How I edit videos as an amateur (and how long it takes me)
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- We don't normally make tutorials, but this was a request from Ryan so we wanted to give it a shot! Learning video editing has been a slow process for me, and I've always wondered how long it takes other people, so wanted to share what it looks like on my end. I still have tooonnnnssss to learn, and would love to know any helpful tips or different ways of doing things, so please share them in the comments!
Campfire cookout video: • Campfire cookout: brea...
Professional Editor here :) I think you are doing a great job!! One thing I would suggest is spend a bit more time on organization within your editor in the front end of your project. For example, create an "audio" bin, create a "footage" bin and any other assets or things you like to use for you vlogs. Once you do that, you can get as detailed as you like, if you use different bins for cameras/drone etc. The next step would be to watch all your clips and as you do, set your I/O points for each clip BEFORE you insert them into the timeline. It may not seem like it, but making your cuts directly on your timeline is probably where a lot of your time is going. Also it may look like you are filming in a log profile? I am not sure if FXP has an internal conversion tool like Davinci Resolve, but I do know you will need to add a conversion lut to Rec 709 from Log in order to utilize the most DNR from your camera. If you use Sony, you can go to their website and download the Log conversion LUT, apply it to your clip and thats when you are ready for creative LUTs :) Hope this was helpful!! You are doing so great so far!!
Thank you!! Thank you for all those tips! I will have to try all those things! I really appreciate it.
These are just haphazard rough ideas. Filter them down as you like. Everyone has their own distinctive workflow.
1. Keywording is one aspect where Final Cut Pro really shines. You can assign a keyword shortcut such as "blooper" and then attach that to a range in a clip with a blooper. Recall later on in the project is now easy. As you go through footage, you can attach a few choice keywords along the way which saves you having to keep a storage at the end of your timeline.
2. There are roughly two ways to edit: either you dump a lot of stuff into the timeline, then thin it out. Or you build it up from your bins. Both have their use. Thinning out a timeline makes it a bit harder to be decisive and cut stuff, because everything is already in play. It's harder to murder a darling if you just spent a couple of minutes trimming it to perfection. You also run the risk of trimming B-roll which you then never use. In the build-up scenario, you would still watch the footage, but then take "notes" on each clip as you go by keywording, setting In/Out ranges to get rid of stuff you don't need, add markers and so on. For a video such as the one you are making, I like to consider a "Radio Edit" first, in the sense that I want the flow of the audio in the main program to work. I don't even care about what is shown to the point of disabling the video track.
3. Make an effort to make the rough cut really rough. If you spend a lot of time up-front on trimming clips and perfecting the timeline, you get into trouble if things needs to rearrange a bit later. Part of the time you spent is now wasted. Once you have an idea of order and flow, you can start refining and trimming. This also means you can be quite lax with your early In/Out points in B-roll. If you're gonna use it, it'll be trimmed.
4. You can work non-linearly. I often start with a part where I have a good grasp of how to cut it. That might be in the middle. Then I create a couple more parts, and they serve as skeletal structure. I then fill in between them to naturally tie each section to the next.
5. Start building up a sound library early. Organization of music and sound effects are going to save you a lot of time down the road when you need recall of a particular effect from a video you put out 6 months ago. Finding a piece of music or a sound you like to use can take a lot of time. You don't want to redo that again.
It's really nice work you did.
Wow, thanks so much for writing out all of those ideas! They’re all very helpful and most of them are new to me, so I will definitely be implementing them where I can!
One piece of advice that worked really well for me; stay on the keyboard as MUCH as possible. I’ve dramatically sped up my editing time by learning as many short cuts as possible
That’s such a great tip! I know a handful of shortcuts but definitely need to take more advantage of them! Thank you!
A nice different kind of video that says amateur but looks professionally done.
Thank you so much! That means a ton!
Nice! One suggestion. I'd start now with folders for soundtracks, sound effects, transitions, overlays, or any other odds and ends stuff. Also when you get further along, create a "most used" folder to go and get things a lot easier instead of searching through folders trying to find it. Also one thing that helps me speed up my initial cutting is listening to everything that 1.5x or even 2x speed. Makes it a lot quicker obviously. Also, I watched your campfire video and I will say, don't even worry about color correction or grading at this point. Your video looks awesome, you could have said you spent an hour on it and I would have believed you. Id just focus on getting your editing sped up! Awesome work!
