bomb if the shell went off inside of it. Where can you buy the HDPE pipe at a reasonable price. The premade fireworks tubes are very pricy. I can build my own rack as well. Wow! Just went to your website. Great prices!!! Best that I've found online. Thanks for not being too expensive!
Thank you, I was about to go make some mortar tubes for my firework, I wondered what would be best and cheapest. This is very informational. Great vid!
when HDPE goes it for the most part holds together in shreds and does not travel fare. I had a homemade dago bomb (cylinder shell of flash) fail and just a couple fragments happened. Cardboard blows up as confetti.
Got a few questions: 1.) Where can you buy the HDPE ? 2.) What size do you need? 3.) How long should the tubes be? 4.) What do you plug the ends with? 5.) Do all consumer mortars use the same size tubes?
1) www.pyroboom.com 2) DR11 12" 1.91" ID for consumer fireworks 3) 12" 4) We use wooden plugs 5) No, but they are very close to the same. They probably vary from 1.75" to 1.95" on the inside.
alfred ramirez Haha. We ended up using 4 inch PVC taped in duct tape surrounded by cement in a 5 gallon bucket. Worked out okay. I told the guys blowing off the mortars to get the hell outta there cause they could get hit with shrapnel! The cement worked really well to prevent that though.
Use a 5lb hammer like this one and hit PVC 50 times and hit HDPE 50 times. Use the same hit every time. which one will break? PVC will break. If you can prove me wrong I'll send you $50.00.
"What about steal mortar tubes?" I think this is what you meant. You should not use steel tubes. There are 3 options when shooting mortar shells and I believe HDPE is the best. So you have HDPE, Fiberglass and cardboard as your 3 options. Hope this helps.
I tried using the PVC tube like you suggested. But I didn't know you weren't supposed to put the shell upside down to fire it since it didn't say "top" on it. But I only used a small 1.75" by 5" canister shell, thank God, so the explosion was fairly small and contained to just my porch, bedroom and living room. There were tiny slivers of plastic embedded everywhere, including my face. I wish you would have at least mentioned that PVC pipe is not good to use. After the ambulance arrived, an attorney came that had followed them and wanted your full name and address. The emergency room doctors say I lost the full use of my left hand and left eye and ear. They also found a small hole in my heart. And after all the blood transfusions and operations, the psychiatrist wouldn't stop asking me where I got this misleading info to do such a stupid thing. So please provide your full name and address for my attorney and shrink.
You play with fireworks at your own risk. If you did not take the necessary precautions and safety isuuses into account as well as the fact you were clearly drinking or under the influence of some drug to LOAD A SHELL UPSIDE DOWN, and then clearly STAND NEXT TO THE TUBE instead of backing away to a safe distance thats on you buddy. If your looking for someone to blame. LOOK IN THE MIRROR!
@@therantman4120 "Clearly drinking or under the influence of some drug"?? I don't do either of them, unlike you, LOL. You have no sense of humor (or compassion). Your parents must be bad. Now learn to understand something of humor, SMH.
I've used 80 spec pvc and it's held up nice and have loaded it with double ball shells ,one blew in the tube and the pipe just popped out of the rack ..i had them glued in wood holes at bottom with no wood plug which maybe was the life saver in this case .but still made the switch to hdpe..rookie mistake. Thank God I was lucky nothing else happened when I was using 80 spec pvc
Yes, we have them here at pyroboom.com. We can sell you a bundle of 88 sticks (20ft length) for $2.10 per foot plus tax and you would need to buy the entire bundle. Offer is good until 3/15/22 due to supply chain shortages.
You shouldve made alot of money from this video cuz it saved my life and alot others around me yes a canister shell will blow jus like how that hammer smashed it into pieces and not bad $2.05 a piece for DR11 tubes its always to pay the little price to keep u safe
You can you use a 5" tall consumer canister shell with an HDPE DR11 12" mortar tube. We'd recommend using a mortar rack. No, corrugated HDPE can't be used. Must be smooth wall.
@@PYROBOOM thanks for getting back to me sir , unfortunately HDPE is not available here in my country, but can I use a heavy duty stainless steel half buried with 10mm thickness for a 5 inch coconut shell? Any suggestions on this sir?
I'm not too familiar with steel pipe, but I do know that some people shoot the really large shells (12" or bigger) out of steel pipe. People don't use steel pipe for consumer mortar shells that I know of. The most common material for consumer is HDPE, Fiberglass and cardboard.
