How To Properly Fuse a 50 shot mortar rack And Shoot It Remotely
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2019
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I loved the huge pop up ad that blocked the last :20 of the video. Other than that, great video. It would be cool to see maybe a gopro next to the box to see the fuses in action.
Its crazy how fast 50 shells are gone. Great video!
yea 100 bucks gone quick.
@@ncvman 100 bucks? Where do you shop? Diablos, locked and loaded etc are 300 bucks for a 24 shell kit at phantom. That’s a 600 dollar fuse using those. Buy one get one let’s call it 300 for that rack.
$600 are you joking? You’re getting ripped off man. You need to buy wholesale. I can get a case of Excalibur or basically any other 60 gram canister shells for $150. That’s $50 for every 24 shells
@@Trophyfish-ph7cn. New to this. Can you give us a vendor name or is it something you buy locally? Thanks!
I shop at superior fireworks. I shop wholesale with them. I only live 2 hours from them so I pick up my order and not pay for shipping. They have awesome deals and great fireworks. I’m glad I found them. People buying from phantom and places like that, which I use to are getting ripped off badly. I will never shop at phantom again or buy retail again
Cool video! I’ve never seen a video like this on prep and fuse work. Nice job!!
Just did this. Worked perfectly. Thanks man
"usually works, everytime"
Similar to Sex Panther
-- Kinda like luck, huh?
And what not lol
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60% of the time, it works everytime
Great tutorial on the 100 shot rack and fusing technique..🎆🎆🎆
I use foil tape over the fuse. It keeps debris off and it’s foil so it makes the burn hotter, making it a more sure ignition.
Thats a great idea I have used also
Foil tape is good, (costs more), the plant sends us out with good (thick) aluminum foil for things like this. Especially on shells that are chained by quickmatch (finale). BUT, it makes for more clean up. And on grass this sucks. :D
@@SDpyro you’re 100% correct. Never had a shell misfire with it but cleaning it up sucks
So you use foil tap to put the fuse together or after you are done fusing together the shells you cover all the mortars with foil tape?
@@tylerwickwire1522 what I usually do is i'll fuse my shells together and then wrap the line of fuse with the foil tape to ensure a hot burn and make siure embers dont set it off.
Great Job, fusing is perfect!!! I prefer to use the 30 second for bigger Shell's, thanks for the demo!!!🤟
Jesus, can the camera guy stop rubbing the freaking mic!!
If you fuse you mainline down the side of the tubes you don't run the risk of getting your mainline cut by a shot when using slower main fuse. Just a notation.
This is great!!! I needed a good lesson to make my shows better!!!!
Coming from a true Fireworks lover and co-owner of the first ever legal fireworks company in Connecticut, that retailed and shot many professional shows for concerts and municipalities, I have to say, you did a great job putting that show together.
10:23 "And that usually works every time..." kinda like saying, "70% of the time, it works every time." Lol
Mike Curtis idk why he said that, those talons don’t fail too much as long as you got the fuse in the notch right on the wire.
@@pyrogee9690 Ya just supported what Mike Curtis was talking about. Big difference between don't fail, and don't fail too much. Just pulling your leg.
60% of the time it works everytime.
@@kohnbonn9744 63.4% of the time, any statistic you see quoted on the internet are made up on the spot.
@@mikecurtis1111 63.5% everytime
Currently sitting here fusing together a pretty giant show. Im all about using green frog tape for this. Have never had anything not ignite. Im pretty strict about how well I get things fused to ensure a good show. I double wrap most joints for tightness and security.
Awesome!! God Bless America 🇺🇸
Another good word of advise if using zip ties DO NOT crank them down as tight as you can! It can cause the fuse to go out
Not unless you broke the fuse its essentially a tube of black powder which is self oxidized so you wont smother it i promise lol
@@213BRANDONP Yes, because they aren't speaking from experience at all.
VERY INTERESTING thank you for the display. Off I go back to the fireworks store.
I would have definitely fused that rack to ignite more like a back and forth "zipper" style pattern.
a that would be nice how would you do it thoe just like a zig zag pattern instead of up and down ??
@@mdrbrown5024 Yup....left to right rather than front to back.
all you would see is a sky full of smoke.
#BBQRando says Saturday Pyro demos kicks off the Pyro Nation Celebration 🍖😆🎆🎇🚀💣
Great video
I'd like to mention to everyone, if you want to toss aside your brand packaged fiberglass tubes I am more than happy to accept them and use them to make home made racks. Don't throw them away
This is a mans man. A true hero.
