Testing Canister Shells & Fusing Techniques to Fire like a Cake
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- After our tests we can confirm that the only inconsistency lies within the time-fuse built into the shell itself. That is out of our control. What IS in our control is the pace at which the shells leave the mortar rack tubes. We started with the 10 second a ft fuse then the 3 second a ft fuse. Then, we tested the 0.03-1.25 second a ft quick fuse and finally the 0.01-0.03 second super quick hobby fuse. I think our favorite pace was definitely the 1.25 second quick fuse since the shells exited the tube at the same pace as a 1/1 cake would fire. Hope this helps and hope you all enjoyed!
After our tests we can confirm that the only inconsistency lies within the time-fuse built into the shell itself. That is out of our control. What IS in our control is the pace at which the shells leave the mortar rack tubes. We started with the 10 second a ft fuse then the 3 second a ft fuse. Then, we tested the 0.03-1.25 second a ft quick fuse and finally the 0.01-0.03 second super quick hobby fuse. I think our favorite pace was definitely the 1.25 second quick fuse since the shells exited the tube at the same pace as a 1/1 cake would fire. Hope this helps and hope you all enjoyed!
DUDE THE LAST SET RAPID FIRE EPIC.............
1200g zipper cake hell yeah
It would be smart if a manufacturer would make a 500 mine cake with 1.75' tubes fib/HD tubes. So it just shot a mine but you can drop you favorite Canerster shells inside. They could also make single shot 1.75' mines. You pop the top of drop in a canister shell put in rack and fuse the them all together. Every shell then has a mine effective.
I kind of loved that last one with the super quick fuse
Do more fuse linking videos with different affects please!
This seems like a good idea for pre-staging a show. I don't like setting up my racks too soon and having them sit in the garage but with this technique you could get all your timings down and run the fuse days in advance and then dump the shells in day of in 30 minutes. Worst case your fuse goes off which is a lot safer than having a rack go off. It also looks like it would be cleaner for taping against fuse jump.
I feel like the last 2 quick fuses would look good on a angled rack. Nice video. ❤️
Good idea my rack will be here soon i can use this style for new year’s
Just imagine using that 0.1 quick fuse on a rack full of those triple break ball shells. My mind can't even fathom.
I didn't do this exact fusing method but I did use the quick fuse to fuse together the last 10 shots of my finale rack a few years ago with quad break shells. It was intense.
This video just solved all of my consumer shell problems. Thanks Cody!
If your going to make videos like this showing people how to do this custom dangerous stuff please start w the basics. Don't pile up shells in your work space. Stabilize your racks and set the the rack the opposite way to the crowd or the safe area , where u were standing. It makes a difference. It only takes once. U can clearly see the rack rocking. I can't believe you didn't put a brace on it after that. These are people's lives at risk. Every pyro thinks he's a pro and then a lady or kid gets hurt at his show
I don't care what you say, every break was low af.
I had done this a couple of years back with a repurposed Excal tube rack and my last pack of quick fuse. The sound of the lift charge alone was enough to sober up the drunk people. Just got a box of fuses, including the four that you used plus three other speeds, so it's on again this NYE.🤙🏽
That’s was friggin awesome. I love that idea. I think I’m going to have to order me some extra tubes an try this. Thanks for the idea Cody.
The more compact your gun powder is the bigger the booom! I make homemade firecrackers with gun powder and the key for it to sound like a salute is making sure it is nicely compacted and tapped up with electrical or duct tape.
This idea will work just fine Awesome guys thank you. DUDE THE LAST SET RAPID FIRE EPIC.............
I can confirm that no mater how the lift powder is contained in the bottom of the tube, be it taped into the shell or just dumped in the tube it will have absolutely no deference in lifting the shell whatsoever! The key here is the width of the shell in the tube, be there not to large of a gap between the tube wall and the shell, no matter how the lift powder is attached or unattached to the shell if the shell is the right size for the tube “meaning it has no more then a 5mm to 7mm gap to the tube wall when loaded, and if the lift powder was correctly weighed for the shell, it will fire.” ✌🏼
I just did my whole show last night the way you showed how to cake fuse mortars. 265 mortars and 63 cakes. I tested a few identical mortars side by side the week before. I did notice about 10-15 ft less in lift. It wasn't too noticeable so I decided to fuse them all cake style. It was worth being able to fire them EXACTLY when you want to with a firing system, but I will pry not be doing it again. HUGE problem is that not all cannisters are the same. I had about 20% of the mortars break EXTREMELY low, like dangerously low shooting crackle pretty close to the spectators. You could masking tape the cannisters to the point of being a tight fit in the tube, but that's way too much time for every mortar. Maybe just a finale rack? It is a neat concept and I did use half fiberglass tubes with no issues.
