Only Took 6 Years For Shill Media To Admit We Are Right
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- The American comics industry in in trouble heading into 2024. Not surprisingly, the shill media are now willing to admit we are right about the downturn of DC and Marvel Comics. And its enormous negative impacts on the direct market and indie comics publishers. Shill media like Heidi McDonald of the Comics Beat are even conceding these problems started at least 4 years ago. Wes talks about why the shill media can no longer ignore the issues but are still afraid to talk about the details. It only tool 6 years for shill media to admit we are right.
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Maybe they should make comics that appeal to adolescent males. There is literally nothing for the adolescent male demographic anymore.
Not even boy scouts!
The hate that demographic, they'd rather go bankrupt.
Hey, what a novel idea! 😁 (I'm being sarcastic, of course!)
Sure there is! There is So much gaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!
@@themobseatI honestly find it shocking how many Caucasians in comics think it's 'progressive' to hate themselves.
Why do people continue to give Heidi MacDonald power?
She's s sniveling snake that knows how to navigate her victim status' power.
The industry is filled to the brim with beta males, that's the only way it got this bad.
She has the right politics.
It's an in-crowd.
Imagine a 60yo woman thinking she has any influence in an industry that mostly caters to men.
Not all, but plenty of the most of the popular writers of all time led very complex and full lives. JRR Tolkien saw arguably the worst battle in human history at the Somme, JK Rowling was a homeless single mother when she wrote the first Harry Potter book, which was initially rejected. Grisham was a successful attorney himself before he published crime novels. While there are people like George RR Martin who are just obsessive nerds, the current crop of "writers" tend to be either trust fund kids with connections, or mentally-ill people with fashionable identities, or both. These terminally online weirdos don't even like comics, they are not obsessive nerds and they don't have any life experience, it's not possible for them to be good writers and they need to be pushed out of the space.
I am a liberal, lifelong - not a leftie, today's leftism mystifies me, but I am a liberal. And I absolutely loath today's mainstream comics. The political scorekeeping, race/gender/sexuality swapping, and switching out superhero adventure for young adult coming of age stories. Everything in today's comics is artificial - the characters, the art, and most of all, the writing - EVERYTHING is forced into a preordained box; if it doesn't fit, break it and make it fit. This is a recipe for terrible story telling, which is what we have today. I was BORN a comic book fan, no exaggeration - my older brothers were comic book readers, so I was surrounded by comics since the day my folks brought me home, pink and screaming, from the hospital in 1962. I was born the same year as Spider-Man, grew up with him - Peter Parker wasn't just a character to me, he was my role model, and my friend, and if that sounds corny, so be it. I am a lifelong long comics fan... and I haven't bought a mainstream comic book in a few years. I don't celebrate that, I don't cheer the demise of Marvel and DC, I mourn it. I am a lifelong comics reader, a lifelong liberal, and I can't stand today's comic books. And that sucks so bad. Maybe things will change in time to keep the industry from burning down entirely. I'll be watching.
Well said 👆
I'm a conservative and agree with everything you said about the comics industry and can relate. See? They want us to hate each other and point out our differences, but when it comes down to the comics we love, we have common ground. We should be united in our love for our favorite superhero comics instead of using the medium to try to divide us. I hope Marvel and DC will get back to hiring creators who respect and love the characters as we do, who respect continuity, and who just want to tell fun, action-packed stories with good drama.
The definition of a 'liberal': A fiscally conservative group think Democrat (New Labor or whatever), with an environmentalist extremest, health food nuttiness, female gender, and minority superiority complex (for distraction purposes). To actually be 'left' one would have a pro-broadly share the economy philosophical outlook, which contrary to popular belief, and contrary to what the establishment wants you to believe, the liberals (or whatever counterpart) definitely do not have in the least.
Sounds like you're just a comic fan to me. I say that being more libertarian. I see the comic geek first. The politics secondary. Comics brings people like us together.
The extremes of anything are usually vile. Extreme right and Extreme left have different starting points, end the same- atrocious!
I used to spend $150 - $200 a month on comics. I stopped buying comics years ago when Superman renounced his U.S. citizenship.