The tubes are trash too I have documentation of those tubes failing the first time out this whole assembly is a piece of shit you're more than welcome to join my Facebook group this is what we do is evaluating get others better designed equipment this is naughty Rock does not fit the definition of Racket they wouldn't box gas tubes in it many pictures of these exploding like a milk crate the opening is shameful giving this any kind of credit or a donor ation
Good stuff!
My two cents I use Dave’s Uhaul tape to connect my shells and fully cover the finale with several layers of tape over all the rack. No one wants to premature. Then wire each row individually to a cue so I control the speed.
Same here use the magic tape!
This is such a good instructional video!
Very nice, great video!
1st step in fusing a 50 shot rack is toss 2 shots because shells are sold in 12s and 24s,a 48 shot rack makes financial sense
We use black match and tie it, cut black match cover for timing and foil everything before shooting
Well that's one way to do it. Tom, International Fireworks mfg. Douglasville, PA
Personally I feel like using the pink fuse cross wise with the slow fuse going from to back would have made a pretty good finale type get up
Sorry guys... but the results were nothing like I expected - timing was all over the place and the end was anti-climatic. Back to the drawing board fellas.
Wow that's awesome
never leave fuse above mortar, always place aside
That's probably why we didn't see the rest. Because the fuse probably got yanked out. Thanks for the ideas though
Yeah. I don't like the idea of having anything over the top of the tubes when I set stuff up. I mean, theoretically it should burn & fall out of the way but I'd rather go along side instead just to be safe.
We do a small piece of duct tape and two zip ties over the top of that for are fireworks displays. We had 112 cakes, 140 mortars, and 48 Rockets. Only one cake and one rocket didn't go off.
Just from the video I can tell these are pro shells
Nope
God bless the South!
Great video, me person, i love the sky puke. give me as much as i can in the air!!!
I think the tape would cause timing inconsistencies. Sometimes working almost like quickmatch and speeding up the fuse, maybe other times coming off as shells fired and returning the fuse to normal speed.
That's nice. But when you did your fuse junction from the center run you grouped all of the ends together in one direction rather than having the cut ends face the direction of fire.
Scott Suhre - one reason why he taped it was so the center fuse stay in place and keeps burning next to the other two he splits off to. So the center fuse will keep burning and the other is tide in and tape right next to it so it will catch from the center one. As long as you have more then a inch tape together is should light.
@@Mr.Saephan503 Your reply has nothing to do with his comment. He's not referring to the tape. He's referring to where the end of the first row splits off into the next two rows with the gray fuse. He runs them opposite direction of the preferred method. All of the green shell fuses into the gray trunkline fuse connections appeared to be correct, so it is just odd that he went the wrong direction when he split the gray trunkline
Excellent demonstration. Thanks for the vid!👍🏾🧨 New sub.
I started useing zipties but they leave a mess i like to use the uhual tape
Awwww man! I wanted to see the whole show! Nice work though!
That was the whole show....all 50 tubes! Needed to fuse it better than that.
nice bro
Can you tell me how to build the wood racks for a 50 shot like spacing and stuff
I think the only thing I would change would be to use that really wide Masking tape to cover the entire tube to prevent a burning ember fall into an adjoining tube.
@PyroCreations - Question - why don't you fill the first tube in the outside segments?
foil it to cover
WHAT !!!!
Notes: 1. You put your head and torso over loaded guns. BAD form mate.
2. NEVER, connect your ematch terminal before you have placed it on your match (or fuse whatever your want to call it). I realized later that this was just a nichrome wire (NICE shroud on it). But still treat this as an ematch brother. Static CAN set them off and it is "safe" when the wires are shorted. Also from a professional point of view, keep your leads split out and only allow a short amount of copper to extend out past the terminal (I like to loop them to give extra contact possibility). Once I moved to this it was easy to mandate to my crew "No wire plastic should get closer than 3mm to the terminal, and no copper should extend more than 3mm from the terminal". Every show has been 100% (except the rare bad ematch. Most of my 4th of July shows range from 380-400 cues. Yes, it takes longer to do it, but I hate shooting shells post show, and I don't like to request a transport permission from the LAHJ post show. (more paperwork)
I found that wire ties tend to pinch the fuse and keeps it from lighting and I have had a couple of them fall into the tube of a unfired tube and block the launch and blowing up in the tube. I used wire ties for 4 years and always had failed fireworks. I switched to the tough tape masonry 2 years ago and have had no failures since and took half the time to fuse 500 mortars
I use uhaul brown packing tape. Its the best
Never had a single one not fire
@@213BRANDONP
I guess my grip strength is more than yours. I can pinch off Visco with skinny plastic ties. Gorilla tape.