I was thinking that the whole time watching this video. Lift charges, like any explosive, are dependent upon the pressure exerted against the reaction and will now be a less controlled variable. I agree I wouldn’t do it often
@florida995 I won't ever don't again. Crowd is too close at my place to risk that low of breaks
The sound alone with the last fuse was so very cool:) Loved it Cody and thank you!!
What size hole did you drill? Did you match the fuse to the end of the drill bit?
Firework fuse is 2-3mm thick so definitely no bigger than 4 mm. Gives enough room to slide the fuse in without having to worry about hurting the fuse or creating too big of a hole to fill in with the glue
Hey Cody, I really hope you see this, I wanted to ask you a question about the fusing in this video.
We are looking to do something similar, but had an idea on how to do it without all of the small length fuses, and wanted your opinion on it.
Would it be possible to drill your holes in your tubes, (as you did here), but instead of drilling them at angles, drill them straight across the tube, and then just run one long fuse through each one tube? Then there's no gluing to keep each individual fuse in place, and it's one fuse going all the way through your rack. I'm curious if you think this will work! Please respond, thanks.
Sheesh 👍
I wanna see the super super fast fuse on salute shells
The last silver fuse was what I usually picked up at my usual spot, as well as some cannon fuse. I would have to say that once you make/use quickmatch sticky match, and/or E-Fire you'll find it hard to resist wanting to use it everytime.
Also you could feed electric igniters instead of fuse, I'm doing this for new year, thanks Cody
Works great! At daylight the shells are also very good to see :-)
The audio sounded a lot better in this vid, definitely might try this out.
Great video cody
Dude Cody man I love your channel bud. I been watching for years but FINALLY made it to a firework store in Pahrump for my fireworks for the 4th of July 2022! I’m in Northern Ca so we only are allowed to buy the Safe & Sanes but I live in a community that doesn’t pay attention to them rules haha literally the police will drive by and comment on how nice the fireworks are and actually cheer on their PA’s hahahaha I got a case of Brothers Unmatched 5” cans a case of Cobra box assortment that I won’t get again and a case of Mob Madness 500g cakes. Such an epic time we had! Keep up the good work brother IM HOOKED!
i asked my local fireworks shop how much a fuse costs. i think i recall it was like $30 for a yard. (might be exaggerated) but they arent cheap.
I understand the whole concept, and it is quite impressive. If you fused the shells "like normal" and use the Quick Fuse on top of the rack, you would get the same effect, but you would have to wait about 3 more seconds after the quick fuse is lit. That eliminates the drilling, fusing, and glueing at the bottom of the tubes. Is it worth all that work, or would waiting 3 more seconds give you the same exact effect?
If you're trying to time the effect, it is typically much easier to do with shorter and faster fuse because you are removing potential inconsistency. If you just want a rapid fire finale or fan effect without specific timing, you can just fuse the top of the rack as you would normally. This is most important when timing between shots is a concern, such as in fan sweep or slice effects.
@@mattm3901 I like your thought process Matt. Makes perfect sense. I've been doing manual lighting of fuses for many years, and I have gotten the timing down pretty accurately by using measured length, spacing,and fuse styles. I guess I'm proud of myself because I know the difficulty of the process, and to be able to watch my own builds launch without having to touch any of my boards during a show gives me that adrenaline rush. When I have spectators ask me which type of control system I use, I tell them the old school manual fuse lighting system. They give me that stare of confusion. Ha. I'm still learning new tricks everyday, and I should have been a pyrotechnician, instead of a musician. 🤣 I value someone's opinion/explanation of processes they've adapted Very Much! So thanks for the explanation in detail. 💯💪
Very nice I just added a case of these shells today to my order! Happy I did!