PYROBOOMLLC thanks for ur response... i got a hold of some 4 inch mortars and i am having trouble finding hdpe tubes online if u know where i can get them please let me know
I’ve welded a steel rack with 3/32 wall thickness pipe and never had any issues plus if the frame is steel it helps hold it up so it doesn’t tip over on rough ground just need a big enough plate to give it support. The steel is more than strong enough to shoot consumer mortars out of and it can take the heat of you are blowing off a lot of them at a time since the melting point is 2500 degrees Fahrenheit or somewhere around there I’ve put mortars in upside down in it when I was drunk with friends one time it didn’t even crack or expand what so ever it will do the job especially if your shooting off 1.3G fireworks out of it
PVC shards can't be accurately detected by an X-ray. They have to hunt the pieces down by hand with a scalpel. That's enough reason not to use it.
An ER nurse recently told me an MRI can find them.
Maybe I like PVC shrapnel in my chest, legs, and face?!... Gosh cant a guy just enjoy his ambulance ride and visit to the ER? LOL I'm sorry it's not funny but it kinda is at the same time. I get it You would think PVC would work cause it looks to be about the same OD and ID overall. Though if you have a 4 inch Salute dont ya think your gonna wanna use professional equipment at that point? Granite not everyone is using Salutes but even just Max Load 60s. You can hear them from a mile away easily! Now if ur using festival balls I could see it maybe working but even then why go cheap? If it gets stuck the black and the flash powder that's packed in those shells is enough to essentially turn it into a pipe bomb that then is gonna leave your face and body torn up. So I guess my point is always use HDPE. UNLESS Your using Festival Balls then Fiber glass works just fine. Though Fiber Glass over time will bust open on ya. HDPE mortars will burst too actually. If you load about 8 ( 60 Gram ) Shells in a HDPE mortar back to back the mortar itself will over heatsl start to melt your shell will get stuck and or you'll get a low break and someone can easily get hurt. Moral of the story use as professional like things as possible get racks and do 1 shell out of a mortar at a time. That's your safest best bet and your Mortars should last a long time.
neither can Glass , I have a piece of glass in my toe , that only recently part of it came out from years back. they prayed my toed to see if there was something wrong with my toe because it was swelling and turning purple and causing my excruciating pain. They ended up just saying it was a corn , was using corn remover and it started bleeding and skin started peeling , after about a week I felt something sharp and pokey at the top my skin , grabbed tweezers , pulled it out and lo behold . It was a pretty decent sized piece of glass .
Why does that matter ?
@@1240dtorre. The HDPE will deform versus the PVC that will shatter and possibly penetrate your body.
Well I didn't know that one.You may have saved my life.Thanks.
Same here 😄😄 fortunately I wasn’t lazy and did a research.
My first rack was from Pyroboom and had a canister shell blow in the tube. The HDPE tube bowed and had a hole in it, but it didn't shatter or send any shards. The rack cracked, but held its integrity enough to fire off the rest of the shells without issue. I've ordered two more racks from Pyroboom since. Great company, great customer service.
Awesome to hear. Thank you!
I was planning to start building a massive mortar rack for next year, initially I just thought PVC should work, but I'm glad I took the 30 seconds to search out what to use for reliability, I may have just saved a lot of peoples lives that will be at my next display. I still plan to have the entire rack secured inside 1" thick plywood walls, at least 2-3' high, but will definitely not go the cheap route on this project now.
Glad you did some research. HDPE or fiberglass is the way to go.
Glad I did research first. One of many that thought "well if the dinky cardboard tube is sufficient for a motor tube then pcv should be fine" didnt think of the brittle aspect if a shell goes wrong.
Thanks for the video. Was gonna make a mortar launcher set with scrap PVC. But had to check safety recommendations first. Your video was extremely helpful and educational.
where can you get the hdpe tubes? I wanna build a rack but i’m not sure where i can buy those tubes
man i thot this was gonna be a explosion test
Thanks for the safety vid. No doubt that PVC would be a full tilt fragmentation pipe bomb if the shell went off inside of it. Where can you buy the HDPE pipe at a reasonable price. The premade fireworks tubes are very pricy. I can build my own rack as well.
Wow! Just went to your website. Great prices!!! Best that I've found online. Thanks for not being too expensive!
we should have the lowest prices on tubes/shipping for consumer HDPE is the USA. pyroboom.com
Thank you, I was about to go make some mortar tubes for my firework, I wondered what would be best and cheapest. This is very informational. Great vid!
Never use PVC PVC Mortar tube Explosion PVC WILL KILL
when HDPE goes it for the most part holds together in shreds and does not travel fare. I had a homemade dago bomb (cylinder shell of flash) fail and just a couple fragments happened. Cardboard blows up as confetti.
glad i watched this video i was about to get pvc
In short HDPE at a molecular level can flex and not shatter!
Got a few questions:
1.) Where can you buy the HDPE ?
2.) What size do you need?
3.) How long should the tubes be?
4.) What do you plug the ends with?
5.) Do all consumer mortars use the same size tubes?
1) www.pyroboom.com
2) DR11 12" 1.91" ID for consumer fireworks
3) 12"
4) We use wooden plugs
5) No, but they are very close to the same. They probably vary from 1.75" to 1.95" on the inside.