All tape.... easier, faster, and less fail rate.
thanks for putting your next video links OVER YOUR FINAL DISPLAY. Now we can't see it
I'm about to use this method for my first fused show this year, but I have a question. Doesn't this present some potential obstruction for the shells leaving the tubes? I understand the fuse itself may burn up completely, but the zip ties may fall into the tubes and possible create an issue?
I was wondering the same thing
So are all 4 and 5 inch mortar rounds safe to use in these tubes?
Would have been nice to watch the show at the end, but with the "end video thumbnail" feature was enabled by the creator, and all I saw was a thumbnail about a guy wanting to try a Can Cannon, whatever.
were do you get the morters? the tubes i mean..
Did that go off like you planned? I didn't see a single row of one at a time at the start??? Then same pace but 2 at a time. Then 2 at a time but faster paced. What went wrong?
How many times can you fire a shell from a 1.91" fiberglass tube like these?
I have see the zip ties fall off and get wedged between the shell and the wall of the tube and then a tube detonation, I my self do not recommend zip ties I prefer masking tape.
Agreed, not to mention all of that plastic waste, either burning or falling to the ground. No point, either, when good old paper masking tape works just as well and burns up.
Yep, and the tape is cheaper than buying a bunch of zip ties
Yep, my thought exactly also! The wedgie deal you described, the mess of expensive zip ties and the ease of the masking tape. Plus... I make a quick match fuse with masking tape and it burns very, very fast because it traps the fire and it accelerates inside the tube of tape. It looked to me that his length of fusing should have made about 1 minute and 20 seconds of showtime but his rack was done in just at 1 minute. I believe the fuse sped up due to the tape running the entire length of fuse.
If you do this again please try to have one camera fixed on the rack so we can see the correlation between launch and burst. Thank you
Thanks for teaching me how to do it!!
THAT IS A 48 SHOT SIR 😎
Nice work n demo 😎🔥
Why fuse a fanned rack in rows? Wouldn’t you want to go left to right?
Oh ya naysayers? I once made a 5 gallon bucket of bottle rockets and all i needed to light them was one fuse...pshhh im basically a professional
@Nuna Beeznezt ive actually made several in the past. Sometimes itll take a couple lit ones before they simultaneously all light off. So many contained sparks in the bucket and they just self ignite. Ive even put a couple packs of roman candles in with them and ive shoved cannon fuse throughout the bucket with one central wick to ignite. Id say with rockets you wouldnt struggle since they admit alot more sparks. Maybe bend a few wicks to the side to help start them. Forewarning make sure you light that bucket in a field after it rained as the bucket guaranteed will catch fire and melt into a blob. Ive made that mistake before.
Question: why not use just masking tape instead of zip ties? Maybe the pull of each shell lifting?
New York State Needs To Legalize These!!!!!
Would never same wit Boston.. the stupid buildings man
At the end of the initial row, the fuses should be reversed so that the burn leads into the second fuses, wasn't wired that way. Masking tape over the center fuses is fine, but you didn't cover any of the primary fuses, the 'coals' can go into the tubes and light those fuses just as easy. It sounds like there was some fuse jumping there.
Bingo!
Uhaul brown tape is faster for setup and keeps the fuses pushed together during the entire overlap. Also the overlap burn depends on your fastest fuse. Mortar fuse is normal 5 second fuse (.5 seconds per inch) vs green perfect fuse at 15 seconds (1.25 seconds per inch). This setup will cut your time .75 seconds for every mortar assuming you use a consistent 1” overlap to the main fuse. Based on that you may want to move it to a slower main fuse to ensure your timing is correct.
Not everything can be made like "5 minute crafts"
Whats everyone's thoughts on drilling a hole at the base of the tube and running your fuse through it, like a cake is fused???Could give you more accurate timing I feel. Haven't seen anyone do it, but its how the single shot tubes are fused, along with everything else I suppose
That's a whole lot of uneccessary labor lol but hey you should go for it lol. Make sure you record and upload it 👍
I did a 100 rack this year of excaliburs all 100 on fast fuse it was awesome
Cool. Post The Video So all of us Pyro Enthusiast can enjoy.
Question for anyone that's bought this mortar rack: would it still be a pretty good show if I set it up to where the mortars went off one at a time like in a zig zag formation with the fuses instead of the way he set it up to where they were rigged to go off 2 or 3 mortars at a time?
But why zig zag why not one row at a time i mean yea you can but you will use a lot more fuse
OH Great I learned how to launch mortars on UA-cam
Whats next? How to Skydive?
nah, muff diving is more fun, done both
I would suggest using tin foil around the top of the guns and fuse instead of the tape so nothing prematurely ignight's.