The comic industry lost tens of thousands of dollars in lost sales from me alone.
Between trades, deluxes, omnis, comics I probably spent a few grand a year in the day.
I have probably spent that the last 5 6 years total.
Superman renounced his citizenship? Jesus!
@@seminolewind158 Just wait until they make Superman gay.
Yeah my brother was the same way. He just stopped buying comics at all around 2000 because they just were not worth it
If they can't attract top talent anymore (which they can't), the the Big 2 need strong editors like they had before the 2000s, strict character bibles, strict contracts regulating the work expectations and personal conduct of the writers/artists. There used to be editors who would say: "This character wouldn't do that. Change it, "Our company doesn't weigh in on politics. Rewrite it." "You may want a pudgy superhero who happens to look like you but that doesn't fly here. Redraw them and make them handsome/beautiful." "Oh, you refuse? You're fired for cause, and you will never work here again." But the key is getting good editors with deep knowledge of the characters and the balls to be confrontational, but that may asking for too much. I really think Mark Millar would be a good EIC but why would he want to babysit a bunch of children?
It's like having a manager or supervisor that doesn't want to do their job because they're scared they can't be friends with their staff anymore. It's a recipe for disaster if the leader in charge can't ever say no.
We are all at the point where no one really cares
Bingo
It's not just modern writers tho, The constant stram events & relaunches have all led to the decline and fans leaving in droves..
Yeah its this combined storm of misery from multiple things that each were VERY EASILY AVOIDABLE. Going away from spinracks and magazine stands. Going full work. Doing constant reboots. Focusing on big events. Overcharging for lame content. Driving away good writers. Focusing on collectors instead of fans. Hiring based on identity and sexuality rather than talent and interest. Its a huge number of combined stupidity and failure that inevitably destroys a business.
And when they had a golden opportunity, a real chance to save their industry when comic book movies were huge, but instead were doing girl Thor and gay Superman and none of the groups or characters looked ANYTHING like they were in the movies. Its like the big two are being run by people intentionally trying to destroy their industry.
Modern writers break the mold and make the impossible possible. They somehow suck and blow at the same time.
Modern writers should sell vacuum cleaners and fans at a retail outlet.
@@aqdrobert They'd mess even that up.
The Media are friggin slow.
The public are the trendsetters; the public are the culture and this is how it should be.
Corporations should never have been entrusted with managing and directing society, and we're seeing that fact playing out in real-time across most sectors of the economy.
Humanity needs to get back to independence and do for itself again.
Seems like Marvel and DC thought they were “too big to fail” and did not appreciate their workers. Can’t blame the great writers for wanting more and dumping the “Big 2.”
Another beautifully blunt, direct, succinct explanation of how Marvel and DC destroyed the American superhero comics industry at a time when movies were giving them an unprecedented opportunity to truly expand their audience. And remember, the superhero niche was modern Marvel and DC's specialty; while manga covers an enormous range of genres, Marvel and DC had become 99% about "punch the bad guy in the mouth" superhero stories. They didn't just forget that, that actively sneered at that genre and at the people who supported it. As Tony Stark said in the MCU "Not a good plan."
I remember in portal 2 where Glados calls Wheatley a tumor since he was created to generate bad ideas.
This statement is what the comic industry became, a moronic collective that generates bad ideas and the M-SHE-U effect is their tumor.
You're npt far from the truth. They were recruited to destroy history, so LARPers playing The Iluminatti could pretend to be shaping the world over the rubble of the old.
Modern writers suck because of the woke frame of reference that they have to write with. Now all I watch is 20th century TV shows and movies. I'm only 48 but I already feel like I don't belong in this era
Roughly around 2014 when GoTG came out as a movie was when Bendis was on everything. This is when they started trying to make the comics more like the move characters. By 2016 with Marvel Now!, everything was in full force with a full staff of poor writers and bad artists. This was also peak time for Marvel trying to phase out characters they didn’t have movie rights to. Remember when they wanted to replace the X-men with the Inhumans? You can point to the… let’s call them stories and values being told as a huge loss in comics but the corporate push for comics to align with movies is just as big a factor.