Those are some really great suggestions, I will definitely be implementing those in the future! Thanks so much!!
I have no idea why UA-cam suggested this video I am not into the "everyone wants to be an influencer" But I have 30 years of experience editing video (way before digital) and this was very nicely done
Wow! You have been editing for a long time 🙌 Thank you for watching and for the nice comment!
I think you're pacing yourself pretty well. I usually budget 1hr of editing for every finished minute for complex edits, and 30min for simple edits (or less). So your 6 min video would have taken me about 3 hours also.
Thanks! Always good to hear editing takes others about the same amount of time that it takes me! Never would have known the amount of work it took when I started!!
First video from your channel that I have watched and I have to say you really knocked it out of the park with this tutorial. Your pacing was perfect to show what you did. Many times people who do tons of tutorials just go way too fast and it seems like they want to impress you with how knowledgeable they are rather than actually teach you how to do something. This video just worked perfect. I use pretty much the same method but after the first edit I make another duplicate copy and edit from there. After every edit I save a copy. That way if you want to revert back to a previous edit it is easy.. Thanks for this great video........Take care, Bluefin.
Thank you so much!! That means a lot!! And thanks for the tip! I haven’t used duplicate copies before but I may start now!!
Thanks for taking the time to do this, it's the exact same procedure as I use too. The only thing I do different is I make copies of the project each time there is some big change in the edit and then I have saved copies of older versions if needs be. Also, top right of the screen is the export button so not sure what you did the drag-copy and then some click to get the export screen up? Really nice camera presence you have and really enjoyed seeing how someone's does it. Thanks so much for the effort and time taken to make this video 🙂🇿🇦👍🏻
Thanks so much for the comment! It’s great for me to hear other people have a similar process too. Smart to make copies, and I didn’t realize the export button is in the top right! I’ll have to use that next time, thanks so much for the tip!
I personally use capcut but I mainly do mockups for documentaries to show clients what I can do I find it just as capable as final cut and it's free
Oh nice that’s awesome! I’ve only used CapCut for shorts and instagram reels so far but I’ll have to look more into its capabilities!
You did a great job on this tutorial! It was sooo good; I was able to watch it entirely with no pauses. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much! That means a lot!
Found this video since I am trying to learn editing. Appreciate this style vs most other videos out there.
Thank you so much!! That means a lot!! So glad the video was helpful!!
So great, Kelley! I love your camera presence.
Thank you ☺️
I love that you love to learn!
Hi Kelley, great video! For future projects on Final Cut, try to master keywords, they are like sub-folders IN a big folder called EVENT. They are an excellent way to handle tons of media and it's subdivisions. Cheers! So the order would be LIBRARY>EVENT Campfire (classify with keywords)>PROJECT (sequence).
Ok awesome! Thank you so much for that tip!
Great video Kelley! Super clear and concise! 👌One tip I would recommend is changing all your Library storage locations (Media, Motion Content & Cache) to 'in Library' so you don't get those 'missing file' messages and all the project files stay with the .fcpbundle file where ever you move it (unless you want your media separate for other reasons). Now I'll go watch your video 😊
Awesome! Thank you so much! That is a great tip, I really appreciate it.
Very useful video thank you. I recently found out that we should add descriptive titles to our thumbnails as well as the files we upload to YT. Might be helpful for all to know. It is more food for the algo 😉.
Awesome! Thank you for the tip!
I just stumbled on this thanks to the algorithm. I picked up so much because of your style and delivery.
Cheers!
Thank you! That means a lot!
you're a great teacher, Kelley!
Thanks so much Lex 🙏🏻
Oh this is good.. So I too am fairly new to video( 3 years part time roughly) and i do travel vlogs. My videos have taken anywhere from 8-10 hours all the way up to about 80 hours. (Ive been working on a Vatican City video for about 4 months now) My main problem is when we travel to exciting places, i get so caught up in the moment i just start recording everything but forget to talk to the camera. So when I get to editing i have to go through literally 100s of gbs of files and try to build a decent story out of it.
Yes!! I feel you with that!! The same thing happens to me whenever we happen to do travel vlogs, I end up doing a fair bit of montage type scenes with music and then also try to talk to the camera later on about what we did and then sometimes put footage over the talking parts.