Man i get spoiled at work with a $75,000 firing system
nice one bro...
Wow that’s crazy these neon skies are the shells I’m limited to in Hawaii this year for my budget, and I was like i hope Cody makes another video about them😂 Great video 🔥
I know, cuz. $200 here on da B.I. for dat kit.🤙🏽
@@jackedup5452 yup exactly what my list price is 😂
Same one I get too
Ain’t gonna make any difference in height, still the same amount of powder and same weight of the shell lol if anything it might be better, lift charge doesn’t need to be compressed or compacted to make a bigger lift it all works the same in any case
I was wondering can that be done with leftover fiberglass tubes from mortar shells
what are the dimensions of the rack you guys build, i would like to do this and build it the same way. thanks.
If you drill the holes into the tubes, can you still use them the regular way, or is there a greater chance for them to explode?
Do one with a double lift charge!
Everybody keeps commenting this. Is it just going to make the shell go higher?
@@CodyBPyrotechnics It's definitely going to accelerate up into the sky faster but the time delay fuse before the canister explodes is going to be off. My hypothesis is that it will go up a little bit higher and the burst pattern will be a lot different due to the speed increase. Let's do a Cody B Myth Busters episode and find out!
You may get some additional height as long as the tubes don't blow out. This could be very dangerous.
Damn those shells were $80 at boomland in Missouri on the 3rd when I went up there.
Need to show hooking it up to the cobra or ignite firing systems!!
Where do you get those tubes? I can't seem to find hdpe pipe anywhere
Have you done a test to see what happens if you double load a shell? I think the top would be a really low break
Anyone try the fiberglass tubes the shells come with like this?
Are you not ruining your tubes for future shooting. In other words once you do it this way you can do it any other way
Were nice work ❤💪
Imagine hooking up several 100 shells with that super quick hobby fuse. SO much work for a few seconds of awesomeness.
you are terrible. you have just given me some really bad ideas lol
Review the hydra bomb from elite fireworks!
What did u use for ur tubes? H.D.P.E pipe?
Can you load and fuse artillery shells the same way?
How many uses do you get out of the tubes after drilling?
How would I get the holes in the tubes?! What would I use?
Now you're talkin' cody🔥💣💥💙
I know it's a little riskier and potentially legally ambiguous, but have you thought about taking black powder, like you'd get for a muzzleloader at a gun store, and "boosting" the lift charge to possibly get higher breaks from the cans?
I was thinking the same thing. Like an extra half teaspoon would get it up there.
I thought the same thing. One problem is the internal time fuse of the shells is usually about 2 seconds, translating to about 175-200 ft of height. Lifting the can another 25-100 feet, I think the shell would have already gone off before max height. Guess you should experiment. I remember 2" shell 200 ft safety distance, 3" shell 300ft and so on.
The echos sound like a voice saying sh-t fu-c-
Can you do this with ball shells or just canister
Do you recommend 12 or 15 inch mortor racks?
This is great, I will be using this method!!
OMG is right!! Awesome!!
👍👍👍👊😎
They have a different sound almost
Oh yea making my own cakes now 😁😁
What size bit are u using to put holes in the tubes
Could that threading technique have the same effect if you didn’t cut the fuses one by one? And how big of a hole did he put in the tube and what did he use to make the holes?
He used a drill but I’m not sure the size of the bit. I believe it’s just a bit that’s the same size as your average fuse
Nice love the canisters rapid fire.✨🔆
What size drill bit did you use?
Do you think Arizona will ever legalize aerial fireworks??
It’s possible!
I love neon skies I get two boxes every year
Try that back to back 20s cake😁
I liked the last 2 fuses. They were crazy fast and awesome
Wow. It was an expensive and impressive test. You have the nice tubes, would you recommend this technique with the fiberglass tubes? I've seen you place aluminum on top of tubes to prevent fuse skip, but would you place something on top for weather. Sorry mind is buzzing regarding this technique. Would you make different racks for pacing in your show or would you make each rack as you imagine a cake should be or both?
We would only make this racks if trying to replicate an effect cake such as all red, white and blue or willows. Hope that helps!