Is HDPE similar to ABS schedule 40?
Vince H nooooo!! That's the worst you could use
alfred ramirez Haha. We ended up using 4 inch PVC taped in duct tape surrounded by cement in a 5 gallon bucket. Worked out okay. I told the guys blowing off the mortars to get the hell outta there cause they could get hit with shrapnel! The cement worked really well to prevent that though.
Thanks for the safety tip!!
He lightly smacked the black one but had to hammer the black one
Use a 5lb hammer like this one and hit PVC 50 times and hit HDPE 50 times. Use the same hit every time. which one will break? PVC will break. If you can prove me wrong I'll send you $50.00.
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69th comment haha
Great video!, thanks for sharing!
what a bought steel morter tubes
"What about steal mortar tubes?" I think this is what you meant. You should not use steel tubes. There are 3 options when shooting mortar shells and I believe HDPE is the best. So you have HDPE, Fiberglass and cardboard as your 3 options. Hope this helps.
I tried using the PVC tube like you suggested. But I didn't know you weren't supposed to put the shell upside down to fire it since it didn't say "top" on it. But I only used a small 1.75" by 5" canister shell, thank God, so the explosion was fairly small and contained to just my porch, bedroom and living room. There were tiny slivers of plastic embedded everywhere, including my face. I wish you would have at least mentioned that PVC pipe is not good to use. After the ambulance arrived, an attorney came that had followed them and wanted your full name and address. The emergency room doctors say I lost the full use of my left hand and left eye and ear. They also found a small hole in my heart. And after all the blood transfusions and operations, the psychiatrist wouldn't stop asking me where I got this misleading info to do such a stupid thing. So please provide your full name and address for my attorney and shrink.
You play with fireworks at your own risk. If you did not take the necessary precautions and safety isuuses into account as well as the fact you were clearly drinking or under the influence of some drug to LOAD A SHELL UPSIDE DOWN, and then clearly STAND NEXT TO THE TUBE instead of backing away to a safe distance thats on you buddy. If your looking for someone to blame. LOOK IN THE MIRROR!
@@therantman4120 /whoosh!
@@therantman4120 "Clearly drinking or under the influence of some drug"?? I don't do either of them, unlike you, LOL. You have no sense of humor (or compassion). Your parents must be bad. Now learn to understand something of humor, SMH.
Listen one eyed bill. No one wants to hear your sob story
@@therantman4120 Get a sense of humor snowflake. LOL /whoosh /whoosh
so I shouldn't try to use metal 2 inch fence post? lol
Greggory Stamm lol
Perfect when you want some shitty projectiles
Bruh u hit the PVC way harder than the hdpe😂😂
Bru try it for yourself, the HDPE tubes can literally be beaten for hours and will never shatter.
For 6in giant panda which tube i should use
PVC company: wooowww buddy you hit that a lot harder
haha
I've used 80 spec pvc and it's held up nice and have loaded it with double ball shells ,one blew in the tube and the pipe just popped out of the rack ..i had them glued in wood holes at bottom with no wood plug which maybe was the life saver in this case .but still made the switch to hdpe..rookie mistake. Thank God I was lucky nothing else happened when I was using 80 spec pvc
Good for you? Until it isn't.
@@jonsalzman909 oh your point of that nonsense?
isn't 80 spec good for 400psi?
Cant find that pipe at any hardware store..so other than overpriced firework stores where do i buy the crap?
This pipe is sold out everywhere. It will be available again in about 10 days.
Why not use steal or metal of some sort I'm not seeing any videos about metal one
The purpose of this video is to show the danger of using PVC vs. HDPE. They make pipe bombs from metal, so we don't recommend it.
Has anyone found full sticks of hdpe for 1.4 canister?
Yes, we have them here at pyroboom.com. We can sell you a bundle of 88 sticks (20ft length) for $2.10 per foot plus tax and you would need to buy the entire bundle. Offer is good until 3/15/22 due to supply chain shortages.
Would Schedule 80 PVC work?
No, Schedule 80 PVC is the pipe in the video. Bad idea.
@@PYROBOOM that definitely isnt SCH 80
that is SCH 40
@@SMALLpoXxXx PVC = PVC and PVC = stupid for using it to launch fireworks
@@PYROBOOM my comment was a question,, not a statement....STUPID!
I'm amazed how you speak to your audience....
You shouldve made alot of money from this video cuz it saved my life and alot others around me yes a canister shell will blow jus like how that hammer smashed it into pieces and not bad $2.05 a piece for DR11 tubes its always to pay the little price to keep u safe
This reminds me, i need more 12" tubes
Yes!
How about high pressure pvc?
Bad idea. You need HDPE, fiberglass or cardboard. no exceptions.