Can’t wait to see you grow
Thanks!!
Pro level editingtakes around an hour per minute of finished video so you are doing great. Nice tutorial.
Thank you so much!! That means a lot!
Lovely to get another perspective on the editing process, it takes alot longer than I would have believed 😂
Thank you, yes it really does! 😂
This was super comprehensive and helpful!
Thank you!! 🙌🏻
what sets you apart, is not being one of those cliché tutorials where it's too fast, and people ending up playing back the video 🤦♂️🤪. so great video 👍
Wow thank you so much!! I really appreciate that!!
i like how the FC interface is structured, but i like Resolve ones even more.
Oh really? That’s awesome! Maybe I’ll have to try the free version of Resolve sometime!
1:46 I still do this...I watch most everything because I don't want too much Raw in my computer. I need more storage in my machine.
The reason I'm doing this is because that first watching of the videos is teaching me better methods of recording.
I now film shorter bursts or longer segments where I know I'll add my own b roll. This keeps the sound consistent, and the camera angle moving.
Yes! Data storage is one of the hardest parts. Great ideas to film that way!!
@@kelleyandtyler I'm not that good at scripting and shot listing to film shorter segments, so I watch them all in Finder (press space bar) and ditch bad clips, and sometimes trim off bad parts (start/end) to reduce storage (do this right in the viewer) once they go into the FCP library storage. You should also delete all Generated Library files right before you archive the .fcpbundle (save's space).
@@kelleyandtyler tHanks for the fun video....What are you working on next?
@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals we have part 1 of our trip to Cannes vlog dropping tomorrow and then should have part 2 next week!
@@kelleyandtyler Looking forward to both! Have a spectacular evening!
Subscribed! I love how simple and informative the video is. I also cannot believe you guys are just at 2015 subscribers!
Thank you so much!! That’s a big compliment!! 🙌
Thanks for sharing the video! I've subscribed to your channel
Thank you!! 🙌
Very good video. I use Davinci Resolve but I did gain information. Looking forward to seeing more from you and I have subscribed !
Thank you! I’m glad it helped even tho you use Davinci!
Well done!
Thank you!! 🙏
Best video for editing out there!! Great job Kelley!
Thank you!!! 🙌
My best advice and this will be helpful if you end up working for a post house one day as well is to use your JKL keys to speed up sifting through footage.. never watch anything realtime... too much time. next the final cut pro keyboard shortcut are horrid.set your own shortcuts and learn them like youve never learned anything before. export the shortcut file and upload to a google drive in case one day you find yourself on another machine thats not yours that way you can have instant access to your shortcuts. use your shortcuts on the keyboard and stay off your mouse as much as possible when it comes to doing most things. finally... ALWAYS cross fade your audio even if its just a couple frames and even if there are no clicks as long as dialogue doesnt overlap. its the difference between a good video an an amateur's. export a project one with and one without the crossfades and thank me later. always use external drives. i never have the footage in the same drive where my os and software is installed. people will argue and tell you otherwise and theyre right internal drives today are fast enough but why would you want to put your machine through that whats easier and cheaper to replace an external ssd or your macs integrated drive.
Wow thank you so much for all the great tips!! I really appreciate them!
Very informative.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
@@kelleyandtyler I wish you all the best! Looking forward to more videos
Good job
Thank you!! 🙌
This is helpful
Yay!! Glad it helped!!
I’m at the 5:50ish area. When it comes to audio and looking for parts where you talk, I like to detach the audio and look for spikes. I’ll pause for a moment so I can see the audio spikes and cut the fluff
Oh awesome! That is a great idea, I will try that! Thank you for the tip 🙌
super cool concept. I've been considering doing a live stream of editing, but the video has quite a bit of copyright music. Sigh.
Thank you!! Oh darn, maybe during that stream you could play non-copyright music!
@@kelleyandtyler Its the embedded music from the band. I could mute the desktop audio . . .
Fine workflow indeed! Have you considered working with proxies since the files are 4K? Might speed up things….
Thank you!! Oh that’s a good tip! We haven’t done it but we might have to try it!!!
seu vídeo chegou no Brazil, parabéns pelo conteúdo 💛💚
Hooray!!! That’s great!! Thank you!!