@@CodyBPyrotechnics how about using fiberglass tubes with this technique?
The one at the end was a holy cow moment
I'm curious what type of piping so you use and do you put a cap on the bottoms or do you leave the exposed wood?
The tubes have a plug at the bottom of them. These are HDPE tubes. You usually have to buy them online since they aren’t sold in many stores
Hey Cody, I just bought 4 boxes/case for $169.00.
Versus your buying them for $120?
that was so cool
I guess I’m lucky - I can get that same box of neon skies for $74.95 in NewHampster
Too bad I didn't find this video before I loaded 250 tubes, the old fashioned way. Thank you so much. Crossfire a thing of the past. I forgot to mention, when I ordered my premade tubes (250) to go in my custom made racks a few years ago, I ordered the smaller of the two I.D.'s available. I've gotta clean my tubes before use and sometimes remove the outside labels so the shells drop in. Thanks again.🎆🎇
Wow how did I not see this channel earlier before the 4th of 2024. I’m sad. But next year I’m totally doing this.
Black mamba ,Excalibur’s or exterminator shells by megabanger would be better
Nice
I like this! However, I think impractical for me due to the design of my racks. Also, with no main lead line, one failure equals a dead rack. Have you experienced that? I do really like this method. Once the holes were drilled it seems like you’d save time assembling racks. I hate using zip ties, but no other good alternative. This solves that.
Well, this is technically the same thing as a 500g cake even fused the same way. A 500g cake has no main line either, so we just take our chances with that like we would a regular firework cake.
@@CodyBPyrotechnics hmm, yes good point. I’m curious enough that I’ll probably try it. Nice video!
This right here screams AMERICA! Subbed! 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🇺🇸
i`d be awesome, if you make 2x 20shot racks. all connectec, with the slow to fast fuse. Making a mini 40shot show... from slow to fast (finaly)
I have been thinking about suggesting this since I saw 🤔 this NOAB by Fire brand called the 1.75" Fiberglass Pro Rack 9 Shot.
Allright now we need to see varying pace. set up all 20 in the rack with 5 from each fuse slowest to fastest.
AND/OR
Add in some stars or anything to make mine effects with the lift charge
couldn't you accomplish the same thing by running a separate quick fuse all the way down the length of each mortar fuse, and then daisy chaining them together on top with another length of quick fuse?
I did this and I forgot to add a canister and stopped burning at the 5th canister from my 12s rack. 🤦🤦🤦
Hmmmm, going to try to put double and triple the lift charge in a few tubes and see what happens. Either really launch the shells or blow my rack apart.
@CodyBPyrotechnics can you do a video of the blue neon rage shells? That would be awesome!
With my luck I'll have over $1000 dollars of artillery shells down the drain lol
Awesome video guys! Definitely wanna try and make my own cake with the excalibur platinum shells.
You said to watch out for the round car board circles at the bottom of the tubes??? They should not be any since you have removed them at the start of the process when loading the shells. Nice video Guys, I enjoyed it!
Bro that was sick
This opens up opportunities for variations in the display. Multiple racks with variations in the timing within groups in a rack. For the pyro-technician, electrical fusing gives the best control. However, for the occasional technician/pyro-artist, using timing through fusing would provide a great show.
That’s fken sweet dude thanks for uploading this for us! As a pyro head in living in Texas I live through your videos!!
Dat was dope
Ok so I just learned a lot and I’m grateful man that’s awesome to make the shells like a cake when using the quickest fuse is just amazing thanks Cody Man U never disappoint
When the shells go off in the air, it sounds like a pack a punched gun from cod zombies
YEAAAHHHH THAT WAS DOPE
Yo Cody you should try these pretty sick canister shells called Illuminati by suns fireworks there pretty sick
Love the idea, what would happen if you added some stars to the lift charge for a potential mine effect?
I wouldn’t chance it lol
@@CodyBPyrotechnics I'll let You know how it goes in July 😅
How much above the plug do you recommend drilling the holes and what size bit did you use?
Neon skies are pretty nice, btw I just learned something new! I’ll have to do a rack with this technique.
Well I know how I'm building my 50 shot finale rack now.