I put 2 Talons in parallel on my racks.
You'd think a guy who makes a video about this would know how to do it. The firing order was inconsistent as hell. You constantly had 3 shells going off at once. That's just a waste in my opinion. Steady fire one after the other is the way you wanna wire these. leave about 3 to 4 inches of perfect fuse between each shell. Maybe introduce some fast fuse at the very end for the last 5.
Steve Cobain amen
I think his timing worked out just fine. A 50-shot rack firing one shell at a time is just plain boring unless you also have cakes going off. It would be different if he was doing shell demos.
Looked fine to me
@@gjam5204 That was way way too fast. He mentioned sky vomit...yeah, that was sky vomit. Couldn't appreciate each mortar as it exploded because the next was stepping on the one that had just fired.
@@TheJustgetitdone330 It all depends on what you want to see. This wasn't a shell demo. If you thought this was sky puke, then I'm not sure what you're looking for when firing shells. This is nothing compared to the sky puke some people send up. You can't put on shows with one shell firing at a time. The audience would laugh or boo you off the shoot site. LOL
Doesn’t that leave A LOT of left over plastic everywhere? I’m sure the plastic doesn’t just burn up.
If you're referring to the zip ties yes, they will be all over with all the other shrapnel. You simply sweep it up or don't...whatever.
Don't use zip ties. Too many ways for things to fail. Use foil tape.
I tried zip ties last show. 6 shells and 8 cakes didn't go. Using masking tape the most I've ever had not go is one shell and one cake
Same here, fuse would burn out where zip ties were tightened. Half the show was a bust. Had to retape and re lite. Masking tape works best.
I've been using zip ties for years and have never had a failure. The trick is to run your fuse in the direction of the burn...now watch me jinx myself for this year lol.
quick fuse and multiple shells zip tied together. lol works everytimes onna 50 shot. slower fuse i can see going out if its to tight. i personally like to send them up all at once.
Using zip ties is not a smart thing to do. 1) they can smolder long after the rack is spent, causing secondary unintentional ignitions of other pyrotechnics or grass etc. 2) study the basics of how a fuse works. I doing so you will find that using Uhaul packaging tape is the best route. Not only is it sticky as hell but fuse that is shrouded creates more heat ensuring the next fuse will light.
was the cameraman chewing on the mic?
Do you have problems if the zip ties fall in the tube?
where do I buy fuses?
www.pyrocreations.com/Waterproof-Visco-Cannon-Fuse-American
masking tape works better less time, less clean up..
Do you clean the carbon buildup in each tube after a few firings or do you clean them every time thy're used?? Would the mortar tube's I get with the excalibers Mortar pack work well enough? They do have really thick bases on the tubes and the upper part is also much thicker then fiberglass tubes I've seen, and I have reused them as single shots many times. I just need to clean the carbon buildup so the shells/canisters go all the way to the bottom of the tube. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks from a fellow Pyro. ;)
We clean our mortar tubes to remove paper debris in the tube. Not for Carbon buildup. Motars need to fit solidly on the bottom of the tube or your going to get a "low lift" and an explosion close to you. I am a licensed pro and have never cleaned a tube for "carbon buildup".
@@johncosgrove2738 Appreciate you taking the time educate!
What happened to the last 10 coin up simultaneously with the pink fuse??
ShaolinTemple noticed that. Not sure. Somehow they prematurely ignited.
Probably could use the super fast fuse on the outer ones and get them to light simultaneously -
50 shot rack far out!
you have a fan rack with no fan effect I would have fused them a crossed the rack to fill the sky up and get the fan effect
Extreme Shells!?
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That wasn't bad at all .
I use the regular electric match I never use igniters they are total failures and ugly as hell plus I never use zip ties I use brown packing tape just like dave displayfireworks 1 uses in his videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those talons suck. Had a bad show last year because of faulty talons. Igniters all the way now.
That is a crap rack it will blow apart if you have a failure
a constant burn time on the fuse sure doesnt translate to your launch rate...
Yep, my thought exactly! I make a quick match fuse with masking tape and it burns very, very fast because it traps the fire and it accelerates inside the tube of tape. It looked to me that his length of fusing should have made about 1 minute and 20 seconds of showtime but his rack was done in just at 1 minute. I believe the fuse sped up with due to the tape.
The neverending messing with the microphone 😖
Who says this is the proper way to fuse mortars together. The guy making the video. You can fuse however the hell you want.