Hi sir can I use a HDPE tube for a 5 inch shell? Is it safe with half buried ? And is HDPE double wall corrugated suitable to use as a launcher?
You can you use a 5" tall consumer canister shell with an HDPE DR11 12" mortar tube. We'd recommend using a mortar rack. No, corrugated HDPE can't be used. Must be smooth wall.
@@PYROBOOM thanks for getting back to me sir , unfortunately HDPE is not available here in my country, but can I use a heavy duty stainless steel half buried with 10mm thickness for a 5 inch coconut shell? Any suggestions on this sir?
@@legitdude6916 If it's a 5" diameter shell and you are not within the USA then I'm sorry, we can't help on this one. Be safe.
What size HDPE do you get?
HDPE DR11 (1.91" ID, 2.4" OD). We actually have several sizes available, but the DR11 1.91" is the one in this video.
what about a steel pipe
I'm not too familiar with steel pipe, but I do know that some people shoot the really large shells (12" or bigger) out of steel pipe. People don't use steel pipe for consumer mortar shells that I know of. The most common material for consumer is HDPE, Fiberglass and cardboard.
PYROBOOMLLC thanks for ur response... i got a hold of some 4 inch mortars and i am having trouble finding hdpe tubes online if u know where i can get them please let me know
www.pyroboom.com we will have a whole lot more in early June.
PYROBOOMLLC o ok koo cuz i checked that website and they are out of stock in 4inch tubes
I’ve welded a steel rack with 3/32 wall thickness pipe and never had any issues plus if the frame is steel it helps hold it up so it doesn’t tip over on rough ground just need a big enough plate to give it support. The steel is more than strong enough to shoot consumer mortars out of and it can take the heat of you are blowing off a lot of them at a time since the melting point is 2500 degrees Fahrenheit or somewhere around there I’ve put mortars in upside down in it when I was drunk with friends one time it didn’t even crack or expand what so ever it will do the job especially if your shooting off 1.3G fireworks out of it
Can I use a steal pipe for mortar shells consumer grade shells
nope. Only HDPE, Fiberglass and cardboard
I welded a steel rack never had any issues
+PYROBOOMLLC
what about aluminum tubes with a wall thickness of 1/16 in? Thanks
Leander Yazzie no, not a good choice. It would be like a pipe bomb. Only use HDPE, fiberglass or cardboard.
+PYROBOOMLLC
alright I'll keep those materials in mind. thanks again
Will schedule 40 work I'm willing to bet it will, just not with my life.
Never use PVC.
@@PYROBOOM, I'll take your word for it
What will work, and what will work safely are two very different things
can you use a dr11 8" tube for the Excalibur?
No
Save your 8" tubes for mines.
Where can i buy the right HDPE in bulk?
BlckPwr 007 www.pyroboom.com
PYROBOOMLLC PYROBOOM shipping is ridiculous
@@boogieman808 yes it is that’s y you make your own....
Can I buy it at Lowe's
Not that I'm aware of. HDPE is a special order.
HDPE is generally found at companies that sell irrigation and gas pipe, usually 20ft minimum orders and come as a 20ft stick
The black pipe is ABS ?
CH!CARCAS TERCERO it’s hdpe not ASB. Only 3 you should ever use is hdpe fiberglass or cardboard.
If you watch the video I don't say a word about ABS. It's HDPE.
Ok thanks
Need help are abs pipes safe or no
ABS Pipe is bad. You need HDPE.
PYROBOOMLLC what about fiber glass
@@kaws3962 If you have a fiberglass fireworks mortar tube, then this is fine.
PYROBOOMLLC yea cause I wanna make a tube for some 3” and the only thing I can get my hands on are fiber glass tubes
What about sch40 and sch80
Fernie Rodriguez sch40 is PVC. So no, you can't use PVC.
They're both PVC if I'm not mistaken but one is built for being pressurized so it should make a difference.
Jonas Hollon No. anything PVC will explode like a bomb. It isn’t worth the lives or injuries that will ensue.
It'll work if you put it in a 5 gallon bucket filled with cement.
I use ABS sch40 and it holds up great 3" 4" Shells
when will you have more in stock?
Plugs will be back in stock in about a week. Thanks!
PYROBOOMLLC how about the motar tubes?
the DR11 are in stock and would ship soon.
PYROBOOMLLC thank you! i will need a 3"
Why the edit dude? Anyhow thanks for the video.
I was wondering the same thing, didn't look like the same piece of PVC he started with the writing on it disappeared.
what about cpvc??
No. Only USE HDPE. Any form of PVC must be avoided.
Wooo Yizers!
What has more thump when the shells leave? Is fiberglass more bang then the hdpe
I'm pretty sure they are the same.
Hit it like a man! Dammit! This was painful to watch until the PVC finally exploded...but good info regardless
He definitely added some muscle when hitting the PVC... Interesting if he hit the other pipe as hard?