We will always have back issues 😢
I gave up collecting comics about 8 to 10 years ago. I would spend anywhere from 40 to 80 dollars a week on my books. I collected everything Marvel & some DC. I lost interest when they
started to replace classic characters. They can't make NEW characters because nobody would buy it or even care. So to make people interested or care you have to replace them.
My bridge is burned to buying new comics. My only interest is classic Amazing Spider-Man now. Everything else will never see a dollar of mine.
Rusty
You don't need to sign your comments. Your name is at the top of your comment.
Heidi MacDonald had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm she had cancel pigs
E-I-E-I-O
Im starting to think the whole goal of ESG, DEI in comics and entertainment is to get people to stop caring about American culture. At least old school American culture before the ESG mandates.
Id say the downfall really started in 2012 or maybe 2008. But the point, is that the people in charge of entertainment today have a problem with the culture that most people enjoy and have embraced in the past. And that now they are doing everything they can to destroy what we love to create a new standard in entertainment.
This is why the only real freedom is with the indies.
Support online comic artists who enjoy writing fun stories.
2014 actually
I agree. * puts on tinfoil hat *
The decisions that have been made, in my mind, can only be explained as intentionally breaking down some of the biggest powerhouses of American culture. Hollywood, comics, Disney... to make way for something else. Or to demoralize. What has happened to the American entertainment industry is fucking wild.
That's literally progressivism. Literally. Yes entertainment is progressive.
@@mastersheff37It's a really good way to usher in a world government isn't it? When you've got a bunch of sad demoralized people who've had literally everything they fought for for years and years stripped from them it's really easy to control them.
You’re going to see this across the board with all these people in all these industries, they’ll all start claiming they weren’t doing all this stuff they’ve been doing for the last 8 years.
6 years is still too long for the lesson to get it into their heads...
A perfect example of the drop in quality is Tee Franklin inserting herself as Vixen's girlfriend when Vixen miraculously became homosexual with no explanation. Couple this with artwork worse than most Saturday morning cartoons and it's a shocker people didn't flock to this. While the conversation is mostly about the poor quality of writing and story lines, the drop in art is glaring. I've seen comics that look like they were drawn by "artists" who got fired from Steven Universe
You're right about the drop in quality of the art. There are so many artists now who don't bother drawing detailed backgrounds, just the boxy generic shit off of google sketchup, barely any of them know how to layout exciting pages or choreograph fight scenes, but if you want characters that sit around a table eating pizza then they are great.
The bigger problem is DC and Marvel are very small parts of much larger companies. So, there’s less accountability for their lack of productivity. Unless they take huge losses. They'll continue down this path. They're too far into now to do an about face. Honestly, i think it all needs to fail. So, something better can rise up from the ashes.
"It's time for the kids to go sit at the kiddie table..."
About time somebody said it!
J Jonah Jameson: Robbie, modern Hollywood is a MENACE.
Robbie: I could have written that story YEARS ago.
Jameson: Time flies when I am miserable. Where's Parker? I want to insult him for LULZ.
Bruh!!!..u are on point..Old school writers need to start a Writers School to teach these Writers...indeed
Absolutely amazing monologue and so true. The fact that we can’t even express these things out aloud in some circles would make Orwell roll in his grave.
It's not really about the timeframe, it's that the free meals are running out.
Just to add a layer of context to the struggling Byrne/Claremont sales. The reprint editions of their X-Men run have been out of print for years. They finally released new editions of Proteus and Pheonix this past September. X-Men:Hidden Years has been out of print for 12 years.
This week I got my reprint of the second (80ties) West-Coast Avengers Epic Collection trade ("Lost in space-time" by Englehart/Milgrom). ❤ Happly reading it. 😁😉
@@Frekiwolf nice!
The biggest problem they have now is that their pool of talent has been poisoned. They need to purge these studios, but they can't because these jokers will cry they're being descriminated against and try to sabotage the company.
Just show the sales numbers. You can't call it discrimination if the company isn't making money and everything has been done to make accommodations for these people. Show their tweets where they call the customers mean names.The hardest part would be the legal fees and paying the settlement.