Yes james you can fuse it any way you jolly well please. This is a instructional video for those who might find it informative. Feel free to fuse your rack how you like and totally skip my free informative video. it is America! God bless
He spanked you!!! He did say a few times this is how he does it. Pay attention
@@pyrocreations1 how long do you think would all 50 mortars take to shoot off if I fused them where they only shot off one mortar at a time?
Does anyone have experience with pvc barrels?
NEVER-NEVER-NEVER USE PVC!
PVC plastic pipe is too rigid and can explode/shatter with the launch charge sending plastic shrapnel into the audience and perhaps have a low to the ground effect detonation.
Chuck Fyock Okay that’s what I needed to know. I will just stay with the paper barrels that come with the shells. I appreciate the rapid response!
Chuck Fyock I’m also thinking that thin wall metal fence pipe might work if the dimensions meet the shot size without any restrictions or binding. There was one example that uses fiberglass tubing that worked well.
@@benhudman7911
I'd only use products designed for the specific firework I'm using. Cardboard tubes are only designed for short term use but they're ok to use over again as long as they aren't showing signs of wear.
Fiber or HDPE tubes are the way to go if you're wanting to build your own long term mortar racks.
Btw, I'm on a pro pyro crew...stay safe my friend!
Don't want to commemorate the 4th with a trip to the hospital.
Chuck Fyock I have tried to use my old tubes but I’ve noticed deformation and swelling. ( left outside was overnight). I want to put together a better rack setup that for repeatability. Thank you for your input. I load bombs on B52’s and our bombs are much safer to play with than mortar shots🙂
Nice video
Why so big & heavy ?
Why 50 when all sleeves are sold in 24s for the most part ?
Why fiberglass tubes ...HDPE is the safest class C or B ?
Where is the Pyro Creations reality blueprints & ground thoughts ... I will not build racks that big 24 max ... Fireworks has one thing that nobody realizes it's a lot of physical labor at the end of the night at a show the last thing you want to be doing is picking up a heavy oversized rack that is cumbersome makes no sense also if I want to dump my tubes out because they're accumulating too much paper discs I'd rather have to pick up 24 tubes or less than 24 tubes if they're loose in the rack to dump it out then 50 ...
U want 48-50 shots not wanting help to move racks build in 24's set 2 racks together hell you can leave a 10 in 12 inch space between them for safety in case you get a blowout .. I still run my shoots with no more than 24's still use a hand truck a.k.a 2 wheel dolly to make it easier on my back there's No award in a firework show for the guy who can pick up the heaviest objects hahaha NO
Fireworks are hard enough don't engineer yourself with big racks ... Most of the time I see guys with big racks for Class C they haven't done Class B you find me one person who likes setting up a Class B show moving all the tubes or racks ...??
Secondly when you build your racks in 24s figuring out how much product you need is way easier case of shells 24 × 4sleeves = 4 racks done with it ... That alone is reason enough ... want 12 shots to a station in ur show?? with the 24 rack just out less in it's still more stable than a 12 rack my theory on a 24 rack works all angles had a 30 rack when I started this addiction I was either leaving the show with shells or buying another sleeve maybe that's why all these manufacturers go over under the 24 wow wouldn't that be a huge shock right !?!!? Someone looking to increase sales this way SHOCKER believe it cuz I guarantee it was a huge Factor thought follow the $$$ you find your answers 95% of the time
Go for the safest tubes possible you ever seen a 4-in fiberglass tube blowout?? I did July4th 2017 it was part of the finale my buddy lighting the chains is still talking about it to this day ... He is scared of fiberglass tubes ... I avoid them anyway possible ... Fireworks are not fun when someone gets hurt all the focus goes there everything else goes out the window ...
Building in smaller devices also has another safety Factor if I get a blowout I only have to worry about 11 other shots (not 50 piled on top of each other) two rows of 12 with that much spacing with class C I don't have to worry about it ... safety comes first in Fireworks
“ It really just comes down to preference. Most people use zip ties though and they are the usually more effective than only tape.”
. Actually it does not come down to preference. There’s a right way and there was a wrong way. There’s a safe way and there was a not so safe way. Anyone that has enough experience using plastic zip ties can tell you this. I can’t tell you how many sets I’ve walked up on and I’ve been baffled by the number of basic errors by seasoned displayed operators
Never use plastic zip ties. Ever. They've been known to catch, smolder and melt. U-Haul Packaging tape only. - Display Operator
Idk man, Codybpyrotechnics is one of the largest Pyro UA-camrs out there and he is also a display operator. Every Mortar rack he’s lit uses zip ties.
It really just comes down to preference. Most people use zip ties though and they are the usually more effective than only tape.
HOLY SHIT STOP RUBBING THE FUCKING MICROPHONE