@@kelleyandtyler thanks for the excellent content
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I spend 40hrs on average editing my videos (motorcycle travel vlogs with about 3.5hrs of raw footage per video) which are 15-25min in length on avg. I do throw in extra clips from an insta360 cam, drone footage, iphone stills and video, etc, but the the majority of my footage is 3.5 hrs typically, taken with two GoPros running simultaneously.
Dang!!!! That’s a lot of footage!! Some serious editing!! Good work!!
@@kelleyandtyler it's on a different account. Yeah it is a lot of footage, but I never know when I'm gonna be riding past something cool, so I tend to let it run when I'm in more interesting areas, sometimes for 15-20 min. All the other footage is much easier to edit quickly since there's so much less of it.
NIce video going through process you use. Mine is pretty similar. I hadn't considered using an adjustment layer for color grading. I'm gonna steal that tip. I probably can't use it for the whole video, but in large sections where the lighting is pretty much the same, I think it would work fine.
I just made the same kind of video 1 day ago, but about editing macro...
Same start with folders, same MacBook, same wallpaper. 😂
Anyway... Nice video 👍
Haha that is awesome!! Wooo!!! Thank you!
Super great video...Really enjoyed it.
One question for everyone. Do you save a copy of the video? I have listened as people say they just upload off their phones and poof..the end. .All my disasterpieces are saved on three separate hard drives.
Thanks! We usually save a final copy to the external hard drive, as well as saving a the FC project for a few months before deleting when we don’t think we will need it anymore. But we save all raw footage too on the hard drive.
Great video! How did you learn all this?
Thank you so much! Self taught by watching tons of UA-cam videos like this!
Love you ❤. Good job
This really interesting! I think I am in the same boat as I've only edited a few short films here and there but want to learn more. I wanted to ask a few questions: do you keep the footage you shot after you've created your youtube video on an external hard drive? And also, do you pay for artlist/would you recommend it? What made you choose final cut pro?
That’s awesome!! Thanks for the questions! Yes I do keep the footage on external sd drives if I ever want to use it or reference it again later. I pay for the music pro plan on Artlist, I definitely recommend it! What made me choose Final Cut Pro is that it’s not a subscription model and I edit on a MacBook and they seem to work together more intuitively. I used to edit on Premiere Pro and definitely prefer Final Cut Pro.
Why put all the clips in the timeline all at once double handling when you want to rearrange , I put them one at a time as I build the story?
That’s a great way to do it too! I drag everything in at once because I don’t want to accidentally forget anything, I find it saves time to begin editing immediately as I’m watching clips through in the timeline (rather than looking at them first in the browser and then dragging them into the timeline), and most things I film end up staying in their chronological order so I usually don’t have too much rearranging I do.
@@kelleyandtyler That is fine but sometimes I shoot with up to four cameras so everthing is not sequential then needs sorting into a story.
what video camera did you use in the cooking video?
💛loved your video ,
Thank you!!! We used the Sony ZV-E1 in that video. With a Tamron 17-28 f2.8 lens on it.
Thank you for such a helpful video :) What luts do you use and where can I get them?
I usually use Matt Johnson’s Luts, which you can buy on his website (whoismatt.com). There are also free options out there but I haven’t nailed down where to find the best free ones.
@@kelleyandtyler Thanks! Good luck with everything. You're doing a great job :)
thanks
Thank you for watching!!
Which settings do you use on the ZV-E1 ?
Do you stabilise it with catalyst browse? The footage looks very stable.
Looks to be interesting, but I use DaVinci Resolve, so don’t want to get anymore confused than I already am.
Nice tutorial. Wish you used divinci resolve as that’s what I am learning on but the process is helpful!
Thank you, yeah I wish I knew how to edit on Davinci also! It sounds like a good one as well!
@@kelleyandtyler there is a free version and iPad version with very similar feature set. Both free! I didn’t want to buy FCP when I am just learning
What Mac are you using ?
It’s a 2021 14” MacBook Pro M1, 1TB, 10 core CPU, 16 core GPU
I'm not Ryan.But thanks.
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Only for Apple users
True!
My laptop has a storage of 512 gb 🥲🥲
Dang!! The external SD drives really help with that!
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as someone who's just starting out, this is helpful, thanks for making this.
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