Guilty MacDonald is literally rotting before our eyes...Karma sucks sometimes.
Wes nails it here. Can we all share this on social media!
I will say this as a fairly new shop owner ( and just my experience, which may not mirror other places ) - yes, the writing is different and while not everyone's cup of tea, modern comic sales at my shop are solid. However what I've noticed is the lack of kids buying books, and who can blame them when it's 4-8 dollars an issue to read? I remember as young as 10 going down to the local shop and seeing other kids my age grabbing books to bring home. That doesn't happen here. I do everything I can to promote younger kids to come in. I have an art class for kids interested in becoming comic book artists taught by a retired former comic book artist. I have a kids comics section for young readers but again, it's the parents bringing their kids over to buy them because they're not priced accordingly. If we're not building the new generation of readers up, who's going to carry the torch for us after we are dead and gone? This is the reason why I worry about the future of this business over anything else politically motivated.
1) As John McClain once said, "Welcome to the party, pal!"
2) No. They don't get to act like they've been on the same side as us the whole time.
Don’t let them forget. Call them out whenever appropriate. On X, at conventions, in their own comments sections and forum posts. They’ll cry “harassment,” but isn’t Heidi McDonald a “public figure?” A journalist? Let them hear you.
@@TheShoguneagleI’m voting with my wallet. Oh, are you writing or drawing garbage? That’ll be a big old NOPE from me.
I’m not gonna harass people online or at conventions. That’ll give them what they want, and make them a martyr.
@@keithoneil9894voting with your wallet did nothing to sway these people. And why should they be allowed to exempt themselves from ridicule and disdain after everything they put other people through? I don’t accept his limp-wristed, quarter-apology. He’s a public figure; he can deal with it.
Hopefully at rock bottom we can all start going up. Also the fact that we can't say what's causing the quality issues, but can only say there is a quality issue in general, shows they are trying to address the problem without giving people who called them out for it originally any satisfaction.
As much as I would like to see the American comic book industry get out of this and survive, I feel that betting on the negative would be a better overall bet because the industry isn't as strong and healthy to pick itself up as I'd like to believe..........
Let's do another Green Lantern series like Adams did in the early 70s..
I called it
There's a certain level of idiocy that comes with looking at American super hero stories and thinking that the Justice League gets a new plant for their headquarters and have to debate what pronouns to use for it is a good story then get angry when it doesn't sell.
Sidebar: Anyone remember the DC title "Young Superheroes in Love"?
I'm here cause pf Ya Boi Zack.
Claremont/Byrne sales...
Sooo I should be shocked that two generations of readers flooded with retcon after monsterously bad storyline arent after racee and gender swap going back to the classics?
Why would they knowing how it turns out?
EDIT "Arent interested in going back to the classics after all the race/gender swaps"
I came back from the dark for HOX/POX. It was so good to me that during covid i went back and collected uncanny from 100-300 including all 1st appearances of “key” characters and within a year they fucked that whole storyline up so i bounced at inferno. Good luck comics, you were fun.
I refused spend a single penny in this Krakoa Era.
Dude, I literally did the same thing! I was out of comics for a few years and hox/pox brought me back. Then by the time inferno came I was done again. Such a shame. I was so hyped the X-men were gonna shine again :-(
For me, it’s the prices of individual issues. They’ve been ridiculous for years. I’ll occasionally still buy graphic novels if the price is right but even then, half the time I buy anything modern day, I’m disappointed in the story. Classic stuff is what I’m leaning more and more on buying.
It's not just crap. It's that they demand so much for the crap they produce. It's not just the stories or art. I've noticed misspellings and grammatical errors in modern comics.
I'm just waiting for the succumbing to age genre story of all these queer icon super heroes in their 40's broke and alone.
Great video Wes. It's depressing to see what these knuckleheads have done to American Comics.
Savage....Savage take down. Well done, Wes. I'm in the liberal side of things and heartily agree with every single call out made as a problem. Let's see if you rocked the boat for long enough and hard enough for them to do something about it. It's clear they HAD to hear it by now...maybe they don't want to listen but they certainly HEAR it now.
The people at Glenn's Comic Palace are the actual customers. Older men with money to spend. But comic pros want hipsters from New York as customers north America wide
Another excellent video Wes! Glad you explained why we have no reliable sales numbers when it comes to comic shops.
The modern comics industry exists largely because it's a cheap way to fail. The goal of management is not as much to have a successful print run, but to develop a stable of characters they can then license out to other media and bring in the passive income. A 4-episode miniseries is just a less-expensive way to introduce new characters and concepts that are, as history has shown, likely to fail. If it does succeed, that money can be recouped as part of the pre-production budget for a film or TV adaptation, acting as a storyboard draft.
The idea of producing comics for the sake of producing comics, to the extent it still exists, has shifted to the indies, which are themselves being shifted to that same IP monetization paradigm.
Both the industry and the consumer base for western comic books suck.
I just recently kicked comics out of my store after a lacklust five years.
BLUF/TLDR: the industry would cause our store monetary damages and the customers would insult us on the other end.
The industry was too concerned with stupid decisions: putting politics into their work, attacking customers on social media, attacking their tradition demographic (white males), crappy service to the local store, crappy discounts tot he local store, crappy shipping costs to the local store, and even when they started seeing the writing on the wall...they STILL made stupid decisions. Marvel is out because of the politics. DC is out because they switched to Lunar Distro which suddenly changed its policy to $500 a month to stock ONLY DC related comics, so if you were in a small area or an area where comics have never truly been able to get a foothold...welp...at this point you as the small store NEVER will. The manga sales in our store when compared to comics also was the driving nail in the coffin along with our more popular sales (games and accessories).
On the other end, the customers are trash. Very demanding and a lack of sympathy (they didn't care it was becoming harder to stock certain things). They didn't care throughout COVID as we suffered, and some would guilt trip us for not being government lapdogs (choosing to not wear the masks). Then when we finally got rid of comics (after lackluster sales), I swear, we have received more reviews to our store from pissed off customers (for not having comics) than we ever did by comic book readers when we had comics (both good and bad). Sorry to say this (as a comic read myself) but our "community" is trash. I am against the gender and sexual politics happening, but I am also against the toxic self-righteous bullshit too.
Needless to say, I have dumped comic books for good and not looking back.
What's funny is that these "people" can only think of what relates to their lives to be put into a comic, hence all the coffee shops and slice of life, and omit what makes a superhero comic interesting - the superheroics.
Which is what makes me jump to Invincible again and how the most interesting part of the cartoon's season 1 run is Mark Grayson's open rejection and not wanting to be superhero thanks to his shitty slice of life break up with Amber, only for him to unknowingly showcase what it is to be a hero by defying his Dad, Nolan, into conquering Earth, even if it cost him his life.
I agree with you...Last time I was excited to read a comic book series was Batman & Joker Deadly Duo...not long ago at all. The problem is, those moments are now few and far between. The fact that I had to drop the Batman flagship comic was the death knell for me with the Big Two.
I would recommend reading dustbelief comic
I write and draw a superhero comic, based in Melbourne Australia. No politics, no agenda, just superheroes fighting super villains. There’s a few spin off comics too, such as Dropbear Jr., and Wombatman. Wes I’d love to send you a copy to get your thoughts on it.
this channel has been the front line of balanced reporting on issues like this for more than 5 years now and this is not news to us at all... it's good they finally realized it BUT it's time for the discussions on repairing this Upcoming Wreck : shoutouts to the chat and Blessings to wes and the family for their continue reporting
This is an excellent video, dude
Wow I absolutely can’t believe it’s taken this LONG !!!! Insane
Holy shizz!! At 3:50 that's Mega City Comics in Camden, London. One of the finest comic shops in London.
Many memories from 90s, 00s and 10s and the great comics from ALL companies at the time.
"Aaaaah the sweet sting of nostalgia"
Well,better late than never. At this point is just imposible to hid the comic sales decline of latest years. I saw a article today about Rob Liefeld saying that the comic book industry can collapse in the next year already. The situation is very worrying.
Awesome work mate
WHAT ADULTS? Are you honestly saying there exists an adult in M/DC exec/management?
I require proof based on actions to date.
By the time you finish consolidating sales numbers for the second state the first state’s comic shops will already have been cut down by 5% bare minimum and that’s if you only account for a minimal “holiday effect.”
I have never heard of Comics Beat before. Claremont did a five issue retro 80s X title a year ago. . .I couldn't believe how bad the art and writing was, so I didn't read or order past issue one smh
Great video!
I agree with everything you stated. I got called all kind pf names and kicked out of comic book online groups for just calling out the BS going on.
**thunderous stadium clapping**
Thanks for this guys. 1st time here. I've been asking other channels for rundown like this.
More to come!
Soon Tempus Finis will start, and an Arbiter will be chosen to judge mankind.
So NOW we can thank Heather Antos... right?
Another great rant, Wes.
Wes you got it dead on content has to come first I preordere. Comicbook for the first time in months because the team over at ghost machine is promising a future of good solid comicbooks and…and they’re pushing it on social media by simply showing that good future content. Any chance you could get any of them on the show and get them some attention?🙏🏻☺️
It's too bad you can't hear me because I'm applauding you IRL, sir. When it comes to things like comics, it's like chocolate. You can have a variety of flavors, fillings if any and such, but it still needs to be chocolate. And when someone buys a Dairy Milk bar, they are not expecting it to be like a Reese' Peanut Butter Cup.
God look at how rough the art is now. I haven’t collected since the early 2000s so it’s pretty jarring.
Heidi McDonald, the face that sank a thousand books. 😊
I'm astounded how EPIC FAIL "current year" American comic book writers are. People actually want LGBT, slice-of-life, coming-of-age stories with superheroes IN MANGA and ANIME, because mangaka (Japanese comic book writers and artists) can actually make such stories ENTERTAINING- look at the success of 'Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid' for one of MANY examples.
What's the difference between the SUCCESSFUL Japanese works, and the EPIC FAIL American ones? I think "current year" American writers put too much of themselves in their stories, such that a reader cannot identify with the characters unless they're 100% like these characters, i.e., if they're the creators- in short, these writers are NARCISSISTS and/or SOCIOPATHS who cannot write about characters who aren't 100% like them, and cannot identify with people who aren't 100% like them, as Mags Visaggio repeatedly proves.
I remember when this wasn't the case- I liked Jem despite the fact I'm not a woman, Duke in 'GI Joe' despite the fact I'm not white, and Optimus Prime despite the fact I'm not a giant transforming robot from another world, as all these characters have qualities with universal appeal. But "current year" American writers seem to think these qualities are sexist, racist, homophobic and/or transphobic.
Will they learn?
Will they apologise to long time fans?
Will those fans return?
Its the CONTENT! It doesnt matter what star returns if they are writing the same crap that got us here (RTD Doctor Who) Until they start addressing the polarizing slanted content issue they will NEVER see any improvements! 😊😊😊
Never had a problem with characters like Apollo and Midnighter. It's when they do things like have Iceman's ex-girlfriends all sit him down in a room and tell him he's gay and he just accepts it. That's a terrible story.
Yep, you all are finally catching up with where I have been since 1995. I stopped buying comics when they forgot how to wrote them. At first it was the "remake virus". Take an old arc and "rewrite it" instead of creating anything. Then it was the "reboot virus" followed by the "message virus". Since I moved around a LOT before the 2000's, my comics from the 70-90's are long gone and I had resigned myself to never be able to read them again. But that changed! I recently discovered Marvel Epic Collections and I now have X-Men 1970 to1983. 1963 to 1970 are on order.
See we can still read comics.
There are 30+ years of real American Comics out there!
At least they are admitting there is a problem, even if they are begrudgingly doing so. That said, it would be amusing to see what if any answer they have for this. My bet is that they blame their customers again.
Did you hear their making an all black team in DC during the beast world event?Very diverse sounding concept.
I was a Wednesday warrior for 10+ years. I was a Spider-Man completist. Tired of the horrible stories and leftist bs. Haven’t bought a new comic in about 7 months.
I mean, I really did try to stick with DC, no matter the abuse because I adored the characters. But that Gotham War event... paired with Tom King's disgusting Wonder Woman (amazing art, it doesnt deserve that artwork) I'm tapped out. I don't care. I literally don't.
How could I? No one is in character, heroes are acting like Villians and Villians are acting like the heroes should but condemned for it.
I am out. I dont care about Batman or Wonderwoman. Or the world they're involved in if this is who we're dealing with.
A batman who beats and abuses his kids, a batfamily who'd rather side with organised crime than actually uphold the law and protect the people of gotham, a wonder woman who sits by and lets a situation devolve while "sargent steel" skinsuit throws a bitch fit can get fucked. All of them. I just don't care. Maybe if they fire everyone whos responsible for that mess and reboot totally, I might dip back in. For now. No. Im gone. Still looking for back issues, but I never want to see this mess again
I don't really buy new stuff from the big two anymore because they make almost nothing aimed for me. I focus on bying thw collected editions of the old material that I actually enjoy. Have to give it to especially Marvel that their collected editions department is doing good job in that sense
As a Retailer, I have ALWAYS felt that mainstream online comics journalism was, at best, annoying, at worst, full of sh*t. People with ZERO real knowledge or experience trying waaaay too hard to sound like they knew WTF they were talking about. You can tell none of them were lifelong readers/fans, just desperate wannbes pretending to feel important. I avoided them for their entire existence.
“How did you go bankrupt?"
Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”
― Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises
C: there are a lot of issues that made this not work. but I think one issue is that they just didn't know what they were doing or who their market was. there's a reason why yoai and yuri work and gay ice man does not
What about dc doomsday clock story I read all of that
Mondern writers will never amount to anything
Just 6 years... It's been since 2012.... 2014 if you want to ignore the inclined of creators flipping out "sarcastic"lyrics and what was marvel now and that infamous secret was 2015....
Dude this shit has been piling up and being called out for many more years ...
(There is a difference between comics I vs others like... But since 2012 it's been shit.
The writers who left marvel and dc were ok to average at best but look great when compared to the devoid of talent writers who write for marvel, dc, image, darkhorse, etc..
I will say DC has been doing better at releasing omnibus editions of older runs. So that makes me happy.
Thats all I really care about anymore.
.it's like 2 kids..one kid had the rights to the iP of the father..
but the other kid had the talent of the father but not the rights to the iP..so the talent kid took the talent and build how the father did😊
When Chuck Dixon was writing for DC I had no idea what his political leanings were. It never even entered into Robin or Punisher War Journal or Batgirl. All I knew about Chuck Dixon is that he wrote books that I wanted to read because they were great stories. He understood and developed the characters and I never thought of them a Chuck Dixon in a skin. Somehow we've lost that in Marvel and DC. This new group of writers need to go back and read what Dixon was doing. Because when you read these it's not Dixon you are reading but Robin and Punisher and Batgirl. It's the simplest lesson of them all but for some reason they can't figure it out. As a writer you are a caretaker of the character. If you become the character you turn the fans off and destory that character
Someone need to make a mega crossover about the alphabet community and Disney teamed up to destroy the comic book world, comix zone style.
How wrong does Heidi need to be before she's completely discredited? A real journalist shouldn't be given this many chances as deceiving the public.
The only modern writer I read nowadays is Josh Williamson. I've read some good Superman stuff from him. Aside from that, I don't know of any other writer in Marvel or DC who actually cares about the characters or the customers except maybe Jeremy Adams
Philip Kennedy Johnson is alright.
. might have to let them have it..and Rebuild another one with a Solid Foundation bro..Good writing equal Sales..indeed)
It’s funny as a gay guy , gay comic readers , just want like hot buff guys kicking butt and being masculine and cool like how comic characters used to be ! Nobody wants the gay characters they make nowadays that are all weak and lame .
Comic book fans do not want self inserts in comics. Do you know why? Because there aren't any writers out there that are actual superheroes.
can anyone make a list of which "modern writer" we better avoid reading? I would like to save my time by not reading their books 😂 please let me know your suggestion below
That's a good idea!